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Ellix Cantero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Apr 2011 at 11:55 - 441

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artisan Archer

Flux is one of the worst updates to PvP since I started playing.

I'm long retired from serious PvP, but I imagined after reading a little bit about flux that it would be the source of much facepalming.

PvPers like change even less than PvEers. There'll be much QQing over random nerfing of meta builds.

Kc Quipor Ultra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

Belgium

TRL

E/Me

29 Apr 2011 at 12:45 - 442

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuD

Seems like we are getting a lot of the stuff we have asked for in the past...ability to change back to the old log in screens in the works?

this...... this is something i realy want for like years already

urania

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

vD

Mo/

29 Apr 2011 at 13:46 - 443

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellix Cantero

I'm long retired from serious PvP, but I imagined after reading a little bit about flux that it would be the source of much facepalming.

PvPers like change even less than PvEers. There'll be much QQing over random nerfing of meta builds.

you have little clue what you're on about.

the following quote form the flux effect thread may explain why you have little clue what you're on about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemming

"The introduction of Flux is a compelling tool to help us keep our competitive formats dynamic"

An example of some other updates that were introduced to "keep our competitive formats dynamic":

http://www.guildwiki.org/Game_updates/20080807
http://www.guildwiki.org/Game_updates/20081211

Change can be good. Blind change for the sake of change is bad.

mind my emphasis.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

29 Apr 2011 at 14:25 - 444

Game changes are only bad for those too inept to adept. A great change it may not be, but it's still better then allowing a stale game to continue plodding along.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

29 Apr 2011 at 14:37 - 445

For me the best parts are the visual (high-res textures in other players in outposts and costumes in pre-Searing) and Razah's 'fix'.

The Flux sounds nice... but I would have been more... extreme with the effects. For example, with Lone Wolf: Instead 10% for being alone... 15%!
I barely feel any changes. Silly warriors and assassins that take my elementalist on alone are still dying before they her health under 50%.

Hyaon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

P/W

29 Apr 2011 at 14:39 - 446

Lone Wolf...encourage them with a big damage boost and slightly lower damage taking....50%/30%

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

29 Apr 2011 at 14:42 - 447

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

For me the best parts are the visual (high-res textures in other players in outposts and costumes in pre-Searing) and Razah's 'fix'.

The Flux sounds nice... but I would have been more... extreme with the effects. For example, with Lone Wolf: Instead 10% for being alone... 15%!
I barely feel any changes. Silly warriors and assassins that take my elementalist on alone are still dying before they her health under 50%.

Are you dumb? a 20% damage boost (the effect change for a 1v1 fight) is already a stupidly dumb mechanic that does nothing but promote instagib assassins (characters which have ALWAYS been bad for the game and targeted with nerfs)

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

29 Apr 2011 at 14:45 - 448

really that low? wow maybe i can some day afford a gwen/jora/thackery/kunny tonic. *dreams* so for these hm quest how do they work? as in you can always do the quest and they add in more each day? or does it rotate like the zaishen stuff?

Xiaquin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2010

[aRIN]

R/

29 Apr 2011 at 16:29 - 449

Love the update overall. I didn't notice the hi-res textures change after enabling and rezoning. I'll try it again and restart the client. The rest of the changes are pretty neat; happy anniversary to GW.

So, Villainy of Galrath. I like challenge in PvE, but not when the challenge is just getting mobbed by a huge aggro using everything and the kitchen sink. Sorry guys but the reward isn't worth it. I honestly hope future quests are more thought-out, and that's my only complaint.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

29 Apr 2011 at 17:47 - 450

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kc Quipor Ultra

this...... this is something i realy want for like years already

2nd.....would LOVE to see the old screens (which they have told us time and time again could NOT be done, yet we have some other stuff which we were told the same thing about).

tonics--would have rather seen ones like togo, elder rhea, danika, etc (or cynn, eve etc)....not heroes whom I change their armors almost as quickly as I can get them (I hate their starter armors--bleh)....

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

29 Apr 2011 at 18:01 - 451

The new Vilany of Galrath was kinda meh.

No new drops, not repeatable. Just a one shot deal that took about 15min.

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

29 Apr 2011 at 18:10 - 452

Update was pretty good. HM quests are meh. Lot's of exp, but that isn't exactly something I need at this point. Some of the tonics are VERY cool (Margonite and Destroyer). Costume and hat makers in Pre was something I've wanted for a while..now people in pre will actually look a little more varied, rather than everyone wearing the same black-dyed starter armor. High res textures are nice. Razah update is meh...it might be neat to make him a Mes or Necro but other than that I'll be keeping him as a Rit anyway. Friend location seems a little redundant to me. Besides using it to find out who's been stalking me (add random person to list, if their location shows up it means I've been on their list all along...kinda creepy >.> ), I don't see much use for it. Overall a cool update though.

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

W/

29 Apr 2011 at 18:48 - 453

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

Game changes are only bad for those too inept to adept. A great change it may not be, but it's still better then allowing a stale game to continue plodding along.

Its not about a lack of ability to adapt, its never been about the lack of ability to adapt; when whatever was currently overpowered, it was run and at the same time was being complained about. Its about it being a poorly thought out change for change's sake.

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

29 Apr 2011 at 19:27 - 454

So, if you switch Razah to primary Warrior he gets 80AL right?

cantalus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

29 Apr 2011 at 20:08 - 455

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

Game changes are only bad for those too inept to adept. A great change it may not be, but it's still better then allowing a stale game to continue plodding along.

if we're going to discuss pvp we should have a thread in gladiators so we don't get inane platitudes like this

NewSin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2011

The Vatican Assassins

Rt/N

29 Apr 2011 at 20:22 - 456

But its ok for you guys to sit and talk about all the PvErs in threads we start... As if we havent heard it from the other side.

Kc Quipor Ultra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

Belgium

TRL

E/Me

29 Apr 2011 at 20:32 - 457

Update - Friday, April 29, 2011
Anniversary Updates

Elite Xunlai Bakery Agents have delivered supplies of Birthday Cupcakes to Zaishen Supply Masters for distribution.
Added localized text for various anniversary features.

accelerate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2008

E/

29 Apr 2011 at 21:39 - 458

Am I the only one who doesn't notice any difference with the high-res textures? I've been turning it off and on while in a town, and I can't see any improvement. Maybe my eyes are broken.

ChrisCo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

[ToR]

W/

29 Apr 2011 at 21:42 - 459

Quote:

Originally Posted by accelerate

Am I the only one who doesn't notice any difference with the high-res textures? I've been turning it off and on while in a town, and I can't see any improvement. Maybe my eyes are broken.

you have to turn it on then map somewhere new.

Ellix Cantero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Apr 2011 at 23:09 - 460

Quote:

Originally Posted by JONO51

Man, I hope the titan quests come up in hm. Loved doing them the first time around and wanna do them again in hm too.

Also, anyone know what type of margonite the el margonite tonic is? Thanks.

The Titan quests were pretty much HM before HM was around. It could be brutal with some of the pugs. 3,800 hours of playing and one of my proudest moments in GWs was being the only monk in my Krytan Titan quest party and no one died.

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

30 Apr 2011 at 00:26 - 461

so any more info on the hm quests? when will their be more? how do we get them? will the reward be the same? xD

ogre_jd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Canadia

W/

30 Apr 2011 at 16:08 - 462

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewSin

But its ok for you guys to sit and talk about all the PvErs in threads we start... As if we havent heard it from the other side.

When those PvP changes affect the PvE game, sure. Flux, on the other hand, has absolutely no ramifications for the PvE game, therefore it doesn't really have a place in a PvE-focused thread.

Plutoman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2010

E/

30 Apr 2011 at 17:18 - 463

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellix Cantero

The Titan quests were pretty much HM before HM was around. It could be brutal with some of the pugs. 3,800 hours of playing and one of my proudest moments in GWs was being the only monk in my Krytan Titan quest party and no one died.

No one knows of them anymore now. I loved them, though. They were pretty darn difficult.

Wasn't too long ago that I did the North Kryta Province one in HM, and VQ'd the area.

drkn

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

Me/

30 Apr 2011 at 17:21 - 464

Did the Titan Quests with henchmen only, as primary mesmer, with only Prophecy skills. Almost two years ago.
Sure, they were demanding, but i found only saving Ascalon to be hard.

@down: yep, that one.
The others weren't that difficult, especially that i used my mes as Me/N fast casting minion master with domination nukes back then.

Plutoman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2010

E/

30 Apr 2011 at 17:30 - 465

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkn

Did the Titan Quests with henchmen only, as primary mesmer, with only Prophecy skills. Almost two years ago.
Sure, they were demanding, but i found only saving Ascalon to be hard.

The 4-man one? I had to repeat that one several times afaik. I remember being jealous because my girlfriend beat it on her first try.

ManMadeGod

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

04 May 2011 at 07:14 - 466

Razah is cool.

As for Flux, to be honest I don't like it.
Splitting is a useful/viable tactic.

And...
sorry but I have to say that
Hard Mode Quests are disappointing.
Just old quests in hard mode.

And level 40 for Galrath is hilarious.
He is just a human, a white mantle.
This is the laziest way to add new "challenges" ever.

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

04 May 2011 at 08:53 - 467

Galrath himself wasn't really boss-like at all... Just use PS.

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

04 May 2011 at 11:22 - 468

Wow, does a level 40 Galrath mean he is stronger than an A.R.E.N.A. helicopter?

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

04 May 2011 at 14:09 - 469

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lishy

Wow, does a level 40 Galrath mean he is stronger than an A.R.E.N.A. helicopter?

Technically yes, but only if the Moahawk LANDS, since Galrath is Melee only.

A serious question: if you change Razah's profession, do his attack animations and emotes change or stay Ritualist? IE, if changed to a warrior, does he swing an axe like a warrior or like a ritualist?

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

04 May 2011 at 16:58 - 470

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iuris

Technically yes, but only if the Moahawk LANDS, since Galrath is Melee only.

A serious question: if you change Razah's profession, do his attack animations and emotes change or stay Ritualist? IE, if changed to a warrior, does he swing an axe like a warrior or like a ritualist?

He still animates like a rit. NPC class does not have to match up, Morghan doesn't even use paragon animations (nor Keiran for that matter...)

Lortext

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

04 May 2011 at 17:59 - 471

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManMadeGod

As for Flux, to be honest I don't like it.
Splitting is a useful/viable tactic.

The whole point of the Flux is to spice up the PvP metagame. This month it affects splits. Next month it could be hexes which are both useful and viable in PvP.

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

04 May 2011 at 18:09 - 472

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lortext

The whole point of the Flux is to spice up the PvP metagame. This month it affects splits. Next month it could be hexes which are both useful and viable in PvP.

I pray to God it isn't Hexes....

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

05 May 2011 at 01:34 - 473

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apok

I pray to God it isn't Hexes....

You know there is going to be one

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

US

05 May 2011 at 06:08 - 474

Who said it would be pro hexes too? Could punish them! 2 sides of every coin.

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

05 May 2011 at 07:11 - 475

Quote:

Originally Posted by refer

Who said it would be pro hexes too? Could punish them! 2 sides of every coin.

Some hexes are actually balanced and good for the game, others... well, let's just say that they should not have been in the game from the beginning.

Needless to say, I would rather not see Hexes (or conditions and enchantments for that matter) not be a factor in this Flux Capacitor thing.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

12 May 2011 at 21:53 - 476

ok, so now I have costumes on my pre character, however, my poor mule in ascalon has no way (other than getting to la) to get one....so when will we have the costumes and hat maker in old ascalon???????

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

13 May 2011 at 09:45 - 477

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosyfiep

ok, so now I have costumes on my pre character, however, my poor mule in ascalon has no way (other than getting to la) to get one....so when will we have the costumes and hat maker in old ascalon???????

You don't have a guild hall with a costume/hat maker?

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

13 May 2011 at 11:03 - 478

Quote:

Originally Posted by HigherMinion

You don't have a guild hall with a costume/hat maker?

You have a costume maker in your gh?

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

13 May 2011 at 12:27 - 479

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzjudz

You have a costume maker in your gh?

You ask too much, hats are cool enough.

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

13 May 2011 at 16:37 - 480

so i guess their wasnt another hm quest? Galrath was it? ive been looking but i cant find anything. QQ