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turbo234

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

WI

Mo/

11 Mar 2011 at 08:28 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristlebane

Instead of a new hardmode .. how about a new "Defend Ascalon" challenge mission .. for up to 3 parties with 4 players in each. Waves of Charr will attack the Ascalonian forces, starting with weaker foes and increasing the level for each wave

nazi zombies guild wars style? but i actually would be all for this if there aren't any drops/experience. Make it neverending mobs and people will farm the hell out of it.

Bristlebane

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

11 Mar 2011 at 09:25 - 42

Agree on the no-loot/experience.
Well some kind of reward would be nice but nothing farmable.

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

11 Mar 2011 at 09:53 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo234

nazi zombies

no way i want charr zombies

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

11 Mar 2011 at 11:56 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verene

...you know you don't have to go out with seven heroes, right?
If you think it's too easy with that, then don't use it.

^ also go uw with heroes or smth there is never gonna be a nightmare mode face it...

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

11 Mar 2011 at 12:27 - 45

New mode: Ultimate Hard Mode
Enemies: All lvl 40+

You & friends/pugs: All must be gods (GWAMM)
Missions timed, zero cons, team wipe = map back to town.

LMAO.

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Above or GW2? I will take GW2 anyday!

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

11 Mar 2011 at 13:08 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

I suggested Nightmare Mode 4 years ago:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10224643

I even did a new icon for the mode

nice!

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

11 Mar 2011 at 14:53 - 47

DoA \ UW NM and HM with heroes, theres your very hard mode. Or you have the challenge missions.

Once you've completed those feel free to whine a little more.

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

IN my pocket plane. Obviously!

Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

11 Mar 2011 at 15:31 - 48

Can't help but smile that they gave us HM, then buffed everything, then people start to want HM2.0...

Interesting

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

11 Mar 2011 at 16:46 - 49

Lets just face it.. Making the game "harder" changes NOTHING!

Increase NPC attack speed, empathy and SS gets a boost.

Increase NPC energy gain, changes nothing.

Increase NPC damage, soul twisting rit and ER bonders become the metagame along with PI as staple on every human bar.

Increase NPC HP, just slows it down, changes nothing.

Increase amount of mobs, higher AoE focus.

If you really want to make the game harder it's not that hard, instead of doing the groups 1 by 1 you start chaining them. You start beeing on the move all the time and before one group is dead you start the next.

Or as I said earlier you have DoA \ UW in NM and HM with heroes, or for that sake ToPK HM. Just stop beeing a chicken and challenge yourself!

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger

And most importaintly, NCSOFT wont do this! Why? Because they just intentionally made the game way easier in order for people to complete it and move on to GW2!

Oh yeah, and Nazi Charr Zombeez im all for!

Saru The Boss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2010

Texas

We Gat Dis [HRUU]

A/

12 Mar 2011 at 08:39 - 50

Nazi... Err... Charr Zombies... That would be cool.

Bristlebane

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

12 Mar 2011 at 15:55 - 51

Ultimate Hard Mode.
When you die.. your character is permanently dead and can never be resurrected. All you can do is delete and recreate the character and go again.

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

12 Mar 2011 at 17:04 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristlebane

Ultimate Hard Mode.
When you die.. your character is permanently dead and can never be resurrected. All you can do is delete and recreate the character and go again.

I would call that Martyr Mode....instead

Miteshu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2011

R/D

12 Mar 2011 at 19:55 - 53

Only if there is no titles, no gears, no anything that goes along with it.

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

12 Mar 2011 at 20:22 - 54

OP sounds like troll bait all the way. For starters how about Elite Mode instead of ultimate hard mode. I would support it if it didnt give any more titles, all the professions were balanced and it offered new skins and rare loot. Otherwise...

/notsigned

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

12 Mar 2011 at 22:57 - 55

it can be done easily
just try with starter armor and weapons, then without any kind of upgrade (rune,insignia and weapon upgrades) no pvx, no elite skills and just hench, then try NM, and once NM is hard(if it still isnt, just go on with trying the impossible), you keep on trying until its too easy, then go same on HM and do all dungeons and vqs with the same, so no heroes (as for NF, just take the hero which is required for the missions, and give em the same build as the same prof hench has)

i hope people realize that when they(Anet) nerf stuff or make the game all harder, that it'll hurt the whole community, and people leave once again, and that way they can get much more money

face it, the game is all about fun now, and i'm very happy with it, you also can make your own challenges, so nothing can be too easy if you dont want it to be easy

please reconsider and try stuff that will make you happier than make changes to the game which hurts Anet's wallets and the community (and probably the people joining GW2... or NOT joining cuz of these weird ideas)

try it, i can do stuff which make me happy, anyone here can, i'm sure of it

Red Apple

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

[DuDe]

Mo/

12 Mar 2011 at 23:24 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanleyhkw

Hard mode isn't hard any more with 7 heroes update.

Dont use them, problem solved.

Also, I suggest that if you are tired of "the easy stuff" and want a real challenge try Guild Battles and HA. That will suffice.

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

13 Mar 2011 at 01:02 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

no pvx

that would be pretty awesome lol, vqing with 7 heroes and not a single bar that exists on pvx.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

13 Mar 2011 at 12:31 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabs88

that would be pretty awesome lol, vqing with 7 heroes and not a single bar that exists on pvx.

at least dont copy em then, explained better?

but yea, it is something done only by a handful of people, as i always hear discord,spiritspam,SF sins and AP builds

anyway, i'd say: make your own challenges until you have done em all
i just dont get why people want Anet to make the game harder for everyone, only cuz some people are bored cuz they done everything (which is probably the reason why they want the game harder... cuz those people have done everything by now)

so many options they gave us, yet some dont like it and want to change the game so much o_O

ps. think about why anet does it this way, and gave us more like zaishen vq, embark and 7 hero teams, its cuz most people want it, instead of having a harder game
and yes, people ay it all the time: dont use it if its bad to you

Miteshu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2011

R/D

17 Mar 2011 at 21:15 - 59

For Nightmare Mode,

It should be a mode where you CANNOT bring heroes at all. If you did, the chances of survival is low.

Here is the mode-
-All melee foes can removes Enchantment by attacking. But by removing the enchantment this way blocks the attack. (This makes protter useless.)
-All melee foes can do triple damage.
-All nuker foes can do double damage
-Armor bonus is capped completely at 50 armor.
-All foes will have extra health and extra armor.
-Foes ranged attacks(Bow and spear) will cause dazed and blind.
-All characters will do half damage in AoE.

Protters(Using the skill protective spirit) will no longer be a damage mitigation.
Offensive mitigation, such as cripple, and blindness will be very useful.
You can no longer stand around pressing 1-1-1-1 till the enemy dies.
Due to triple damage, Defy Pain tankers will be useless.

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

18 Mar 2011 at 10:20 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miteshu

-All melee foes can removes Enchantment by attacking. But by removing the enchantment this way blocks the attack. (This makes protter useless.)
-All melee foes can do triple damage.
-All nuker foes can do double damage
-Armor bonus is capped completely at 50 armor.

Soul Twisting Ritualist.

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

P/

18 Mar 2011 at 21:54 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristlebane

Instead of a new hardmode .. how about a new "Defend Ascalon" challenge mission .. for up to 3 parties with 4 players in each. Waves of Charr will attack the Ascalonian forces, starting with weaker foes and increasing the level for each wave.

You can chose to stay at the gates for more easy kills (and less rewards) as the ascalonians replenish their forces, or you can push your team deeper behind charr lines and kill much more tough foes. Expect traps, enchantment removals to remove Shadow Forms etc to avoid it becoming a solo farm mission.

Want a preview how it would look like? Go to pre-sear near Rurik and look over the wall at vanguards and charrs fighting. Wouldn't you be able to jump down and take part of it?

I stopped playing in Summer of 2005 for a year and a half exactly because we DID NOT do that!

yum

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/E

19 Mar 2011 at 07:22 - 62

Just improve the AI. Anything in HM can kill an unprotected player less than 5 s. It is absurd for us to even beat anything HM in the first place.

Improve their positioning (it is wtfomfgsofking bad atm- give them more space and movement) and field awareness, skill usage priority, rupt priority, switching target, kiting (hah beat that) and rounding up players. And if they cannot win, just do what players do: retreat.

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

19 Mar 2011 at 07:42 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steps_Descending

Can't help but smile that they gave us HM, then buffed everything, then people start to want HM2.0...

Interesting

Hell, it would be ok if they buffed everything slightly. The problem was that instead of buffing 100% of the skills by 10-15% they went and buffed 5% of the skills by 100-200%. So winning HM is as easy as taking the skills that turn it back into easy mode instead of really requiring a balanced build.

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

19 Mar 2011 at 08:50 - 64

The problem isn't the heroes, its the pve/pvp split. I'd rather a mode where we use the pvp version of skills + no pve only skills/cons.

Miteshu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2011

R/D

19 Mar 2011 at 12:15 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swingline

Soul Twisting Ritualist.

Doesn't matter if it is a player. If the ST Rit is a hero, you'll have to micro them anyways due to nukes and melee damage.