Good luck everyone!
And since the workshop isn't closed yet(?) I hope we can still make something nice and fancy (like how I'm intending to finish the piece I was working on at first)
2011 Halloween Workshop!
GeminiJuSa
Mine didn't bounce, So I sure hope they got it
Good luck everyone!
And since the workshop isn't closed yet(?) I hope we can still make something nice and fancy (like how I'm intending to finish the piece I was working on at first)
Good luck everyone!
And since the workshop isn't closed yet(?) I hope we can still make something nice and fancy (like how I'm intending to finish the piece I was working on at first)
Death By An Arrow
@ Minami Yeah, i figured thats how I would know if it sent. I got like 4 emails saying they couldnt get my email or something, then i sent it one last time and didnt get a failure email back.. so i hope its in! I hope I attached it right (little paper clip with the attachment icon? 
).
... let me double check my email. >.>
Also, everyones stuff looks so great some really awesome costumes and pieces.
Stouda, that looks friggin amazing. I really like your style, its sort of what I want to (one day) aim for with painting (traditional and digital). I think the first leap is more realism and less cartoony feeling. Any suggestions, based on my painting [considering this is very likely the best application of my painting skills as of yet] on where I should start to look for improvements/changes?
Also, a little unrelated, but what do you suggest for going from pencil-->digital? It never works out for me, and is a big hurdle for painting digitally.
Anyways, i'll be posting a higher resolution/unwatermarked copy of my painting as soon as the clock strikes 3:00 (eastern timezone).
). ... let me double check my email. >.>
Also, everyones stuff looks so great
some really awesome costumes and pieces. Stouda, that looks friggin amazing. I really like your style, its sort of what I want to (one day) aim for with painting (traditional and digital). I think the first leap is more realism and less cartoony feeling. Any suggestions, based on my painting [considering this is very likely the best application of my painting skills as of yet] on where I should start to look for improvements/changes?
Also, a little unrelated, but what do you suggest for going from pencil-->digital? It never works out for me, and is a big hurdle for painting digitally.
Anyways, i'll be posting a higher resolution/unwatermarked copy of my painting as soon as the clock strikes 3:00 (eastern timezone).
Maio
eep. i hope i didnt miss turning my piece in its only 11:00am here. timezones confuse me...
Minami
There's 40 minutes left
Odinius
Yes after submitting it felt too messy to me too, I was in a real hurry to get it all done in time.
I had to hurry for work and had my kids running around (no ideal situation having multiple fragile sculptures on the table)
In the end I was just happy it was in the mail and hope they can see beyond the clutter
I had to hurry for work and had my kids running around (no ideal situation having multiple fragile sculptures on the table)
In the end I was just happy it was in the mail and hope they can see beyond the clutter
Arghore
@Rends, no i mean frog perspective or dog, or w/e it's called, basically you put the statue on the edge of a table, kneel down to the front/side and shoot upwards making the statue look huge...
@Thistle & Rends, i didn't say Rends was messy? i found odinious one a bit messy with a lot of detail shots, way to busy. Rends was actually a bit boring with just pics from side to side, i am fairly sure that if he takes two new pictures from the low viewpoint and makes the front shot the center, to then put a few details here and there (basically where the main shots are empty. The whole picture looks more interesting while not compromising a viewer from seeing what he made and the details of it...
In my study for ID (industrial design) there were actually a couple of lessons in various courses dedicated to presenting 'a product' in a collage. Tbh i can't recall all the details and feedback from those lessons, but some things stuck:
- Don't just take shots, try and find the best angles for your product, and make it stand out.
- Take general and detailed pictures
- Mix and match these pictures to present your product in an interesting way. people first see the whole thing, a to busy or to boring total-collage will actually set their first impression, thus if you give it an interesting whole look people will be more prone to check it out for it's details... and that is exactly what you want
Now this may not be an exact science, and every product is different, has different angles and thus different collages will emerge. But if i'm not mistaken there was actually a course 'product photography' (which i didn't take), that had a lot more things to say about how to present your object at it's best. Thing like lighting, reference sizes with filling objects (f/e a pen and notebook next to a desklight to give both size as well as context references).
Thus i am not saying either of Odinius or Rends overview shots were bad ... but that they can improve them by making some choices and doing something interesting with how they present their final work.
@Thistle & Rends, i didn't say Rends was messy? i found odinious one a bit messy with a lot of detail shots, way to busy. Rends was actually a bit boring with just pics from side to side, i am fairly sure that if he takes two new pictures from the low viewpoint and makes the front shot the center, to then put a few details here and there (basically where the main shots are empty. The whole picture looks more interesting while not compromising a viewer from seeing what he made and the details of it...
In my study for ID (industrial design) there were actually a couple of lessons in various courses dedicated to presenting 'a product' in a collage. Tbh i can't recall all the details and feedback from those lessons, but some things stuck:
- Don't just take shots, try and find the best angles for your product, and make it stand out.
- Take general and detailed pictures
- Mix and match these pictures to present your product in an interesting way. people first see the whole thing, a to busy or to boring total-collage will actually set their first impression, thus if you give it an interesting whole look people will be more prone to check it out for it's details... and that is exactly what you want
Now this may not be an exact science, and every product is different, has different angles and thus different collages will emerge. But if i'm not mistaken there was actually a course 'product photography' (which i didn't take), that had a lot more things to say about how to present your object at it's best. Thing like lighting, reference sizes with filling objects (f/e a pen and notebook next to a desklight to give both size as well as context references).
Thus i am not saying either of Odinius or Rends overview shots were bad
... but that they can improve them by making some choices and doing something interesting with how they present their final work.
Rends with Tongue
Arghore@ Ah, gotchya. I'm not sure I can do anything different for the official contest seeing as there's less than 10 minutes left, but I'll consider trying some different shots for the unofficial once I've taken a break. We had bought a new camera for this and I think I was most focused on making sure I could see the object and its details without the shots coming out blurred. I definitely appreciate the suggestions/feedback though.
Thistle Xandra
@arghore: oops! read too fast and thought you were calling rend's messy, too, when I actually liked his set-up XD sorry about that!
Arghore
Well my wording was a bit confusing as I started with 'the same for rends' ... :P ... with which i meant the same as far as placement and choices for general view and details are concerned ... so yeah, no biggy 
... gave me a opportunity to spend some more words on it
Rends, nah don't start messing for the official contest, but seeing you got a new camera just go wild with it and give it a spin, then try and see if you can take my feedback and do something interesting for this workshop
Same for Odinious tbh. kick the kids outside and spend some time messing about with the pics you have, and remember 'less is more' ...
The practice you both can have here for a few hours untill the 22nd for this workshop will help you next year or on some other project, that's why this is a 'workshop' and not a 'contest', the emphasis is on improving through feedback
... gave me a opportunity to spend some more words on it Rends, nah don't start messing for the official contest, but seeing you got a new camera just go wild with it and give it a spin, then try and see if you can take my feedback and do something interesting for this workshop
Same for Odinious tbh. kick the kids outside and spend some time messing about with the pics you have, and remember 'less is more' ...
The practice you both can have here for a few hours untill the 22nd for this workshop will help you next year or on some other project, that's why this is a 'workshop' and not a 'contest', the emphasis is on improving through feedback
Noseless
Wow, I thought I submitted this reply already, apparently I switched tabs and forgot about it...
Well, seeing as the deadline went already, I won't be submitting my work to the official contest. Some things didn't work out as well as I hoped, and I didn't manage to figure out how to make up for that. I'll still be working on it, though. (And if it's about the prizes, I think the GWG contest has better ones anyway.
)
Well, seeing as the deadline went already, I won't be submitting my work to the official contest. Some things didn't work out as well as I hoped, and I didn't manage to figure out how to make up for that. I'll still be working on it, though. (And if it's about the prizes, I think the GWG contest has better ones anyway.
)
GeminiJuSa
@Noseless: You keep up the good work, the workshop is happy to see your progress ^^
Death By An Arrow
Now that the official contest has ended, here it is:
Details:
Acrylic Paint on 6 Cardboard Binder Inserts
51.75cm x 81cm
(21in x 34in approx)
titled: Confrontation
The photograph is iffy, so the levels are adjusted in PS and shtuff. Little glarey in parts but with a painting this size and the fact it cant be proped upright, was the best I could manage. Hope anet likes it!
Edit: Food for thought; here is my entry from last year. Think i've improved a teeeeency bit since then!
Details:
Acrylic Paint on 6 Cardboard Binder Inserts
51.75cm x 81cm
(21in x 34in approx)
titled: Confrontation
The photograph is iffy, so the levels are adjusted in PS and shtuff. Little glarey in parts but with a painting this size and the fact it cant be proped upright, was the best I could manage. Hope anet likes it!
Edit: Food for thought; here is my entry from last year. Think i've improved a teeeeency bit since then!
Rends with Tongue
>.> Does anyone know if there's a way of getting Anet the correct version of your contact information if something was not correct/accurate in your initial submission?
And the Contest FAQ says: " Incomplete entries are invalid, and entrants with incomplete entries will be disqualified." Does that mean if I didn't include my gamer handle, that I'll be disqualified? The wording in the rules made it sound like you only needed to include your handle if you wanted to be known by it rather than your name.
I got so focused on the just getting it on time that I feel like I fudged up so many small things.
And the Contest FAQ says: " Incomplete entries are invalid, and entrants with incomplete entries will be disqualified." Does that mean if I didn't include my gamer handle, that I'll be disqualified? The wording in the rules made it sound like you only needed to include your handle if you wanted to be known by it rather than your name.
I got so focused on the just getting it on time that I feel like I fudged up so many small things.
Death By An Arrow
As far as I know, the handle is not necessary. The necessary info is First/Last name, Age, Mailing address, email, and ofcourse the art. The handle is totally optional.
Its essentially if you win do you want "Rends with Tongue" or "John Doe" to appear under your piece? Doesnt change if they want it or not.
Its essentially if you win do you want "Rends with Tongue" or "John Doe" to appear under your piece? Doesnt change if they want it or not.
Rends with Tongue
Death by an arrow@ Ah, ok. Well I think that my e-mail auto-filled my address with a relative's; while it's local, I don't want things to get kicked back to me because of it.
Death By An Arrow
Like your mailing address? I think thats more so for purposes they have somewhere to send any prizes won. So if it is a relative of yours, it simply means that after you fill out the paperwork they email you (ive never recieved it, so i dont know what its about) you just have to pick it up from them.
I think. :/
I think. :/
Rends with Tongue
Hm. I just didn't want them to think I was a scammer or something since my girlfriend and I both live together and submitted separate works. She of course was better at filling in her details than I was. :/
Arghore
Well as promised my send in piece, little warning it is 1.7mb in size and fairly huge, so do think about hitting that spoil button...
Meyrcaitia
crap I forgot to give anet my age >_> oh well I guess... they shouldn't be asking women their ages anyway... Don't they know the rules?!?!
I finished my costume at about 10 am and just woke up cause my niece is a brat :P
here it is ^___^
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~Meyrcaitia
I finished my costume at about 10 am and just woke up cause my niece is a brat :P
here it is ^___^
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~Meyrcaitia
KiyaKoreena
@Death By An Arrow I think it is a big improvement over last year. Good job!
Shewmake
@Rends With Tongue: The statue looks excellent, I just wish you would have uploaded/submitted a video instead to show the dry ice in action! The whole tube emitting dry ice thing is an awesome concept, but unless people saw your post in this thread about that mechanism, it's hard to tell that it even comes from the statue with just a static image.
@Odinius: So much stuff, and it all looks great! I've enjoyed seeing your progress. The final image, though, is too cluttered, I think. I wanted to see the entire set complete, but all the individual images scattered around that large image makes it hard to really get a feel for the set's brilliance.
Oh and all of the costumes are awesome!
@Odinius: So much stuff, and it all looks great! I've enjoyed seeing your progress. The final image, though, is too cluttered, I think. I wanted to see the entire set complete, but all the individual images scattered around that large image makes it hard to really get a feel for the set's brilliance.
Oh and all of the costumes are awesome!
Draken Burst
Good luck everyone.
Minami
Since I'm on a roll with learning SAI, I'm starting a Wintersday picture now.
We'll be quite busy in December, so it's extra good to have it done before.
I'll save progress screenies as well.
@Kiya: Remember the idea from last year? Well, I'm gonna be doing it now Yay!
We'll be quite busy in December, so it's extra good to have it done before.
I'll save progress screenies as well.
@Kiya: Remember the idea from last year? Well, I'm gonna be doing it now
Yay!
Odinius
I think that you nailed the real problem there Shew: "So much stuff".
The complete set is 24" wide and 16" high and still too small to give each item a proper display.
There were even more items/characters coming untill I realized that they wouldn't fit the set.
Making only three or four shots of the set wouldn't show all the little detais I put in there and got a little carried away with wanting to show them all.
Having it as a physical display works far better because you can look around it and see new stuff from every angle.
That background though shouldn't be there looking at it now, usually I take about five different final images and choose carefully which to take and tweak before posting/submitting.
This year though with the early deadline looming, I frankly ran out of time a lot sooner than expected.
I finished the set about 11am(Europe) and set up for shots, but the camera I was using didn't work properly and had to go out to borrow one from a friend which after returning home only worked for about 10 shots before the battery died.
Ended up taking shots with the Iphone and selected everything I wanted in the final image.
It took me about an hour for that final collage and it was already 3:30 pm here and I had to leave for work at 4pm (still 5 hours before the deadline, but no chance for me to work on it)
Not completely happy I thought, oh well it's this or nothing and submitted.
For wintersday I'll try to make detailed but less stuff which can be focussed on certain angles to take better shots.
For now I'll revise my final shot for the workshop entry.
Thanks for all your positive feedback people!
The complete set is 24" wide and 16" high and still too small to give each item a proper display.
There were even more items/characters coming untill I realized that they wouldn't fit the set.
Making only three or four shots of the set wouldn't show all the little detais I put in there and got a little carried away with wanting to show them all.
Having it as a physical display works far better because you can look around it and see new stuff from every angle.
That background though shouldn't be there looking at it now, usually I take about five different final images and choose carefully which to take and tweak before posting/submitting.
This year though with the early deadline looming, I frankly ran out of time a lot sooner than expected.
I finished the set about 11am(Europe) and set up for shots, but the camera I was using didn't work properly and had to go out to borrow one from a friend which after returning home only worked for about 10 shots before the battery died.
Ended up taking shots with the Iphone and selected everything I wanted in the final image.
It took me about an hour for that final collage and it was already 3:30 pm here and I had to leave for work at 4pm (still 5 hours before the deadline, but no chance for me to work on it)
Not completely happy I thought, oh well it's this or nothing and submitted.
For wintersday I'll try to make detailed but less stuff which can be focussed on certain angles to take better shots.
For now I'll revise my final shot for the workshop entry.
Thanks for all your positive feedback people!
UnOrthOdOx
Well, here was my final entry.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5...252520copy.jpg
I had considered making a collage of several shots, but ultimately just went with this one. Most other shots were closeups of various items in this vein:
Not sure it was the right decision. I do have some news that those birds that started eating it are now dead.
Still wish I could have got some pumpkins in.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5...252520copy.jpg
I had considered making a collage of several shots, but ultimately just went with this one. Most other shots were closeups of various items in this vein:
Not sure it was the right decision. I do have some news that those birds that started eating it are now dead.
Still wish I could have got some pumpkins in.
UnOrthOdOx
@ Odinius, I ADORE that little shadow guy holding the skull.
Shewmake
@Rends with Tongue: Ah, I got it. Shame it didn't work out the way you wanted, but it looks cool nonetheless.
@Aviator: If that's edited Assassin's Creed concept art, you're not gonna win anything in the official contest 'cause it's copyrighted. Just sayin'. Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me.
@Aviator: If that's edited Assassin's Creed concept art, you're not gonna win anything in the official contest 'cause it's copyrighted. Just sayin'. Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me.
Aviator The Hunter
Yes, I was told that this wallpaper was hand made.. Nvm removed.. Will post another soon.
Tommy's
Good luck in the contest everyone! Hope we see some people from guru finding glory on the official website once again!
satomz
I didn't make it to the official contest, so GL x1000 to everyone who did! I'm still in it for the workshop though.
Real life... Why does it always get so busy right before these things are due... I was also having trouble making the tonics and alcohol bottles, so that's another "meh."
I was being frustrated with RL and bottle making and a little disappointed that I didn't make it to the official contest, so I decided to draw something to kill the stress off and have some fun. Next thing I realize, I have something that could pass for an entry (though it's still unfinished). I might actually stick with this drawing instead.
WIP Gallery: http://imageshack.us/g/220/gwhalloweencontest11cop.jpg/
I currently have 2 versions: one with wings in the front (consistent with costume design), and one without wings (can see costume better). I'm not sure which one looks better, so if someone could give me some input on those, that'll be helpful.
Reminder to self: I need to tell my boyfriend that I used his necro for entry...
x1000 to everyone who did! I'm still in it for the workshop though. Real life... Why does it always get so busy right before these things are due... I was also having trouble making the tonics and alcohol bottles, so that's another "meh."I was being frustrated with RL and bottle making and a little disappointed that I didn't make it to the official contest, so I decided to draw something to kill the stress off and have some fun. Next thing I realize, I have something that could pass for an entry (though it's still unfinished). I might actually stick with this drawing instead.
WIP Gallery: http://imageshack.us/g/220/gwhalloweencontest11cop.jpg/
I currently have 2 versions: one with wings in the front (consistent with costume design), and one without wings (can see costume better). I'm not sure which one looks better, so if someone could give me some input on those, that'll be helpful.
Reminder to self: I need to tell my boyfriend that I used his necro for entry...
Sura
@satomz
The poses of your characters are really awesome! I especially like his hand on her back, therefore i think you should go for the wing-less version! I think a bit of creative freedom on the costume is allowed
@Death By An Arrow
Your finished painting looks awesome! The colours and the pose are very nice!
The poses of your characters are really awesome! I especially like his hand on her back, therefore i think you should go for the wing-less version! I think a bit of creative freedom on the costume is allowed
@Death By An Arrow
Your finished painting looks awesome! The colours and the pose are very nice
!
Star_Jewel
Fuuuuhhhh.... I had a really long message all typed out and accidentally hit...some hotkey combo that closed my browser. 
Okay....
@satomz: I also think the wingless version is better, making his hand on her back clearer that this is a moment of intimacy. Before I saw that one, I was uncertain if he was pulling her close or fixing to attack her with that green glowy magic.
Also, try lidding his eyes a little so it appears that he's looking down at her, further enhancing the intimacy. Right now, he's looking somewhere over the top of her head.
Lastly, if you stick with the wingless version, try uncrooking her right arm a little (so that only the back of her upper arm is visible), which will make it appear more like she's pulling him close, too. Right now, both her elbows are in a bit of a "pushing away" position (the left one is fine, though, taking into account body angle).
Okay....
@satomz: I also think the wingless version is better, making his hand on her back clearer that this is a moment of intimacy. Before I saw that one, I was uncertain if he was pulling her close or fixing to attack her with that green glowy magic.
Also, try lidding his eyes a little so it appears that he's looking down at her, further enhancing the intimacy. Right now, he's looking somewhere over the top of her head.
Lastly, if you stick with the wingless version, try uncrooking her right arm a little (so that only the back of her upper arm is visible), which will make it appear more like she's pulling him close, too. Right now, both her elbows are in a bit of a "pushing away" position (the left one is fine, though, taking into account body angle).
bebe
Everyones art is looking awesome.. and i'm still very not motivated at all.. lol.. I might have to withdraw from the contest.. not sure just yet.. )=
Death By An Arrow
So we were out and about today at the craft store (my brother is making his girlfriend an ewok costume for her dog, who is quite honestly an ewok. She growls like an ewok, looks like an ewok. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...) and they had framses for 40% off. If my painting had been JUST smaller (16x20in) I could have gotten a super fancy mahogany red/black wooden frame for even cheaper than what I got (they were the same price, but 50% off). Ohwell, still looks nice. need to matte it though.
I think the part of this piece i'm most proud of is I didn't use pure black once, outside of the necklace. Something i know is a good thing but always tell myself "No, its okay. it looks good when you use it." Suck on that conscience!
Edit: When should we expect the results? Does anyone remember the time between last year's deadline to the announcement? I know Charlie delayed it by quite a bit, but they should be ready this time so it should be even sooner. I'm only a little excited :|
I think the part of this piece i'm most proud of is I didn't use pure black once, outside of the necklace. Something i know is a good thing but always tell myself "No, its okay. it looks good when you use it." Suck on that conscience!
Edit: When should we expect the results? Does anyone remember the time between last year's deadline to the announcement? I know Charlie delayed it by quite a bit, but they should be ready this time so it should be even sooner. I'm only a little excited :|
Arghore
you should put a black paper thing around it ... which i don't know the english name for, nor the dutch atm :/ ... but it basically covers the edges to 'frame' any art within the frame ... that would prolly look great
Death By An Arrow
Arghore, that's the matting I said I needed This is it's sort of temporary state until I can get some. I don't know if I need a big black sheet, or if it would be cheaper to get a border of it instead (i.e. a full sheet vs. a sheet with a rectangle cut outof the middle).
This is it's sort of temporary state until I can get some. I don't know if I need a big black sheet, or if it would be cheaper to get a border of it instead (i.e. a full sheet vs. a sheet with a rectangle cut outof the middle).
Arghore
A border that it... /doh ...
Penguin oO
Thistle Xandra
ugh... I fail... I wrote a long response to everyone's post and then must not have hit submit and lost it all >_<
Here we go again...
Finally finished my super long detailed progress gallery (I made it like a diary I could go back and reminisce on) so here's my final entry:
Here we go again...
Finally finished my super long detailed progress gallery (I made it like a diary I could go back and reminisce on) so here's my final entry:
Next up is Razah's story before the deadline
@ penguin: Just wanted to again say how awesome your piece is XD
@DBAA: that looks great framed! I usually prefer mattes over back background so that the art/piece isn't actually touching the glass.
@satomz: I like the second one too
@unorthodox: sooooo cool... sux about the birds though
@odinius: I prefered the way you presented your little pics last year with a black background over the pic. I think that's what made last years look uncluttered while this one seemed cluttered. Irregardless, I really liked the little pics since it let us see all the details you put in
@minami: awesome idea starting your wintersday entry early! I was thinking of trying to make a quilt (never done one before and don't know how, lol), so I think I'll try to start early, too
@Meyrcaitia: cute cosplay! I also grumbled on the age thing XD
OK, post, please go through XD