Update: August 25th 2011 - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

25 Aug 2011 at 21:14 - 1

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Bug Fixes

Fixed a text bug that incorrectly described the functionality of Saul D'Alessio’s version of Unnatural Signet.
Fixed a bug that allowed the Master of Lightning and the Master of Spirits to use the PvE versions of skills in the Isle of the Nameless (PvP).
Fixed a bug that caused the Dark Watcher to not use skills.
Fixed a bug that allowed players to abandon the quest “Into Chahbek Village.”
Fixed a bug that caused Smiter's Boon (PvP) to not double the Divine Favor bonus.
Fixed a bug that caused Jungle Strike to incorrectly apply the bonus damage.
Fixed a bug that caused Weapon of Shadow to inflict Blindness with all attacks at low attribute ranks. Weapon of Shadow now inflicts Blindness on the next 1...3...3 attacks.

Smiter's Boon = trollololololol?

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

25 Aug 2011 at 21:18 - 2

I...I thought that was part of the nerf to Smiter's Boon. That was unintentional?

Olle

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ign: Miniature Julia

Teh Academy[PhD]

W/

25 Aug 2011 at 21:21 - 3

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Originally Posted by makosi

smiter's boon = trollololololol?

omg gvg smite way is nerfed.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

25 Aug 2011 at 21:34 - 4

are people still doing those bonus mission pack quests?? (Saul D'Alessio)....and just a text bug????
/sigh

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

25 Aug 2011 at 21:39 - 5

i dont get the one quest bug..who would drop that quest from their log?! o.0

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

25 Aug 2011 at 21:49 - 6

I'm just wondering when we're going to see the next phase of WoC. It's been like, a month and a half since the first part launched?

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

25 Aug 2011 at 21:51 - 7

sad updates,lol...

Lil Leena

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

E/

25 Aug 2011 at 21:52 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelWJedi

i dont get the one quest bug..who would drop that quest from their log?! o.0

I didn't think quests could be abandoned in an explorable tbh....

Nyta

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

25 Aug 2011 at 21:57 - 9

The smiter's boon bug fix made me lol. XD

I appreciate the small bug fixes, but with that skill . . . no one will use the fixed version, so why did they bother?

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

25 Aug 2011 at 22:06 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErrantVenture

I'm just wondering when we're going to see the next phase of WoC. It's been like, a month and a half since the first part launched?

I figured Part 2 comes out in either mid-September or early November, and then Part 3 comes out, in the worst case scenario, at the end of January 2012 or early February.

As for bug fixes, the Dark Watcher uses skills now, so I'm curious what they might be.

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

25 Aug 2011 at 22:36 - 11

Fantastic Update!

This update addresses major issues with the game.

Since I have yet to start the BMP, I happily welcome the Saul fix.

Very proud of ANET, GOOD JOB!

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

25 Aug 2011 at 23:13 - 12

FA has been broken for years & they're fixing text...

DiogoSilva

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2011

Girl

E/

25 Aug 2011 at 23:50 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuD

FA has been broken for years & they're fixing text...

They've been fixing FA, too. And even since those bug fixes started to happen.

Anyways, the designers and game balancers are probably all busy with WoC. Still, I was hoping for something from them this month...

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

26 Aug 2011 at 01:56 - 14

The quest fix was this: you got the quest from Kormir in the explorable area and could then abandon it in Chahbek Village before accepting the reward. This would leave you with no way to reacquire the quest and thus no way to proceed in the main storyline.

They're just fixing easy to fix bugs reported on the forum. I guess the harder ones (FA/JQ etc) take more time.

Chocolate_Prayers

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Australia

Mo/

26 Aug 2011 at 01:56 - 15

Quote:

Fixed a bug that caused Smiter's Boon (PvP) to not double the Divine Favor bonus.

not sure if ANet is trolling..

Plutoman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2010

E/

26 Aug 2011 at 02:32 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzjudz

The quest fix was this: you got the quest from Kormir in the explorable area and could then abandon it in Chahbek Village before accepting the reward. This would leave you with no way to reacquire the quest and thus no way to proceed in the main storyline.

They're just fixing easy to fix bugs reported on the forum. I guess the harder ones (FA/JQ etc) take more time.

This..

They're fixing the bugs that can be done easily. Gotta start somewhere. Personally, I'm pretty happy about it - not game-changing, but simple things like this can really polish a game. I'm confident enough that they'll work on the other issues. That forum has brought quite a few fixes in.

DiogoSilva

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2011

Girl

E/

26 Aug 2011 at 04:43 - 17

Yes, since the official forums opened up, there have been a lot of fixes that wereonce ignored/ overlooked, most notable on FA/ JQ. I believe this is slightly independent of whoever is in charge of skill balancing or content designing, so those kind of updates does not means the main designers are wasting their time doing "useless" stuff. (Although unlikely, I might be wrong in this one :P)

Still, I was hoping for some skill updates at this time of the month. Or at least a skill preview of a future update, or something to make us talk about and get excited (or whine about, hehe).

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

26 Aug 2011 at 04:47 - 18

If bugs are being fixed, I'd have hoped that they'd get around to tackling the one bug that has an actual impact on the competitive metagame.

Lanier

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

P/

26 Aug 2011 at 05:07 - 19

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Originally Posted by lemming

If bugs are being fixed, I'd have hoped that they'd get around to tackling the one bug that has an actual impact on the competitive metagame.

There is more to the game than your "competitive metagame". There is no reason for them to put special priority over a bug from one area of the game than from another area. I'm certainly not against your bug being fixed, but I think that the most pressing bugs now are the FA ones.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

26 Aug 2011 at 05:34 - 20

you must wonder what their priorities are when they do these. (gee we have to get SOMEthing out--how about that text bug--should take me, what, a whole minute to fix--yeah, yeah-- at least its something right? right????)
fixing a text bug? is that more important than fixing a skill? or the stupid turtles etc in jq type thing?
I am still waiting for them to fix all the armor glitches that have been around since prophecies--those should be higher up than a text bug--one would think...though certainly not as high up as something like a bugged skill or npc's.....but then again----

we should be grateful for the updates--so ...thank you for continuing to update the game.

Curo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT-5

Liars, Cheats and Thieves [Liar]

Mo/

26 Aug 2011 at 05:37 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanier

There is more to the game than your "competitive metagame". There is no reason for them to put special priority over a bug from one area of the game than from another area. I'm certainly not against your bug being fixed, but I think that the most pressing bugs now are the FA ones.

I don't usually post in these threads cause it's usually the same old "boo anet didn't fix the bug I wanted them to fix". But this post...come on! There is plenty of reason for them to focus on bugs that actually affect people on a day to day basis, versus a bug that affects something that was purposely nerfed into oblivion forever ago.

Progress is progress...just at this rate we're going to be playing GW2 before GW1 becomes polished enough. Meh, the game is still fun. And with so many angles and possibilities with every aspect of the game, we'll probably never see it "polished". But look on the bright side: you can't accidentally screw yourself from completing NF now.

Can't really complain. The game is free to play, and all the developers have moved onto new things like GW2. We get a few new quests and reskinned weapons every few months, and that's really all the development team has the ability to do with their current staff.

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

26 Aug 2011 at 05:43 - 22

People don't use and won't use any of the three skills. People use Mirror of Ice.

Sure, minor bug fixes aren't that important, but that doesn't mean that they're equally unimportant.

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

26 Aug 2011 at 07:07 - 23

First of all, this update shows us one thing: that Anet take the official support forums seriously. The bug fixes were posted there, got noticed, fixed up fast. So, off to support forums you go to report more serious issues

Side note: seems that Anet decided to work on fixing up the minor issues that take little time while to fix compared to the more serious issues. Note that a bug that is easily recognized, the problem identified and easily fixed are one thing, while a complex issue that is hard to even track down, much less resolve elegantly is quite another.

Missing HB

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Anna

A/

26 Aug 2011 at 07:16 - 24

Yes, i'm quite annoyed at the fact that every bug fix they do concern stuff that i actually never noticed... and bugs that i encounter anywhere are still here after 1 year or more... ( i'm pretty sure that's the case for a certain amount of players too)...

Isle of nameless arenas for example : 1 year after, you can still do those 8v4(i reported that bug long time ago too....).. You might tell me " who cares of those arenas?" .. sure but who cares of those bug fixes they did then....

There's also bugs that affect both teams in PvP that are quite annoying ...

Bristlebane

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

26 Aug 2011 at 08:56 - 25

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Originally Posted by Iuris

First of all, this update shows us one thing: that Anet take the official support forums seriously. The bug fixes were posted there, got noticed, fixed up fast. So, off to support forums you go to report more serious issues

Surprised someone noticed and bug reported Smiter's Boon (PvP) unless they were trolling and now go lolling :P

Personally I dislike their "solution" to remove Smiter's Boon (PvP), it would have been better they did something like "Enchantment Spell. For 5..30 seconds, your Smiting Prayers skills recharge 0..25% faster."

Don't think that would have been overpowered since the smiting line is rather meh in PvP.

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

26 Aug 2011 at 09:58 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristlebane

Surprised someone noticed and bug reported Smiter's Boon (PvP) unless they were trolling and now go lolling :P

Personally I dislike their "solution" to remove Smiter's Boon (PvP), it would have been better they did something like "Enchantment Spell. For 5..30 seconds, your Smiting Prayers skills recharge 0..25% faster."

Don't think that would have been overpowered since the smiting line is rather meh in PvP.

Yeah, there were quite a few smilies and tongues in cheek in the post where it was reported

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

26 Aug 2011 at 10:27 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosyfiep

you must wonder what their priorities are when they do these. (gee we have to get SOMEthing out--how about that text bug--should take me, what, a whole minute to fix--yeah, yeah-- at least its something right? right????)

That's probably as far as they can get with bug fixes...

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

26 Aug 2011 at 10:56 - 28

They blatantly just don't give a s**t now. Either legitimise the 'oh noes we're all super busy on GW2' and give us the beta or actually bother with GW1. Kinda simple.

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

26 Aug 2011 at 11:55 - 29

So, Smiter's Boon (PvP) was actually nerfed to the point where it didn't even do the one thing that it was supposed to do? And it's been like this the whole time? Harsh.

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

26 Aug 2011 at 13:26 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemming

People use Mirror of Ice.

Not in PVE / JQ / FA / AB / RA they dont, which is like the most of the game

Theres absolutely no reason why the part of the game that you play should take a priority over the rest.

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

26 Aug 2011 at 14:11 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

Theres absolutely no reason why the part of the game that you play should take a priority over the rest.

Competitive vs. non-competitive.

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

26 Aug 2011 at 14:19 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

Not in PVE / JQ / FA / AB / RA they dont, which is like the most of the game

Theres absolutely no reason why the part of the game that you play should take a priority over the rest.

Were you negatively affected by any of the bugs fixed in this update? No? Then the bugs that do negatively impact the game, even if it's not the part that you play, should take precedence.

FA's bugs are AI and pathing issues, mostly. Those are much more difficult to fix than fixing a damage type for a single skill. This should not be an issue, stop using every goddamn opportunity to proclaim that GvG is nothing special. It IS special, in that small bugs can have a large impact in that format, and the same cannot be said of any other format (HA, maybe).

Simple fix + large impact = it should be a priority, over anything that is complicated (FA AI) or doesn't have a large impact (all of these bugs). Period. Arguing otherwise is just arguing for the sake of thumbing your nose at GvGers.

AndrewSX

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2010

Italy, Turin

Lake

E/

26 Aug 2011 at 15:42 - 33

On a side note:

-Fixed a bug that caused the Dark Watcher to not use skills.

We did a Slaver's Sc right now.Skills we've observed:
-Tranquil Was Tanasen
-Weapon of Warding
-Channeled Strike
-Shooting Memories
-Ancestor's Rage

The last one proved kinda annoying >_>

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

26 Aug 2011 at 15:55 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewSX

On a side note:

-Fixed a bug that caused the Dark Watcher to not use skills.

We did a Slaver's Sc right now.Skills we've observed:
-Tranquil Was Tanasen
-Weapon of Warding
-Channeled Strike
-Shooting Memories
-Ancestor's Rage

The last one proved kinda annoying >_>

He's just a copypasta of Orosen, Tranquil Acolyte then.

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

26 Aug 2011 at 16:05 - 35

Dark Watcher SoC:

drkn

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

Me/

26 Aug 2011 at 17:09 - 36

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stop using every goddamn opportunity to proclaim that GvG is nothing special. It IS special

No, it's not.
Or it is as special as any other format, facerolling Glaiveway as well.

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FA's bugs are AI and pathing issues, mostly. Those are much more difficult to fix than fixing a damage type for a single skill.

This made me think, some time ago actually, that maybe fixing a single skill ain't that easy as it seems. Someone from the TK or, even better, ANET would have to talk about how a single skill gets changed in an update, but the empiric experience shows that's a bit complicated (or both the TK and the Live Team are just a bunch or lazy idiots, which i think is not true).

X Dr Pepper X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

26 Aug 2011 at 17:35 - 37

This is just RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing pitiful.

Clearly ANet has no priorities of any kind other than to produce WoC which even then does not address anything detrimental to the game and promoting their microtransaction bullshit.

They don't even give news or information- the least common denominator of game balance and maintenance for the game's community

Lanier

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

P/

26 Aug 2011 at 18:02 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

Competitive vs. non-competitive.

...still doesn't mean it should take priority over the rest. I'm pretty sure that more people play JQ/FA/PvE/everything else than high-end PvP.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against fixing any bug in the game. I just don't like it when people seem to think their format is more deserving of attention than others - especially when their format has a lower population of players than all of the others.

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

26 Aug 2011 at 19:05 - 39

quality>quantity

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

26 Aug 2011 at 19:19 - 40

Never noticed one of these bug and smiters boon needs to be reverted back for RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO sake. All I can say is I hope there is a big update besides WoC part 2 that satisfies most of us, but chances are slim.