30/50 HoM in 2 days, from scratch. Is it a lie?

Sounds very unlikely for me. I am in now way a GW pro, but I've been playing for about 2 years and I know my way around the game pretty well, I can make a good build, manage agro etc, yet I am barely at 8/50

I read in another thread that Is it true? If so... how is it possible?

I can't see how you could get to 30/50 in 2 days from scratch if you have no money. If money's no object, then it should be possible. But then again, I am no GW pro aswell. I got from 7/50 to 30/50 in 2 days, but that was because I just hit the jackpot and bought my way there.

From scratch...so with no campaigns complete and no money? Not possible.

You can't afford elite armour/weapons...there's 16 points unavailable already, leaving a max possible of 34/50. No PvP title loses another 3 points...and the only PvP statue achievable in 2 days needs a ton of money or balthazar points (Zaishen) which you won't have, so possible points is only 31/50.

With no titles, no campaign completion, no mini pets (and no money to buy them), no hero armour (and no access to the challenge missions yet to get it, or money to buy it)...I reckon maxing the other monuments in 2 days from scratch is impossible.

sounds like a case of ***url removed...we dont need to advertise that kind of stuff*** syndrome...

Unless your 2 year old account is 8/50 because you've been doing nothing but hoarding Ectos the whole time, it's highly unlikely that you'll be able to get 30/50 anytime soon.

In the mean time, complete all 3 campaigns with all missions/bonuses, that'll pop you up to 8 pts honor.

Next, do the Black Moa quest in Fac, charm a random pet and level it to 20, and then farm Djakah Inlet for 2 stolen sunspear armors. For a good 5 points in fellowship.

Everything else will require money, time, and ambition.

It's not possible. At least, not in a non-misleading way.

If you take "from scratch" as a new character on new account, you'd need a lot of time just to get the protector titles. Half an hour per mission, and already you'd need to play for two days straight to do it. And those are the "introductory titles" - first titles everyone gets.

The only way you could make the statement work would be if you have an already well entrenched account that has already done everything, unlocked every skill and outpost, and has accumulated a vast amount of wealth, and then convert the wealth to HoM points mostly by buying items that count.

IE, if you had the money to spare and sellers readily available, you could:
-buy minipets, max of 8 points.
-buy hero armor upgrades and pets, max of 8 points.
-buy all the required prestige armors, max 8 points.
-buy all prestige weapons, max of 8 points.

But really, how about we calculate those costs, too? Just how rich would you have to be? Would you really get that money in two days? Hell, with stacks of ectos, would you find sellers of all those items in two days?

Even the 20000 clicks needed to use fast consumables for the sweet tooth and party animal would be a strain on your fingers...


So, no, not really. However, SOME people got the wrong idea for several reasons:
-they already had many titles, but hadn't displayed them in the HoM. So, all they had to do was walk into the HoM and display them for a massive boost in points (display one title, and you've got 5 points here already (with the linked account and any title) - triple protector, and you're already 7 due to the extra statue bonus for 5 titles)
-they alreadys had many characters with a few pets each, and just displayed them to gain the points (note: 1 rare mini (celestial pets are relatively easily acquired), 1 unique mini (black moa chick, just a few hours' work) - and you're already at 3/8 for minis)
-everyone already has an elite armor, or the resources to buy one easily, so...
-justi finishing War in kryta will get you enough war supplies and medals to get an oppressor weapon, and at least for the start, before the market found out that previously low value diamonds, onyx and granite can actually run out at the traders, destroyer weapons were a matter of fast purchase

But as I said - to call this "from scratch" is ridiculously misleading.

How are you a pro if you have only completed elone? What about doing UW, FoW, DoA? What about completing all campaigns? What about maxing titles? How can you consider yourself a pro with only 1 elite armour? Not trying to be mean, but please don't say you are a pro like that >>

It's not possible, not one bit.

Play through factions, should take about a day max (2 titles, playing thru + all mishes mastered)

Capping moa takes about 20 minutes

Complete UW and FoW (2 hours each)

8 points from honor: 3 for accs linked, 2 for any statue, 3 for 5 statues

cap black widow while ur at it

Sell your ectos and shards should EASILY be able to get 1 green and one gold mini

+3 points: any mini, rare mini, unique mini

Go to EoTN get ran to the cnetral transfer chamber, do glints challenge for a few hero armors.

+5 points: Any hero, any pet, rare pet, 5 statues

Add ANY weapon to hom (destroyer, tormented or opressor, i think destroyer is the cheapest atm)

+2 points

18 points so far in 2 days, no cash to start with. Altho i admit doing UW might be a bit hard for the less uhm...."pro" people

Edit: you can swap UW for sorrows furnace, its a bit easier to do, altho less reward. Also mox is free to add to HoM, easy point there also which you didnt utilize!

Edit: im 100% sure that you (by you i mean an experienced gw player on an entirely new account, not you per se) can get 30/50 in a week. Not 2 days maybe, but a week? piece of cake.

If you get run through all 3 campaigns , NM and HM with bonuses, you will have 10 titles (3x Eternal Hero 3x Eternal Protector 4x Eternal Guardian)

Now who has that kind of cash ...

2 days I doubt. But looking at your HoM, getting more points should be very easy.

Devotion:
1: Any Gold mini
2: Any Green mini
This'll give you 2 more points (and just buy first years, they're very cheap)

Fellowship:
1: Cap Black Moa
2: Go get MOX (does't need armour upgrade)
3: Do any of the hero armour mini-games (you only need 2)
4: Any 5 Statues (Full display). You'll get this for completing the other 2.
Should take less than an hour.

Honor:
1: Sorrow's Furnace
2: Complete Tyria
3: Complete Faction
This'll give you another 3 points. Depends how far you are, but should take ~4 hours to do only the necessary missions.

Resilience:
1: Elite Kurzick/Luxon
2: Elite Vabbian
3: Any 2 others.
This is very money dependant, but a very easy 5 points.

Valor:
1: Complete War in Kryta questline and get Oppressor Weapon.
2: Buy Destroyer Weapon
Another that's money dependent, but an easy 3 points.

This is an easy 15 points anyway that should be doable in 2 days.

Definitely not. For all the reasons listed above.

If you're truly starting *from scratch*. If you just found out about GW, are running around on an Elementalist with half your points into Beast Mastery and are using a quest-reward long sword, you probably won't get to 30/50 in the next month.

Just enjoy the game before it truly dies.

It doesnt say by a new player. For experienced players its very well possible to get 20 or so, maybe even 30 if they have some cash they can loan from friends.

You might want to think about the blanket bot bans and this statement together. Maybe then it becomes more clear?

I don't see even this being possible. It comes down to money that you will not have. No minis (at least not 20, if you spend your money on green+gold you can kiss your armor good bye), maybe 1-2 elite armors (one of them kurz/lux), no weapons (well maybe one oppressor), 10 companions (20, just maybe).

If you have a lot of friends willing to run sh*t load of stuff for you, maybe. But then they could just hand you the money to buy everything anyway. Still you have to realize how much time even 20-25 points take, running through all basic campaigns with bonus + EOTN + everything else (skills, hero armor, WiK, etc.).

Went from 13 to 30 in a few days because i had some money to spend. So if you have money you can get points pretty easy, but not from 0 - 30 in 2 days.

He says "I am in now way a GW pro". "Now" is a typo for "no". You see?

Lol, did UW yesterday, only ecto I got was from end chest. 2 goldies, rest crap. Won't buy me anything (maybe 1 white mini with the prices these days).
You can't run to CTC (unless you participate in DD with someone who is doing that quest).

If you're sitting on a gold mine... and materials are at the trader + you have luck buying + Have time for sorrow's furnace + UW + FoW + Deep. Technically you could get 43 points in the span of 2 days. Possible? Yes. Likely? No way. But going 0-30 is more likely than you'd think (as long as you've got money).

Yes, this is true because 30/50 requires hardly any titles. But (a lot of) money = (a lot of) game time, unless you wanna risk getting banned.

Same thing could be said about 50/50 because (as it was said in another thread) there is hardly anything in HoM that you can't buy - with tons of money. Just takes a bit more time.

Considering each mission can take about 30 minutes, and then you include prep time and between-mission questing, completing all three campaigns and the expansion would take at least 36 hours. That's just to get to the end, assuming no fails, and all objectives gotten in one shot.

Two days is an obvious exaggeration. Even a week to get 30/50 would be, unless you cashed in some serious ToT stacks during Halloween.

If you played for 8 hours a day, and knew where everything was and used the wiki, the least amount of time it would take you is about 2 months to get 30/50, and that includes some farming time.

Jesus K-rist, people, DO SOME MATHS! Just because you can type it in 5 minutes doesn't mean you can also DO it that fast!

Which is either bought (and prices have gone up), for money not instantly earned, and will require some time standing in a trade town. Or, if none are offered, farmed on canthan festival day, which for me has so far meant 10 characters*all quests (3 quests * 15 min * 10 characters = 8 hours of play time) to earn ONE gold mini.

Only guaranteed one is Black Moa chick. 15 mins to get the eg, 15 mins to harden it, 30 mins to travel to the incubator crafter, (how much did you pay for the spirit wood?) 15 mins to get volcanic rock, 10 mins to get juni berries, farm skree wings and bog fins for ? hours, 10 mins apiece to trade them for the items, 30 mins travel to Sorrow's furnace, do 4 quests (with even just getting to the entrance taking 10 minutes, plus quests taking 15 mins (Leeroy escort) to half hour (the others), plus finale... (let's say a long play day. I KNOW, I've done it three times at least)

Money can help - but minis are going up in prices.



5 minutes ONLY if you've already done the 1 hour quest.

Let's count this one as instantaneous.

15 minutes per, and only if you are good. For me, it takes three attempts to get a drop.

OK, see below.

Let's count it as done under green mini.

25 missions times half hour (the short ones are offset by long ones, like abaddon's mouth bonus, THK etc.) 12 hours, say?

13 missions at half hour. 6 hours.

I'd like to see you put up videos of THAT, especially since you need bonus objectives, too.


So let's call it very expensive instantaneous points? Or maybe we could actually look at 60k per set (headpiece not needed), 400 normal mats at say 100 gold per ten mats (yeah right, check the prices of iron etc. 4000 gold at least) 40 special mats at say 200 per (and hope it's not 1.2k per mat... still 4000 gold there), and if you're talking the special ones... one jade quarry win in 10 minutes for one jade/amber. Times 80 = 10 hours at least - if you win consistently.

Vabbian is now what, 10k per gem? and you need 16 each? 320K plus mats, right? Oh, is the trader not in stock? Stand in Kamadan advertising for some...

All times five., didn't we say? How fast do you earn your money?


That's half an hour travelling, watching cinematics (they need to finish to advance), and then three bounties at say 15 mins apiece, three missions at say 30 mins apiece (maybe, I never was that fast), plus finale.

How much are diamonds and onyx these days? I do believe stacks of granite have gone seriously up in price.

It's only easy if you've already done everything before and have tons of cash.


Seriously people, 100k per elite armor times 5 is half a million! And the money you spend there is money you can't spend elsewhere! 20 ectos for a tormented weapon means you don't get to use those ectos on your FoW armor! Also, all those hours... if you play 8 hours per day, that's nice for you - but my guildies play two hours every three days... They are working on the HoM and have been for a long time!

IT IS NOT FAST IF YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY DO IT!

- Agreed

Agreed

- Agreed assuming you can find group/have alliance and dont suck

-SAY WHAT! First year gold minis are about 50k give or take atm. Greens start from about 75 for the black moa. If your getting 125k from 1 UW and 1 FoW run im doign something wrong. Thats the equivalent of about 17 or 18 ectos in a non speed clear run. no WAY!

You cant get run to CTC therefore im assuming you mean run through all eotn missions. In which case it comes back to $$$ therefore WRONG again.

Still comes back to cash. Sure 50k right now is relatively cheap. However starting from SCRATCH thats quite a bit.

Basically to summarise from scratch, if with 0 outside assistance in terms of money AND no crazy r8 15>50 fellblade or something ridiculously valuable in the first couple of days it is impossible for a brand new account to be 30/50 within a week. It would be theoretically possible ina week of playtime (ie 168 hours of gametime) but not within the passage of 7 days.

IF it is a new account and they have no money, no its quite unlikely they would be able to complete stuff in that amount of time.
IF they had another account and it was a 2ndary (or tertiary or so), then more likely since they might have access to funds and runners to help them finish things up (prophecies only requires the last 4 missions to get that point hero of tyria?).

but 2 days....just no

Maybe it was a mis-type and it was supposed to be 3/50. The 2 days is the time it takes to ship from the dealer, or to download and install the game. No reason to freak out gaizzzz.

In all seriousness, 30/50 from a new non-smurf account in 2 days is impossible. One of these days, if I'm reeeeeally bored, I might see how many points I can get on my second account in a few days. But not likely. And not likely 30/50.

Got 50/50 on my main and decided to see how far I could get my second account without too much trouble.

I'm essentially broke (had 10k when I decided to start with the second account).

It was 8/50 when I started it (a mini, a hero, linked acc, couple of statues, an elite armor). It's 19/50 now after a couple of days. Added several hero armors, a statue (UW) to get full statue points, vabbian armor (which I already had but hadn't added yet).

To get 30 I either have to seriously play to get titles or seriously farm to buy minis/armors.

I don't see how I can even get from the 19 I have now to 30 in a couple of days, let alone if you have to start from 0 (or the 3 free ones you always get).

A mini moa, 9 more heroes, 5 more statues, 2 more elite armors and a destroyer and oppressor will get me to 26 points. Impossible to do all that in two days, and that won't even get me to 30 points from 19 points...

Trust me you can. Can take screens of my monk with chaos gloves who hasnt finished EoTN if needed


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Oh yee unbelievers!

For those calculating mission and campaign completion times - don't forget the time that it takes doing those primary quests that lead you from mission to mission. Oftentimes those take much longer than the actual missions themselves, and can easily double the amount of time it takes you to complete the campaign.

If you have a few mil, then yeah its doable in 2 days. About 35 ish points can just be bought. The rest you'll have to play to.

Read again, I said "unless you participate in DD with someone who is doing that quest." You can't run there in the traditional sense of the word (running through explorable areas to a portal) like you can all the other outposts in eotn. You have to do a quest (DD, like I said).

u can do it solo. Just go to the king jarlis zone and run thru the dungeon area

Totally possible in a single day if you have the cash. You can even get 35+ depending on how fast you can finish EoTN & NF (for all the heroes), Factions (for Imperial Phoenix & Black Moa) do protector & guardian and how fast you buy your stuff.


False. Let me know if you want an explanation as well.



You can finish protector in way less. Not to mention Guardian.

Now don't start lying.

This is just false. I have sold 2 white minis for 5k each. The 2 minis in question were a jade armor and temple guardian.

I also started 2 years ago (at christmas time) and i'm at 30/50

Why are people always commenting about buying points & titles? Are there really that many that actually bought/buy their achievements? I'm not asking rhetorically, I'm curious. It's just that I haven't bought a single thing for any title or point on my main - other than occassionally some materials for crafting armors & weapons of course. I always assumed that was the norm. It doesn't make sense to me most of the time to buy stuff. Take the hero armors for instance - I needed 3 more ancient armors when the calculator went up. I did one run through the challenge and got 4 remnants. It probably would have taken me longer to find 3 for sale and spend XXk on than do it myself.

Black moa chick you can easily get yourself, and got a mini shiro for about 15k a few days back

Well i did it by myself... Ah well maybe my memory is just bad. Wouldnt be too hard to find someone with the quest though thatl join for a minute and leaves when ur in the dungeon

Because money grows on trees in this game. People run out of things to buy... why not buy stuff for HoM?

Don't forget that new accounts start with 55k from zkeys.

55k won't get you much towards any maxed titles. All it does is give you funds to purchase some max armor and decent weapons.

The higher up the completion totem pole you go, the less self-sufficient you become simply because certain title requirements are very difficult to farm casually without a significant (1 or 2 year) time investment.

Examples would be Zaishen (Well, can be done in maybe 3 months of nonstop FA/JQ), Sweet Tooth, Party Animal, Alehound, not to mention Minis.

Even destroyer weapons, which are the cheapest collector weapons are a pain in the ass to farm solo. It's easier to just buy stockpiles off of the various speedclear guilds out there.


That 55k worth of zkeys would be better spent unlocking the zaishen title for the pvp requirement.