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Originally Posted by Hell Darkblight
I cleared wastes and chamber then i bailed cause i had to go to work. Tell me , how are the old friends mindblades? What do you use against them?
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24 hours with full hero parties... how's it going?
Sharkinu
Boogz
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Originally Posted by MYSTAKE
5 years nerfing gw and now this? the game is ridicolously easy now
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I'm loving 7heroes party, I've finally be able to run my orders/scythe abuse build, and vanquishing has been made fun
the game is awesome now imo, just don't hope for improved AI for more difficult, too much of an effort since GW2 is coming back and GW will be a wasteland
Missing HB
This update just made me realize how hard DoA is with no consets ( even in NM ) and how easy it is with consets ( even in HM).. They should be forbidden tbh , it makes the area not challenging at all.....
Apart of that , i kinda complete all easily with 3 earth eles aoe spam + 2 MM/rit healer + me warrior + 1 paragon
Apart of that , i kinda complete all easily with 3 earth eles aoe spam + 2 MM/rit healer + me warrior + 1 paragon
Hells Fury
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Originally Posted by Sharkinu
Mindblades are not that hard, Panic mesmer did a good job keeping them busy. I used sabway heroes, 2 spirits pammers, panic gwen and earthshaker. I cleared all(including quests) in: vale,mountains, labyrinth, and plains. I got bored at plains and started 4H quest even that I knew i'm gonna fail it.
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the Puppeteer
3 necro,2 rit,2 mes steam rolling... HM is easy mode now
Wrath of m0o
For everyone who said no to 7 hero parties..This one's for you <3
Now can we reopen the "A discussion on 7 heros" thread.
I havent found a need for the mercinaries yet, this update is Epic.
I will most likely wait a few months in the hopes of a half off sale..then cash my chips in.
Now can we reopen the "A discussion on 7 heros" thread.
I havent found a need for the mercinaries yet, this update is Epic.
I will most likely wait a few months in the hopes of a half off sale..then cash my chips in.
Vilaptca
Finally got Eternal Grove HM masters with 7 heroes. And there was nothing difficult about it.
thelessa
I love the 7 heros! Also I bought the 8 merc. pack. I don't have enough gold at this time to outfit them all (mercs) on all my chars., but just having them on my main is very cool! I finished vanquishing Factions yesterday with them 
Riot Narita
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Originally Posted by the Puppeteer
3 necro,2 rit,2 mes steam rolling... HM is easy mode now
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HM was ALWAYS easy... if you played with other people.
Just one friend or guild-mate was enough.
But apparently GW is a single-player game now :-P
And yeah, I'm as guilty as anyone - hardly any guildies or friends still playing, I don't want a new guild (old guild will be revived for GW2)... and I just CBA with PuGs these days. It's just sad, when you think back to the glory days...
Lasai
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Originally Posted by Riot Narita
It's just sad, when you think back to the glory days...
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The "glory days" are usually nothing more than everyone being relatively new, relatively the same level and progress, and concentrated in a single original game TBH. Rose colored glasses of nostalgia generally paint it as better than it was.
Planes of Power/CU/Desert of Flames/Burning Crusade/Mines of Moria etc etc all "destroyed and ruined" their respective games, and yet, they still all chug along somehow.. EQ will be 12years soon I think.
Not dissing you.. just making an observation.
Xiaquin
Finally have builds to a comfortable point, though Razah has a problem using Spirit Siphon. Other than that my biggest complaint was fixing up a dervish that would actually use skills. I had to dumb it down a bit for the bad AI so that leaves some to be desired.
Early testing looks ok and it uses no extreme gimmicks. It doesn't use monks, hybrid necros, spirit armies SY! or dedicated healing, either. I'm sure it would fail in really hard places but I'm hoping it can at least vanquish.
Once I get bored I'm considering an adrenaline-junkie team using Infuriating Heat.
Early testing looks ok and it uses no extreme gimmicks. It doesn't use monks, hybrid necros, spirit armies SY! or dedicated healing, either. I'm sure it would fail in really hard places but I'm hoping it can at least vanquish.
Once I get bored I'm considering an adrenaline-junkie team using Infuriating Heat.
BlackSephir
Pretty neat, finally doing stuff with a competent team at MY leisure.
Do a part of an area.
Alt+tab, eat, watch a show, go back to gw, do other part, alt+tab, laugh at sony failing miserably at suing EVERYONE, back to gw, finish the area.
Do a part of an area.
Alt+tab, eat, watch a show, go back to gw, do other part, alt+tab, laugh at sony failing miserably at suing EVERYONE, back to gw, finish the area.
Ghost Dog
I'm trying to justify it by running balanced. Balanced works very well too.
c0c0c0
I'm thrilled to freakin' death, TBH. I've got a family, so teaming up with humans is always dicey - never know when I have to run downstairs and apply a band-aid or give moral support to my sig-other. On top of that, there are simply too many jerks playing this game for me to bother with pugs. There are plenty of good folks, too, but one bad encounter turns me off of humans for a pretty good while.
So, I'm always H/H'ing this game, and henchmen stink (stank?). This from a person who henched T'head keep back when there were no heros, and used a couple under-powered henchmen a just couple weeks ago in WiK. I can use them if I have to, but I won't miss them one little bit now that I don't.
Think I'm going to finally see if I can get a Rotwing Bow.
So, I'm always H/H'ing this game, and henchmen stink (stank?). This from a person who henched T'head keep back when there were no heros, and used a couple under-powered henchmen a just couple weeks ago in WiK. I can use them if I have to, but I won't miss them one little bit now that I don't.
Think I'm going to finally see if I can get a Rotwing Bow.
Raven Wing
My reaction on the new build was to use Embark to find a pug for the new Z vanquish.
THen I realised i had the option of earning survivor title on top of the load I already have.
So now im soloing wurms to get that. Not the fastest but quite safe.
Of course Il will try to see if i can beat fow or something with 7 bheroes. But I never asked for 7 heroes, its like 10th place on my priority list. These new changes are for sure great, but we didnt get my #1 desire: A auction house or some other way to improve trading. All this stuff worth less 20k, I get it all the time. I merch it all the time.
Cant be bothered. Its clogging up my storage.
Using 7 heroes would just give me more of this crap. (moving and killing faster and then split wityh heroes compared to true solo)
So 7 heroes is nice but not what i desired.
THen I realised i had the option of earning survivor title on top of the load I already have.
So now im soloing wurms to get that. Not the fastest but quite safe.
Of course Il will try to see if i can beat fow or something with 7 bheroes. But I never asked for 7 heroes, its like 10th place on my priority list. These new changes are for sure great, but we didnt get my #1 desire: A auction house or some other way to improve trading. All this stuff worth less 20k, I get it all the time. I merch it all the time.
Cant be bothered. Its clogging up my storage.
Using 7 heroes would just give me more of this crap. (moving and killing faster and then split wityh heroes compared to true solo)
So 7 heroes is nice but not what i desired.
Markaedw
To me the need for 7 heroes is realy a failure of the devs. They just couldn't create a decent build. It's been more that 5 years and Alesia still tries to touch heal and gets herself killed. None of my hero monks use any sort of healing touch.
Mesmers Are Bad
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To me the need for 7 heroes is realy a failure of the devs. They just couldn't create a decent build. It's been more that 5 years and Alesia still tries to touch heal and gets herself killed. None of my hero monks use any sort of healing touch.
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majoho
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It's going rather well, actually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e9p7if7j8Y Always had a lot of trouble with the Shiro fight until now. It's also prompted me to finally get off my duff and finish some dungeons. |
Improvavel
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There wasn't a need, there was a want.
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Crom The Pale
Funny. I just did a vanquish of The Scar in prophcies. Got to the highest point where the last group of griphons were waiting for me. After killing them I looked around and remembered that I had been here once before. 5 years ago in fact. At that time I was with a friend, just the two of us and hench cleared the entire map searching for clues to the mysterious Hall of Hero's...
How things have changed and yet how much they are still the same. I rarely every did full live teams and cleared most every mission with at least one hench, often our only monk(s).
I did a Zaishen mission with a guildie today then vanquished with heroes, not much really has changed in my game play in over 70 months of playing.
How things have changed and yet how much they are still the same. I rarely every did full live teams and cleared most every mission with at least one hench, often our only monk(s).
I did a Zaishen mission with a guildie today then vanquished with heroes, not much really has changed in my game play in over 70 months of playing.
Miteshu
As a noob.
I can't find any builds that lets me make this game easy. I wish people would update PvX.
I can't find any builds that lets me make this game easy. I wish people would update PvX.
Sir Mad
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Originally Posted by AndrewSX
QFT.It's be best way for Anet to (try) mantain alive the game, after 6year and large part of players got everything.
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But yeah, it's going pretty well with 7 heroes...
Zerg power!
That reminds me the old days in the tombs B/P teams, when MMs were not limited to 10 minions.
Xiaquin
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As a noob.
I can't find any builds that lets me make this game easy. I wish people would update PvX. |
We have a lot of friendly and knowledgeable people in the ranger forum that could nudge you in the right direction, but there is a heroes subforum as well.
Qing Guang
Well it's the end of day two. I got one remnant from Shadow Nexus (7hero having finally provided the impetus for me to unlock Razah and get the skills necessary for Spiritway), vanq'ed Mount Qinkai (which got me enough Luxon faction to move forward on the Luxon side of the plot) and then finished off the last 5 mishes I needed for Protector of Cantha. I'm actually beginning to consider that I might go for Vanquisher, since clearing one zone is no longer a 3-hour, 4-guildie endeavor (MQ was obscenely easy... I was the party's only death when I dash-RtL'ed into an Island Guardian with my healers trailing too far behind me).
I did have some concern when I realized that if one of my guildies were to ask to join me, I would have trouble figuring out how to fit them in my build...
So what have you all accomplished?
I did have some concern when I realized that if one of my guildies were to ask to join me, I would have trouble figuring out how to fit them in my build...
So what have you all accomplished?
TheGizzy
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So what have you all accomplished?
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But, I have done each of the new ZV's. I just finished Factions last week, and I had one mission I needed masters on (Tahnnaka Temple - that's been sitting on my shoulder poking me in the ear for a while LOL) and the Kurzick mission, Eternal Grove, to complete. I've done both, with masters, using just my heroes - only had to do them each once. Hooray! So I not only finished filling my Shiro's Return book which gave me a nice 40k boost to my Kurzick track (Luxon is already r4), but I got my Cantha title as well. Now to do it all again in HM!
I also did the first couple of quests in FoW, just to see if I could. Had no trouble with them - though I was a bit miffed I didn't get a single shard drop. LOL
My team build really isn't much different than what I'd run when partied up with the couple of people I usually play with. I have found that being able to take both Gwen & Norgu (Panic & PsyIn) is rather handy, as is having both Dunky & Tahlkora (RoJ & - I think - Healing Burst). Then I've got Olias as an MM, Razah as an Explosive Growth bomber, Xandra with SoGM and me with an SoS variation I'm comfortable with.
I wouldn't say we're necessarily just rolling through everything, but I do feel as if there's very little we couldn't get through with a bit of tweaking and experimentation - neither of which I'm afraid of.
So yeah, me likey!
Lasai
Well today I found an added benefit.. helping a friend who hadn't geared or runed many heroes up I was able to add 6 of my fully equipped ones to our group. This is going to be a nice way to group with newer players who haven't yet acquired full hero sets, skills and gear.
Also had fun doing Battle for LA with me on War and my friend Derv. Used a resto Razah, SoS Xandra, panic Gwen and MBomb/rit necro. No probs, was a lot of fun.
Also had fun doing Battle for LA with me on War and my friend Derv. Used a resto Razah, SoS Xandra, panic Gwen and MBomb/rit necro. No probs, was a lot of fun.
mr monk rupsie
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I'm curious to know how others are enjoying (or not LOL) the game play using the full hero parties?
Cool, i have to admit its a breeze in non-eye of the north districts. In Eye of the North itself its a must to bring shelter!
Have you tried any team builds you have found particularly useful?
Standard balanced build (mesmers + necroes) for now
Do you feel like you'll continue using the full hero parties instead of H/H even after the novelty has worn off?
Of course, they are way more customizable then henchmen.
Have you discovered any interesting combinations you wouldn't have previously considered?
Durr mostly standard combinations, conjure warriors + mark of rodgort/ splinter weapon + strength and honor, dervish healers/dmg dealers + a few minion masters (the enchantments removals in combination with avatar of dwayna gives incredible party heal. For the rest i will try to create non-standard builds (out of the box builds).
What sort of places have you tried out the full hero party - and were those attempts successful or failures of epic proportions?
Zaishen vanquish area's, they tend to work fine.
What are you enjoying most about having 7 heroes?
Build wars!!!!! You can now make 1 of the most crazy synergy team configurations no one every imagined.
And most importantly... have you gone broke trying to outfit them yet?
most are upgraded before the update. I think the people who just run sabway/discord way are buying upgrades for their heroes.
I'm curious to know how others are enjoying (or not LOL) the game play using the full hero parties?
Cool, i have to admit its a breeze in non-eye of the north districts. In Eye of the North itself its a must to bring shelter!
Have you tried any team builds you have found particularly useful?
Standard balanced build (mesmers + necroes) for now
Do you feel like you'll continue using the full hero parties instead of H/H even after the novelty has worn off?
Of course, they are way more customizable then henchmen.
Have you discovered any interesting combinations you wouldn't have previously considered?
Durr mostly standard combinations, conjure warriors + mark of rodgort/ splinter weapon + strength and honor, dervish healers/dmg dealers + a few minion masters (the enchantments removals in combination with avatar of dwayna gives incredible party heal. For the rest i will try to create non-standard builds (out of the box builds).
What sort of places have you tried out the full hero party - and were those attempts successful or failures of epic proportions?
Zaishen vanquish area's, they tend to work fine.
What are you enjoying most about having 7 heroes?
Build wars!!!!! You can now make 1 of the most crazy synergy team configurations no one every imagined.
And most importantly... have you gone broke trying to outfit them yet?
most are upgraded before the update. I think the people who just run sabway/discord way are buying upgrades for their heroes.
mage767
Using this currently:
2x pro derv frontline, grenth (wind+scythe+myst), dwayna (earth+scythe+myst)
1x standard MM build w/some resto heals
1x non-standard reaper Mop
1x standard panic
1x standard ST rit
1x non-standard UA w/heals
1x your character, run anything you want...
2x pro derv frontline, grenth (wind+scythe+myst), dwayna (earth+scythe+myst)
1x standard MM build w/some resto heals
1x non-standard reaper Mop
1x standard panic
1x standard ST rit
1x non-standard UA w/heals
1x your character, run anything you want...
shambolica
I'm loving it Was always a lone wolf anyway so, for me, it's a great boon - The Lone Wolf's Boon.
Yesterday spent most of the day on GW and was seriously fried at the end of it - logged off and watched half of "Inception" then went to bed. I did the right thing, don't want to be one of these guys that games for three solid days and then dies.
Just tried out a normal mode DoA. Started at City and that went fine, then kept going and did veil and gloom. Got my damn ass into Foundry but failed in the 3rd room.
Haven't yet bought the Merc pack but know I will, even though I can't justify it. I find the normal heroes are enough for me. It's like being a kid in a sweet shop - really impressed with this update.
For me, my goals now are (all NM for now): Underworld, at least getting to Dhuum (never done that) and trying someway to beat Foundry - maybe a Soul Twisting, explosive growth MM rit (ppl might "lol" at an MM in foundry but I'm an MM nut and usually like to have one in the mix - as long as he does something else as well it's not a complete waste) - good thread on here about hero builds incorporating ST.
I'll try a FoW in a while, just for the hell of it.
Was always a lone wolf anyway so, for me, it's a great boon - The Lone Wolf's Boon.Yesterday spent most of the day on GW and was seriously fried at the end of it - logged off and watched half of "Inception" then went to bed. I did the right thing, don't want to be one of these guys that games for three solid days and then dies.
Just tried out a normal mode DoA. Started at City and that went fine, then kept going and did veil and gloom. Got my damn ass into Foundry but failed in the 3rd room.
Haven't yet bought the Merc pack but know I will, even though I can't justify it. I find the normal heroes are enough for me. It's like being a kid in a sweet shop - really impressed with this update.
For me, my goals now are (all NM for now): Underworld, at least getting to Dhuum (never done that) and trying someway to beat Foundry - maybe a Soul Twisting, explosive growth MM rit (ppl might "lol" at an MM in foundry but I'm an MM nut and usually like to have one in the mix - as long as he does something else as well it's not a complete waste) - good thread on here about hero builds incorporating ST.
I'll try a FoW in a while, just for the hell of it.
Ascended Furling
I have not done much with 7 heroes. But i have done some test runs with 7 heroes and some new mercenaries. I love it. But most of the time i play with 3 other guildies but i like that i have control over the skills my heroes have.
Yol
I'm very happy with the 7 hero update. Whereas I have no problem pugging for zmissions (I like the company), and have three leg.vanquishers (all H/H before this update), UW and FoW have only rarely been accessible. Last night I completed FoW on my rit (getting r1 survivor with it) with a hero team, and it was great......took me two hours, but I was able to go afk during it, and could pause to enjoy the scenery when I wanted without worrying about annoying other players. Next I'll venture into the UW.
I'll still go with pugs when the mood takes me, but I'm happy that this update has opened up parts of the game to me that have had limited accessibility before.
I'll still go with pugs when the mood takes me, but I'm happy that this update has opened up parts of the game to me that have had limited accessibility before.
the Puppeteer
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I find posts like this kind of sad.
HM was ALWAYS easy... if you played with other people. Just one friend or guild-mate was enough. But apparently GW is a single-player game now :-P And yeah, I'm as guilty as anyone - hardly any guildies or friends still playing, I don't want a new guild (old guild will be revived for GW2)... and I just CBA with PuGs these days. It's just sad, when you think back to the glory days... |
Miteshu
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I see you're a ranger.
We have a lot of friendly and knowledgeable people in the ranger forum that could nudge you in the right direction, but there is a heroes subforum as well. |
Xiaquin
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And yeah, I'm as guilty as anyone - hardly any guildies or friends still playing, I don't want a new guild (old guild will be revived for GW2)... and I just CBA with PuGs these days. It's just sad, when you think back to the glory days...
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I'd wager fewer people would be playing today if non-ideal henchmen remained the only party filler. Prophecies was a nightmare with randoms, and without an active guild it was the only way to get through it. My friend would have hated it if I coerced her to play then, but a few years later she went on her own to buy Nightfall; she was quickly hooked.
The "glory" is different depending on who you ask.
Personally I've never had this much fun with the game as it is today.
June Bug
With the 7 hero update I've been more motivated to do VQ. And with the new ZVQ bounties, it's even greater. For now, that's one of the things I've seen as the more positive points of this update.
Damian Greenthumb
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Thanks, I searched around, tested a few, but I can't find GW easy as the people in the forum still say.
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On Topic: Love 7 Heros. VQ without pulling my hair out.
Using 3Nec, 2 Rit, Gwen and Ele.
Daesu
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Most who are saying GW is too easy now have been playing for a number of years. The basic and involved stratagies are now simple. With the adding of 7 Hero Parties it has increased the KABOOM power ingame.
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The problem with most people is that they have not pitted their 7-heroes against the toughest areas of the game (i.e. HM elite areas), that is why they are saying PvE is easy. Since I am spending most of my time in the elite areas, having already beaten the game in all campaigns a long time ago, PvE is still not that easy.
Wish Swiftdeath
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I have been using 6 heroes and 2 accounts for a long time, so been there done that.
The problem with most people is that they have not pitted their 7-heroes against the toughest areas of the game (i.e. HM elite areas), that is why they are saying PvE is easy. Since I am spending most of my time in the elite areas, having already beaten the game in all campaigns a long time ago, PvE is still not that easy. |
I'd like to see people get through some of the elite missions 'without getting below 50% ever'
Lest121
17/33 on the Cantha VQ....since the update...7heroes rock.
Verene
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17/33 on the Cantha VQ....since the update...7heroes rock.
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I think I've vanquished...nine or ten areas since the update? Half Tyria, half Cantha (Elona's already over and done with). I suppose if I didn't spend the day dealing with kids looking for Pokemon, I could have done more, but meh
Seriously, between the Dervish update and 7 heroes, I'm just having a blast flying through things...it's great.