Most Efficient way to earn money in gw

floor

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So im wondering what peoples opinion is on the best way to earn money in guild wars??

Being able to farm an area 55 times per day because you have no job also does not make something efficient.

From my own point of view, gvg is the fastest way to get rich. I personally earn 750+ zaishen keys every month, playing no more than about 3-4 hours per day. (its also besides the point but its pretty fun and does not involve grinding ;P)

what do you think is the easiest and least time consuming way to get rich?

Coast

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doa sc(3h a day with slow runs that take 1hour) nets about the same as ur gvg every month, if i was u i would just keep gvging.

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Originally Posted by floor View Post
So im wondering what peoples opinion is on the best way to earn money in guild wars??

Being able to farm an area 55 times per day because you have no job also does not make something efficient.

From my own point of view, gvg is the fastest way to get rich. I personally earn 750+ zaishen keys every month, playing no more than about 3-4 hours per day. (its also besides the point but its pretty fun and does not involve grinding ;P)

what do you think is the easiest and least time consuming way to get rich?
That's cuz you're top tier, floor

But yeah, if you can get friends, and are dedicated enough, GvG is definitely the easiest way to earn money.

Snowball tournaments come in 2nd place Anyone can play, and just by participating you can get zkeys. Also, snowball tourneys are EVERY day during the holidays, so you can get stacks of zkeys. I only played like every other day and ended up with 5 stacks of zkeys.

I say DoA speedclear and ecto farming (whatever method you prefer) then come in 3rd.

Missing HB

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If i was you , i would just keep GvG'ing since it's probably the best to link fun and reward. Eventually , although it can be a bit less fun , you can just play HA on quest day( just run primal rage , grab unranked sfers( at least those will listen) and blahks + tutella , you easily win first 3 maps ( if you get them..))...

Among PvE , upon all i did recently , i think DoA is the best since at least you know you will get " many " gemstones from chests. I wouldn't recommend ecto farming since it's really only pure luck and end chest isn't that fine....

IronSheik

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I have everything I need so I quit doing SC's and runs and HA and Gvgs and what not.

now I just ID everything I pick up and sell em for daily expenses.

Mokeiro

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powertrading.

Explanation:

Find a casual player who don't know their r8 divine favor Celestial compass cost a lot and buy for 5k

Find a casual player who don't know your r9 sword is quite common and sell it for 50k

PROFIT!!!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokeiro View Post
powertrading.

Explanation:

Find a casual player who don't know their r8 divine favor Celestial compass cost a lot and buy for 5k

Find a casual player who don't know your r9 sword is quite common and sell it for 50k

PROFIT!!!
Trolling...

you're doing it wrong

NerfHerder

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First, find something that you can run and/or farm. In the case of the OP it was GvG. Then farm until you have a amassed a pretty nest egg. This method, like almost all methods, does take alot of grinding at first.

Second, start power trading. Which means buy items at the lowest possible price and sell them to noobs at spamaden for the highest possible price. And thank Anet that they dont have an Auction House to help regulate prices. Its just like working on wall street! Once you get started, its easy fast cash.

Dzjudz

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Scamming. owait it's called powertrading.

AlsPals

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The people have spoken....powertrading. Sometimes its not as easy to get the good stuff, but if you can build a nest egg of 200e(500 is recommended) then money makes itself, and you can just keep playing and trade sparingly. On the other hand, power trading these days takes too much time if you dont have rare minis, q7/q8 shiz, or mass amounts of consumables.

LifeInfusion

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nooo don't PvE, floor!

You've got it made if you have reliable source of 750+ z-keys a month (4,875k/month @6.5K per Z-key). That's about 54K an hour, so the only thing more is probably DoA, which is boring.

cataphract

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I had no idea making that much money in gvg was possible. Interesting.

LifeInfusion

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I had no idea making that much money in gvg was possible. Interesting.
That's only in top tier. [afk] was in semi-finals

EDIT: see http://www.gw-memorial.net/nav/r_mat_i.php?id=47

cataphract

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Serve me well for not following what's happening in pvp. I had no idea what [afk] is or does.

chessyang

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Originally Posted by floor View Post
...... to get rich?
just play the game and find your niche.. pvp, SC, running ppl, Farming, trading... etc... all leads to the same goal. Being "rich"

SC & running ppl got me "rich" and i guess the OP got "rich" buy doing PVP... but really IMO being "rich" is pointless. oh well.... just my 2 cents.

Urcscumug

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I have to agree, once you've put max armor and a set of runes on all your chars there's not much I (personally) want. Runes and weapons for the heros I can get from drops, and I have a bunch of monastery credits/battle commendations/imperial whatnot that I use for kits. The only extra cash I find myself needing is for skills (from trader, tomes, Signet of Capture). But that also accumulates naturally from quests rewards and selling mats and drops. It's not much, some people may even laugh at the measly 10-20k I have... but seriously, what more do you need?

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AlsPals

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Its not a matter of if you need the money, its simply do you want it. There are alot of legacy rares I want that are gonna cost me oodles of noodles. How to get them, you say? Get rich or hope for a 1 in 1,000,000+ chance or more of it dropping, if it even drops anymore.

DoopDoop

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I've had around 10 years experience in generating revenue in MMO industry and I analyze game economies with a much higher level of sophistication because it's basically my job. It's a pretty unique job, so it's a niche, so I make a lot of money doing it. I was a frequent business partner of Rusty/Russell I'm not sure if anybody even knows him anymore or whether he's still active in GW but basically we made a lot of money [he is a brilliant businessman, or hustling as he calls it] playing the Guild Wars economy and even then the greatest contribution to money was using real world business mechanics to capitalize on in game business opportunities.

The most efficient way to make MMO money, is to make the money outside of MMO. That's all I'm saying about that topic because I hold GWG's rules in the utmost and highest respect even more than the life of my own mother.

The only other way to make a lot of money in MMO is if you are the top elite of the game pop and control a rare resource or get paid dividends use of a virtual place you [or more probably, your guild] owns. Usually those resources grant more power to players so end game crafting, currency to utilize a game mechanic that changes the game world drastically, etc. So basically, supply and demand of a rare commodity. In more player controlled economies like EVE and Entropia this gets really, really interesting. There have even been cases of white collar crime involved, that's how awesome and serious it gets. So for the OP, ceiling, he is probably in the top % of the competitors and has access to the prize pool. Tournament structures obviously reward in a very exponential manner, 3rd place gets 10% 1st place gets much more, and so forth.

Hope this helps!

Plutoman

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Originally Posted by Urcscumug View Post
I have to agree, once you've put max armor and a set of runes on all your chars there's not much I (personally) want. Runes and weapons for the heros I can get from drops, and I have a bunch of monastery credits/battle commendations/imperial whatnot that I use for kits. The only extra cash I find myself needing is for skills (from trader, tomes, Signet of Capture). But that also accumulates naturally from quests rewards and selling mats and drops. It's not much, some people may even laugh at the measly 10-20k I have... but seriously, what more do you need?
Minipets for my HoM.

Can't get enough on one account alone, and top end ones are expensive. Just an example. All elite armors, and the weapons. Need money for them.

Bright Star Shine

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It's been said, but who cares:

GvG top-tier: 3-4 hours/day -> ~750zkeys = ~4,875k/month
DoA top-tier: 3-4 hours/day, 40min runs, average, counting forming time -> 5 runs/day @ ~75k/run (can be up to 200k/run if you get a 7/15 or 8/16 and some random unid drops people didn't pick up) = ~11,250k/month

Well, bad example maybe, since 5 DoA's per day can be tiring, so let's make a more realistic one for 3 runs/day
So, @3 runs/day -> ~6,750k/month

And 3 runs can easily be achieved though, so I'd say DoA is still more profitable..

lemming

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GvG is less time than that (making semis is like 85% of Floor's figure), but you also can't plug away at it nonstop for increased linear gains.

Essence Snow

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It doesnt net as much as it used to...but dungeon running is rather profitable still.

It it's hayday I was able to pull in bout 455k for 1hr of running and anywhere from 5-30mins of forming.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plutoman
Minipets for my HoM. Can't get enough on one account alone, and top end ones are expensive. Just an example. All elite armors, and the weapons. Need money for them.
Ah, you're talking luxury items now. Been there. I do recognize the craving to have a certain max armor (the looks of your toon do matter) and I'm very lucky that I dislike most of the elite armor sets so I've not been tempted. Wallowing in luxury is hard stuff.

I must admit I don't "get" the HoM craze. I've looked at the GW2 rewards. A few minis, some special skin weapons and armors, a few titles. The items will probably be customized so no capitalizing on trading them, when and if they should become rarities. Which I doubt, since there's gonna be a million players with them (granted, I know, not me ). Perhaps it's the journey, not the destination, that matters.

Gabs88

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Could probably add SoOSC to the list if youre in a good guild. And the profits in Cantha can allso be rather extreme though it doesn't instantly pay off it sure as hell does over time. Presuming you can see gold when you get it

Not to forget services like dungeon running, mission running and AFK vanquishing services. Either one can earn you 50k hour +++ without much trouble.

It really is a shame though that this game has degenerated itself this far, because I really think you should be capable of getting money just by playing the game and not only thru high end farming. The only true way to fix this would be to add new drops thru the normal mobs or even a vanquishing chest with its own drops. Or maybe something along the line of collector items that can drop off every single mob in the game. Problem is no matter what they add, it does over time get killed off by farmers. Hopefully the GW2 system of getting more \ better drops first hour of play will help

Killed u man

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Farming fame and cpoints for people probably ranks up there.

I remember fame farming for people +- 3 years ago getting 3K per fame. You can do the math if you're getting 15+ fame per match.

Gabs88

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Farming fame and cpoints for people probably ranks up there.

I remember fame farming for people +- 3 years ago getting 3K per fame. You can do the math if you're getting 15+ fame per match.
Yeah well, those services are mostly banned now.

Nekodesu

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DoA, well it is to me anyways. Before when I was in a serious guild we used to do 40 mins runs, so that was really profit back then.

afya

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No gvg for my guild. So in my situation, I prefer DoA or RA on ZC days.

I run dungeon SCs sometimes to refresh but due to my always bad luck, I don't consider those as efficient way to earn money.

Plutoman

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Originally Posted by Urcscumug View Post
Ah, you're talking luxury items now. Been there. I do recognize the craving to have a certain max armor (the looks of your toon do matter) and I'm very lucky that I dislike most of the elite armor sets so I've not been tempted. Wallowing in luxury is hard stuff.

I must admit I don't "get" the HoM craze. I've looked at the GW2 rewards. A few minis, some special skin weapons and armors, a few titles. The items will probably be customized so no capitalizing on trading them, when and if they should become rarities. Which I doubt, since there's gonna be a million players with them (granted, I know, not me ). Perhaps it's the journey, not the destination, that matters.
I like to say I've completed, and I enjoy the work towards it. I enjoy farming to an extent, and I greatly enjoy the DoA. I enjoy completing my HoM. So money comes along with it. The HoM craze.. well, it's just like wanting luxury items - a certain look. I would like to have the titles to say I've done them, and the items themselves are kinda cool. It's unique.

Besides those, you don't *need* money to play GW. You can PvP or PvE just fine without money at all, something unlike WoW or other games.

@Gabs88 - you are perfectly capable of getting money through normal play. It's just not as much as high-end farming, which is perfectly reasonable. You can earn your elite armor through normal play, it just takes a bit longer.

If you add a collector's item, or a vq'ing chest, the items aren't going to have much value if everyone does them. You're confusing the issue. If it's available to everyone, it's not a high end item due to supply and demand. If it's high end, people will farm it, and drop rate will determine where it floats.

Coast

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1hour of high end equals at least10h of normal play just so u know...

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@Gabs88 - you are perfectly capable of getting money through normal play. It's just not as much as high-end farming, which is perfectly reasonable. You can earn your elite armor through normal play, it just takes a bit longer.
You can actually make quite a lot through normal play and not bothering with high-end farming. No, it's not going to be 5-6,000k a month, but honestly, you don't need anything close to that sort of money.

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You can actually make quite a lot through normal play and not bothering with high-end farming. No, it's not going to be 5-6,000k a month, but honestly, you don't need anything close to that sort of money.
True, I've never completed a high end dungeon or area in 4 years of playing and I have my 30/50 HoM rewards.

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It really is a shame though that this game has degenerated itself this far, because I really think you should be capable of getting money just by playing the game and not only thru high end farming.
I still do well with feather farming myself. If you hit the Tyrian and Canthan hotspots with the right build you can really rack up.

To address the above, one can earn the money needed to progress through the game simply by playing the game. No one needs To have 500e in order to equip themselves and function properly. The only reason to accumulate that much is to buy vanity skins or just for the sheer unadulterated hell of having that much cash on hand. There is no game mechanic that rewards people who have more loot.

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I still do well with feather farming myself. If you hit the Tyrian and Canthan hotspots with the right build you can really rack up.

To address the above, one can earn the money needed to progress through the game simply by playing the game. No one needs To have 500e in order to equip themselves and function properly. The only reason to accumulate that much is to buy vanity skins or just for the sheer unadulterated hell of having that much cash on hand. There is no game mechanic that rewards people who have more loot.
x2.

I've never had a ton of money and outside of equipping heroes/toons with insignia's and runes, never found that to be an issue.

byteme!

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You can actually make quite a lot through normal play and not bothering with high-end farming. No, it's not going to be 5-6,000k a month, but honestly, you don't need anything close to that sort of money.
Everyone and their pet rock knows you can make money through normal play. It goes without saying. Duh?! But the OP specifically said this...

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So im wondering what peoples opinion is on the best way to earn money in guild wars??
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what do you think is the easiest and least time consuming way to get rich?
@OP - Powertrading is arguably the easiest and more importantly "least time consuming" way to make money in GW. DoASC is up there too except like many have mentioned, requires you to do at least a few runs a night or close in order to make big quick bucks. To me that sounds like work. No thanks.

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Everyone and their pet rock knows you can make money through normal play. It goes without saying. Duh?! But the OP specifically said this...
My response, the one I was directly replying to, and the others following after it were in response to Gabs88 claiming that the only way to get money in this game is by high-end farming, which is very much not true. Yes, that sort of farming is a quick way to get money, but it isn't the only way.

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Yeah well, those services are mostly banned now.
banned on THESE forums, but ppl still do it.

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine View Post
It's been said, but who cares:

GvG top-tier: 3-4 hours/day -> ~750zkeys = ~4,875k/month
DoA top-tier: 3-4 hours/day, 40min runs, average, counting forming time -> 5 runs/day @ ~75k/run (can be up to 200k/run if you get a 7/15 or 8/16 and some random unid drops people didn't pick up) = ~11,250k/month

Well, bad example maybe, since 5 DoA's per day can be tiring, so let's make a more realistic one for 3 runs/day
So, @3 runs/day -> ~6,750k/month

And 3 runs can easily be achieved though, so I'd say DoA is still more profitable..
Usual PUG runs don't take 40 min, also counting the amounts of failures you can have. I remembers a usual PUG run takes about 1hour and 20 minutes and that is without doing Mallyx, counting mallyx with that time takes you around 2 hours to get at least about 3 gemsets which are worth 37k, some greens and some goldies.

I doubt 75k per run is possible.