Do You Want Hero Battles (HB) Back?

Izzy Owns

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2011

Never Gonna Let You [down]

Mo/

Hello.

Im here to ask you all if you want HB to come back. Sinceriously i really miss it, do you?

I think it was a great part of PvP, not similar to anything.

Ill make a list of The good things of Hero Battles:

- You could make it alone, no need to find groups & long waitings.
- Very Direfent Kind of PvP, thats always good.
- It had a ladder, motivation for PvP players, always good too.
- Monthly Automated Tournaments.

I think that Hero battles would really be positive if they come back, theres loads of people that miss them. And ill have to say that when HB were availeable you didnd have to wait for hours to enter, like you have to, now in Codex, or any kind of PvP where you have to make a team.

Anet could fix the zaishen mission of HB, by quitting it or by not leting /resign valid in HB, or something else, reducing the reward, increasing the victorys much more to recive the reward etc etc etc...

I would like all to post your ideas here, and if any member of Arenanet could read this and have it in mind, would be great.

Thank you for your time, Be back.

dorin

dorin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

HB, don`t care. TA, hell yes.

Izzy Owns

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2011

Never Gonna Let You [down]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dorin View Post
HB, don`t care. TA, hell yes.
I miss TA too. But anyway there is RA and TA was very dead.

You didnt have to make a team in HB(very good for this times), it was very interesting, or to change from the rest of PvP, and very diferent from the rest of PvP.

Thank you for the answer.

HigherMinion

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

Hero Battles sucked and was abused. Agree with Dorin. TA was a pretty cool guy.

Loki Seiguro

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

IGN: Scarlet Test Ace

We play Isketch in [HoH]

E/

Do you remember what happened to HB? Obviously not. With Codex quest they brought back the color resign day crap. Same thing happened with HB which is why that title became worthless.

UnicornStampede

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2011

HB>Codex

TA>Codex

TA>HB>Codex

Please bring hero battles and codex back.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro View Post
Do you remember what happened to HB? Obviously not. With Codex quest they brought back the color resign day crap. Same thing happened with HB which is why that title became worthless.
Codex title is worthless, because the only way you could ever get it is by syncing since nobody plays it.


I am just baffled that anyone would be against this. Why would anyone want a PvP arena WHICH ABSOLUTELY NOBODY PLAYS. It's completely dead. With HB and TA, although somewhat small, it had it's own playerbase and you could actually play it. And isn't being able to play it the main point of a game?

melissa b

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Too easy to be abused and theres already enough solo play in guildwars as is.

UnicornStampede

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by melissa b View Post
Too easy to be abused and theres already enough casual solo play in guildwars as is.
fixed.

there is no serious competitive solo play in this game currently.

Kosar The Cruel

Kosar The Cruel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2010

Ontario, Canada

D/

If Hero Battles ever came back it would just turn into an RR fest again.

TA on the other hand... Yes please.

ac1inferno

ac1inferno

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Boston

We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]

A/W

Yes, only because I miss the easy reward points.

reaper with no name

reaper with no name

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

FaZ

D/

Yes, let's bring back a fundamentally broken format, which even if it could work would only serve to further split the PvP community, thereby making things worse no matter how you slice it.

/notsigned

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

I don't think we need TA or HB back. Just need to focus on fixing RA and codex then everything will be fine. That is if they ever do fix them >.>

Premium Unleaded

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

JQ/FA were more pvp than HB. Hell, pve pugging is more pvp than HB, with retarded team-mates vs. not retarded team-mates.

At least make it not shadowstepn'capway -_-

Zenzai

Zenzai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/E

Heroes are not players. Therefore, they have no place in PVP. If they do bring HB back, it will be like EL tonics, fun to mess with, but nothing is gained from doing it.

UnicornStampede

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenzai View Post
Heroes are not players. Therefore, they have no place in PVP. If they do bring HB back, it will be like EL tonics, fun to mess with, but nothing is gained from doing it.
Starcraft requires microing units, Hero Battles requires microing heroes. So is starcraft not a PvP game? And yeah nothing would be gained from it except the entire hero battle community returning.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sadly, no.

I'd like to see the idealized version of HB that it was always supposed to be. But I realize that's impossible. The format is irreparably broken and will always descend into abuse no matter what you try to do to fix it. That's why it was removed in the first place, and why it needs to stay dead.

Acorn

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

Michigan, USA

Rt/A

The poll itself is showing far different results than the post are showing. Majority of players on guru seem to be casual PvPers at the most though. This could be the reason for the negative posts?(could be wrong, its just IMO)
Being a former HBer that quit GW for a while before RR day became prominent, I say that it would be an amazing return for the game. I also agree that TA should be brought back as well as it was fun to have a small team game available (codex is a joke and doesn't even count towards a "small team format").
I am biased, I know becuase it used to be what I did for the most part in Guildwars, but I have a hard time finding somebody who could say no to bringing back EVERYTHING that was removed for Codex, even if that means dealing with RR day in HB.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Are we really doing this thread again?

Also, Codex is garbage. I think that's the one topic that everyone can agree on unanimously.

Elnino

Elnino

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

In a house

Proof Of A Nets Laziness[HB]

A/W

I'd prefer it if they fixed HB, then re-implemented it but if I had to choose betwen HB and no HB, then HB please.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosar The Cruel View Post
If Hero Battles ever came back it would just turn into an RR fest again.
Except, players nows know that RR is against the EULA.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenzai
Heroes are not players.
Neither is the Guild Lord and the Ghostly Hero. What's your point? You're still playing against a human player.

Chrisworld

Chrisworld

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2010

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

W/

Neither. Trash Codex and improve Alliance Battles.

Nerel

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

Mo/

Why does a poll need two "Yes" answers, one indifferent and one "No" answer?

How does I load a poll?

_Deals_

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2010

Fort Worth, Tx

[DMNS][HEAT]

Mo/A

NO Zaishen Combat quests except for HA, GvG,RA, FA,JQ...and bring back the old goldies like TA and HB and since someone maxed Codex in less than 18 months that's just means it needs to be swapped out

Denim

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by Acorn View Post
...Majority of players on guru seem to be casual PvPers at the most though...
Add me to that list. Never done pvp & have no wish too. However, if it offered pvp maps & goals, but allowed me to play against the ai, I would be interested. Call it a newb's gate to pvp..kinda like pre-searing.

Btw..I don't know RA from HA.

Olle

Olle

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ign: Miniature Julia

Teh Academy[PhD]

W/

Why is this thread not closed yet?
HB wíll >NEVER< Come back, i dont see why people dont realise it , its been like a year since they removed it.

Threads with "HB/Hero Battles" in OP should be bannable.

Missing HB

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Anna

A/

HB should come back for many reasons that are mentionned , especially the fact that it's the only way to play serious PvP on total dead hour and competitive part( tournaments)....

However , i think ONLY people who really did play HB should vote for this no??? Because , there are plenty of people giving their opinion just repeating what they read such as " HB = RR" or " WHY again this , they said HB won't come back" and who never played the format..... That reminds me of that poll asking about a ladder reset in GvG... Why would non-GvG'ers decide for GvG'ers??

On a side note , i'm pretty convinced that HB and TA won't come back because they deleted the code , but we will see....

HigherMinion

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

TA is just RA with a party select; what do you mean "they deleted the code"?

Mentle King

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2010

Gate of Anguish

Surpassing the Ordinary [Epic]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by UnicornStampede View Post
Starcraft requires microing units, Hero Battles requires microing heroes. So is starcraft not a PvP game? And yeah nothing would be gained from it except the entire hero battle community returning.

Comparing SC to GW... In world do you live in sir? SC is not an MMORPG... its MMORTS... so comparing two different genres is a bit of imho...

But back to the topic... TA was fun... HB were resign spikes

Elnino

Elnino

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

In a house

Proof Of A Nets Laziness[HB]

A/W

The real question should be: If HB was fixed like it was supposed to be (meaning Anet finally listened to the HBer's feedback and fixed all the crap that was present in HB, including RR), would you be okay with it's return?

cantalus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

all anet had to do was remove the zquest from hero battles, what they did was punish the very people who played it seriously

CURUFIN

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2011

YES PLEASE¡

the funiest thing to do in gw just now, for me.

RR fix: simple --> avoid the command /resign in the map.

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by kajusbonus View Post
Threads with "HB/Hero Battles" in OP should be bannable.
Haha.. wow - police state!

I, for one, would love it if HB came back. I never really understood the numbers that made them remove it in the first place. Hypothetically, say 400 people are playing HB at a time vs 1600 playing RA (I know it's more, but bear with me), thats the potential for exactly the same number of matches. HB was one of the few places to still find regular PvP at any hour because it required very little preparation.

Still, its a pipe dream, I can't see it ever coming back. And, to be honest, ANet would lose a lot of face if they slipped it back into the game.

Izzy Owns

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2011

Never Gonna Let You [down]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CURUFIN View Post
YES PLEASE¡

the funiest thing to do in gw just now, for me.

RR fix: simple --> avoid the command /resign in the map.
Hola, hey CURUFIN.

I posted that idea on my first post, and they cud do even more things to avoid RRday.

We want HB Back!! (and TA if posible too)

Bebbo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Wales

Desolation Gods [DG]/Poop Knights [zzz]

A/E

Although I enjoyed HB it was broken way before RR was introduced. Hero AI is broken , maps like Crossroads were just a joke.

Is there a big enough community left form them to even consider this anyway?

Sly Nature

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Legado Aborigen

R/Me

/Signed



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Izzy Owns

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2011

Never Gonna Let You [down]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bebbo View Post
Although I enjoyed HB it was broken way before RR was introduced. Hero AI is broken , maps like Crossroads were just a joke.

Is there a big enough community left form them to even consider this anyway?
Well i think theres enough people. If we want HB/TA back, i think Arenanet should consider it.

Izzy Owns

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2011

Never Gonna Let You [down]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Missing HB View Post
HB should come back for many reasons that are mentionned , especially the fact that it's the only way to play serious PvP on total dead hour and competitive part( tournaments)....

However , i think ONLY people who really did play HB should vote for this no??? Because , there are plenty of people giving their opinion just repeating what they read such as " HB = RR" or " WHY again this , they said HB won't come back" and who never played the format..... That reminds me of that poll asking about a ladder reset in GvG... Why would non-GvG'ers decide for GvG'ers??

On a side note , i'm pretty convinced that HB and TA won't come back because they deleted the code , but we will see....
+1, great post.

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

As long as it's in a new more RA like format, cause the last one with split builds respawns and all of that silly stuff just did not work out.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

1) This really isn't an either-or thing. The question asked has absolutely nothing to do with whether you want Codex removed.
2) There was no option for "Not unless they fix it first...", so I responded "no". Putting it back in will be a failure if they don't fix it first.

If they do, magically, manage to make it work, fine, but honestly I'd rather them spend that time on something that more people will play. The HB faithful is remarkably well-represented around here, because it's just not a casual-friendly place.

crazy daggerfighter

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2009

Belgium: GMT+1

[MoO], [ohhi]

A/

HB, back just cause it was the funniest form of pvp in GW: No noobs in your team to rage at.

For all the HB=RR cryers among you: HB back w/o ZQ?

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

I don't want it back, but it should be brought back together with ta.
People like to have options increased, not decreased.