Wintersday Workshop 2010
Death By An Arrow
@tuna; i dont believe search and find games can be owned, so I'd say go for it ^^ that would actually be fun
Chicken of the Seas
Well they have I Spy books, which is why I was asking. =P Like this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xAH8loSGYn...0590450874.jpg and this http://www.scholastic.ca/ispy/books/...treme_samp.jpg
So I wanted to do something similar. =) Oh well, I'll just put it down for now I guess. =P
Name: Chicken of the Seas (Tuna)
Idea for entry: An I Spy Wintersday book. Or some other parody of a classic Christmas story.
Genre of art: Scrapbook/Real life crafts
Progress gallery will be here: http://anxietypatient.deviantart.com/gallery/27269131
So I wanted to do something similar. =) Oh well, I'll just put it down for now I guess. =P
Name: Chicken of the Seas (Tuna)
Idea for entry: An I Spy Wintersday book. Or some other parody of a classic Christmas story.
Genre of art: Scrapbook/Real life crafts
Progress gallery will be here: http://anxietypatient.deviantart.com/gallery/27269131
Death By An Arrow
I knew there were books (i have a few myself :3) but i just ment the concept isnt copyrightable. Plus, you could always just call it a search and find or something :P
am excited to see it in fruition ^^
am excited to see it in fruition ^^
GeminiJuSa
I decided to put up a little WIP here, just to get some comments on it
There are some slight changes that will be made while outlining with a mechanical pencil, but they don't show here...
Waddaya think? :O
There are some slight changes that will be made while outlining with a mechanical pencil, but they don't show here...
Waddaya think? :O
Chicken of the Seas
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Originally Posted by Death By An Arrow
I knew there were books (i have a few myself :3) but i just ment the concept isnt copyrightable. Plus, you could always just call it a search and find or something :P
am excited to see it in fruition ^^ Alright thanks, that's what I was hoping as well. =P
am excited to see it in fruition ^^ Alright thanks, that's what I was hoping as well. =P
Darcy
I Spy is an old children's game and also an old American TV series. Only the exact I Spy logo is trademarked to the people who started the book series, not the phrase.
Chicken of the Seas
Looks like full steam ahead then! Hopefully I'll be able to have the time to work on it.
Perynne
Back from a long and busy weekend! I shall try to be active today and draw draw DRAW.
@Al'zarigus: Very nice WIP of Kuunie! I love the idea of her as a red-nosed reindeer pulling a sleigh. It's a bit hard giving more constructive comments on a drawing that's a bit blurry though. Perhaps try resting the camera against a table for stability, and shining a lamp or something against the drawing itself so it'll show better? Can't wait to see more!
@GeminiJuSa: Glad to see you're entering too.
I like your WIP sketch, the background looks lovely and the composition is well done. Her legs could be a tad bit longer - right now, they look a little small compared to her upper body. Otherwise I really can't find anything to comment on, it's looking so nice.
@Death By An Arrow: Awww, the bears are so cute. :3 I do agree that there's a lot of empty space behind them, and the previous suggestion of adding a Christmas tree or something behind there sounds good. You can also just crop the image so that there's less background visible - it would shift the focus exclusively on the cute bears.
@Al'zarigus: Very nice WIP of Kuunie! I love the idea of her as a red-nosed reindeer pulling a sleigh.
It's a bit hard giving more constructive comments on a drawing that's a bit blurry though. Perhaps try resting the camera against a table for stability, and shining a lamp or something against the drawing itself so it'll show better? Can't wait to see more! @GeminiJuSa: Glad to see you're entering too.
I like your WIP sketch, the background looks lovely and the composition is well done. Her legs could be a tad bit longer - right now, they look a little small compared to her upper body. Otherwise I really can't find anything to comment on, it's looking so nice. @Death By An Arrow: Awww, the bears are so cute. :3 I do agree that there's a lot of empty space behind them, and the previous suggestion of adding a Christmas tree or something behind there sounds good. You can also just crop the image so that there's less background visible - it would shift the focus exclusively on the cute bears.
Death By An Arrow
alright, here was my solution to the offbalancing issue; dA Link
I figured id throw in the snowman that was suppost to summon when the polar bear "used" the snowman summoner. I also added in some more rocks to the left side to work in some radial balance (i don't think I've ever used that term... not even when we learned it in art class o.O)
Cropping/growing the image could work as well, and might actually be a more viable solution. I just know it needs to stay this size ratio because it matches my bristol board exactly and makes transferring easy. :P
I figured id throw in the snowman that was suppost to summon when the polar bear "used" the snowman summoner. I also added in some more rocks to the left side to work in some radial balance (i don't think I've ever used that term... not even when we learned it in art class o.O)
Cropping/growing the image could work as well, and might actually be a more viable solution. I just know it needs to stay this size ratio because it matches my bristol board exactly and makes transferring easy. :P
Operative 14
@GeminiJuSa: I love the concept, everything looks good, though I have to agree with Verene that her torso looks a bit out of proportion. I think I'd take advantage of it and make her torso a bit smaller, I think that would balance out the picture a bit better as well.
@Death By An Arrow: Good lord that's so precious! I can't wait to see the finished product!
@Verene: I love winter - though I live in Phoenix. :P
Okay guys here's my WiP, I updated the ribbons a bit and redid where they characters are. Hopefully they balance out the picture, they play off the whole background theme of winter being a competition between Grenth, Dwayna, and their respective followers, and also add in a few fun elements for all the memories.
I still have a bunch of little details I want to add, but I think this is pretty much my finished layout, unless anyone has some convincing nitpicks.
@Death By An Arrow: Good lord that's so precious! I can't wait to see the finished product!
@Verene: I love winter - though I live in Phoenix. :P
Okay guys here's my WiP, I updated the ribbons a bit and redid where they characters are. Hopefully they balance out the picture, they play off the whole background theme of winter being a competition between Grenth, Dwayna, and their respective followers, and also add in a few fun elements for all the memories.
I still have a bunch of little details I want to add, but I think this is pretty much my finished layout, unless anyone has some convincing nitpicks.
Tommy's
That looks a lot better! Stil not a fan of the characters though, they just don't seem to fit in imo, don't know why, perhabs they are a bit too pointy and square
And Gimini, looks great, I see I'm not the only one that has improved
:3 But like Pery said, perhabs make her legs a bit longer.
And Gimini, looks great, I see I'm not the only one that has improved
:3 But like Pery said, perhabs make her legs a bit longer.
GeminiJuSa
Thank you all for your nice words
I like a style where the legs aren't anime long, because in real life, very few women have that long legs. I didn't think the legs were short at all actually, but the feet might be a bit small now when I think about it, it's just that my necro has small feet on the avatar too... Maybe her legs look shorter because she's got thighs? Her left leg (the right for us) is at a bit of an awkward angle though...
@Verene: I am gonna change the mouth for many reasons. Originally she wasn't smiling and I decided to change that to a calm slight smile at her little Bone fiends, just to make the feeling more cosy.
@Tommy: Thank you ^^ Though I haven't developed anything digitally... Now I'm drawing by hand (I've actually lost a lot of skill on that :/ ) so it's a bit more forgiving but my scanner hates me for some reason
You all like the Bone Fiends?
I like a style where the legs aren't anime long, because in real life, very few women have that long legs. I didn't think the legs were short at all actually, but the feet might be a bit small now when I think about it, it's just that my necro has small feet on the avatar too... Maybe her legs look shorter because she's got thighs? Her left leg (the right for us) is at a bit of an awkward angle though...
@Verene: I am gonna change the mouth for many reasons. Originally she wasn't smiling and I decided to change that to a calm slight smile at her little Bone fiends, just to make the feeling more cosy.
@Tommy: Thank you ^^ Though I haven't developed anything digitally... Now I'm drawing by hand (I've actually lost a lot of skill on that :/ ) so it's a bit more forgiving but my scanner hates me for some reason
You all like the Bone Fiends?
Perynne
@GeminiJuSa: Yeah, I dislike the super-long, super-thin anime legs too. I still think the legs look a little too small. They don't necessarily need to be longer much, just.... well, compare the width of her shoulders to the width of her hips. Her hips are tiny in comparison, so it makes the top part of her tower over the lower parts. It's not bad to have wide shoulders on a woman, but it can easily make her look unbalanced in the drawing. So if you want to keep shorter legs, then you may want to balance it out by making her hips wider as well, so that her lower body is able to support the top.
Also, not sure how much realism you're going for in height/proportions, but her head is a little too large for more realistic proportions. It looks great for more cartoonish proportions though.
The bone fiends are very, very cute! I like. <3
@Operative14: Looking good! The dark elf and grench on one side bothers me a little though, because they're a really dark spot in an otherwise white area, and really draw attention to themselves. The snowman on the other side is not dark enough to steal the attention from them for long, so you may want to tweak the colours a bit there.
@Death By An Arrow: That looks a lot more balanced! Can't really find anything to comment on at this point.
Also, not sure how much realism you're going for in height/proportions, but her head is a little too large for more realistic proportions. It looks great for more cartoonish proportions though.
The bone fiends are very, very cute! I like. <3
@Operative14: Looking good! The dark elf and grench on one side bothers me a little though, because they're a really dark spot in an otherwise white area, and really draw attention to themselves. The snowman on the other side is not dark enough to steal the attention from them for long, so you may want to tweak the colours a bit there.
@Death By An Arrow: That looks a lot more balanced! Can't really find anything to comment on at this point.
Minami
Updated first post ^_^
Welcome back, Gemini
I am a bit super busy this weekend, will post CC when I have some time.
So far, such good WIP pics everyone! Keep up the awesome work
Welcome back, Gemini
I am a bit super busy this weekend, will post CC when I have some time.
So far, such good WIP pics everyone! Keep up the awesome work
novawhiz
Question: They mention in rules only 1 entry per person, but does this mean 1 entry per household? So if you have brothers/sisters/friends who live in your house and have their own guildwars account, they simply cannot enter the contest because someone is that house is already?
also, why no rhode island?
also, why no rhode island?
Minami
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also, why no rhode island?
As for Rhode Island, here's the long version:
Perynne
1 entry per person is just that. Per person, not per household. Rules usually have to be very word-specific, so they would use the word "household" if it was meant to be like that.
I don't think they'd be so mean as to restrict siblings' possibilities of entering. :P
Dunno about Rhode Island. There always seems to be some places that are outside of the normal contest laws.
I don't think they'd be so mean as to restrict siblings' possibilities of entering. :P
Dunno about Rhode Island. There always seems to be some places that are outside of the normal contest laws.
Perynne
WIPs:
The colour version DOES NOT show the colours I will be using, I just wanted to see how the colour scheme I had in my mind would work. Came to the conclusion that it will still need some work. Perhaps having a finished greyscale to work with would make it look better.
I will be doing the basic lighting and shadows in greyscale, then the magic effects and textures in the colour version. Also, thinking that it will need some more Wintersday elements, like presents and such... but not sure where I should place them or if they'd make it look too crowded.
The colour version DOES NOT show the colours I will be using, I just wanted to see how the colour scheme I had in my mind would work. Came to the conclusion that it will still need some work.
Perhaps having a finished greyscale to work with would make it look better.I will be doing the basic lighting and shadows in greyscale, then the magic effects and textures in the colour version. Also, thinking that it will need some more Wintersday elements, like presents and such... but not sure where I should place them or if they'd make it look too crowded.
Arghore
You forgot a bell on one of the strips of the dress ... looks weird, other than that, going in the right direction ! me likes it a lot
Tommy's
Looks very nice Pery I think the colours would work better if you made the ground more greybrown instead of redbrown. Also her hands bothers me (the one up in the air). The pinky seems off, too long 
Also you are making her summon a cloud that snows or snow? Both would do good, but now its a bit of a strange mixture My suggestion would be either make the cloud a bit bigger and let the snow fall down very peacefully (now if looks like its catching quite a bit of wind from the side) or make her hand like some sort of snow machine.
And the temples/houses in the back.. not very Guildwarshy, but me likes Though the lines of the centered building are in a wrong perspective I think. The ones on the side of the temple should go more upwards.
And is MSN failing on anyone else? Can't seem to get online, think its because that stupid newer version with Facebook pluginnonsense.
I think the colours would work better if you made the ground more greybrown instead of redbrown. Also her hands bothers me (the one up in the air). The pinky seems off, too long Also you are making her summon a cloud that snows or snow? Both would do good, but now its a bit of a strange mixture My suggestion would be either make the cloud a bit bigger and let the snow fall down very peacefully (now if looks like its catching quite a bit of wind from the side) or make her hand like some sort of snow machine. And the temples/houses in the back.. not very Guildwarshy, but me likes
Though the lines of the centered building are in a wrong perspective I think. The ones on the side of the temple should go more upwards. And is MSN failing on anyone else? Can't seem to get online, think its because that stupid newer version with Facebook pluginnonsense.
Perynne
@Tommy's: Snow-machine hand.... XD This is Guild Wars, I won't draw any robotic hands!
And yeah, I'm still working on the magic thing, I like your idea of making it more cloud-like. The houses are almost directly from a screenshot I took in Marga Coast, so they're definitely GW. They'll probably look better when I finish detailing them, and making them look more like mud-huts.
Thanks for the feedback! <3
And MSN is working fine for me.
Maybe your connection is off somehow?
@Arghore: Thanks for pointing it out! I moved her legs a little bit and forgot to draw the bell back in. :P
And yeah, I'm still working on the magic thing, I like your idea of making it more cloud-like. The houses are almost directly from a screenshot I took in Marga Coast, so they're definitely GW. They'll probably look better when I finish detailing them, and making them look more like mud-huts.
Thanks for the feedback! <3
And MSN is working fine for me.
Maybe your connection is off somehow?@Arghore: Thanks for pointing it out! I moved her legs a little bit and forgot to draw the bell back in. :P
Tommy's
Oh didnt think of those houses. Though yours look more like piramids while those gw ones look more like termite houses I'd rather live in yours xD Will patiently wait till you finished detailing them before I will crush you with comments again
And everything else involving internet seems to work fine, and its really msn thats acting strange somehow. Also when my mouse hovers over it sometimes is disapears ):<
I'd rather live in yours xD Will patiently wait till you finished detailing them before I will crush you with comments again And everything else involving internet seems to work fine, and its really msn thats acting strange somehow. Also when my mouse hovers over it sometimes is disapears ):<
Death By An Arrow
@Perynne I think the buildings are too small. If you take in the size of the door to the size of the kids, right now the perspective says its a perfect fit. But since the elementalist is twice-ish their size, it would require her to be like gandalf visiting frodo in the shire xD
alternatively, if you think she would be tall enough to walk in, the buildings have to be quite the distance from them, at which point the ground would be wrong would need to be extended.
alternatively, if you think she would be tall enough to walk in, the buildings have to be quite the distance from them, at which point the ground would be wrong would need to be extended.
Perynne
Gandalf-robo-ele!
Thanks for pointing it out, I totally didn't notice the wrong size of the buildings. Backgrounds aren't my strong point so I tend to miss things like that.
@Tommy's: Try a web-browser Messenger? Those ones where you don't need to have the actual MSN Messenger installed, you can just access it from your browser. See if that works. :3
Thanks for pointing it out, I totally didn't notice the wrong size of the buildings. Backgrounds aren't my strong point so I tend to miss things like that.
@Tommy's: Try a web-browser Messenger? Those ones where you don't need to have the actual MSN Messenger installed, you can just access it from your browser. See if that works. :3
Death By An Arrow
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Gandalf-robo-ele!
a sitcom coming summer 2011; wednesday nights after The Big Band Theory!
a sitcom coming summer 2011; wednesday nights after The Big Band Theory!
satomz
@Perynne: Love the color scheme on the ele. Really makes her look like an mortal envoy of Dwayna.
Operative 14
Great work Perryanne! It has such a nice, festive feel to it. Love the concept to, I always wondered where all that snow in Kamadan came from.
` Marshmallow
Yaay moar wips. :U <3!
Gemini thats looking great * w* <3
Arrow - XD OMG THATS SOO CUTEEE. and -gasp- its big enough for a wallpaperr D': <3
Operative - waow! O: I really like the shiney beams of sparklies at the bottom o wo <3
Pery - :'333 Baww <3 I love her ribbonnn <33~!
Gemini thats looking great * w* <3
Arrow - XD OMG THATS SOO CUTEEE. and -gasp- its big enough for a wallpaperr D': <3
Operative - waow! O: I really like the shiney beams of sparklies at the bottom o wo <3
Pery - :'333 Baww <3 I love her ribbonnn <33~!
Death By An Arrow
o; marsh says its cute, and marsh is the master of all things D'AWWWW. hooray
Its only that big because i wanted to make it identical to the size of the bristol board im using. Since the dimensions are the same, it wont get distorted when i transfer it over ^^
Which im going to start now. Ive realized im going to need to find a way to, once finished, make it digital yet still high quality. not sure if my cheap digital camera can do that... hrmm.
Its only that big because i wanted to make it identical to the size of the bristol board im using. Since the dimensions are the same, it wont get distorted when i transfer it over ^^
Which im going to start now. Ive realized im going to need to find a way to, once finished, make it digital yet still high quality. not sure if my cheap digital camera can do that... hrmm.
Verene
Looks awesome, Pery, I love the ele's colors
Death - best bet is to get your hands on a tripod. You can probably pick up a cheap one from a dollar store (we have like...three of those around my house), or borrow one from a friend. That way you can set up the drawing where you want to photograph it, and then put your camera on the tripod to make sure everything's exact. Beyond that, set it to the highest resolution and quality settings that it has available, so that when you load it into the computer it should be high quality.
Death - best bet is to get your hands on a tripod. You can probably pick up a cheap one from a dollar store (we have like...three of those around my house), or borrow one from a friend. That way you can set up the drawing where you want to photograph it, and then put your camera on the tripod to make sure everything's exact. Beyond that, set it to the highest resolution and quality settings that it has available, so that when you load it into the computer it should be high quality.
Thistle Xandra
oh wow! amazing WiPs so far
Aeronwen
Oooh more WiPs
@ Gemini, I love your start. I agree that the proportions on the char seem a trifle unusual. The bone fiends are cute
@Death ~ yeah the snowman adds something, looking forward to see how this develops. It’s a lovely picture.
@Operative ~ This is a pretty picture but there is something distracting about the different elements of the picture, I am not sure how to say what I mean. They do not seem, quite coherent at the moment.
@Pery ~ This looks great, makes me shiver to see her bare feet in the snow. I really love the concept here. The lost bell is a little distracting ^^
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@ Gemini, I love your start. I agree that the proportions on the char seem a trifle unusual. The bone fiends are cute
@Death ~ yeah the snowman adds something, looking forward to see how this develops. It’s a lovely picture.
@Operative ~ This is a pretty picture but there is something distracting about the different elements of the picture, I am not sure how to say what I mean. They do not seem, quite coherent at the moment.
@Pery ~ This looks great, makes me shiver to see her bare feet in the snow. I really love the concept here. The lost bell is a little distracting ^^
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Looks very nice Pery ]
And the temples/houses in the back.. not very Guildwarshy, but me likes
I recognise these from Elona
]And the temples/houses in the back.. not very Guildwarshy, but me likes
I recognise these from Elona
GeminiJuSa
@Perynne: I think her porportions must be a part of my "style", which more or less is based on real people I know (among all myself) so I dunno, but I will take these words to mind when I keep developing it ^^
@Death By An Arrow: Thank you! I will as I said do some minor adjustments, but basically, that will be it ^^; About the forest: It's supposed to be an open area behind her, like a biiig glade.
@Death By An Arrow: Thank you! I will as I said do some minor adjustments, but basically, that will be it ^^; About the forest: It's supposed to be an open area behind her, like a biiig glade.
Death By An Arrow
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@Death By An Arrow: Thank you! I will as I said do some minor adjustments, but basically, that will be it ^^; About the forest: It's supposed to be an open area behind her, like a biiig glade.
Ahh, then the gap is fine as it is ^^
So ive started adding colour to my piece. Im doing the adorable footy polar bear first. I'm making him slightly blue as opposed to a bright white because I figured that light would reflect off the really blue ground ice dungeon cave flooryness. When i post my next WiP (tonight) let me know if you think it would be too blue. Ill upload a screen shot of the colour it will be next to for comparison.
I forgot just how sticky my fingers get when I do this kind of art... :x
[email protected]:12pmEST
Well, clearly this thread was jumping tonight... /sarcasm
So to prevent a double post Im just going to add on here
dA Link One bear done, with my cellphone for size comparison. You can compare the size of the bear to the bear in the sketch to get an idea of the size im working Tell me what you think about the shading, some of it didnt show up (glare from other magazine pieces) because of how I had to have my lamp positioned in the room.
Thanks Martha Stewart Living.
So ive started adding colour to my piece. Im doing the adorable footy polar bear first. I'm making him slightly blue as opposed to a bright white because I figured that light would reflect off the really blue ground ice dungeon cave flooryness. When i post my next WiP (tonight) let me know if you think it would be too blue. Ill upload a screen shot of the colour it will be next to for comparison.
I forgot just how sticky my fingers get when I do this kind of art... :x
[email protected]:12pmEST
Well, clearly this thread was jumping tonight... /sarcasm
So to prevent a double post Im just going to add on here
dA Link One bear done, with my cellphone for size comparison. You can compare the size of the bear to the bear in the sketch to get an idea of the size im working
Tell me what you think about the shading, some of it didnt show up (glare from other magazine pieces) because of how I had to have my lamp positioned in the room. Thanks Martha Stewart Living.
` Marshmallow
Arrow - XDD <3! Ee :33 i just wanna hug it D':
I'm excited to see more wips from everyone~ ; u; <3333
I guess I should start working on mine again! -slacking off- XD
I'm excited to see more wips from everyone~ ; u; <3333
I guess I should start working on mine again! -slacking off- XD
Death By An Arrow
Everytime i get your comments it makes me want to work really hard right now :3But i cant cause its late and i have school tomorrow Dx Ill try and get more completed tomorrow :3
` Marshmallow
|D Baww -hug- WELL THEN I SHALL COMMENT MOAR!!! Y:< ...tomorrow - u- <3
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lol fun with luminosity~ |DDD Ierno how to make an aurora borealis :C
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lol fun with luminosity~ |DDD Ierno how to make an aurora borealis :C
Perynne
@Death by an Arrow: Oooh, the bear is looking very cute. I think that shade of blue is good for it, because as you pointed out, the background will have blue hues and it would reflect on the bear. What you could also do is use the pieces of white paper for highlights, by sprinkling them on the parts that would have the strongest light.
@Marsh: Looks good. Northern lights are really very many shades of colour, but usually mostly green/yellowish, perhaps a little turquoise when they're more blue. The blue you're using looks a little bit too cold (and too blue). Google helps for some good pictures. You could perhaps use some kind of motion blur to get that ribbony-look as well? And I'm not sure if those are clouds in the back, but an aurora doesn't show if there's clouds on top of it. There can be clouds around it, but I think they appear in the upper atmosphere so they'd be hidden if there was a cloud around.
Sorry, being a wee bit nitpicky about it. :P I love auroras, and sometimes see them here during the winter. The long shape you've drawn for it looks good though, so the colour would be the only thing that needs some tweaking. :3
@Marsh: Looks good.
Northern lights are really very many shades of colour, but usually mostly green/yellowish, perhaps a little turquoise when they're more blue. The blue you're using looks a little bit too cold (and too blue). Google helps for some good pictures. You could perhaps use some kind of motion blur to get that ribbony-look as well? And I'm not sure if those are clouds in the back, but an aurora doesn't show if there's clouds on top of it. There can be clouds around it, but I think they appear in the upper atmosphere so they'd be hidden if there was a cloud around.Sorry, being a wee bit nitpicky about it. :P I love auroras, and sometimes see them here during the winter. The long shape you've drawn for it looks good though, so the colour would be the only thing that needs some tweaking. :3