@InfestedHydralisk: Shew got 2nd place in 08 Contest with his piano composition.
Edit: I feel better after venting. Thanks people.
Wintersday Workshop 2010
satomz
Chicken of the Seas
Congrats to all the winners from here! Although my favorites have to be Daniel F's (hmm wonder who that could be =P), Meghann B's (awww). A lot of them were kinda dark this year, maybe its just my monitor?
I am surprised that more weren't placed though. We seemed to have more colorful works here that IMO I liked better.
I am surprised that more weren't placed though. We seemed to have more colorful works here that IMO I liked better.
Flying Ninja Monk
Aww, no more gw1 workshop :P
I wonder, maybe i'll try enter gw2, even though i probably won't have it by then :P
Will there be a canthan workshop? :P I don't see it happening tbh but never hurts to ask
I wonder, maybe i'll try enter gw2, even though i probably won't have it by then :P
Will there be a canthan workshop? :P I don't see it happening tbh but never hurts to ask
` Marshmallow
Ouuuu Canthan new year or w/e is bunny ?~ ! Or were those changed too? >:cccccc
Verene
Oh wow, it is the year of the rabbit this year isn't it.
MUST GET MINI BUNNY <3
MUST GET MINI BUNNY <3
KiyaKoreena
There is less than a month before CNY so maybe a different theme for the next workshop? And it is year of the bunny. :-)
Minami
The Canthan Workshop is Tommy's project 
It's up to him whether he plans on running it
I have way too much IRL stuff going on to be able to actively participate in a workshop now, whether it's helping to run it or entering it.
It's up to him whether he plans on running it I have way too much IRL stuff going on to be able to actively participate in a workshop now, whether it's helping to run it or entering it.
InfestedHydralisk
@satomz; ok, well, then I don't know. :/
The Workshop's theme should be Bunny Fever! Imagine a Master Bunny Togo, Bunny Shiro etc.
Or maybe Bunny Samurai's and Bunny Ninja's? <3
The Workshop's theme should be Bunny Fever! Imagine a Master Bunny Togo, Bunny Shiro etc.
Or maybe Bunny Samurai's and Bunny Ninja's? <3
Verene
Last year the Canthan workshop was timed with the Dragon Festival, I think. I think something for Canthan New Year is just too soon after Wintersday.
InfestedHydralisk
@Verene; that's true, if it was with Canthan New Year then it should have already been up.
KiyaKoreena
Yep, that sounds correct. Argh.... thinking of CNY and celestial bunnies all over the place now.
Death By An Arrow
-coughcough-
technically Mina is running a workshop on deviantART (for those who don't already know). Deadline is Feb 28th, and the theme is you have to use one of the given refrences. Not necessarily the same type of workshop, as the workshop-y stuff was the build up to this contest. There are some prizes, including points and comissions. It doesn't have to be guild wars either, but theres nothing saying it cant be ;P
-exitcoughcough-
Might I suggest Birthday or April fools for the next guru workshop? They take place in April, so the workshop could start early-mid march.
technically Mina is running a workshop on deviantART (for those who don't already know). Deadline is Feb 28th, and the theme is you have to use one of the given refrences. Not necessarily the same type of workshop, as the workshop-y stuff was the build up to this contest. There are some prizes, including points and comissions. It doesn't have to be guild wars either, but theres nothing saying it cant be ;P
-exitcoughcough-
Might I suggest Birthday or April fools for the next guru workshop? They take place in April, so the workshop could start early-mid march.
Tommy's
I wasn't really considering a Canthan Workshop, looking at the enthousiasm of last year. But bunnies sure sound interesting ^^ So if there is enought animo..
But...! Perhabs Invertation has something big planned for us?
But...! Perhabs Invertation has something big planned for us?
Nemesis-of-the-Gods
Alright, so quick question everyone. I need a backup plan for money since I didn't win anything in the official contest; and I got wonderfully suggested the option of doing drawing commissions of your guy's GW characters for some in-game cash.
I am highly considering doing this, even though I have a lot of AP art class stuff to work on, I would really like to be able to do this as a side thing when I have the time, to earn some in-game money. Plus I think it'd be fun to do some GW character drawings ^^
So I read somewhere about not being able to start a thread or something without permission or certain qualification? I was just wondering, how would I start my own thread or whatever for doing commissions here, if I am allowed to?
-Thanks.
I am highly considering doing this, even though I have a lot of AP art class stuff to work on, I would really like to be able to do this as a side thing when I have the time, to earn some in-game money. Plus I think it'd be fun to do some GW character drawings ^^
So I read somewhere about not being able to start a thread or something without permission or certain qualification? I was just wondering, how would I start my own thread or whatever for doing commissions here, if I am allowed to?
-Thanks.
GeminiJuSa
@Nemisis; if you want to open a commission tread, go ahead! Nothing stopping you, and I think you'll get plenty people lining up. You make a new thread in the nolani forum. Take a look at the existing threads for inspiration on how to put your original entry
If your thread doesn't appear straight away it's because it needs to be validated by a moderator first, so don't be alarmed
If your thread doesn't appear straight away it's because it needs to be validated by a moderator first, so don't be alarmed
Tommy's
Pretty much what Gimini said, there is no qualification for commission (other then that you can't ask real life items for it I think). Even if your drawings where the absolute worst (which yours definatly aren't) then you have every right to open a commission thread. Only thing you should consider is how much you're going to ask for a drawing and what system your going to use (like auction, only 1 slot a time, 3 slots a time etc. etc.), but I'm sure you can figure something out to your liking
Minami
@Nemesis: Check your PMs, I sent you a detailed one on opening commission threads ^_^
Hope it helps
Hope it helps
Verene
Also, as someone who tried and failed to do commissions - don't be afraid to say no, and don't underprice your work. Seriously Otherwise you'll find yourself overwhelmed and with not much to show for it.
Otherwise you'll find yourself overwhelmed and with not much to show for it.
Death By An Arrow
Minami could you send a copy of that PM my way? I was thinking of opening a thread later once I've got more things to post up example wise, and I wasnt sure if I wanted to do comissions or free practice-i want you refrence- type threads. could help me make up my mind :3
Perynne
Congratulations to everyone who placed! Quite a few nice non-Guru entries this year, although there were so many more awesome entries in the Workshop that should've at least gotten an honourable mention. Zidane's, Tommy's, satomz's and Minami's entries totally should've ranked in the official contest.
This will be the last GW1 contest entry for me too. I'm a little disappointed in how they run things (from completely copying last year's text to not even sending out an automated confirmation email that the entry was received, or writing clearly what kind of entries are accepted).
I also admit that I'm wondering why they didn't like my entry. :P Oh well... at least the Workshop is more equal and gives wonderful feedback on entries, and is definitely a thousand times better than the official contest because people actually care and pay attention to what they're doing. It's nice that Arenanet takes the time to host contests for us, but I wish they would put a little more thought into the details.
I don't mind losing, I just wish they had more entries that I'd love to lose to.
As for hosting future Workshops, I'd be glad to help. As long as people are interested and genuinely care about developing their artistic skills, I would be very happy to be a part of it.
The Workshop party date is ok for me too! I will be able to make it on that day. Now to start anticipating the Workshop results.... :3
Quite a few nice non-Guru entries this year, although there were so many more awesome entries in the Workshop that should've at least gotten an honourable mention. Zidane's, Tommy's, satomz's and Minami's entries totally should've ranked in the official contest. This will be the last GW1 contest entry for me too. I'm a little disappointed in how they run things (from completely copying last year's text to not even sending out an automated confirmation email that the entry was received, or writing clearly what kind of entries are accepted).
I also admit that I'm wondering why they didn't like my entry. :P Oh well... at least the Workshop is more equal and gives wonderful feedback on entries, and is definitely a thousand times better than the official contest because people actually care and pay attention to what they're doing. It's nice that Arenanet takes the time to host contests for us, but I wish they would put a little more thought into the details.
I don't mind losing, I just wish they had more entries that I'd love to lose to.
As for hosting future Workshops, I'd be glad to help.
As long as people are interested and genuinely care about developing their artistic skills, I would be very happy to be a part of it.The Workshop party date is ok for me too! I will be able to make it on that day. Now to start anticipating the Workshop results.... :3
bebe
Congrats to those who placed! I am disappointed in some of the mentions on the website as a lot of great works I saw here.. )= Oh wells. T_T
Looks like the date for the party is a day I can attend.. yay ^^;
Looks like the date for the party is a day I can attend.. yay ^^;
Verene
Do we have a time for the party?
(and I actually don't know if I'll be on that day - this past few days at work's been very hectic so I don't know my schedule for this week yet ^^; )
(and I actually don't know if I'll be on that day - this past few days at work's been very hectic so I don't know my schedule for this week yet ^^; )
Minami
!!! PARTY DETAILS !!!
Wintersday Workshop Party:
Date: Saturday 22 jan 2011
Time: 12:01pm GMT - 00:01am GMT (sunday)
Location: Ice Tooth Cave (Prophecies, North/West Shiver Peaks)
Officials:
Tzu
Minami
Perynne
Arghore
Tommy
Dj's During the party:
Ptm
Gallo
Serine
Judge
SEE YOU THERE, EVERYONE! ^_^
EDIT: As soon as Tzu knows when she can be at the party, I'll write out the winners announcement times in another post
The first post will also be updated with the winners' names as we go along ^_^
Wintersday Workshop Party:
Date: Saturday 22 jan 2011
Time: 12:01pm GMT - 00:01am GMT (sunday)
Location: Ice Tooth Cave (Prophecies, North/West Shiver Peaks)
Officials:
Tzu
Minami
Perynne
Arghore
Tommy
Dj's During the party:
Ptm
Gallo
Serine
Judge
SEE YOU THERE, EVERYONE! ^_^
EDIT: As soon as Tzu knows when she can be at the party, I'll write out the winners announcement times in another post
The first post will also be updated with the winners' names as we go along ^_^
Nemesis-of-the-Gods
@Gemini: Alright, it being validated first by a moderator was probably what I read somewhere about restrictions. Thank you =]
@Tommy: Yeah I am just looking for in-game money so no worries there. And thank you too.
@Minami: Thank you, it was very helpful and I will reply to it soon as well (after I reply to everyone here)
@Verene: That's one thing that I am really hung up on, is that I absolutely don't know how much to price my art for. I don't want to either cut myself short in not getting enough payment and I don't want to cut others off by making them pay too much than what my art is worth too. Since in-game money has a completely different value than real life money, I am not sure how to price it. (I've never really been too great at pricing things in real life either XD )
Maybe you could help me with that somehow?
Also, about the Party: I will be attending, though if I am correct 12:01 p.m. GMT is about 4:01 a.m. PST?? That's bright and early for sure XD
So I would show up anywhere between 4 a.m. and 4 p.m. here, am I correct? Because I certainly do not want to miss out on the awesome party! ^^
@Tommy: Yeah I am just looking for in-game money so no worries there. And thank you too.
@Minami: Thank you, it was very helpful and I will reply to it soon as well (after I reply to everyone here
)@Verene: That's one thing that I am really hung up on, is that I absolutely don't know how much to price my art for. I don't want to either cut myself short in not getting enough payment and I don't want to cut others off by making them pay too much than what my art is worth too. Since in-game money has a completely different value than real life money, I am not sure how to price it. (I've never really been too great at pricing things in real life either XD )
Maybe you could help me with that somehow?
Also, about the Party: I will be attending, though if I am correct 12:01 p.m. GMT is about 4:01 a.m. PST?? That's bright and early for sure XD
So I would show up anywhere between 4 a.m. and 4 p.m. here, am I correct? Because I certainly do not want to miss out on the awesome party! ^^
Verene
Nemesis - it's tricky. I was doing stuff for between 10k-40k, and since I was doing chibis on the lower end of the price range and those were popular at the time, I had a bunch of requests for chibi art which didn't necessarily take less time to make than something I was charging more for. As a result I realized that with the time I was taking on those drawings, I could have farmed 3-4 times that much money (and I'm not a heavy-duty farmer by any means - I farm feathers for most of my income in-game). I could have charged much more for my stuff, but I tend to be a bit down on my abilities.
Most people do 'tiers', I suppose you can say - like "for this much, I'll do this. For that amount, I'll do that.", with simple stuff being cheaper and more complex things being more expensive.
And then there are always going to be a few people who will pay any amount for art, and there's something of a tradition of tipping artists here as well. Being as there's not many people taking commissions at the moment, I'm pretty sure you can price however you want and have no troubles. Just keep in mind the time investment for each drawing, and see what other people have been charging recently.
Most people do 'tiers', I suppose you can say - like "for this much, I'll do this. For that amount, I'll do that.", with simple stuff being cheaper and more complex things being more expensive.
And then there are always going to be a few people who will pay any amount for art, and there's something of a tradition of tipping artists here as well. Being as there's not many people taking commissions at the moment, I'm pretty sure you can price however you want and have no troubles. Just keep in mind the time investment for each drawing, and see what other people have been charging recently.
Arghore
Just to make something clear, which, now i see it again, might be read wrong ... the party lasts for 12h from saterday 12:01h pm GMT till 24:00h pm GMT on Saterday ... perhaps i should have made the time 23:59h GMT just to make sure the time could not be misunderstood ... (so incase you wondered, its not lasting untill 23:59h on sunday) ... the rest of the info is right though
GW-EN will help us out with music, 'on air' trivia and announcements of the WorkShop Winners
And there will be some additional entertainment
Hope you all can make it, if only for a lil while, we kept the timewindow as large as possible to give every timezone a chance to come hang out, on a 'hopefully for most people' free day ...
@Nemisis, you are correct, show up anywhere in those 12h and join the fun
GW-EN will help us out with music, 'on air' trivia and announcements of the WorkShop Winners
And there will be some additional entertainment
Hope you all can make it, if only for a lil while, we kept the timewindow as large as possible to give every timezone a chance to come hang out, on a 'hopefully for most people' free day ...
@Nemisis, you are correct, show up anywhere in those 12h and join the fun
Chicken of the Seas
Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to make it, as its kinda early and I have work that morning. =P
Verene
Yay I am off that day and hence will be at the party. Not the entire time, mind, since it starts at 6am my time, but at least for the second half of it I'll be there ^^
What district are we taking over, though? International 1, like we have in the past?
What district are we taking over, though? International 1, like we have in the past?
Perynne
Oooh, I think I'll be able to come hang out for most of the party. :3 Looking forward to it!
@Nemesis: When I was doing commissions, I priced things according to about how long they'd take to do. A full-colour, full body, detailed background drawing was around or over 100k; a coloured bust drawing with a simple background around 40-50k.
The pricing should really depend on what you think your own work is worth. Some people ask for more, some people less, and you won't know what will work best for you until you open up your commission thread. You should also remember that there are quite a few people here with extra money who are willing to pay high prices for a commission. So, perhaps set some base price for a drawing style that comes easily to you, and then also let people suggest their own ideas and what they'd be willing to pay for it?
I've found that people in Nolani tend to be very fair when it comes to payment. There are occasional lurker visitors who don't know the "unwritten rules" about commissioning, but if you do commissions to the regulars here you can expect to get a fair price for your work.
@Nemesis: When I was doing commissions, I priced things according to about how long they'd take to do. A full-colour, full body, detailed background drawing was around or over 100k; a coloured bust drawing with a simple background around 40-50k.
The pricing should really depend on what you think your own work is worth. Some people ask for more, some people less, and you won't know what will work best for you until you open up your commission thread. You should also remember that there are quite a few people here with extra money who are willing to pay high prices for a commission. So, perhaps set some base price for a drawing style that comes easily to you, and then also let people suggest their own ideas and what they'd be willing to pay for it?
I've found that people in Nolani tend to be very fair when it comes to payment. There are occasional lurker visitors who don't know the "unwritten rules" about commissioning, but if you do commissions to the regulars here you can expect to get a fair price for your work.
Thistle Xandra
Looking forward to the party, yay! BTW Pery and Minami, I still haven't synched up with Tzu to give my donation, are you collecting them, too, or should I just wait until the party (I would probably show up mid-way since I'm PST)?
InfestedHydralisk
I will definitly be there, unless I have a super hangover or something; which I rarely have anyway so I'm good!
@Verene; yeah probably ID1.
@Verene; yeah probably ID1.
GeminiJuSa
I'll go party even if I have a hangover (thought I dunno how I'd get one since I don't drink... but oh well ;P)
(thought I dunno how I'd get one since I don't drink... but oh well ;P)
Arghore
humbugs, i forgot to include the district in my email to Minami !! ...
luckely you guys allready guessed where it's going to be, International District 1 of Ice tooth cave ...
luckely you guys allready guessed where it's going to be, International District 1 of Ice tooth cave ...
Penguin oO
My first loss (sad face)
is something wrong with my internet? i cant seem to find zidane, Minami, Tommy's, Perynne work on gw winners page
i will try to come to the party if i don't forget
is something wrong with my internet? i cant seem to find zidane, Minami, Tommy's, Perynne work on gw winners page
i will try to come to the party if i don't forget
Flying Ninja Monk
Ooh party sounds fun!
Thanks a bunch arghore, for organizing, and thanks to those who donated!
Uhm just thought i'd say, for those of you that got tonics, i found someone called Audrey Valencia trying to buy an el reindeer :P I think i really shouldn't have mentioned that , but hey, sue me
Other than that...see y'all at the party...and how on earth are you going to know who's who? I mean i don't have any chars called Flying Ninja MOnk, for example
Thanks a bunch arghore, for organizing, and thanks to those who donated!
Uhm just thought i'd say, for those of you that got tonics, i found someone called Audrey Valencia trying to buy an el reindeer :P I think i really shouldn't have mentioned that , but hey, sue me
Other than that...see y'all at the party...and how on earth are you going to know who's who? I mean i don't have any chars called Flying Ninja MOnk, for example
Verene
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Originally Posted by Flying Ninja Monk
Ooh party sounds fun!
Thanks a bunch arghore, for organizing, and thanks to those who donated!
Uhm just thought i'd say, for those of you that got tonics, i found someone called Audrey Valencia trying to buy an el reindeer :P I think i really shouldn't have mentioned that , but hey, sue me
Other than that...see y'all at the party...and how on earth are you going to know who's who? I mean i don't have any chars called Flying Ninja MOnk, for example They already PMed me asking if I'd sell mine, and I've gotten several whispers in-game asking to sell it. Seriously, let me get it first
And while not everyone goes by their character names on here we generally figure out who is who pretty easily. Otherwise just go "Hey I'm FNM" when you arrive ^^
(also I'm dragging my boyfriend with me to the party - he was going to enter but didn't have time to unfortunately)
Thanks a bunch arghore, for organizing, and thanks to those who donated!
Uhm just thought i'd say, for those of you that got tonics, i found someone called Audrey Valencia trying to buy an el reindeer :P I think i really shouldn't have mentioned that , but hey, sue me
Other than that...see y'all at the party...and how on earth are you going to know who's who? I mean i don't have any chars called Flying Ninja MOnk, for example They already PMed me asking if I'd sell mine, and I've gotten several whispers in-game asking to sell it. Seriously, let me get it first
And while not everyone goes by their character names on here we generally figure out who is who pretty easily. Otherwise just go "Hey I'm FNM
" when you arrive ^^(also I'm dragging my boyfriend with me to the party - he was going to enter but didn't have time to unfortunately)
InfestedHydralisk
Well, if you see someone walking around with a Starcraft name, that would be me.
Death By An Arrow
12pm GMT is 7AM Est right?
i... likely wont have anything that day, so I'll try and stop on by. I can atleast try to make it to each prize announcement.
i... likely wont have anything that day, so I'll try and stop on by. I can atleast try to make it to each prize announcement.