Title Importance

Ximvotn

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2011

To me titles aren't very important besides the PvE-skill only effectiveness though I do like Legendary Guardian. I honestly roll to many characters and get bored with them too quick to be concerned with anything but PvP titles and account wide. How about you? Are you a get them all person, come as they are, or I can do without. Personally, most feel very tedious or completely money driven and I'm sure this has been discussed into the ground, I'd like to here current feedback. I'm sure most people care only for their HoM accomplishments now.

On a scale from 1-10, rate how important you feel they are:
I give them a 4 because many people rely on them on an experience indicator even if the player is new to the game or they were bought, as I said before PvE-only skills are somewhat important when it comes to speed clears.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

there are a very few titles that have some pve related-ness (lightbringer, sunspear, eye-norn, asuran, ebon, dwarven) and are useful. lucky and chestrunner also have a bit of usefulness. The rest--for some of us goal orientated people, it gives us something to obtain (not for the epeen, but for the 'I was able to do this'), its a gold sink for others.


For me, I like to have goals. so getting legendary cartographer was more for me to say to MYSELF I was able to finish this (kinda like when I graduated hs--)...completing master of the north--was more like college graduation (still meaningless to everyone but me).
so overall. pve related ones-6
non-pveskill related- 4
(I dont pvp so I wont give those a number)

Del

Del

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Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

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Well, Pvp skill related are like a 3-4 to me, passive lockpick retention titles are a 7, pvp titles are 6.

Ximvotn

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2011

I completely forgot about lockpick retention those are important in the long run because high lockpick retention in hard mode will net you a bit of cash.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

PvP titles, when not purchased, are a byproduct of competence.

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

Don't care about sweet tooth,drunkard or lucky/unlucky titles, as in the games and consumable ones, the lockpick one I like but, but it's kind of weird, almost feel like they should be two different titles/achievements.

I like item id one, can't remember it's name atm.Like the skill (capture) titles and the guardian titles (though I'm in no rush to finish them)

I guess I like the ones you start working on by just playing the game, but for some reason I don't like carto,especially when I think to when I'm at 97.8% and no matter what I do I can't max it.I like the pvp ones too but my guild has been out of battles for too long to be really excited about it, people have been coming back so who knows maybe I'll get to work on them.

Lanier

Lanier

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Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

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I give the Sunspear and luxon titles a 5/10. They are important for their skills, but these titles are really easy to get up to a level where the skills are worth taking, so i don't really value them past rank 8 or so. I don't use eotn PvE skills because I think that they are stupid, so I don't put any value on the Eotn titles.

Lucky and Treasure hunter are the other two titles that I value and I put them at a 7/10 because I use lockpicks so often.

The rest are a 0/10. Seriously.. I have my 30/50 so I couldn't care less about them.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
PvP titles, when not purchased, are a byproduct of competence.
/Agree

Even though many will argue that Hero title is based heavily on time spent in HA, you still probably won't get r9+ if you aren't at least competent at the game.

Overall, I don't think titles have much importance. It's just an e-peen stroking for the most part.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
The rest--for some of us goal orientated people, it gives us something to obtain (not for the epeen, but for the 'I was able to do this'), its a gold sink for others.
Two great philosophers that grace my thread disagree with you. It's all about the e-peen.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract View Post
Two great philosophers that grace my thread disagree with you. It's all about the e-peen.
the difference is I dont show these titles to anyone---I completed these for my OWN pleasure not to show off to anyone. Others do it to show off "gee how great am I" ....I really dont give my rats behind about epeen--I am not great, I am a NOOB and I really dont care what anyone else thinks. I play the game for ME and no one else. I choose to finish titles for ME and not even for the stupid gw2 (since I have no gumption to even want to play it), not even for the Hom (though the HoM showed me a few more goals that I want to finish). I was finishing titles BEFORE they even WERE titles---I LIKED to roam the maps and find new places...I liked the challenge of finishing all the missions with the bonuses....waaaaay long before Hom even was a thought, before the titles came around---I did them for myself and no one else.

so your 'philosophers' can have a field day with that.

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

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Titles are, or rather, WERE, the least important thing for me in GW. However, I've done everything else, and when you've run out of things to do, you go for titles.

That's essentially why they were implemented. Anet meant for us to play the game, finish and then stop playing it. That people would keep playing even after they'd run out of content was unexpected. People had nothing to do, but still wanted to play GW instead of moving to a new game. So Anet gave them something to do for a long time - titles.

Really, I never thought I'd want to go for titles in my first 2-3 years of play. But then, I just started doing them, for lack of a better thing to do, and, well, GWAMM now, plus a survivor I technically don't need...

vitorvdp_68

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2010

I have fun getting my titles, apart from Cartographer, but I still go for it because of GWAMM. I really couldn't care less if someone knows that I mapped all of Elona, doesn't affect me or them.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

From a scale from 1-10, all of them are 0.
Yup.

urania

urania

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

vD

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
PvP titles, when not purchased, are a byproduct of competence.
and of the time invested into playing in a specific pvp arena along with the type of builds (ab)used.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta View Post
/Agree

Even though many will argue that Hero title is based heavily on time spent in HA, you still probably won't get r9+ if you aren't at least competent at the game.
you're wrong.

Raven Wing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

N/

I got my gwamm and 50/50 in HoM. After that I only put a bit of effort in a few pve titles when I need a skill on a char for this or that build. The rest of the titles are less important now since I have been there, got the T.shirt already

Tois

Tois

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Legacy of Echovald

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuris View Post
Titles are, or rather, WERE, the least important thing for me in GW. However, I've done everything else, and when you've run out of things to do, you go for titles.

Really, I never thought I'd want to go for titles in my first 2-3 years of play. But then, I just started doing them, for lack of a better thing to do, and, well, GWAMM now, plus a survivor I technically don't need...
This is me too, I used to think titles were a dull idea. Then I run out of things to do and titles have led my GW life since. Now on 36 PvE titles (never done much PvP) and still going for them on a 2nd and 3rd character... probably pure insanity.

It gives me something to do, and something to spend cash on, not into fancy weapons etc, but may end up getting all the destroyer, WiK and tormented weapons before the end. Just to see them in my HoM.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

I get titles as a side effect of playing, seldom do I actively try for them.
So I rate titles generally quite low maybe 3 unless they have a game effect then I rate them higher.

When I find I am reasonably close to a title I put in a little effort to complete them.
Zaishen quests gained me a few and large stores of alcohol and fireworks etc gained me 2 more when the hom came online.

Important to me not really I guess I would be quite unbearable if I gained them all.
the pve titles are useful but not the grind needed to get past mid level in them.

Godrik Gandolfi

Godrik Gandolfi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2011

Canterbury, UK

The Path Least Travelled

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I quite like the titles as something to aim for, but I don't attach more importance to them than that. This is a game and an enjoyable hobby for me, like most people I expect, so I prefer to keep it relaxing.

Having said that, I'm working towards GWAMM because it gives me something to aim for in the game, and when I do get the titles I have a pleasant sense of accomplishment. Like people have said before, though - this is just for my own satisfaction rather than because I am concerned about what others will think - just the same as achieving a goal in any hobby. I expect my guildies and I will have a glass of something bubbly the night we turn GWAMM though, but that's about it :-)

NerfHerder

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

EotN, Luxon/Kurz, and SS/LB are 8/10. PvE skills are too powerful to pass up on. I'm an altoholic, so I generally concentrate on those. I'd rather have 10 KOABDs that have access to all parts of the game, than one GWAMM.

The rest is just for fun if you have the time. Except for a few PvP titles, no title is an indication of player skill or knowledge and thats debatable. I have met too many GWAMMs that dont have a clue.

cantalus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta View Post
/Agree

Even though many will argue that Hero title is based heavily on time spent in HA, you still probably won't get r9+ if you aren't at least competent at the game.
sometimes, perhaps often, but time also means experience, but as said by Urania it's by no means always true. there are good reason people say "don't ball" in high ranked teams, there are good reasons that lower ranked teams beat higher ranked teams, and there is a good reason bad players play op'd team builds, at a certain level, you get past rank, and play with people who you trust and who are prepared to communicate on VoIPs

sorry OP, got a feeling i'm off topic

Urcscumug

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2011

UNO

W/

I like the Cartographer titles and that's about it. I like to display them and I like seeing them on others. Because I like exploring and I like people who felt the need to go see everything in the GW world. Of course, some may get them just for the HoM, but those people are not likely to display Cartographer, there's more fancy titles you can show off.

Anyway, I think titles are very personal to each player, they mean something, give a sense of achievement. I try not to jump to conclusions and assume "pure epeen". I am tempted, but I try not to.

Whirl E Vic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2009

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urcscumug View Post
I like the Cartographer titles and that's about it. I like to display them and I like seeing them on others. Because I like exploring and I like people who felt the need to go see everything in the GW world. Of course, some may get them just for the HoM, but those people are not likely to display Cartographer, there's more fancy titles you can show off.

Anyway, I think titles are very personal to each player, they mean something, give a sense of achievement. I try not to jump to conclusions and assume "pure epeen". I am tempted, but I try not to.
I like the concept of exploring, but I wish it was more of a "find X/1000 sites in Tyria" Stuff like the wizards tower in Kessex peak, that cathedral type thingy in the SW of the falls, grenth statue in lornars etc.

That would make carto an 8 in my book. The current wall-scraping gets about a 1.

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urcscumug View Post
Because I like exploring and I like people who felt the need to go see everything in the GW world.
I do too!The only problem I have with carto I have in the way its implemented, is that It can be tedious, it's not about exploration its about scrapping each and all corners of the planet.

I agree with Whirl E Vic if it was more like find : "Aidan's home" "Riverside Den" "Spider's Cave" it would be much better, so instead of scraping the map you would need to look out for landmarks.

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

The game was better without titles

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

R/

Title importance = 0

Titles as a indicator of how much and how well you have played the game are fun. Most if not all GW titles have been downgraded. You can get GWAMM without knowing much about the game other than how to powertrade. So titles here mean nothing.

For myself there are titles I like having because I know the effort I put in to achieve them, but I would have done all that anyway, some if them I was well on the way to before titles existed.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Another thought about titles is that their importance if any must be diminishing now the game is so old.

Gaining Gwamm say in the first year gw was out "not that it was possible" would have given you 5 years of swanking about as the worlds greatest something or other.

As against gaining GWAMM a week before we all move to GW2 or some other game.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

1.

Titles are only there to show how long you have been playing the game, not any sort of skill. Some people that have titles have skill, but having skill is not a requirement to have the titles.

Hobbs

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

My own titles for me are a 9, they kept my playing and interested and I had tons of fun getting them all.

Other people's titles are a 3, it's cool to see the people who have 37 max but I don't really pay other people's titles much attention.

dudemonkey

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2011

NYC

DOTR

W/

I'm a goal-and-task-oriented person, so I enjoy working on titles for that reason. They're not my main reason to play (that would be: "to have fun"), but they're specific and measurable, which sits well with me.

I'm working on Tyrian Cartographer and Drunkard at the moment, although I haven't bought any alcohol yet, just drinking what I get from special event farming/Nick The T.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobbs View Post
My own titles for me are a 9, they kept my playing and interested and I had tons of fun getting them all.

Other people's titles are a 3, it's cool to see the people who have 37 max but I don't really pay other people's titles much attention.
This.

Titles = goals. It's ok saying you play a game for fun, but at some point you will set yourself goals. I'm proud of the effort I put in for my PvE titles as they were all goals to reach and kept me playing, but I couldn't give a shit about other people's titles.

Aljasha

Aljasha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

I care about them, because they give me something to do until GW2 is released. However they are not important to me and I don't judge others for their rank. In PvP they are nice, but they don't tell anything about a player's personality. Since I've met a lot of players with high ranks in PvP and a personality I usually avoid in RL, I mostly ignore any statistics when looking for new recruits. After all, ranks do not track player skill progress, but the raw number of wins.

I am more interested in somebody's guild history and how the person acts in a group.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

They have the importance you give them.

For me, titles other have are meaningless. The only titles that count for me are my own. I don't get titles to be over others like in some leaderboard or scale, but for mere completion. In the same way, I got all 1319 skills in one character, HoM and GWAoMM for completion, not competition.

rcox100

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2011

Shaemoor University [UoS]

A/

im one of the people that has a goal to get all the titles i love having a title that took me some hardwork and ragequiting to get

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymous View Post
1.

Titles are only there to show how long you have been playing the game, not any sort of skill. Some people that have titles have skill, but having skill is not a requirement to have the titles.
Now say that about PvP titles but give me a minute to make some popcorn first.

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

For me, titles have always been unimportant. The character of the player and how they can help and support the team is much more important.

I'd much rather have a 0 title player who listens and does their best than a GWAMM who ignores everyone and just does their own thing.

coil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract View Post
Now say that about PvP titles but give me a minute to make some popcorn first.
because you can't synch/purchase/feed yourself pvp title points?

glad can be synched or bought
fame can be bought and fed
champ can be bought and fed
zrank can be bought

as the game gets older deciphering, on face value, if a player has skill or time becomes less accurate.

that's not to say everyone who has a high rank has bought/fed/synched their way to it. but not knowing any background info on the person before seeing the title leaves me hardly impressed.

it's the player, not the account title(s), that deserves my respect.

so, as anonymous stated, some people that have titles have skill, but having skill is not a requirement to have the titles.

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

They're of no importance to me. Though i do have some weird kinda of satisfaction from the fact that i've gained some, but not enough that i would care if they all disappeared in some sort of title removal.

I don't play for titles, though i did a bit for HoM before i rapidly realised i didn't like doing it.


Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract View Post
Now say that about PvP titles but give me a minute to make some popcorn first.
Noone worth listening to in PvP cares about their titles. Course in HA it seems a lot do, but it's also the only sign of (hopefully) some form of competence from a random player you've never played with.

Aycee

Aycee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2010

The other side

Quote:
Originally Posted by rcox100 View Post
im one of the people that has a goal to get all the titles i love having a title that took me some hardwork and ragequiting to get
I'm riding in this boat.

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by coil View Post
glad can be synched or bought
synced yes, bought, don't think so.
Quote:
Originally Posted by coil View Post
fame can be bought and fed
Who respects Haers either way?
Quote:
Originally Posted by coil View Post
champ can be bought and fed
And at the price I've seen people try to charge for champ points, you'd be better off just learning to play.
Quote:
Originally Posted by coil View Post
zrank can be bought
Not a real PvP title, just something anet counted as pvp since pvers aren't competent enough to fill HoM without it.

Ximvotn

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by slowerpoke View Post
The game was better without titles
I feel the same most of the time. It was better without KoABD title track, but Legendary Guardian is the only title I want to display.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
synced yes, bought, don't think so.
Who respects Haers either way?
And at the price I've seen people try to charge for champ points, you'd be better off just learning to play.
Not a real PvP title, just something anet counted as pvp since pvers aren't competent enough to fill HoM without it.
Learning to play GvG in a guild that is champ rated might not be the easiest thing for people those guild also want people with a decent Gladiator, Hero, and Codex rank or something to prove their worth. They also need to be very experienced and have previous high-end GvG experience. Getting to r3 is tough because you usually don't get points by the dozen, but by a few games. I guess you could buy your way to Mighty Hero.