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InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Netherlands

None

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I'm not a fan of cigarette's either, I have never smoked and I never will. But they just fit very well on certain characters.

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastern Magik View Post
@Charlie no (i didn't use reference for the face at all). Ah, just checkin'. The face looks good, even though it resembles Megan Fox who fills me with the hatred of a thousand suns.

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

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People used to think it was good for the lungs.

It still made them smell like an old ashtray, turned their fingers and teeth yellow, deepened wrinkles and gave them emphysema. I cannot separate all that from the cigarette so it looks very unattractive to me, but thats my hang-up :P

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

@Charlie huh, may i ask why do you hate her so much?


@Mina yeah...

@Aero i see everyday what can cigarettes do to a man...


But since this is an art topic and not "cigs good/bad" thread, you can expect new painting sometime tomorrow.

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

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@Raven and Magik: Heh, I'm glad to say I'm not the only guy that doesn't like Megan Fox. The reason I don't like her is because I think she represents a lot of things that are wrong with Hollywood - the main thing needed to make it big is just a pretty face, not actual acting chops.

Not to mention so many girls look up to her as a beauty icon, yet plastic surgery has completely ruined her face. I think that sends a bad message to the younger audience - you're never pretty enough, so inject these chemicals in your face.

Minami

Minami

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2008

Dallas, TX. USA

Not in any guild at the moment

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*high fives Charlie*

Ravenhawk

Ravenhawk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2009

Eon

Me/N

@Charlie - I can't say I disagree with you. I am just surprised hearing it from a guy lol

@Magik - I can't wait to see the finished version. You're gonna post the steampunk girl , right? RIGHHHTT???

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

@Charlie ok, that sounds convincing enough.

@Mina ummm... no.... sorry... i don't know when steampunk girl is going to be finished, soon i suppose...


Anyway, new painting Burning Skies can be seen here



I wanted to ask, did anyone of you guys ever did full collaboration with another artist, and your experience with it?

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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Ooooh, very nice!

And I've done a collab before. We basically just emailed the PSD back and forth, each working on a little bit of it at a time, until we were both happy with the results.

Tommy's

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

Mo/

I once did a collab with Pery. Well, did.. We kind of got halfway, got busy with other stuff and still need to finish it someday Anywho, I think its lots of fun, just do it with someone you feel comfortable with, so you don't need any rules or something. I found it most fun because it triggers your imagination the whole time. Once I started drawing I immediately got an idea in mind, but Pery didn't share that idea, drew something completely different to it, so I needed to think of something else. Great fun

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Netherlands

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I did one with marsh, we got as far as a bit of shading, but then we never finished it.

Ravenhawk

Ravenhawk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2009

Eon

Me/N

Wow..that last drawing looks awesome. The colors of are so pretty.

About a collab. Well I do the coloring part so it's more like once the sketch/pencil part is done, I just take the drawing and color it. Got no problems with collabs thought it was pretty fun to see how my coloring style changes depending on the pencilled/inked drawing.

Here's few that I did so far:
http://roguemina.deviantart.com/gallery/25465989

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

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I love the new pic, I like the way you have sea reflecting the red sky and the spray from teh waves.

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

@Verene thanks. hmm, that sounds like a nice idea, except all of my .psds are 500+mb -_-

@Tommy ah, so its something like an art trade :S completely depending on other artist >_< (and knowing my luck with art trades so far ....)

@IH oh, sorry to hear that.

@Mina mhhm. Its a shame theres no "sketches/lineart for coloring - only" thread in Nolani ;( Loving those paintings (is this one Yas's line art? )

@Aero thank you love...

Unlucky Slayer

Unlucky Slayer

RAGE INCARNATE

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sitting at The Guild Hall 2, being happy.

Nerd Clan [NK]

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500MB? damn... Make use of a dropbox or an ftp server. =)

Olle

Olle

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ign: Miniature Julia

Teh Academy[PhD]

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Your drawings are so beautiful,some of the best ive seen around here!

Im lazy and didnt read through really, would you draw my Diva?
she loves to be a model !

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

@US yes...


@kajusbonus thank you. Unfortunately i've finished my divas set a while ago, and atm im not accepting any requests/commissions, sorry.


@Tomm i meant to say, you still depend on the artist you do collab with, to finish his part of the job. And yes, i know what an art trade is, i did a few, its a pity that only 2 artists bothered to finish their part of trade (out of 5 -_- )

About the file size, i work on very large canvas (minimum 4000x5000 300dpi, but most of the time it goes up to 10000x8000px 300dpi). Its not really the place where to put those psds the issue here, more like , i have to upload that sh*t god knows how many times and my uploading speed equals turtle XD

@IH yeah, its a shame she deactivated her DA



wth? wheres my muse? im totally having an art block right now........................

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

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Join Date: Jan 2007

The Netherlands

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Ohnoes! (psst, draw The Storm!)

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

Ororo?


j/k j/k


you want me to draw while in artblock? ok, gimme references and i'll try (key word "try" :P )

Edit: ah, never mind, forget it... i don't feel like drawing a ninja anymore >:| maybe some other time....

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

sorry for the double post, just wanted to post this value study...



5 min each...

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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5 mins each?! I'm not falling for that.

(The Storm is not a ninja! :O)

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

its true (ok, maybe i spent 10 minutes on the castle, but rest are all 5 minutes max)... they are like 250x250 in size. The goal in each one is to simplify the scene as best as possible to readable 2D shapes. And that way practice use of color and value.

I can't really draw anything long term, because i lose interest too quickly (at least atm >_<) so i'll just paint those little thumbnails and practice to draw these dynamic poses: they look "simple" enough XD


p.s. how come he is not a ninja? aren't all of them ninjas? is he even good O_o ? or he wants to kill Kimi :O ?

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

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Join Date: Jan 2007

The Netherlands

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Nooo ofcourse not! He is a ''shadowic'' figure, noone knows he is or what his background is. But he combines martial arts with science (for electrifying powers), to create his ''Storm'' icon.

(Only the one who wants to draw him gets to know him a little more.)

Drelias Melaku

Drelias Melaku

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Avatar by unsolvedenigma.deviantart

Denizens of the Underdark [Nite]

N/Me

8o
You can accomplish amazing things in 5-10 minutes. I lovelovelove that castle.

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

@IH but, but, why? i want to know D: *pouts*

@Drelias thank you sweetie. unfortunately they aren't really that good ;(

Olle

Olle

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ign: Miniature Julia

Teh Academy[PhD]

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thats the thing about artists and the other people
i, myself , love those sceneries, but you think they are "ok" at best

._.

Tommy's

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kajusbonus
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thats the thing about artists and the other people
i, myself , love those sceneries, but you think they are "ok" at best

._. I think its more about if you made them yourself I never really like my own work funnily enough >.>

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

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Join Date: Jan 2007

The Netherlands

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But criticizen yourself is a good thing, you will improve from it.

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

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Join Date: Sep 2008

well, if i would to love them, then i wouldn't strive to improve them, and i would be stuck on this skill level forever. Ofc, i don't hate them, i just think that i can do better, i think that every artist thinks that way.

Here, let me demonstrate that for ya:



The first one is made in February 2009, second one in November 2009, and the 3rd one few weeks ago. If i got satisfied with the 1st one (even if she actually lacks a belly button XD ), i would stayed on that skill level. And i still see some things on the 3rd one that i would like to improve. So, its not that uncommon to hear an artist bi*ch about his own art XD

Ofc, im not going to complain on compliments/critiques i get, its always nice to see how ppl take the time and look at my art, that makes me quite proud

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Is it a weird thing to shout ''what the f-'' after seeing your improvements in only 2 years. It looks like if I just would start drawing, few years later I will be improved a ton.

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

Yes. You would improve a lot. With hard work anything is possible.

But... "If you want to be the best you have to be ok with sucking at it first..."

(I wanted to link another journal of his, but its not on the list, where he explains how with constant practice you can get great concept artist with only 3 years of training...)

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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When I try to draw, and something looks not right. I want to change it instantly. So I take ages to finish even the lineart. And when I start coloring, and look at good artists' work, I get dissapointed and quit.

Ravenhawk

Ravenhawk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2009

Eon

Me/N

Yeah I'm with you about self criticizing though, unlike Magik, I think I've hit a huge roadblock I can't overcome atm. I can't put a finger on it yet. It's frustrating >_<

Drelias Melaku

Drelias Melaku

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Avatar by unsolvedenigma.deviantart

Denizens of the Underdark [Nite]

N/Me

That's a pretty good point, Magik - I have seen a couple people make that mistake. That's not to say they were bad, but they stopped trying to improve.
As good as those first two pictures are, the third shows a vast improvement.

I have the same trouble as IH. I take FOREVER to draw something because I keep changing and changing it until I get so frustrated that I just give up.

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

@IH and why don't you ask those good artists how many times did they failed before they became amazing? Everyone is bad at first try. But only ones who are persistent at what they do can become better. If you quit every time something goes wrong (and it will go wrong like 99% of the time) you'll never get better. Like everything in life not just in art. And im sorry if i may seem a little harsh... I almost quit drawing last year, when one (good) artist on DA told me how much my art is boring. And you know what, at that time i was hurt, but the worst part of all is, now i know what she meant, and she was damn right. Ofc everything would be much better if i had a time machine, hop into in and came one year later to see that i got DD on that very same DA :O.

@Mina try drawing something else, that always works out in my case. When i got tired of drawing girls, i switch to landscapes/ still life.


@Drelias We all get frustrated about art, so just go out and do something
else, and come back the next day when you feel better and try again

Drelias Melaku

Drelias Melaku

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Avatar by unsolvedenigma.deviantart

Denizens of the Underdark [Nite]

N/Me

That's good advice - I've noticed that when I come back to something later, it's a lot easier to get going on it again. For some reason, though, I never do revisit them.
I actually have a few that I liked, but I just got stuck, so I should go back to those, change what I didn't like, and at least finish the lines. Maybe actually finishing a drawing for the first time in ages will help.

Eastern Magik

Eastern Magik

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Join Date: Sep 2008

just go easy on yourself (and ofc post in here, or on DA, i want to see it )



speaking of unfinished paintings, heres one of mine (1h 30min)




don't feel like finishing it...