Wintersday Workshop 2010

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

The Mists

Guild Leader of: More than Seven Deadly Sins [Sins]

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Quick, UPDATE: http://nemesis-of-the-gods.deviantar...llery/27491109

I added smokey cloud thingies and darkened some things.... I am still thinking that it is missing something. I am not sure if I want to do the snow idea, for fear of ruining the overall composition of the picture. Any ideas?

@Verene: Hah yeah. Some papers you can't see through though. It feels weird to try and trace something.

@Oh_Frustration: Thanks. Well I tried to do that with the smokey cloud mist vapor, whatever your heart desires to call it, stuff but, eh I don't know.

@Marshmallow: Thanks, I do too. I don't like backgrounds much, but I have to add something to this, I just have to. It looks too incomplete even if it still looks good. Also, I am having a hard time making out what the image inside of the snow-globe in your drawing is supposed to be. What is it? haha

@GeminiJuSa: Because I, for one, do not own photoshop; and for two, this is not digital work. It is all 100% hand drawn in pencil on paper. So, that would not work out.

@KiyaKoreena: When you say that you can only use materials that you already have; does that mean that the Rit skill bar bracelet thing is out of the question??
And that pillow is really cute ^^


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bebe

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

Lmao.... everyones wippies looks amazing! =D

Still contemplating on if I should enter or not.. work in progress! Is there a deadline on when the last day to enter is? or just before it ends? XD

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GeminiJuSa View Post
If you want to trace something, why not use the pen tool in photoshop and then stroke it in a different layer? (or am I missing something?) Not everyone is working digitally

Deadline is in the first post, Bebe ;p January 1st, the day after the deadline for the official contest.

KiyaKoreena

KiyaKoreena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Kirins of Holy Light

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No rit skill bar for my entry. I think I will just have to make due with my first monk one because my goal is now to finish by the end of the week. >.< I know I will kick myself because that leaves a few weeks of "Oh I could do this and add this" but I've got so many non contest things I need to get done and if I promised myself I would practice restraint this contest time.

GeminiJuSa

GeminiJuSa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

BhLd

E/Mo

DEKIMASHITA!!! (It's done!)

And the video only took me about 50h to get together, excluding the time to draw the drawing >_<

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOyNtgJx2gY <---the link to the youtube video!

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Netherlands

None

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@ Gemini What the hell, is that you singing? You are like seriously pro! Seriously.

And nice walkthrough!

GeminiJuSa

GeminiJuSa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

BhLd

E/Mo

@InfestedHydralisk: Yepp, it's me singing, at 4AM without warming up properly and without singing at all for the passed week :P And I can't really sing that song too seriously.

(people who wanna know what we're talking about have to watch my video ;P)

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Netherlands

None

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@Gemini, I just figured you actually Geminirolled me at the end.

Perynne

Perynne

Site Contributor

Join Date: Oct 2006

Finland

Runners of the Rose [RR]

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Haha, great video Gemini JuSa! You do have a very lovely voice, both for speaking and singing.

I like how you presented your drawing process, and your comments were well-delivered and interesting too. Good job!

@Ninja Monk: It's best to have the whole lineart in one layer. Well... I guess it's about preference, but I don't think there's any need to work on a bazillion different lineart layers when one or two should be enough. The more layers you use, the harder it will be to keep track of them, and the more your computer will complain.
Multiply basically makes your layer see-through. Try it out on a new canvas - scribble on a normal layer, then make a new layer on multiply and scribble on that on top of the normal layer. Can you see how the colours both look good on the white area, but they get "blended" darker where they touch? Generally, a multiply layer is like putting a see-through film with colour on top of the previous layer, and depending on the bottom layer's colour you will get different results.
Other layer styles can be useful too, so I suggest trying them out.


Lovely artwork and progress from everyone! I don't have time to comment much today because I've been stupid and slacking off with getting drawing done. Trying to minimize distraction so that I can actually get my parents' present done.

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

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@Dutch ~ Nice article. I do not see how hosting an in-game quest stops you drawing for us though, maybe just a little one?
@Zidane ~ That made me smile, even though I am feeling sorry for the mouse. Wonderful pic.
@ Magik ~ That’s so lovely, her crown is so pretty. The smile is just right and the perfect manicure makes sense  and oooh I want that bearcub. Totally awesome
@ Satomz ~ I can’t wait to hear it.
@Tommy ~ Those elves are great, the slightly grumpy look is so much better than happy.
@ Nemisis ~ Maybe leave it for a while and come back to it after a few days? I am not sure what happens if you do something you don’t like but it can’t be easy to change it. As the pic is so lovely do be cautious.
Verene’s idea is a good one, I have one of those tables that pull apart to put extra leaves in, and when I have needed to trace something I pull it apart a little and take the glass out of one of my picture frames to put across the gap, with a lamp under the table it works ok with printer paper. Of course I would be furious if one of the children did it!
@Kiya ~ Your first monk one was lovely though, the colours are great. When you first met that cute girl in pre did you have any idea that she could be so terrifying?
@ Gemini ~ Wow, if that’s you, you have a lovely voice. The video was very interesting, I honestly had no idea how much work goes into these pictures. I very much enjoyed watching it. Now we want more singing :P

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

The Mists

Guild Leader of: More than Seven Deadly Sins [Sins]

Rt/

It's early here and I am tired, but I would like to say:

@GeminiJuSa: First of all your picture turned out amazing, I love the final layers that you added, you really captured the night-time well; and the glittering snow looks great! You put a lot of work into this, the video tutorial was nice to watch, I'm not used to digital mediums so it kind of gave me an small look of what you can do. Overall I think that it is a successful piece of art that you should be proud of. And you should definitely be proud of that voice!!! You probably have one of the best singing voices that I have heard

@KiyaKoreena: Aww, shame. Oh well. Your other works are just as amazing anyhow haha.

@Perynne: Don't feel too bad. I know the feeling, been there done that haha.

@Aeronwen: Yeah, I will probably not touch it over the weekend. But I want to have it completely finished and touched up by the 16th. I was thinking of maybe adding a small black border (shaded in with pencil) to the image, to kind of tie it all in, since it feels a bit too much like it's falling off the paper for me, like something to hold it in would maybe please the eye a bit more. Don't think that I will add the snow. The scene already kind of looks like the aftermath of snow so I think that the cloudy smoke things were risky enough. I need to touch them up for sure though X_X
And yeah, pencil, as well with various other traditional mediums; while it erases, you still have to be cautious with it. Otherwise you get erase lines, or you end up just ruining the picture and you can't take out what you did without erasing parts that you really like and end up not being able to draw them the same way twice. It's a nightmare haha.
That's really cool though. I should see about getting one of those in the future. Ha, of course. And yeah, sad but true, I do use Printer Paper most often, it's about all I got. I have actually learned how to work with it over the years though

And Gwen is somewhat secretly, evil, we all know it deep down inside. XD

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

@Frustration ty and arms still need work :S this one is taking a lot longer than my usual paintings -_-

@Verene thanks *hug*

@Marsh ^_^ head thingy still lacks some details like feathers :O

@Shewmake ty ^^

@Kiya it looks amazing ^^

@Tommy ahahaha, their facial expressions are priceless XDDDDDD

@Gemini nice tutorial ^^ and yay for the song

@Aeronwen

` Marshmallow

` Marshmallow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2009

Canadaa!

Last Friday Night [TGIF]

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Nemesis - >w<! <3 It's uhmm a screenie of Divinty's Reach in GW2 :3 xD

Gemini - Omg your voiceee D': -melts- <3 That videoooo is ossum @__@ <33 Now I must rick roll myself <_<

-cheers Bebe on- :'D



Hopefully her arm isn't as chubby o: I started colouring dwayna <W< but I don't feel liek saving/uploading atm XDD

-death levels charr- D:<

Tommy's

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

Mo/

Marsh, I have no idea how you managed... But that Gwen actually looks sort of kind. Yet I still don't trust her. I think you might want to look again at her lower arm though, seems to be bending a bit strange. At least I would start to worry when my arm acted like that But hell, I would seriously started to worry if I looked anything like that anyway Though walking through the world as a 2D figure would have its cool parts *starts daydreaming...*

Flying Ninja Monk

Flying Ninja Monk

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2010

Fuzzies Anonymous [Fuzy]

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@Marsh: I think that is SO AWESOME! <3 She can slay charr with Epic Cuteness I think the only problem about that arm is the hand...it looks to be bent abit wierd
@Nemesis: Amazing! I really love it, and i think that falling snow would make it abit cluttered yes =o Right now the only thing i think is that the water pouring looks abit like snow (maybe that's just me w/o glasses o.O)
@Perynne: Flying Ninja Monk has gained 1 level in: Photoshop Knowledge
Thanks!
@Gemini: I currently has video loading. Net here is an epic phail, capital 'P'.

GeminiJuSa

GeminiJuSa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

BhLd

E/Mo

InfestedHydralisk: I don't own any music rights so I had to do it akapella XP

Perynne: Thanks a bunsh ^^ I think I speak a bit muddy though :P Sound like a kid haha. I once called the pizzeria when I was ill for home delivery. They thought I put my kid on the phone so they gave us lollipops for the kids XD

Aeronwen: Normally it doesn't take as long as it did this time because I did count the time I had to stop for documentation on what I did (not during the streams though, pure work there, ~3h per sitting) and I've never put down so much effort on a background before. Normally it takes about 8h maximum for my most advanced pics with digital lineart. I'm not gonna do this if each pic will take 17h (yes I will, but I won't like it) X_X

Nemesis-of-the-Gods: Awwh, you're far too kind ^^ I've been having a little troll watching me make this piece, and it kept complaining on how bad it was and how I could do better, so I'm a bit so-so about it. I might make another piece once I'm done with my commissions, to see if it turns out better. I had a lot of fun planning and making the video, despite all the hair pulling about the video editing.

Eastern Magik: Now you know how I sound :O

Marsh: I felt like I just had to have a credits song, and thought it'd be fun to "spice it up" a bit with a roll ;P Your piece is turning out sooo nice! I'm at awe over the folds on the dress!

Flying Ninja Monk: Did you see it yet?

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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Gemini - your video is awesome, and holy crap I adore your accent. And I cracked up at the credits (your singing is lovely) XD

Marsh - TOO DAMN CUTE.

I have to put off working on my entry a bit, I'm too broke to buy Christmas gifts for people this year so I'm making a ton of stuff. Currently about three-quarters through knitting a Hello Kitty hat (one of three or four!), need to make calendar Christmas cards for my mom and several other people, need to assemble the cookbook I'm making for my boyfriend's mom, and I have a ton of baking to do. Awesome XD Luckily I enjoy doing these things and it shouldn't cost me much.

Tommy's

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

Mo/

More progress



Great lesson I learned today is never underestimate the power of contrast. Think the contrast make it look a lot more alive. Thought I'd share this with the others, seems to be an ever returning point I guess. To compare:



Looks better huh? I never say this about my own stuff, but I really love these little guys. They are so funny. Wish Hoodie could see them

Spark Addiction

Spark Addiction

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2010

Igloo on Jupiter

The Ishimura

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im gonna feel kinda awkward jumping in here, but here it goes...!
marshmallow invited me to join you guys since i tried out for the halloween contest and failed
sorry to disrupt the flow with outsider jibber jabber :P

GeminiJuSa

GeminiJuSa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

BhLd

E/Mo

@Spark Addiction: This is what we say about new art in the workshop:




Gotta feed the art hungry ones ;P


Spark Addiction

Spark Addiction

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2010

Igloo on Jupiter

The Ishimura

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i just thought id throw in an intro so if i post something or help someone out theyre not like "lolwut" XD

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

The Mists

Guild Leader of: More than Seven Deadly Sins [Sins]

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UPDATE: http://nemesis-of-the-gods.deviantar...llery/27491109

Soooo, I think that I might be done with it.... All else that I can think to do is to scan it in better cause it kinda scanned crooked, and maybe do something about the quality of the scan. But otherwise I think that I am finished!! I added a thin border to it today and just touched up a few things about it. For some reason my scanner was set to scan in the picture darker yesterday, so it looks a bit more natural now to how it looks in person now...besides crappy scan quality. I think that I might need to touch up the light rays too... But yeah, so, finished?!! Finally?!!! haha XD

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Marsh: Ahh alrighty. Also, I absolutely love that lace on Gwen's dress!! And I agree with Ninja here, it might just be the angle of her hand that is making things look a bit off.

Ninja: Thank you =] -Hmm, maybe it is the glasses thing, because I don't believe that it looks like snow >.> I've tweaked with that frozen water way too much to want to try to go back and do it again haha.

GeminiJuSa: It's true! I really love how you sing.
Psh, kick that troll in the face. It's a really cool piece, it has a lot of creativity, and I really do think that you did a nice job at drawing everything. The snow looks very realistic, the sky with the moon, stars and clouds looks great. The bone fiends are the cutest things ever, and you gave the Necromancer a personality that gives the whole picture a sort of mood, and it really goes nice together. (plus you did a fantastic job on her armor) People always judge art on how well someone can draw a light-bulb...or whatever, ya know. Like, it's not always about how great you can draw something because I can tell you that even the people with the most amazing technical drawing skills in the world can suck just because they don't have creativity and it makes their work, while it's still really awesome sure, I mean it IS hard to draw something exactly how it's seen; but when there's nothing else to it but that REALLY GREAT realistic looking, photograph quality light-bulb, then it's no fun to look at for very long. It's cool when people can make that light-bulb exploding and shards of glass going everywhere and sparks flying... I'm not saying that every drawing like that is bad though either, in the end it really comes down to personal preference. Bah you get where I am going with this? Ignore people who bash your art, grow stronger from it. Use it as a motivation to do even better and make that person say "Wow that's the best drawing in the world!" You know?
I've dealt with my fair share of people telling me that my art isn't very good, especially this past week, and I've had a lot of support about it and yes it does still hurt you to hear someone say that about something that you so dearly worked on for many hours, but remember that that's only one person's opinion! Like with my art teacher, I have just kind of been ignoring his comments this week ever since he started telling me that my art is boring since it's mainly all pencil work. I was VERY upset, but now I kind of see it as that's one out of how many people's opinions in the world? Don't get too down about it and I totally understand why you would be though. That's all I am trying to say.

I hope that helps your self-confidence in your picture a bit more. Hopefully I didn't just sound like a huge [email protected]@$$ heh.

Sorry for typing sooooo much! I felt the need to say that, cause it's totally not cool when people talk bad about other people's art, critique and point out flaws to make better; yes of course! But to be rude about it, is just lame.

Tommy's: Contrast for the win!! Haha, yeah I love contrast. It's true, you wouldn't really think about it at first but it does make such a difference! Anyways, I love how your elves look, their facial expressions are so funny, and I adore those mountains, they look epically awesome.

Verene: Wow! Someone's a busy worker elf this year
Hah, that's cool though that you are doing all of that. I do hope that you get some time to work on your piece though, you have a really nice idea!


Do I type the most here? I feel like I do...

Wellll, I hope you all didn't die from reading some, if not all of this!!!

GeminiJuSa

GeminiJuSa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

BhLd

E/Mo

Nemesis-of-the-Gods: I could find comfort in the fact that the little troll can't even draw a stick figure :P It doesn't get me down, but it does however affect how happy I am about a picture. Usually I start to dislike them after a week then I find them ok after a year or so. Telling me my drawing suck is like adding gasoline to the fire; I want to draw something better and slap it in the face. The troll wants me to draw something better because it thinks I'm super awesome with leet drawing skills, but no matter what I draw, it's ugly. It's the same when I sing: "No! Sing properly instead! you're much better than that!". I find it ironic.

As everyone has commented in the thread already; your art teacher sucks and should know that pencil art is an entire genre in itself! Just because it doesn't suit your art teachers taste, it doesn't mean it's bad. It's like saying Claude Monet sucked because he didn't paint lines in his paintings. >_< VERY unprofessional of your teacher!

Thank you for saying so many nice thing of my drawing ^^ It brightened my night up.

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

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Gemini; that video was awesome! Its always interesting to see how different people approach art.
I feel like this was an elaborate rick roll attempt. :P

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2010

Uggh… sorry, busy week so haven't had a chance to stop by and post Looks like my Dec 31st deadline's been lifted so I'm planning on taking the last week in December off for vacay… hopefully I can come up with something during that time for a last minute entry…

Anyway, working backwards…. sorry for missing some people D:

@Verene, I missed the boat! What are you working on there? Last I read you were working on the vector piece. You knitted such a cute little hat I love the little bow!

@ Gemini: lol, your video and the little written comments were so awesome! I love your accent and it was so cool watching your piece over time! rofl, just got to your MOAR post now XD

@nemesis: that looks really great! You have so much detail in there! I can't imagine doing that without smudging it if it was me D:

@Tommy: lol, you and contrast But yeah, the elf (on the right in the comparison shots) looks really great! Just noticed the detailing on the top left of that close-up image. Is that a special brush you used? That looks like real paint scraped against a canvas!

@Marsh: aww! I love how you drew Gwen in her puffy dress and her awesome lace! Did you make a special brush for that?

@satomz: looking forward to hearing your piece! I'm terrible at reading fast high notes though D:

@koreena: ooh, nice pillow! looks comfy

@Magik: WOW! She's gorgeous! I love her crown and the design you used for the front part! That polar bear is too cute

@zidane: that's great! I can't believe that only took you 4.5 hrs. Poor mouse though, maybe we can pretend he pulled a thorn out of the charr's paw and so he gave the mouse a present as thanks?

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

R/

Welcome Spark

Does that mean you are going to enter? If so do you have a progress gallery?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GeminiJuSa View Post
@Spark Addiction: This is what we say about new art in the workshop:

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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Thistle - I'm still doing the vector piece! I just have to put it aside for a few days so I can work on Christmas gifts; I'm knitting Hello Kitty hats for my boyfriend's little sister, and apparently both of my sisters (decided to make one for my 9 year old sister, posted the pattern on facebook, and my 18 year old sister went "OMG I WANT ONE PLEASE" XD) Thanks!

If I have enough time and leftover yarn I might figure out a pattern for a Freezie hat, though.

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

@Spark welcome

@Nemesis it looks really great. Only thing i can say is that you can adjust levels in photoshop after you make final scan to make it look even better (if you have ps that is )

@Verene that hat is soooo cute :**********


and heres mine... added textures, background, more hair (yay), made polar bear more puffy, adjusted the colors, wings, tiara, fingers ...



now i only need to make some small changes to the background, and add skin texture :X

Tommy's

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

Mo/

Looks great Magik. Really like the look of the trees in the background. And that crown came out wonderful! Just 2 things I would like to say that might improve your piece:

1. The snow. Small cloud, no wind? Because there is no snow in front of her

2. I would put the wing a little bit to the right or to the left. Because I was like, 'huh why the hell did she give that polar bear a tail' Because they have quite similar colours and their edge has the same direction they look to be the same. I didnt notice the higher parts of the wing, because the face and the polar pull the most of the attention. Just a tiny bit removed of the wing would be better I think.

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

1, yes, i turned down layer with snow in front of her, so not to distract me too much when i need to add details on her skin.

and 2. oh ouch nice tail XD will fix it, thanks for pointing that out

Shewmake

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Alabama

Mo/D

@Nemesis: Very Wintersday-esque! The only suggestion I have would be to consider adding a little more detail to Melandru, as she looks a little plain compared to everything else, but of course, it's your call, and I'm no artist.

@Eastern Magik: I'm impressed with the amount of detail you've put into that! To me, though, the blue tint on her skin near her elbow almost looks like a bruise to me (maybe it's slightly too dark?).

@Marshmallow: Hehe, cute is all I have to say.

@Satomz: Looking forward to hearing it!

@Tommy's: The contrast definitely helped. Looking good!

As for my progress, I've finished the piano part, which you can listen to here: http://www.4shared.com/audio/Wg6M2nnx/WDPIANO.html

It begins with the GW2 sylvari theme, then transitions to a GW2 charr theme/"Carol of the Bells" segment. Then GW2 asura theme/CoB segment; then GW2 norn theme/CoB segment; then finally, the human segment, which is the GW2 human theme rearranged to sound like Christmas music you'd hear at a church.

I've just gotta add the other instrument(s). Definitely have to add the strings, but I'm still considering the plucked piano.

Any suggestions on how the overall arrangement sounds?

Tommy's

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

Mo/

Ok more progress from my side again.
* Refined the mountains (a lot )
* Adjusted colour of the sky to a bit more blue and a bit lighter
* Made the Elfs a bit brighter
* Lightened the base of the whats to become snowman
* Added (verys strong) Candy Cane ladder
* Repositioned the characters working on the snowman.
* Made the issues I had with the ground bigger



Think this might be(come) my biggest and most time consuming piece, so really really hope it will get rewarded this year. So every suggestion is welcome to improve it!

Morag D

Morag D

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2007

UK/Austria

[bone]

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suff's coming along really nicely here

@ Magik: great piece, amazing detail! makes me smile too
@ tommy: hehe I can see this being a lot of fun! the little elf guys are awesome

I've been racking my brain a bit and in my eternal quest to be ... different, I've come up with an idea for a painting that could be really cool - or it could totally crash and burn XD
not revealing too much here, for now, until I can get some sketches done

laters!

` Marshmallow

` Marshmallow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2009

Canadaa!

Last Friday Night [TGIF]

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garghgargh so I got a job..and I start monday <__> and its full time. XD" but its only for a month.. i probablyyyy wont...finish this piccc XD -lazyyyy-

as for the lace, Thistle, I drew it once :3 then copy and pasted it around the dress, changing size/angle ofc. : D so I'll post what i have so far in a secondsss


....also....

did the winners from the halloween contest recieve their prizes yet? o -o (besides mini xD)

:U