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JSX

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2011

Canada !

loving the razah change.

Though i feel for those poor souls who bought a merc to do the triple mes set up LOL.

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by JSX View Post
loving the razah change.

Though i feel for those poor souls who bought a merc to do the triple mes set up LOL.
Tell me how you're going to get three Mesmers and two Rits without Mercs.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenomortis View Post
Tell me how you're going to get three Mesmers and two Rits without Mercs.
Two rits are overrated anyway, but maybe we'll get another Rit with WoC .

JSX

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2011

Canada !

>implying two rits are needed.
>implying even if by chance two rits are needed, the player can't run the other rit
>implying you weren't going to get a response.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

so when will they list all the tonics out? and with pics. XD otherwise i gotta follow people in game to look.

Eramon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

*Drool*

Thanks ArenaNet and to Guild Wars - Happy sixth birthday!

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

On second thought you mercless peeps should probably run an N/Rt channeler and an extra mesmer. The extra mesmer is more than worth the rune attributes.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

There seems to be a problem with the Zaishen Supply Master. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...ml#post5465013

SongOf

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzjudz View Post
Two rits are overrated anyway, but maybe we'll get another Rit with WoC .
This. And anyway a lot of players are moving away from spiritway for mobile, vanquish/bounty-friendly builds.

As for Razah, I want to try something interesting like 4 paras or 4 necros (non-Discord)

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzjudz View Post
Two rits are overrated anyway, but maybe we'll get another Rit with WoC .
QFT. The best rit hero is my ST with defensive spirits. My SoS will prob get replaced now since splinter can go on another hero and SoS isnt all that cracked up to be with 2 mesmers and a MM.

MrKGado

MrKGado

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

USA

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swingline View Post
QFT. The best rit hero is my ST with defensive spirits. My SoS will prob get replaced now since splinter can go on another hero and SoS isnt all that cracked up to be with 2 mesmers and a MM.
Sorry to get off topic, but ST?

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Soul Twisting. Although I'd keep the SoS tbh .

MagnumShadow

MagnumShadow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

Far Shiverpeaks

Someone should start looking for that Dhuum tonic

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnumShadow View Post
Someone should start looking for that Dhuum tonic
Grrr I've been looking for that and rurik no luck at all

St??phane Lo Presti

St??phane Lo Presti

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2010

Seattle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy View Post
There seems to be a problem with the Zaishen Supply Master. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...ml#post5465013
We're aware of the bug, but I'm afraid it'll only be fixed tomorrow. People will have to keep their cupcakes until then.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stéphane Lo Presti View Post
We're aware of the bug, but I'm afraid it'll only be fixed tomorrow. People will have to keep their cupcakes until then.
What about Razah's runes being destroyed? Is that intentional?

Seems wasteful and aggravating if you could just have them show up in the person's inventory or something.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
What about Razah's runes being destroyed? Is that intentional?

Seems wasteful and aggravating if you could just have them show up in the person's inventory or something.
I guess it's the same mechanics as Mercenaries.

Aba

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

Quote:
What about Razah's runes being destroyed? Is that intentional?
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by SongOf View Post
**HIS RUNES AND INSIGNIAS WILL BE DESTROYED**
Quote:Stéphane Lo Presti's
Actually, only the ones specific to his current profession should, others should be intact.
So if u have Rit runes......of course there gonna be destroyed while u change classes, other wise ur gonna have a hero thats not a Rit using Rit runes.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

just salvage the runes off. its not like his armor will get destroyed. problem solved.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzjudz View Post
Soul Twisting. Although I'd keep the SoS tbh .
I find ST better than SoS. when razahs spirits get destroyed the rest of my heroes do shit tones of dmg while the ST keeps everyone proted. example is I did fendi nin hm with heroes and no cons, the rit spikers would just kill his spirits and all he did was put splinter on the minions, No hero died in that dungeon or on the boss with the ST putting shelter,union and displacement up constantly. with all the dmg coming from mesmers/necros and the minions tanking SoS doesnt seem that great.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Tonics: cool.
HM quests: pretty disappointing. I was expecting more than xp and gold. Still, getting a PUG for Villainy was nice and nostalgic.
Flux: cute. Definitely not "sky is falling" material. Hope it shakes things up a bit.
Razah: appreciated, probably won't use much, and I don't have mercenaries.
Friends list thing: again, appreciate the effort, it's probably going to be more of a pain than a boon at this point.

Really, the "big thing" to look forward to is still WoC. Hope that hits soon.

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swingline View Post
QFT. The best rit hero is my ST with defensive spirits. My SoS will prob get replaced now since splinter can go on another hero and SoS isnt all that cracked up to be with 2 mesmers and a MM.
SoS isn't the point of an SoS rit (). You can't hit the r14 channeling breakpoint for SW with a non-rit, can you? For reference, SW @ r16 outputs over 60% more damage per cast then SW @ r12. Its one of the quickest scaling skills in the game, most others are lucky to see a 20-30% increase in effectiveness.

TBH, if running a ST rit hero you are best off leaving them with nothing but shelter, maybe one other spirit. Shelter is the only spirit that is actually important, a hero ST rit that only keeps that up does fine.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

Tonics: cool but they will be like japanese minis for a long time
HM quests: so far is all we get is 30k xp and 5k gold it sucks
Flux: doesnt nothing for me since i dont pvp anymore
Razah: cool for some chars i cant run two rts to bad you cant change his looks he is still butt ugly
Friends list thing: cool but also shows you who isnt your friend but takes out your ability to lie to some about where you are xD

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelWJedi View Post
Tonics: cool but they will be like japanese minis for a long time
I give it a few months max before some are sold for no more than 100k

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

Assuming the rarity vs drop rate is the same as in the past, the price should be roughly similar to what an equivalent rarity mini was last year. I highly doubt anyone who has gotten a 5th year mini is going to be deleting their character, so the influx of 6th year tonics should follow a similar pattern. There are lots of other possible mitigating factors that could affect the demand side of the equation, but the supply rate is almost certainly going to be nearly identical to what we are used to. Expect price drops at the same times in which many new accounts were created in the first year, therefore leading to a quickened influx of tonics.

travathian

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
Expect price drops at the same times in which many new accounts were created in the first year, therefore leading to a quickened influx of tonics.
Strongly disagree. One of the primary drivers of mini prices the last year has been the HoM. You've totally failed to take this into account.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

agreed with trav. When the 5th year minis came out, those went straight into HOM and had a use. If these were the very first tonics to come out, I'm sure there might be some lasting demand. But for many, tonics are only with how many party points they give you, and EL tonics give you none which means they have no real marketable value. Plus almost all the skins are heroes, which we can see any time we want. I say these tonics drop in value very fast.

On the other hand, this will prop up the price of 5th year minis, and earlier minis to a lesser extent.

AlsPals

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sellin hot stock tips for pro[fit]

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
SoS isn't the point of an SoS rit (). You can't hit the r14 channeling breakpoint for SW with a non-rit, can you? For reference, SW @ r16 outputs over 60% more damage per cast then SW @ r12. Its one of the quickest scaling skills in the game, most others are lucky to see a 20-30% increase in effectiveness.

TBH, if running a ST rit hero you are best off leaving them with nothing but shelter, maybe one other spirit. Shelter is the only spirit that is actually important, a hero ST rit that only keeps that up does fine.
Seriously, am I the only player who ever used SOS rits because shadow stepping behind them makes aggro balls that are easy to spike? SOS is underwhelming otherwise, but try it...ebon escape to your line and all the creatures wrap around the spirits. Deep Freeze, Panic, Esurge...you know where im going.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
agreed with trav. When the 5th year minis came out, those went straight into HOM and had a use. If these were the very first tonics to come out, I'm sure there might be some lasting demand. But for many, tonics are only with how many party points they give you, and EL tonics give you none which means they have no real marketable value. Plus almost all the skins are heroes, which we can see any time we want. I say these tonics drop in value very fast.

On the other hand, this will prop up the price of 5th year minis, and earlier minis to a lesser extent.
I agree with this assessment.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlsPals View Post
Seriously, am I the only player who ever used SOS rits because shadow stepping behind them makes aggro balls that are easy to spike? SOS is underwhelming otherwise, but try it...ebon escape to your line and all the creatures wrap around the spirits. Deep Freeze, Panic, Esurge...you know where im going.
i use a sos/healer rt on some girls. but not on my own rt since she runs sos her self.

obastable

obastable

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

humm ... i am ho-hum about the 6th year presents. when i read about more tonics i was rather excited, i thought "this would be a great opportunity for a-net to let the masses enjoy some of their favourite things!"

i was thinking ... everlasting polar bear, naga, island guardian, vizu, panda ... personally, i'd want an el. yakkington tonic!

but the same heroes i spend hours looking at every week? just ... meh ... no interest.

aefghuys

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Missouri

Obon

D/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by obastable View Post
humm ... i am ho-hum about the 6th year presents. when i read about more tonics i was rather excited, i thought "this would be a great opportunity for a-net to let the masses enjoy some of their favourite things!"

i was thinking ... everlasting polar bear, naga, island guardian, vizu, panda ... personally, i'd want an el. yakkington tonic!

but the same heroes i spend hours looking at every week? just ... meh ... no interest.
yea nothing changes with this update...the flux is kinda cool, but it changes monthly if im not mistaken

JONO51

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

P/

Man, I hope the titan quests come up in hm. Loved doing them the first time around and wanna do them again in hm too.

Also, anyone know what type of margonite the el margonite tonic is? Thanks.

-Martian-

-Martian-

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel of Ravn View Post
I give it a few months max before some are sold for no more than 100k

Quote for truth.

And even less than 100k, they are going to cost 10-20k/ea. Let the market be flodded as same as first minis.

Hyaon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

P/W

Did normal galrath yesterday, did master galrath today, only thing I saw was badly injured cultists regenning so I assume they killed him...way to go anet!.

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
SoS isn't the point of an SoS rit (). You can't hit the r14 channeling breakpoint for SW with a non-rit, can you? For reference, SW @ r16 outputs over 60% more damage per cast then SW @ r12. Its one of the quickest scaling skills in the game, most others are lucky to see a 20-30% increase in effectiveness.
If it weren't for SoS, I'm not sure I'd run the Rit.
I never used to, but it does depend on how well I could fit in other templates whilst keeping AR, Splinter Weapon and the couple of heals the guy brings.

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by travathian View Post
Strongly disagree. One of the primary drivers of mini prices the last year has been the HoM. You've totally failed to take this into account.
I DID say that a number of debatable factors could affect the demand side. However...

I highly, HIGHLY doubt someone is going to be buying 5th or (potential) 6th year minis for HoM. 99% of players buying stuff for HoM are picking up year 1 or year 2 minis (which naturally have a massively higher supply at any given time and are therefore cheaper). Since there is no difference between years as far as HoM is concerned, there is no reason to go for the higher priced ones except for the .1% of guild wars players who care about spending 100s of ectos on vanity. And if anything, tonics are just as vain or moreso than minis. They are certainly a whole lot more RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing annoying to me when I go into towns and see all the shitty shape changed people.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Also, there are more than twice the amount of tonics than a bday mini series, so the chance of getting the 'right' one is smaller as well.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

Personally bleh on the tonics. I don't want to look like one of my own heroes and don't want to prty with someone who looks like one of his heroes - that would just be confusing. So even if the drop to 10 g ea I won't be buying.

Now if the el bunny worked in explorable - that would be cool.

TyrianFury

TyrianFury

Guest

Join Date: May 2006

UK

E/

Great update but I'm having problems with the high-res texture option for outposts. I tick the option in the graphics settings but each time i exit the client it un-ticks itself and doesn’t want to save. All other settings stay on but it’s just the new options.

Is anyone else having these issues?



Thanks

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

Seems like we are getting a lot of the stuff we have asked for in the past...ability to change back to the old log in screens in the works?