Wintersday Workshop 2010
GeminiJuSa
@Marshmallow: Aww, thank you! I'm quite happy with how they turned out, the bone fiends. Definitely the cutest minions If you take up upon livestreaming I'd watch! I'd stay up all day!
@Arya: Thank you! Your work is turning out more amazingly though. Your green glow is definitely much better than the smoke one on mine! But as I said; I already fixed the moon. I edited a few more things, which you can see in the finished piece in the spoiler below.
@Verene: I like your vector WIP; looks very promising!
@Magic: Wow! It looks really dazzling! The face and the polar bear look magnificent! I agree with tommy on the mouth part though; A faint smile adds a lot more warmth and "cuteness" not to mention a bit personality. Would have been nice if you had made those glowing eyes on her though.
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And here's my finished pic;
@Arya: Thank you! Your work is turning out more amazingly though. Your green glow is definitely much better than the smoke one on mine! But as I said; I already fixed the moon. I edited a few more things, which you can see in the finished piece in the spoiler below.
@Verene: I like your vector WIP; looks very promising!
@Magic: Wow! It looks really dazzling! The face and the polar bear look magnificent! I agree with tommy on the mouth part though; A faint smile adds a lot more warmth and "cuteness" not to mention a bit personality. Would have been nice if you had made those glowing eyes on her though.
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And here's my finished pic;
InfestedHydralisk
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Originally Posted by GeminiJuSa
Now on to making the actual video after spending an entire day trying to find a video editor supporting mp4 and/or a converter that doesn't ruin the video quality (that already wasn't the best).
I think Sony Vegas is able to do that, is it not? I use it myself and it's pretty good.
Nemesis-of-the-Gods
Sorry that I have not posted an update for quite a while guys, I've been really busy over the weekend, and Monday usually means new work to do. So I don't really have the time to critique at the moment, nor read all the previous posts; but here is my update that I worked on today:
http://nemesis-of-the-gods.deviantar...llery/27491109
I know it's not much but I am currently having to work on two art pieces at once, one that is due on Friday so time is tight =/
Also I had a question, what if we already have all of the Wedding costume pack purchased? Would we get to choose a different prize if that one came with what we won if we did win? Just a question.
Also, everyone's art is looking so good! I really like all the creativity around here
Arya your piece is phenomenal
Eastern, your Dwayna is so life-like, I love it!
Gemini, lovely shading that you added, looks great!
I gotta go for now. But I hope that you guys like the update, sorry for the rushed post! =/
--OH YEAH, and I tried to make the ornaments sway more in the wind but it just looked like crap every time I attempted it, so I decided to make them frozen and weighed down...I guess, haha. That's my explanation anyways. Don't think that it takes too much away from the picture though >.>
http://nemesis-of-the-gods.deviantar...llery/27491109
I know it's not much but I am currently having to work on two art pieces at once, one that is due on Friday so time is tight =/
Also I had a question, what if we already have all of the Wedding costume pack purchased? Would we get to choose a different prize if that one came with what we won if we did win? Just a question.
Also, everyone's art is looking so good! I really like all the creativity around here
Arya your piece is phenomenal
Eastern, your Dwayna is so life-like, I love it!
Gemini, lovely shading that you added, looks great!
I gotta go for now. But I hope that you guys like the update, sorry for the rushed post! =/
--OH YEAH, and I tried to make the ornaments sway more in the wind but it just looked like crap every time I attempted it, so I decided to make them frozen and weighed down...I guess, haha. That's my explanation anyways. Don't think that it takes too much away from the picture though >.>
AryaBladedancer
Eastern Magik: This is really coming along fantastic. Those eyes are striking and I think that the lips are a really lovely color, not too red to be EAGH, but not too pink to be too soft. It's a lovely salmon coral color, very striking with her hair. I was going to comment that the nose looked too far to the side, but you updated that already and it's just looking fantastic. The blush in the cheeks is really beautiful too!
Death By An Arrow: Aww, thank you! If it makes you feel better I am an art student which means I've had a few years of life drawing with live nude models and color theory and anatomy classes and such which really is just amazingly helpful. The size of the file is 9444 pixels wide, by 6695 pixels tall at 72 DPI. I usually work at a higher DPI but I forgot to set it at the beginning, lol. It will be scaled down a lot at the end. The screenshots I'm posting are less than 1000 wide. I agree about his leg, I haven't gotten to work too much on their torsos because I was focusing on the flowing cloth and the faces but I'm going to lighten it up a bit and paint in more details there. Thanks for pointing it out!
Tommy's: Thank you for the feedback. I agree that Grenth seems like he's lacking a little drama compared to Dwayna. I'll have to see if I can maniupate his head into a more 'charging' pose instead of a 'standing' pose. It may be difficult because I've already merged a lot of the layers, but I can always paint over it too. Thank you!
I really love the environmental painting feel on your piece so far. That smokey cloud painting in the background is really lucious and lovely. I think what's missing is something to break up the background foreground a bit. Maybe adding in a few tall trees in the middle ground, behind the people so that they're tall enough to go above the mountain line but not tall enough to go outside of the canvas would help. Then there just needs to be something in the foreground. Maybe off to the right side where there's alot of room you could have one of the defenders or the grenchies running towards the camera a bit. That would help make the battle feel more 3 dimensional instead of so left-right oriented.
Nemesis: The contrast is sooo helpful in your image, it's really starting to make everything pop out. Grenth and Dwayna are starting to take form and it looks like it's going to be really great. Everyone has real life, don't feel like you need to appologize!
Death By An Arrow: Aww, thank you! If it makes you feel better I am an art student which means I've had a few years of life drawing with live nude models and color theory and anatomy classes and such which really is just amazingly helpful. The size of the file is 9444 pixels wide, by 6695 pixels tall at 72 DPI. I usually work at a higher DPI but I forgot to set it at the beginning, lol. It will be scaled down a lot at the end. The screenshots I'm posting are less than 1000 wide. I agree about his leg, I haven't gotten to work too much on their torsos because I was focusing on the flowing cloth and the faces but I'm going to lighten it up a bit and paint in more details there. Thanks for pointing it out!
Tommy's: Thank you for the feedback. I agree that Grenth seems like he's lacking a little drama compared to Dwayna. I'll have to see if I can maniupate his head into a more 'charging' pose instead of a 'standing' pose. It may be difficult because I've already merged a lot of the layers, but I can always paint over it too. Thank you!
I really love the environmental painting feel on your piece so far. That smokey cloud painting in the background is really lucious and lovely. I think what's missing is something to break up the background foreground a bit. Maybe adding in a few tall trees in the middle ground, behind the people so that they're tall enough to go above the mountain line but not tall enough to go outside of the canvas would help. Then there just needs to be something in the foreground. Maybe off to the right side where there's alot of room you could have one of the defenders or the grenchies running towards the camera a bit. That would help make the battle feel more 3 dimensional instead of so left-right oriented.
Nemesis: The contrast is sooo helpful in your image, it's really starting to make everything pop out. Grenth and Dwayna are starting to take form and it looks like it's going to be really great. Everyone has real life, don't feel like you need to appologize!
GeminiJuSa
@InfestedHydralisk: Never heard of it :O I managed to get a hold of Adome premiere elements 9, but it keeps crashing on my bad computer, so I had to satisfy with a converter. Now I'm hoping moviemaker won't go bazoinkas on me... Last time I used it in XP it randomly crashed every now and then. The vista verson made me cry.
Thistle Xandra
Sorry, just popping in real quick, and missing people as I work backwards >.>
@Nemesis, that looks great, and the frozen ornaments explanation works It doesn't distract at all, just something that I noticed and hoped would be helpful to point out
@Gemini, very awesome! I can't wait to see the final video! I really like the glitter on the snow and how you did the green lighting effects from the smoke!
@Tommy, those mountains look really amazing! Only critique I can come up with is the middle mountain on the left looks off, like it's tipping over or something. I think it'd look a little better if there wasn't so much slope on the left side of that particular peak.
@satomz, I have a feeling your piece is going to make me cry D:
@Eastern, she's so gorgeous so far! I love the way you color and shade faces!
ugh... break time over
@Nemesis, that looks great, and the frozen ornaments explanation works It doesn't distract at all, just something that I noticed and hoped would be helpful to point out
@Gemini, very awesome! I can't wait to see the final video! I really like the glitter on the snow and how you did the green lighting effects from the smoke!
@Tommy, those mountains look really amazing! Only critique I can come up with is the middle mountain on the left looks off, like it's tipping over or something. I think it'd look a little better if there wasn't so much slope on the left side of that particular peak.
@satomz, I have a feeling your piece is going to make me cry D:
@Eastern, she's so gorgeous so far! I love the way you color and shade faces!
ugh... break time over
KiyaKoreena
@ GeminiJuSa. I hate Windows Movie Maker with a passion. Buggy thing, especially under Vista. I used it for my Halloween videos because I couldn't find my Adobe CD. I could only add half the transitions and titles on the first run through, then publish on the best setting I could and edit it again to get the rest in. Under some settings it would chop out the last letters on titles too but others would work fine. Hope you have better luck.
satomz
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Originally Posted by Thistle Xandra
@satomz, I have a feeling your piece is going to make me cry D:
I'll try to make it cry of joy then
frostkisses
Dont have much time for any indepth critique tonight, but everyones stuff is really starting to come together and it looks great. So excited to see the finished pieces!
Congrats to Gemini for being the first to finish lol
My update-
Tried to make it look more like a smirk like you mentioned Pery.
Just a note..I HATE coloring with yellows
I've got some shading/highlighting to do yet, but I'm still really stuck on what to do with the background. I dont wanna leave it white, but I also dont want anything that will take away from the focus of the drawing...Any ideas? I have limited access to photoshop, and I was maybe thinking of finding a snowy background and placing it in the background, but so far have not found anything I like.
Congrats to Gemini for being the first to finish lol
My update-
Tried to make it look more like a smirk like you mentioned Pery.
Just a note..I HATE coloring with yellows
I've got some shading/highlighting to do yet, but I'm still really stuck on what to do with the background. I dont wanna leave it white, but I also dont want anything that will take away from the focus of the drawing...Any ideas? I have limited access to photoshop, and I was maybe thinking of finding a snowy background and placing it in the background, but so far have not found anything I like.
Death By An Arrow
Arya, that explains alot I suppose. Is it like, a University/College/Equivalent level art-student? Because I could say I was an art student up until last year, since I didnt have room in my grade 11 year for art class. I do agree that colour theory is incredibly helpful; its one of the few things I seriously took out of my art class. Our high school only has a generalized traditional art couse. So is an anatomy class just a semester of drawing the human body?
` Marshmallow
xD Tommy omgshhh. MARSHMALLOWWANTSTOBEINTHEPICCIE8DDD -dances-
Started colouring mine :3:3 I just got through liking abunch of stuff on FB@__@ -boredbored-
I'm actually thinking of changing the grayish shading on Gwens dress to a pale blue <W< or pink.. D: I tried pink earlier and was mehhh..so idk idk @_@
Gemini - Ouuu~! I don't think I could ever livestream XD I'd be so distractedd <___<" D| And like..only draw for 15min max then youtube : DD!! I really love your final pic :'O The snow looks really fluffy. The little white spots really made it look nice xD <3
Nemesis - Wao @__@ .. I really love the way the icicles and snow turned out..that looks really great.. D': I'm so jealous..
frostkisses - OUUU <33 That turned out lovelyyy!! Shading in yellow is always a pain xD <3 The hand turned out great *w*!!! I love her nails ;D
Flying Ninja Monk
@Marsh: WAOOOOOOOOOOO! It's so cute!
I swear , if i had printed it, i would probably eat it...Mmm...would taste pretty awesome too...
Good work, I can't wait to see the final piece
@Nemesis: I love your work :P It's really epic...oh and as for the icicles on the decorations thing, i think it just makes it all the more awesome I was just wondering...in your drawing, will Dwayna and Grenth actually be standing, or will they be half-formed, in the air (Not like ghosts...but...well...you know what i mean....I hope...) I imagine drawing them standing would make alot of things awfully complicated, aswell as making the picture be sort of...dwarfed in comparison.
@Gemini: Hehe congratulations on finishing It's awesome! I didn't know you were doing a movie o.O
Oh and perynne....shouldnt you change my pic to digital art since i've gone photoshop all over it?
Quick edit, don't wanna post a new message just to ask a question...could anyone please explain to me why everyone uses the pen tool in digital colouring/painting?
I swear , if i had printed it, i would probably eat it...Mmm...would taste pretty awesome too...
Good work, I can't wait to see the final piece
@Nemesis: I love your work :P It's really epic...oh and as for the icicles on the decorations thing, i think it just makes it all the more awesome I was just wondering...in your drawing, will Dwayna and Grenth actually be standing, or will they be half-formed, in the air (Not like ghosts...but...well...you know what i mean....I hope...) I imagine drawing them standing would make alot of things awfully complicated, aswell as making the picture be sort of...dwarfed in comparison.
@Gemini: Hehe congratulations on finishing It's awesome! I didn't know you were doing a movie o.O
Oh and perynne....shouldnt you change my pic to digital art since i've gone photoshop all over it?
Quick edit, don't wanna post a new message just to ask a question...could anyone please explain to me why everyone uses the pen tool in digital colouring/painting?
Nemesis-of-the-Gods
Thanks everyone for all the feedback, it is always highly appreciated *hugs*
Wish that I had more time for critiquing your guy's art, I promise, maybe tomorrow if I get the time, I will sit here and look at everyone's work so far and write something about it, both good and what might need some work.
@Arya: Thanks! I've been trying to darken some areas and lighten others while still being somewhat careful. It's hard to take risks! Heh yeah I know, I guess that I just feel obligated to sometimes though.
@Thistle Xandra: Alright *phew* haha, no no, it was a very valid point that you made; it just looked really weird when I tried to make them look like they were moving in the wind...It looked wrong, so I'm glad that the frozen ornament thing works haha
Maybe I will make snow swirling around in the wind >.>
@Marshmellow: First off, I like Gwen in her little white dress, it's freakin' adorable! Your work is very nice. ~Secondly, Thank you, I am glad to hear that you like how it is turning out so far. Though I don't see why you are jealous *^_^*
@Flying Ninja Monk: Aww, Thank you so much! It's awesome that you noticed that I put icicles on the ornaments =P
And no, I planned on Grenth and Dwayna sort of being floating, like their bodies turn into mist at some point. Yeah no, that would look so weird if they were full bodied haha. I just want it to kind of look like they're looking down at the statue/world.
QUESTION!!! I am going to sound like a noob right now, but what exactly is the Workshop Party? It sounds like something fun that I would like to attend. But I don't know what it is >.>
Hopefully I will get to work on my picture more later, for now I'm off. ~Until next time in the awesome world of Guru
Wish that I had more time for critiquing your guy's art, I promise, maybe tomorrow if I get the time, I will sit here and look at everyone's work so far and write something about it, both good and what might need some work.
@Arya: Thanks! I've been trying to darken some areas and lighten others while still being somewhat careful. It's hard to take risks! Heh yeah I know, I guess that I just feel obligated to sometimes though.
@Thistle Xandra: Alright *phew* haha, no no, it was a very valid point that you made; it just looked really weird when I tried to make them look like they were moving in the wind...It looked wrong, so I'm glad that the frozen ornament thing works haha
Maybe I will make snow swirling around in the wind >.>
@Marshmellow: First off, I like Gwen in her little white dress, it's freakin' adorable! Your work is very nice. ~Secondly, Thank you, I am glad to hear that you like how it is turning out so far. Though I don't see why you are jealous *^_^*
@Flying Ninja Monk: Aww, Thank you so much! It's awesome that you noticed that I put icicles on the ornaments =P
And no, I planned on Grenth and Dwayna sort of being floating, like their bodies turn into mist at some point. Yeah no, that would look so weird if they were full bodied haha. I just want it to kind of look like they're looking down at the statue/world.
QUESTION!!! I am going to sound like a noob right now, but what exactly is the Workshop Party? It sounds like something fun that I would like to attend. But I don't know what it is >.>
Hopefully I will get to work on my picture more later, for now I'm off. ~Until next time in the awesome world of Guru
AryaBladedancer
Death By An Arrow: Well. haha. That's a bit of a question. I went to normal public highschool but they really didn't have ANY art courses. However, our high shool partnered with a local community college and had this program called Vo-Tech. Basically I spent the first half of the day at normal high school classes, english, math, science, etc, then in the afternoon we were bussed to the college which had students from maybe 5-8 local high schools come. They offered programs in everything from carpentry and masonry to business management, cosmotology, and culinary.
I was enrolled in the Advertising Design program so I spent 2.5 years there learning a lot about drawing techniques, color management, composition, how to use programs like Illustrator, Quark, InDesign, etc. I graduated high school with a certificate in Advertising design and another certificate in retail management.
Right now I'm a college student. I'm at the end of my 2nd year worth of classes and I'm enrolled at Art Institute taking the Media Arts & Animation program. I'm doing a lot of 2D cartoon animations right now and some intro level 3D modeling and animation work. It's exciting stuff!
In my spare time I am working on actually writing the story and creating art for my own original MMO world. Maybe in 7-8 years I'll have my own MMO and hold art contests.
I was enrolled in the Advertising Design program so I spent 2.5 years there learning a lot about drawing techniques, color management, composition, how to use programs like Illustrator, Quark, InDesign, etc. I graduated high school with a certificate in Advertising design and another certificate in retail management.
Right now I'm a college student. I'm at the end of my 2nd year worth of classes and I'm enrolled at Art Institute taking the Media Arts & Animation program. I'm doing a lot of 2D cartoon animations right now and some intro level 3D modeling and animation work. It's exciting stuff!
In my spare time I am working on actually writing the story and creating art for my own original MMO world. Maybe in 7-8 years I'll have my own MMO and hold art contests.
Perynne
@Nemesis: The Workshop party is a party hosted after the Workshop, for everyone who is interested. It's basically just to hang out and have fun for one last time, and I guess they hand out the prizes there too.
Ooh, the detail you've added is pretty! Grenth looks really Grenth-y, and Dwayna is coming along nicely too.
@Ninja Monk: Not everyone uses the pen tool, but it's really handy for selecting large areas, or selecting areas cleanly so there's no choppiness to your selection line. It's also good for creating clean lineart, by first going over the line you want with the pen tool, then using the Stroke feature. Here's a tutorial on how to use it in Photoshop: http://fav.me/d2n82o6
Also, will change your pic to digital art, thanks for pointing it out! Your drawing is coming along very nicely too, I love the detail on Dwayna.
@Verene: Your concept looks interesting. :3 I love vector art, even though I'm not very good at it myself. So far, I think you've managed to capture Dwayna nicely, can't wait to see where you take it next.
@Marsh: Eeee, so pretteh! <3 It's waaaaaay too cute for words. XD
@frostkisses: Perhaps use a soft orange/brown for the background? Slapping on a background on the computer will easily make it look unbalanced, because it's difficult to get traditional colouring to mix with computer colouring. Highlights and small tweaks are ok to do on the computer, but I find that using a cg background on a traditional work often just spoils the whole effect, because there's such a stark difference between the mediums.
So yeah, you could try doing really, really light coloured pencil shading for the background, using a light colour? Orange and brown could work nicely.
@GeminiJuSa: Good luck with the video! I can't really give any tips on that, since the only video program I've ever used was Adobe After Effects... and even that was years ago.
@Tommy's: That is looking superawesome so far! I think the background looks pretty good. Perhaps some last detail highlights once you get the rest of the stuff coloured, but that can come later.
@Morag: Eeeee, please enter! It's great seeing you here again, and I'd love to see an entry by you. You have such a lovely drawing style. :3
@satomz: Such sad lyrics... can't wait to hear the whole thing. I do agree that perhaps the lyrics still need some work, but can't really put my finger on what needs changing. Perhaps try to get the same kind of poetic style he has, by ending the lines in similar sounding words? For example, if you look at the last... uh.. stanza? paragraph? (I'm really, really bad at musical terms XD), you can see Sinatra has some words on every other line rhyming with each other. That can help to create harmony in the words, and make it fit together better.
Hope that helped.
Ooh, the detail you've added is pretty! Grenth looks really Grenth-y, and Dwayna is coming along nicely too.
@Ninja Monk: Not everyone uses the pen tool, but it's really handy for selecting large areas, or selecting areas cleanly so there's no choppiness to your selection line. It's also good for creating clean lineart, by first going over the line you want with the pen tool, then using the Stroke feature. Here's a tutorial on how to use it in Photoshop: http://fav.me/d2n82o6
Also, will change your pic to digital art, thanks for pointing it out! Your drawing is coming along very nicely too, I love the detail on Dwayna.
@Verene: Your concept looks interesting. :3 I love vector art, even though I'm not very good at it myself. So far, I think you've managed to capture Dwayna nicely, can't wait to see where you take it next.
@Marsh: Eeee, so pretteh! <3 It's waaaaaay too cute for words. XD
@frostkisses: Perhaps use a soft orange/brown for the background? Slapping on a background on the computer will easily make it look unbalanced, because it's difficult to get traditional colouring to mix with computer colouring. Highlights and small tweaks are ok to do on the computer, but I find that using a cg background on a traditional work often just spoils the whole effect, because there's such a stark difference between the mediums.
So yeah, you could try doing really, really light coloured pencil shading for the background, using a light colour? Orange and brown could work nicely.
@GeminiJuSa: Good luck with the video! I can't really give any tips on that, since the only video program I've ever used was Adobe After Effects... and even that was years ago.
@Tommy's: That is looking superawesome so far! I think the background looks pretty good. Perhaps some last detail highlights once you get the rest of the stuff coloured, but that can come later.
@Morag: Eeeee, please enter! It's great seeing you here again, and I'd love to see an entry by you. You have such a lovely drawing style. :3
@satomz: Such sad lyrics... can't wait to hear the whole thing. I do agree that perhaps the lyrics still need some work, but can't really put my finger on what needs changing. Perhaps try to get the same kind of poetic style he has, by ending the lines in similar sounding words? For example, if you look at the last... uh.. stanza? paragraph? (I'm really, really bad at musical terms XD), you can see Sinatra has some words on every other line rhyming with each other. That can help to create harmony in the words, and make it fit together better.
Hope that helped.
Flying Ninja Monk
Oki then...
I've tried many tutorials and i found that i fail at all of them for two reasons:
A) I didn't make a good lineart. It was on the background layer, with all the white filling...so i couldnt make any clear boundrys, ect...
B)The canvas was too small to have any type of detail
:P So im redoing the lineart, hopefully making the lines of gold thinner, less distinguished than the others...:P
Thanks so much for the help + tutorial Perynne Now i can make lineart *cheer*
Monk out!
Oh and Nemesis i have no idea what the party is too. I think it's where they announce the results, but thats all i know, and i think i may be wrong
P.S. Flying Monk used 12 Tzu Attribute Points on the Lineart skill!
I've tried many tutorials and i found that i fail at all of them for two reasons:
A) I didn't make a good lineart. It was on the background layer, with all the white filling...so i couldnt make any clear boundrys, ect...
B)The canvas was too small to have any type of detail
:P So im redoing the lineart, hopefully making the lines of gold thinner, less distinguished than the others...:P
Thanks so much for the help + tutorial Perynne Now i can make lineart *cheer*
Monk out!
Oh and Nemesis i have no idea what the party is too. I think it's where they announce the results, but thats all i know, and i think i may be wrong
P.S. Flying Monk used 12 Tzu Attribute Points on the Lineart skill!
InfestedHydralisk
@Gemini, I know that alot of GW video makers use it. And you can do the final finishing touches with Adobe After Effects. There are also alot of tutorials with Sony Vegas on youtube, if you ever want to know how to do something.
Flying Ninja Monk
Okay i just had to come back here to say...
Perynne be awesome!!!!! AWESOME!
Where would i be without her ? :P I always wondered how people made such pretty linearts...XD
I have a quick question to anyone who looked at my pic...I want to have some bits of the gold decorations bulging out slightly (Bad description, when i say bulging out don't think of a frog's eyes exploding, think of the metal being 3-d(ish))...so, should i include the slight bulge on the edge of her attire in my lineart, or should i just add the effect later while i'm colouring later? I mean if i add it while i'm colouring later it would overlap my lineart soo...
But still any advice is very welcome! Thanks
Perynne be awesome!!!!! AWESOME!
Where would i be without her ? :P I always wondered how people made such pretty linearts...XD
I have a quick question to anyone who looked at my pic...I want to have some bits of the gold decorations bulging out slightly (Bad description, when i say bulging out don't think of a frog's eyes exploding, think of the metal being 3-d(ish))...so, should i include the slight bulge on the edge of her attire in my lineart, or should i just add the effect later while i'm colouring later? I mean if i add it while i'm colouring later it would overlap my lineart soo...
But still any advice is very welcome! Thanks
Flying Ninja Monk
Oh and note to perynne, I'm mainly redoing my lineart because when i increased the size of the image/canvas, the lines became very fuzzy and undistinguished (these flaws were present prior to the expansion, just unseeable without copious zooming in >.>) so That's why...
Besides, lineart is just so fun!
Besides, lineart is just so fun!
Tommy's
Remember Monk that you can always expand to colour, and make it smaller again later. From what I understand you only want to enlarge your lineart because its too small to colour. Then set the image at 300 or 400dpi (which enlarges the image quite some ^^), colour it and when its done, then make the canvas smaller again. All the images I upload here, are painted a lot bigger.
Perynne
Oh gee, now I'm blushing. XD Just here to help, no need to specifically thank me. See? It even says so in text under my nick!
I think you should do the slight bulge in your lineart. If you're not planning on colouring over the lineart in any other parts, it'll look funny if the gold decorations pop out over the lineart in just that one part. It's important to keep the drawing looking somewhat uniform, so if you want to have a prominent lineart, then keep showing it for every part.
If you are planning on colouring a little over the lines, or doing highlights over the lines in other places, then it won't look so bad if you add the bulges later.
I think you should do the slight bulge in your lineart. If you're not planning on colouring over the lineart in any other parts, it'll look funny if the gold decorations pop out over the lineart in just that one part. It's important to keep the drawing looking somewhat uniform, so if you want to have a prominent lineart, then keep showing it for every part.
If you are planning on colouring a little over the lines, or doing highlights over the lines in other places, then it won't look so bad if you add the bulges later.
AryaBladedancer
*siiiigh* So I was working on the background for the picture, adding snow and blizzard movement, working on Grenth's positioning to make him more aggressive looking, flying snowballs, more detailing, and.... Photoshop crashes! :C Two hours lost because I'm an idiot and forgot to ssaaaaave.
SO, now that I feel completely defeated I have decided it's a good time to evaluate and adjust my piece. I wasn't liking the background and composition and it wasn't feeling wintersday. I managed to save the repositioning of Grenth which I like, and I'm thinking of making them in wintersday versions of their outfits. If not I will just make a background image in their normal colors lol. Or maybe something new all together. I'm feeling very lost on this one. T_T
Update Gallery: http://jnetrocks.deviantart.com/gallery/27490304
SO, now that I feel completely defeated I have decided it's a good time to evaluate and adjust my piece. I wasn't liking the background and composition and it wasn't feeling wintersday. I managed to save the repositioning of Grenth which I like, and I'm thinking of making them in wintersday versions of their outfits. If not I will just make a background image in their normal colors lol. Or maybe something new all together. I'm feeling very lost on this one. T_T
Update Gallery: http://jnetrocks.deviantart.com/gallery/27490304
Perynne
Oh wow Arya, that looks amazing! I love the idea of dressing them up in alternative outfits, and the whole positioning makes me think of some kind of "Wintersday Super Heroes" type thing. Yes, this is definitely more Wintersday and really has some humour thrown into the mix. I like!
I can totally relate with Photoshop crashing.... I've been working on my parents' Christmas present, and because the computer I'm using is not meant for anything very complicated, Photoshop will crash if I use more than five layers, or duplicate a layer then try to apply a filter to it, or even use the wrong kind of brush, or just because it likes to see me rage. :/ So I have to be very, very careful, and not work in the huge size I'd prefer.
I can totally relate with Photoshop crashing.... I've been working on my parents' Christmas present, and because the computer I'm using is not meant for anything very complicated, Photoshop will crash if I use more than five layers, or duplicate a layer then try to apply a filter to it, or even use the wrong kind of brush, or just because it likes to see me rage. :/ So I have to be very, very careful, and not work in the huge size I'd prefer.
Flying Ninja Monk
Hehe Awesome Arya, the costumes add so much to the drawing. it's so vibrant, and much more wintersday-ish ;D Without them, the old one just looked, although amazingly beautiful, very lack of Winter Oh and i just thought, something you may want to play around with...since you're adding the red, i think Dwayna's armour might look okay in gold though that's just me imagining it, you'd have to change it yourself to see =o just a suggestion! Keep up the epicness.
Ok i'm giving a small preview from my literature Well it's only a little bit of the Snowmens' awful singing
A nearby group of snowmen were singing, accompanied with the sound of an orchestra.
'Randalph the Rainbow Phoenix
Had a very pretty tail
And if you ever saw him
The rainbow itself would pale!
All of the imperial phoenixes
Used to give verbal abuse
They never let poor Randalph
Drink any phoenix Booze!
Then one foggy wintersday
Dwayna came to say
“Randalph with your tail so bright
won't you guide my sleigh tonight?”
No bird can match his beauty
So many colours you can't perceive
And all the imperial phoenixes
Are served on Xmas Eve!'
Ok i'm giving a small preview from my literature Well it's only a little bit of the Snowmens' awful singing
A nearby group of snowmen were singing, accompanied with the sound of an orchestra.
'Randalph the Rainbow Phoenix
Had a very pretty tail
And if you ever saw him
The rainbow itself would pale!
All of the imperial phoenixes
Used to give verbal abuse
They never let poor Randalph
Drink any phoenix Booze!
Then one foggy wintersday
Dwayna came to say
“Randalph with your tail so bright
won't you guide my sleigh tonight?”
No bird can match his beauty
So many colours you can't perceive
And all the imperial phoenixes
Are served on Xmas Eve!'
Edit: I apologize for any offence caused with earlier lyrics Changed the lyrics slightly till I can find something better suited Thanks to aeronwen for the Spoiler code
Aeronwen
@Ninja ~ umm what (short) name do you prefer?
type [*spoil] and [*/spoil] on either side, without the *
I know it makes a nice rhyme, and kids commonly do it but I am uncomfortable with the use of 'gay' as a term of abuse. Looking forward to reading the rest of it.
@ Arya ~ forgetting to save ^^ thats where my life goes. I like the Wintersday outfits are very much.
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Also I had a question, what if we already have all of the Wedding costume pack purchased? Would we get to choose a different prize if that one came with what we won if we did win? Just a question.
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I think, when Tzu gets some time, the prizes listed will be allocated to a category. If you win a prize you cannot use/do not want then it is up to you to give it away (offer it to the next workshop) or whatever but the prizes can’t be reallocated. Maybe there will be a different way of distributing prizes this year but I cannot think one.
Your pic just gets more awesome each update.
Magik ~ beautiful as ever
type [*spoil] and [*/spoil] on either side, without the *
I know it makes a nice rhyme, and kids commonly do it but I am uncomfortable with the use of 'gay' as a term of abuse. Looking forward to reading the rest of it.
@ Arya ~ forgetting to save ^^ thats where my life goes. I like the Wintersday outfits are very much.
[QUOTE=Nemesis-of-the-Gods;5327281]
Also I had a question, what if we already have all of the Wedding costume pack purchased? Would we get to choose a different prize if that one came with what we won if we did win? Just a question.
QUOTE]
I think, when Tzu gets some time, the prizes listed will be allocated to a category. If you win a prize you cannot use/do not want then it is up to you to give it away (offer it to the next workshop) or whatever but the prizes can’t be reallocated. Maybe there will be a different way of distributing prizes this year but I cannot think one.
Your pic just gets more awesome each update.
Magik ~ beautiful as ever
Flying Ninja Monk
@Arya...no offence, just meaning to like, help...but Grenth's right hand looks like a boot...eheh....
@Aeronwen...sorry again :P Uhm what were you talking about earlier?
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@Aeronwen...sorry again :P Uhm what were you talking about earlier?
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Tommy's
I think she ment how the hell we are supposed to call you Flying Ninja Monk, Ninja, Ninja Monk, monk etc etc.
And Arya, I really like the idea of giving them a christmas-like outfit, it indeed does fit the contest better ^^
And Arya, I really like the idea of giving them a christmas-like outfit, it indeed does fit the contest better ^^
Aeronwen
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Originally Posted by Flying Ninja Monk
@Arya...no offence, just meaning to like, help...but Grenth's right hand looks like a boot...eheh....
@Aeronwen...sorry again :P Uhm what were you talking about earlier? hehe, I just mean I am calling you 'Ninja', Tommy is calling you 'Monk' and probably someone else is calling you 'Flying' ^^ I just wondered which, if any, you preferred.
@Aeronwen...sorry again :P Uhm what were you talking about earlier? hehe, I just mean I am calling you 'Ninja', Tommy is calling you 'Monk' and probably someone else is calling you 'Flying' ^^ I just wondered which, if any, you preferred.
Flying Ninja Monk
Anything really =o Most people seem to call me ninja here...
I only made this guru account cause A) the one i made for auctions wouldn't work here and B) so i could enter this contest in game i'm Blue Screen of Doom so i usually get BSOD or Blue...
But here...just Ninja ;D
I only made this guru account cause A) the one i made for auctions wouldn't work here and B) so i could enter this contest in game i'm Blue Screen of Doom so i usually get BSOD or Blue...
But here...just Ninja ;D
Flying Ninja Monk
@Perynne...i fell in a great trap...al this lineart for these designs...I'm gonna eat something soon...most likely a small child XD
Order of Nature
Just to make this clear for myself but one can take part in this contest with the same art he/she is going to send to the official Guild Wars Wintersday-contest, right? If so then I'll be happy to join this happy-dee contest. I'll upload progress archive this weekend when I get to use scanner. Or maybe earlier this week. We'll see.
Well good luck to any other contestants!
Well good luck to any other contestants!
Eastern Magik
@IH hopefully it will be even cuter when i finish it :3333
@Frustration thanks ^__________^
@Tommy you are right, it is better with the smile
@Frustration thanks ^__________^
@Tommy you are right, it is better with the smile
and, yes, zoomed in is for the details
your picture is coming along really nicely, mountains <333333333333333
@Gemini thanks. I've made her smile i'll change her eye color, but thats something i'll do near the end.
Ooooooh, and i love your entry, snow looks so nice ^^ and minions :3333 cute ^_^
@Nemesis ty :*** your entry is amazing, full of details, i can't wait to see more ^^
@Arya thank you. uhh, and i know how it feels when you lose work *cries* im making this picture in corel painter and thats the only thing why i was able to continue with work. When i saved wip yesterday in ps, it messed up psd file, thankfully painter automatically saves backup file so i didn't lose anything ^^
loving the red costumes :333333
@frost nice smile <3
Flying Ninja Monk
Heh, when I first made the lyrics, the snowmen were supposed to seem crude and childish, but if I want to make it as if it's the general version in the world where Dwayna is Dwayna Claus (As where there is no Santa Claus or Rudolph, there is no 'original song' for them to parodize crudely is there?) So i'll perfect it some and bring it back
Erm i have a small question, photoshop related, if anyone could help me :
I was doing the lineart, and i had finished nearly the whole of Dwayna's legs before i noticed i had done it with a brush that had the Wet Edge setting on. is there any clean way to make it normal? (i.e. remove the see-through-ish ness without redoing lineart, going over with brush...i tried selecting but it gives a fuzzy outline. Feather maybe? Idk)
Erm i have a small question, photoshop related, if anyone could help me :
I was doing the lineart, and i had finished nearly the whole of Dwayna's legs before i noticed i had done it with a brush that had the Wet Edge setting on. is there any clean way to make it normal? (i.e. remove the see-through-ish ness without redoing lineart, going over with brush...i tried selecting but it gives a fuzzy outline. Feather maybe? Idk)
Verene
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Originally Posted by AryaBladedancer
Death By An Arrow: Well. haha. That's a bit of a question. I went to normal public highschool but they really didn't have ANY art courses. However, our high shool partnered with a local community college and had this program called Vo-Tech. Basically I spent the first half of the day at normal high school classes, english, math, science, etc, then in the afternoon we were bussed to the college which had students from maybe 5-8 local high schools come. They offered programs in everything from carpentry and masonry to business management, cosmotology, and culinary.
I was enrolled in the Advertising Design program so I spent 2.5 years there learning a lot about drawing techniques, color management, composition, how to use programs like Illustrator, Quark, InDesign, etc. I graduated high school with a certificate in Advertising design and another certificate in retail management.
Right now I'm a college student. I'm at the end of my 2nd year worth of classes and I'm enrolled at Art Institute taking the Media Arts & Animation program. I'm doing a lot of 2D cartoon animations right now and some intro level 3D modeling and animation work. It's exciting stuff!
In my spare time I am working on actually writing the story and creating art for my own original MMO world. Maybe in 7-8 years I'll have my own MMO and hold art contests. Hey, I'm also an AI student! Graphic Design for me, though. I actually don't like it much; I started last year when I was 23 and I've been doing GD stuff since long before graduated high school. So I kind of haven't learned anything that I didn't teach myself to do years and years ago (when it came to Image Manipulation, I was teaching the teacher shortcuts...sigh), and they won't let me skip any classes, and so I really feel that I'm wasting my time and money there.
I feel you on losing work I'm always forgetting to save constantly and sometimes Photoshop will crash and there goes all your work. I do like the reworked, piece, though, Looks nice
I was enrolled in the Advertising Design program so I spent 2.5 years there learning a lot about drawing techniques, color management, composition, how to use programs like Illustrator, Quark, InDesign, etc. I graduated high school with a certificate in Advertising design and another certificate in retail management.
Right now I'm a college student. I'm at the end of my 2nd year worth of classes and I'm enrolled at Art Institute taking the Media Arts & Animation program. I'm doing a lot of 2D cartoon animations right now and some intro level 3D modeling and animation work. It's exciting stuff!
In my spare time I am working on actually writing the story and creating art for my own original MMO world. Maybe in 7-8 years I'll have my own MMO and hold art contests. Hey, I'm also an AI student! Graphic Design for me, though. I actually don't like it much; I started last year when I was 23 and I've been doing GD stuff since long before graduated high school. So I kind of haven't learned anything that I didn't teach myself to do years and years ago (when it came to Image Manipulation, I was teaching the teacher shortcuts...sigh), and they won't let me skip any classes, and so I really feel that I'm wasting my time and money there.
I feel you on losing work I'm always forgetting to save constantly and sometimes Photoshop will crash and there goes all your work. I do like the reworked, piece, though, Looks nice
Aeronwen
@ Varene ~ It is the duty of the student
Without exception to be prudent
If smarter than the teacher, tact
demands that she conceal the fact
Anon
Maybe your college wil take you on as a teacher!
@ Magik ~ she is lovely but I am a little disturbed by her gloves having a perfect manicure, I am quite old-fashioned I know but can you explain that to me?
Without exception to be prudent
If smarter than the teacher, tact
demands that she conceal the fact
Anon
Maybe your college wil take you on as a teacher!
@ Magik ~ she is lovely but I am a little disturbed by her gloves having a perfect manicure, I am quite old-fashioned I know but can you explain that to me?
Tommy's
Halfway first Elf, but now computer has run slow, causing terrible irritation in my head, so enough for now I'll finish him tomorrow I hope. Not sure yet if I want him to look kind of happy or grim.