2011 Halloween Workshop!

KiyaKoreena

KiyaKoreena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Kirins of Holy Light

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@UnOrthOdOx: The base was a garbage bag filled with grocery bags (yay for not remembering to take them for recycling yet! ), then taped a bit and wrapped with yarn to make the bumps/dips.
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Started on the corset again. I have made a mockup with some old cheap fabric (hehehe... pink and purple mushrooms) and am taking a different approach for the jagged peaks at the top. It looks like it will work out better this time so tomorrow I will transfer it to the good fabric. Going to bed early tonight and starting with a clear head in the morning.

Draken Burst

Draken Burst

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2008

Flordia

[EPIC]

D/A

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@Draken Burst: How many hues of brown did you use for his skin? Do you work it in layers? Thanks for sharing the progress, and nice para. ^^ I usually use 3 hues for any area I'm coloring, for the skin I used Brown, light brown and peach.

The first layer is usually the peach, leaving highlighted areas white. Then I add the light brown to all the shadow areas, and then the brown to contrast the shadow a little more.

Its hard to actually so progress of this for me because I jump around from area to area when coloring lol. Thanks though!

Ravenhawk

Ravenhawk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2009

Eon

Me/N

Wow people..so much amazing updates. I apologize for my short and generic response, I have been super busy with RL lately and not to mention getting hit by Art Block..(great timing..)

Anyhow, I uploaded a few progress in my gallery but this one is the latest. I fixed Murke's hat as per one of the critiques. That was a good catch. It looks so much better now. And yeah the two people on the right hand side at the back are supposed to be further away.

I changed the background to something simpler. I don't like the cluttered look of the haunted house thingy. But we'll see. At this point I should be decided on the bg already oh wells! I am trying to chug along, slowly..also the colors are crappy , they shall be fixed.

Minami

Minami

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2008

Dallas, TX. USA

Not in any guild at the moment

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@Raven: I love your piccie! Especially the pumpkin hugging bear!

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Soooo
Here I made my middle layer visible, so you can see where I'm trying to go. I had it hidden cause it confuses me.
The little thing on the bottom is like an altar of some sorts, with incense burners, candles, skulls, etc.

Lineart should be done for the girls. Hope I won't find something sucky D:
Also just FYI, this is supposed to be in a style of some sort of mix between anime and normal... Not sure about the style, I'm just going with what I feel for.

I might still make changes with details before coloring, but it's close to being there.

EDIT: Oh and I forgot to say that the lines thickness is not there yet... This is the simple bland linework

Rapturous Sauerkraut

Rapturous Sauerkraut

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2011

Alaska

People for the Ethical Treatment of Quaggan [PETQ]

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Raven, like Minami said, the bear is great xD

the female lich is perfect, too. Is she slapping the blond to her right?

Minami, it looks rad. Hope you get it done soon

I'm half-done now. Good thing I wrote Chapter 2 (not that the four chunks of my story deserve to be called chapters) instead of catching up in calculus.

Read! Comment! Please?

Prologue: The Crying Pumpkin Inn

A huddle of nervous men stood in a pumpkin patch, almost invisible in the cloudy night. An inn stood next to the patch. Bright, merry lights shone inside, offering warmth and safety to passersby on this most cold and dangerous of nights: the night of Hallow’s Eve. As the candles flickered and the fire was stoked, the men outside just shivered and murmured. They whispered old tales of supernatural fright, leaning close to the speakers to catch their words from the strong east wind. All the time they spoke, one at least was peering over at a prostrate form on the pumpkin patch’s fence. It looked to be a spindly man, thrown and broken against the fence. His heavy round head lolled against his chest, moving now and then in accordance with the wind. This was no victim of bandits nor sickly traveler, though. This was the Pumpkin-Man of legend, the tragic jester of Thorn’s Lunatic Court.

It was four minutes till midnight when the Pumpkin-Man’s head began to glow. All the men drew torches and flint from their cloaks, to better see the famous figure. As they approached, the vines of the Pumpkin-Man’s body began to stiffen and straighten; though the head still drooped, the body rose until it stood at the height of a man. When they were still a stone’s throw back, the men stopped and raised their torches. “Hail, phantom! We come to hear the song of the Mad King’s fall, and the tragedy of his jester Chucol.” An eerie orange light filled the Pumpkin-Man’s squash of a head; pointed eyes and a jagged mouth were illuminated in his rounded face. The men saw the mouth widen in an awful grin, as countless tears poured from the undead eyes. The Pumpkin-Man’s voice came forth from that grin, high and raspy like dead leaves against stone.

“Ah. My dear mortals. By the Mad King’s command, I must fulfill this wish, whether ye will it or no.”

Chapter 1: Chortles and Chuckles

Carnival Day dawned bright and hot on Lion’s Arch. The weather was perfect: a light sea-breeze blew the heat from the city and the sweat from the party-goers. I was one of them, dressed in a dandy jester’s suit of purple and orange. A crowd of hundreds pressed close around me, every one of them trying to get a better view of the legendary fool on the high, circular stage. The King’s Stage, as it was called in those days, was empty and bare save for a flamboyant old man, my master. He was as well-known for his wild fashion as for his miming, jests, and acrobatics. He wore his third-favorite outfit: A tight, frilly three-piece suit, with a checkered pattern of yellow and sparkling pink. His wild white hair shone like the diamonds on his cuffs and collar. The sun flashed off his sequins as he danced a jig and sang a song of love between dwarf and charr. That song is long-forgotten, I’m afraid to say; undeath does nothing for one’s powers of memory.

I do remember that the commoners and nobility alike howled with glee at the old man’s warbling bass and flying feet. They could hardly breath for laughing! Indeed, a crew of healers with earmuffs was scattered through the crowd, ready to carry the over-hysteric away for a healing Potion of Melancholy. They were busy, too, especially at the end of the Song of Ashstrike and Lovehorn. Ah! There you have the song’s name, at least. Perhaps I’ll remember the rest, if I stick my mind to it. Anyway, those who hadn’t collapsed in merriment were chanting the old man’s name as he took an exaggerated bow with a devilish grin: “Chortul! Chortul!” Such was his name. Didn’t you wonder why Krytans call a good joke a chortle? Such was his reputation.

As always, the song and jig were the end of Chortul’s act. He winked at the audience and threw his head back. He reached deep into his throat and took hold of something, and the crowd gasped as he pulled it out: a beautiful orange rose. Chortul laughed at their shock and threw the rose into the air. The stem burst into green flame and the petals exploded into a massive cloud of confetti. When the wind cleared the stage of confetti, only a cinder of the stem remained; as the audience began to relax and laugh, I pushed my way to the front. A hidden passage opened in the stage’s side, and one of Chortul’s long, worn fingers beckoned from the darkness within. Those few that could see the door and the disembodied finger shouted in surprise, but before they could move, I blew a raspberry at the dopes and slipped into the darkness.

“Well, well, m’boy, your opening act didn’t go off half as bad as it did in rehearsal. To be frank, I expected you to explode the drake again. Although, to be fair, your tidiness covered in beast-guts is funnier by far than the joke’s real punchline. Get me wine, won’t you? Oh! Could you see the Great Prick from where you stood? Was he laughing enough? Was he mad, or merely insane? What of his consort? Did she laugh for the jokes or to keep Thorn company? By Lyssa’s lying lips, you know as well as I do we’re dead if she says a bad word of us. We ought to get that Elonian hag burnt. You’d think it easy enough, from the others.” He was always like that: on-stage, the very definition of deliberation and ease; backstage, manic and a bit dangerous. I smiled weakly, overwhelmed at the rush of thought. “I’ll get you water, not wine, master. Gods know you had enough this morning.” He snorted as I began to walk away. “Don’t dodge questions with insults, child. How’d King Prick like the show?” Though I had turned away, I could almost feel his fearful look on my back. I couldn’t bear it. “Master, I believe that he thought that, well, the King of Kryta, that is, the Prick, as you call him, was of the opinion that your show, well, I think thoughtfully that I ought to think that his thinkful thoughts of your show were rather like a thought that your worried thoughts thought he might have thought.”

Chortul chortled miserably as he sank against the tunnel wall. We were in a sort of sub-stage cellar, you see. There were a few dressing-rooms, several storage rooms, a pantry, and a long tunnel that linked them all. Lyssan Doors (that is to say, a sort of door that is only visible if you’ve had a very particular charm of disdelusion placed upon you) led into this basement from each direction; we were in the main tunnel, which joined all the rooms and entrance tunnels together. Architecture hardly matters, though. I speak of my beloved old master, as he slumped in cheery despair against the masonry. When he had laughed his fear away, he spoke. “Dear apprentice, you complicate a simple bit of bad news as though you tell me Nightfall’s nigh. Get me that water. We’ve got an aristocracy to entertain tonight, do we not? Besides, Thorn’s wrath at my out-joking him might not last. We’ll stay out of the capital until next Carnival, and pray to the Duality that news of our act doesn’t reach the monarch’s ears. Even then, there’s Vabbi. I heard that those idiotic, nomadic merchants have a keen appreciation for theater.”

I hurried away, eager to get the old man’s spirits to a proper state for the finale of Carnival. That night alone, we’d been paid to attend a dozen different parties thrown by the bloated nobility. All were excited by the prospect of revelry and mischief, especially in the face of peasant revolts and war with Istan. Though they were loath to admit it, the aristocrats were running short on loyal troops to keep the rabble down, and shorter still on gold to keep the disloyal troops content. Hopeless though they were, the merrymaking leeches of Kryta were Chortul’s patrons, and he was mine. So we sold them happiness at an exorbitant fee, even as serfs withheld taxes and butchered the collectors. Peasants made stew of bark and fingernails while we tossed crème brûlée to the hounds. I speak high-mindedly now, but smothering my morals was easy enough when we rode the coattails of Kryta’s elite.




Chapter 2: The High Life

What tails they were! That week – the week of Carnival – was the last shining moment of King Thorn’s regime. The kingdom’s painful decline had only just begun; the Lunatic Court was yet merely whimsical. All the courtiers slept by day and leapt to when the sun set. Then they donned fineries beyond compare, crafted by the greatest artisans of Vabbi and Kaineng. Gilded lace graced the ladies’ giant dresses, and onyx buttons studded the drakeleather vests of gentlemen. Exotic dyes and wild ornaments turned the nobles to peacocks, but never had a peacock looked so dignified. Those days were the very zenith of high fashion. In the strife that followed, all was torn to ribbons. I’ve heard that fashion has since returned to the land of Kryta, but every noble in the land dresses like a peasant who’s won the lottery.

For shame, I digress! Chortul and I had not the funds to be peacocks. We changed into appropriate attire as best we could. Lime-green and rust-orange spangled with black are the high-brow jester’s colors, and such we wore. Our first engagement was in the luxurious mansion of Lord Eastbury. He was a good fellow, old and swollen with drink, and I’m sorry to say they burnt him alive when the monarchy imploded. That night, though, he was the merriest man in the court. He’d called on us to perform the Mime’s Demise, a challenging trick even for Chortul. I fortunately remember it; perhaps it’s still performed, appropriately for these gory days. One mime kneels, as if about to be executed by decapitation. The other wields a mighty axe of air, framing the heavy blade with his hands. When the second performer knocks off the head of the first, the decapitee must quickly pull his shirt up to cover his head completely, and mime the retrieval of his fallen skull. There’s too much of that act to tell here, but I assure you, it brought the house down. Well. Strictly speaking, a drunken geomancer caused an earthquake, which brought the roof down, but that’s beside the point.

Thanks to a most dignified stampede, all escaped unharmed. Chortul stood surrounded by a little audience, singing of the folly in magic mixed with liquor. Nobles stood straight and proud, chattering amongst their cliques, as liveried servants hastily dusted them off. Lord Eastbury bustled from one corner of his ruined house to another, putting on a great show of nonchalance at the rubble. The geomancer followed him, slurring apologies and twisting his hands. Eastbury fumed quietly, doing his best to placate the drunk. “Thank you, Mage Trykin! I’d have had to hire a team of dwarves to bring the place down if you hadn’t come along. No, really, you mustn’t apologize. What? Those old sculptures by Malchor? Paltry things. Everyone knows he was mediocre at best. Go on home, Trykin. I’ll have a carriage brought for you. Yes, yes, sleep it off. Go on.” The mage stumbled away as Eastbury glared, cursing under his breath.

Not long after, Chortul ended his song and called to me, pointing to a house-sized pumpkin drawn by dozens of black horses. I laughed nervously, scarcely believing my eyes, but I was only seeing the famous carriage of Countess Hakewood. It was hewn from the bole of a maguuma tree at great cost: rumor held that the Countess tripled her taxes to pay the craftsmen. Chortul laughed at my surprise and slapped me on the back, saying “Come now, young’un. We’ve got a ride to catch to our next gig. You ready for the Vabbians?” I muttered something about heket. What was it? It was clever. Why can’t I remember the best parts of this tale? I used to. Forgive me, persistent listener, and desert me not, for we’ve not yet reached my tragedy.

We climbed into the carriage behind Hakewood herself. I’d never been so close to King Thorn’s favorite before. She was beautiful, even in her latter years. Indeed, save for the Countess’ hooked nose and dark eyes, she was fair as Dwayna. As we settled onto a curved couch, she looked to my master with a laugh in her eyes. “Ah, the jester. Is the Muse kind to you as ever, Chortul?”

“The Muse? Lyssa is never kind, milady. Surely you know Her ways? She has lifted me to great heights – even into your esteemed presence – only to giggle at my longer fall.” The Countess laughed darkly. “You’ve heard that your doom is close, then? Perhaps you’re not as witless a wit as I thought.” Chortul blanched and I gulped. She laughed again; it was almost a cackle. “So it is, fool. Thorn grows jealous of your fame. I’m afraid he might be goaded on by some of his nobles. Why, just last night, I told him that your charms could drag me from his bed! You’re only lucky he doesn’t know what you call him. Rather, you’re lucky I’ve yet to tell him. You’re a damned fool, old man. My Thorn will keep his monopoly on Kryta’s laughter, or your head shall roll.” She laughed once more, and this time, it was a true cackle, a hysteric shriek that shook the carriage walls. The lesser courtiers, who’d been politely ignoring Hakewood’s indiscretion and making small talk, cringed and covered their ears. Neither Chortul nor Hakewood spoke. She reclined with elegance, still grinning maliciously. He folded his limbs and leaned against me, whispering “This is the last night of the high life for us, dear boy. Pray you won’t fall as far from it as I.” His voice quavered; I couldn’t believe, nor can I now, that Jester Chortul the Hearty, the Lucky, the Loved, was resigned to his end.

Though the ride from Eastbury’s estate was long, it passed in silence. I dozed, knocking my head against the wall with each pothole the carriage struck. Back then, in Kryta’s Good Old Days, the roads were rough. Now? Well, it’s no wonder the rich stay in the cities. The moon had begun its descent when we reached the Vabbian Embassy.

Even then, when the legendary mines of Ahdashim were but a year old, the Vabbian Embassy was among the richest buildings in Kryta. Murals of famous merchants and actors covered the marble walls, sparkling with gems. Krytans mingled and admired the artistry as Vabbian diplomats explained the investment opportunities in their homeland, giving out trade contracts like candy. New arrivals from Eastbury’s ruin of a party streamed in, reveling in the story of the Lord’s misfortune. Chortul walked ahead of me, his head bowed. The moment he passed the threshold, all his morbid fears were brushed away. Greeting friends and patrons in jubilant tones, Chortul transformed from a weary joker to Lyssa’s own avatar.

While Chortul wound his sociable way through the crowd, I took the stage and whipped a flute from my billowing hose. Heads turned from all the room as I struck a tune I’d heard Vabbian travelers whistle or sing. The Vabbians began to dance, but the Krytans stood, not knowing how to join in. I stayed my course as the awkward Krytans began to look annoyed. Without a moment’s warning, Chortul cartwheeled onto stage, bursting into the melody of an old Krytan waltz. We improvised and compromised, till Vabbian and Krytan wove together in an easy harmony. Then the Krytans took to the floor and the revelry began in earnest.

Our act went on and on, changing from music to comedy and miming to acrobatics, and then to music again. With every hour another giggling pair of party-goers slipped out of the main hall, complimenting Kryta’s highest festival with joyous debauchery. When the sun’s first light entered the windows, we left the embassy and went on to my master’s other social duties. From the mighty Queens of Elona to lowly Baron Beetletun we went, and never again did Chortul waver. Not until high noon did the riotous parties end. Then we stumbled back to the Prancing Dolyak, an inn not ten minutes’ walk from the King’s Stage, and took our rest still dressed.
I woke to a blaring fanfare outside our window. Chortul was lying on his back, his eyes closed. He seemed to be praying; perhaps he had been since we took to bed, for I’d dreamed of him pleading with an image of the Twins, an indescribable and ever-changing form he called Muse. What did he plead for? I know not, but I’ve fair basis to guess. So will you, if in listening you persist.

A voice cried out from below, “Open thy ears, O Jester Chortul! Great King Thorn, Lord of Kryta, bids thee make ready for his presence! Your Liege shall deign to visit thee in this humble inn. Make thyself worthy of his sight by the sun’s setting!”

Chortul sighed. “Do you know what this day is, o apprentice mine?” I looked over. His eyes were still closed, and his pointed face was as calm as ever I’d seen it. I shook my head. “’Tis Hallow’s Eve, Chucol. The Necromancer’s Night is close at hand, and the power of all Gods is waning, excepting that of clammy Grenth. When the Grinning Moon is full, then His power will be at its fullest. I’m afraid Lyssa’s aid will not suffice tonight. Nor will yours.” At this his eyes snapped open; he rose to his elbows, and looked to me as tears ran down his cheeks. “Tonight, you will leave me. When the Mighty Prick enters this inn, you must be hidden.” Still drowsy, I was confused. “Master, why not leave now? You… You’re Kryta’s best Mesmer. Can’t we escape, by speed or illusion? There’s money in our bags to buy a ship to Orr, or Istan, or even Cantha. Thorn’s arm isn’t so long as that.” He shook his head. “I told you: the power of all Gods is waning tonight. Lyssa herself might escape our necromantic King’s clutches, but her servants cannot. I cannot. The Prick’s own guards surround this inn, and Grenth’s blessings are on each of them. At best, we’d be cut down as we ran. At worst, we’d be reanimated and made to serve the King for eternity.” I frowned. “Eternity? Surely not –“

“The Prick is no mere mortal man, Chucol. He offered his mind and soul to Grenth, and Grenth, in an odd humor, took the offer and gave Thorn power over death. Not Death; no, only death. Nor is he a Lich, not quite. His power is less, but his endurance greater. One so cursed could rule all Tyria, if he had his reason. Fortunately, Thorn is utterly mad – thanks in part to Lyssa’s disapproval of his deal with Grenth – and his dominion will never extend beyond Kryta. In fact, his end is not so far off. Heh. We’ll have an Undead Prick to deal with. Heh. Rigor mortis.” With that wisdom, my master went to sleep, and I was left bewildered.

I changed into a commoner’s clothes and left the inn, trying to understand Chortul’s doom and mine. The sun was yet an hour from setting. As Chortul had warned, soldiers in the black and orange uniform of King Thorn had occupied the inn’s common room and made a perimeter outside the building. They let me pass without comment, but they whispered behind me. Two especially vicious men tailed me, always a stone’s throw behind. I merely wandered the streets, strewn with Carnival’s wreckage. Hardly anyone was out of doors, and those that were staggered with brutal hangovers. I thanked Dwayna’s prudence for keeping me from drink the night before, though Tyria’s best booze had lain before me. Jesters, despite popular belief, are not boozehounds. We’re merely gluttons.

Near the hour’s end, I hastened back to join my master. He still slept, giggling in his sleep. Though we were past hope, I could only smile at the mischievous old face. I sat on my bed, watching the sleeping jester, as ironshod feet entered the inn. Abruptly, Chortul awoke, though his laughter didn’t end. He heaved a merry sigh and smiled at me. “To the closet with you, young Chucol. Our time is short. The Muse strengthened me in sleep, and so at least I’ll go with a fight. Get in, fool of a fool!” I went into the little closet, snapping the door behind me. From the other side, I heard Chortul speak quietly, “Plug your ears if things get rough. Lyssa’s own humor is my sole weapon, and I’m afraid I will must use it without reserve.”
At last, the iron boots reached our door. I cowered in the closet’s corner as they entered and went to the middle of the room. I could only imagine my master, standing straight and tall, staring into the bloodshot eyes of Mad King Thorn. The King’s fell voice filled the room.

“Give me your jokes, jester.”

Chapter 3: My Own Master
Chapter 4: Into the Pumpkin Vines
Epilogue

UnOrthOdOx

UnOrthOdOx

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/E

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@UnOrthOdOx Hope it does the trick, decapitation is serious business!
You got me curious what their role next year wil be.
Sorry, missed this.

Next year, we are making them into Transi. A medieval art concept better known as cadaver tombs.

Odinius

Odinius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

[OBEY]

N/R

@UnOrthOdOx Just checked Transi out on google and it looks spooky, your cadavers will do nicely!


Started on the dry bones that decorate the base of the throne and finished my black widow (as you can see, she is modeled after the HoM concept art instead of the GW1 ingame model), she's just soooo cute :P

Minami

Minami

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2008

Dallas, TX. USA

Not in any guild at the moment

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@Odinius: OMG, that spider looks fantastic! I loathe spiders like there's no tomorrow, but I'd decorate our fireplace's mantel with that critter!

EDIT: Can we get a tutorial/short rundown on how you did the spider?
And how come it's so awesomely shiny?

stouda01

stouda01

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Czech Republic-Prague

[LUST]

R/

i hate spiders and any other gross ass multi-legged insect but i have to admit, that's actually one pretty sexy spider

Arghore

Arghore

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

Tyria, Catacomb dweller..

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I love spiders, seeing they eat other gross ass flying insects, so i have to point out the spider misses 4 eyes?, otherwise though, that's actualy one pretty sexy spider

Arghore

Arghore

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

Tyria, Catacomb dweller..

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@RavenHawk, i like the joyfull composition but there is a lot of black and grey in that shot which gives it an overall bland look. Using different highlight can bring 'up' some of the darkness, but if you can i would advice you to add some more color in ... after a quick look i can see there is hardly any green or blue in there, these would be nice colors for the armors of the two dudes in the front ... and another thing that might make the piece more interesting is using a well thought out light direction and using highlights and shades to liven up the drawing.

There is another reason i feel slightly disappointed by your choosen composition, because i had something similar in mind :P ... i will analyse your picture and decide where to differentiate

Draken Burst

Draken Burst

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2008

Flordia

[EPIC]

D/A

@RavenHawk The anatomy of the hands and arms throughout the picture look kind of disproportionate and off, almost rubbery. Might want to check out some tutorials. Adding some highlights or brighter colors will make it appear less dull aswell. Others than that it looks good.

stouda01

stouda01

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Czech Republic-Prague

[LUST]

R/

ok im done sketching..i think

Rapturous Sauerkraut

Rapturous Sauerkraut

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2011

Alaska

People for the Ethical Treatment of Quaggan [PETQ]

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Could I recruit an editor for my submission? I'll bake you cookies if I have to.

@Stouda, it looks great. I like the horseman, although his back left leg makes him look off-balance. What's the little creature in the lower right hand corner, under the ghoul?

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

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kjasdasdankljasdasd so clearly my post from yesterday didnt send through :S

So it turns out that the ONLY day (One Day. 1. Singular) I have left to work on my painting without school/work occupying my whole day is monday (canadian thanksgiving... hooray ). I thought I had wednesday too, but It turns out... I work wednesday. Q____Q So I'm going to have to resort to a few long nights this weekend between working and thanksgiving out of towning. :/ This is really not looking good for time, if only it was the same date as last time.

Anywho, I'll try and respond to some things.

Odinius - somuch... all the... guh... GUHHHH. so nice. it looks so good As mentioned, most spiders have 4 eyes. (well, two eyes and then two light sensory organs... but those are semantics) Unless the fourth eye is hard to see, but there? Theres something i might think is the 4th eye, but im not sure. oh well

Gemini - I really like the third one. Not only is it more than just the character, but it isn't at an angle that makes me feel awkward looking at it. The first two give off thise sense that I'm standing either right infront of them and looking down or I'm above them. Which just seems... strange. It wouldnt make a good scene. But the third one is more open and welcoming to a background. Too avoid making the third one too flat though, perhaps you could adjust her so that she is still open and scenic while at the same time multi-dimensional? :S

Kiya - that costume is looking so good so far. The head reminds me of a reduced version of last year's costume

Rends - its looking good! Im so glad we've got multiple people using modelling clay this year. Are you (and odinious as well) using tools to make sure it appears smooth? Ive always wondered how thats achieved.

Mina - The blond guy on the right should be more obviously holding the head/mask. It took me a second to realize the mask was in fact not a floating head, due to the armor mixing in with the area around it. But its looking good composition wise

Minami - yay you are entering! excited to see what you create.

Stoudah - awesome, I like how each post the paper seemingly gets bigger. I know its a sketch, so its acceptabley messy, but I dont think I understand whats happening in the scene. What I see is a human crouched by a cauldron with MKT's essence floating out, and then from left to right a necrid horseman, hand of _______, and a reaper? Im sure it will become much, much clearer as it progresses though.

bebe

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

Hmm.. Having problems with ideas on my entry.. any limitations on what we can use for an entry? I kinda have a idea on using this game I play to create something on it for my contest entry....... :x

Maio

Maio

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2011

Washington state

E/Mo

Not sure if I will join in the contest but this is just a little sketchy I did, since I found my tablet pen.

Sura

Sura

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2011

Austria

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@odinius
That spider looks fantastic!! i hate spiders but i would put that lovely black widow on my desk

@Maio
You should definitely join, those sketches are awesome!

@GeminiJuSa
i would go for the first pose, it's a very nice angle .

@Ravenhawk
Your comments go in the spoilers

I really like your overall scene and layout, it's a lovely group-scene. But i think before going to the colouring stage you should adress some anatomical errors. Like Draken_Burst already commented the arms looks rubbery at some places. In my opinion that's mainly because the elbows are to round and smooth. In the image below i did some edits in the area inside the red rectangle (i hope you don't mind). I changed the shape of the upperarms a bit and made the elbow more pointed (after all there is a bone). I circeled some areas in the image where the elbows are too round as well. Another important point, since it's the focus of the image, is the Mad King's pointed hand. The hand's anatomy is really off, as you can see if you compare it to the photo reference. The girl in the middle is very much in the focus as well, so i couldn't help but notice that her breast look off. A girl's breasts do not start that far up (i edited the breasts in the red rectangle). Since her hand reaching for the guy is a very important part of the picture as well i would suggest using photo reference for it as well (or simply your own hand). Other than that i think if you start colouring at this point you make it harder for yourself. Coloring when the values are done is much easier, at least in my opinion. So all in all i hope you don't mind me scribbling over your image! I am very much looking forward to your finished image, because i really love group scenes ! Btw.: the bear is so lovely and cuddly!



I did some edits to my pic as well and somehow i really started disliking it . I don't know what exactly is wrong, maybe you guys can help me!
Here you go:

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@Arghore @Death by an Arrow

Thanks for your comments, I'm aware of the eyes but I made her after the HoM concept art and that one only has 4 as far as I can see (3 I think now after looking again).
I'll make some extra eyes though and see how they look on her.
Also the backpattern isn't that of an actual Black Widow it has a red hourglass on the bottom instead.
Edit: Looking yet another time I see I missed a joint on the legs, ah well too fragile to redo them

stouda01

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Stoudah - awesome, I like how each post the paper seemingly gets bigger. I know its a sketch, so its acceptabley messy, but I dont think I understand whats happening in the scene. What I see is a human crouched by a cauldron with MKT's essence floating out, and then from left to right a necrid horseman, hand of _______, and a reaper? Im sure it will become much, much clearer as it progresses though.

hai, i guess i could explain few things before it gets more um, viewer friendly. So the cauldron is actually way back in the scene, like on this screen:
except on halloween, when there's cauldron instead of fountain.
And that hand belongs to Grasping Ghoul, btw ive never noticed they had feather on their arms. Also that human is Magi Malaquire (or the generic old people of kryta skin) And basically everyone in that scene, except for Magi is running to the cauldron because Mad King is about to appear or something

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What's the little creature in the lower right hand corner, under the ghoul? That's frog in his halloween outfit

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Death by an arrow@ I mostly use my hands and rubbing alcohol w/ a paint brush or Q-tip. The alcohol is also useful for removing smudges and finger prints. Wet-sanding and buffing are also options for post-bake sculpey, for getting it smoother. There are tools you can use to make it flatter/smoother, but after looking at it again I decided to leave some of the grooves in and made sure to imprint plenty of subtle vertical lines with the fan brush for a good, stoney feel.

On another, semi-related note, I ended up widening the shoulders after realizing mine was looking a little thinner/sloped than the actual statue was. I only got one crack in it while baking (which is to be expected given how thick/large it is) but super glue will handle it well; I just need to do the face and shoulder pads and bake once more before gluing. When I accomplish this, I'll take another picture before painting begins. I also made some really neat halloween decorations to adorn the shrine with, so I'm excited about baking those as well.

Odinius@ That's a really cool tutorial. After the contest, I may just have to see about trying my hand at a spider of my own, so thank you for posting it. Really enjoying your progress so far. And even if your spider doesn't match up 100% to the IG one, I think the semblance is there which still gets the point across as to what it is -- which is an awesome-looking Black Widow!

Ravenhawk

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@Minami - Thanks. About your piccie, Looks great so far! Only critique I have is that the face of the girl on the left looks somewhat off. I think it's how her eye was positioned. Might need to be a little closer to the nose.

@Rapturous - Thanks. Well she's kinda slapping him because he stole her headdress. yeah more on that later lol

@Odin - Amazing. I can't wait to see the finished version.

@Arghore - Yep I agree. At the end of this post I am going to show you my two background options. Forgot to mention that I haven't added any ambient lighting/shadings yet ^^" My bad! I didn't know that we almost had the same idea. I am not surprised though because who else wouldn't think of Costumes when it comes to Halloween. I hope it works out for both of us!

@Draken - Thanks. I do have a confession to make - I did not use any pose references except for Mad King in this pic. I will fix the anatomy and all during the rendering process. Thanks for pointing them out. ^^

@stouda - Looks pretty epic so far. Can't wait to see the next stage.

@DBA - Haha yeah, hopefully when it's his turn for the clean up it would be more obvious. I also forgot to color the headdress so that may have contributed to it. lol


@Maio - that looks lovely! I hope you do join.


@Sura - Thanks so much. Oddly enough, I dont find it hard editing when it's colored because I like color picking (pressing alt in photoshop) and at this stage the foreground is one layer (all the figures in this case) so I paint over them. May not be the best method but this is what I am stuck with in this particular piece lol. So yep, I can apply those corrections without any problems (aside from my possible inability to fix them because of limited skills). And yeah as I mentioned to Draken, I did not use any pose references 'cept for Mad King so I expected some anatomical errors myself.

About your piece - It looks amazing but I think it may just be too dark/high contrast. Like there's too much black? Maybe experiment in more colors for the shadows and highlights. I say this not because I am an expert though. It's because this is also an issue I have with my own rendering and have been pointed out to me in the past (I am still working on it myself and been trying to correct them in my latest few paintings - halloween entry included)

Whew! Now for updates.

Okay here's my two background options. I also started rendering/detailing a little more -particularly Mad King, Ghost in the Box and a little bit of the mesmer (Raiment of the Lich...finally found a bigger reference it's insane how much details I missed in that costume haha). I'll apply the anatomy fixes I receive as I go along each figure.

Note that this are all just local colors atm and there are hardly any shadows/highlights. I'll add them towards the end *is all over the place*

First bg is halloweeny. Second doesn't make any sense except for a little bit of GW2 touch. Need your opinion which one is better (as well as other crits that you might come up with). Thanks in advance!




Odinius

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Netherlands

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I was supposed to finish His Royal Majesty today, but the kids have gotten their hands on some candy and went berserk from all the sugar lol.

Instead I updated the throne with all of them bones:



Now I'm off to the store and and work.
When I get home at midnight I'll try to make a start if I'm not too tired

KiyaKoreena

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Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

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Really crossing my fingers that I will have enough time this weekend to finish.




Did final layer last night. During my lunch break I will be sanding it down and beginning painting.



I changed my mind and went for the red.


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@Ravenhawk: The first background is immediately recognizable and I like that one best.

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I think I need to set up a screensaver on my comp again showing off all the wonderful works here.

Arghore

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@Sura, couple of things i noticed, first you should check your lightsource, if i'm correct and it comes from the right/bottom then the further side of the chair isn't lit correct, it is to merky and in need of highlights.

Second thing is more of a general comment, although i do like the picture for its beauty, there isn't much going on in it (but various cool details), so i would like to suggest to try and work some more things in there; one thing i thought off was to have the chair carried by minions. This still doesn't void the fact though that besides the pumpkin there isn't much going on that is halloween'y ... maybe you can try and make the necro look like she has her halloween costume on (skull mask or something and some other details) ... then with the minions added the picture might become more about a Necro 'queen' being carried to the Halloween ball by her minions...

Then some details, the pumpkin misses a green stump on top, this might sound trivial but seeing you worked in a lot of details in the chair, it is missing as a detail on the pumpkin. You might also want to check some reference on the armor the necro is wearing, i felt that her boots and skirt were hardly detailed in comparison with the rest of the picture; Perhaps you could use this current lack of detail to try and work in Halloween details to the armor.

I hope you do keep a like for this drawing though, it looks realy cool! but as said above, it needs more stuff to it


@ Ravenhawk, I would go with the bottom picture for a background, the misty one, as this one keeps attention on the front scene, the other might become to detailed for a background and take away from the front.

two things about 'shoulders' this time, and both concern the males in the front, first the guy on the left in red. His right shoulder seems to be missing now you wouldn't see much from it, and i dont know the armor/costume to the fullest, but my mind tells me i should see some of his shoulderpad (given there is one on the right side). Then the other guy on the right in black. His shoulder seems to be missing aswell, or rather, his arm seems like it's tacked right on the side of his neck, my feeling says it need to lower a tad and go a bit further to the right to make sense. (by a tad i mean about the distance of the first 'band' of his shoulder'pad' in the direction of the right bottom corner)

And don't worry i changed my whole scene, i wasn't going after the costumes though, but i was thinking of doing a similar groupshot but then with a GW2 flavour to it, all the races around Mad King, a sort of 'See you in GW2, with halloween'-shot. But as i started scetching the whole scene changed :P and now they are in a forest around a campfire, having a devourer tail halloween dinner, with some stuff going on in the back ^^ - so we are cool


@Odinius, i realy like your stuff, keep it up ^^ ... ah i see the spider reference now, so it looks ok, and i didn't miss the legparts tbh, it just looks like a real cool spider ^^
@Kiya, i realy like the red, it makes the whole dress 'pop', just one thing, do promise me that you wont set that mask on fire for the actual entry picture, hmk ! ... if anything it can be added in post processing photoshop


@In general, hmmm only 7 days left, not good, to much to be done so i better get started :/ ... i'll post some progress lateron ... also i wanted to remind you guys (and Verene in particular) to also let me know if you want a party after the whole thing is judged. I already asked gw-en if they would be willing, and i got a positive response (they actually loved the previous parties for the cool crowd you guys provide), so let me know and we can start planning a date and a place

Star_Jewel

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@Ravenhawk: I like the original background. I agree your "Halloween motif" one could steal focus. And the one with the GW figures blending in to it makes the BG a little...mm..."muddy"?

Have you considered just playing with the color levels of your fog? Picking a color that you don't use much in your character drawings (like green?) and tinting your fog that color?

Also, if you tune your greys to be different shades/depths, that might make the individual armors pop more.

Minami

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@Raven: Thanks. I know there's something wrong with her face, been trying to fix it while I was doing the line thicknesses. Hopefully I can start coloring today, and post a WIP as well.
Also, I would pick the second, smokey background for your pic. I love the shadows in there, very Halloween-y feel!

@Odinius: Wow, thanks for the tutorial! Really cool to see how something like that comes together! Clear nail polish, huh? And here I was thinking it's some special hard-to-find super duper clearcoat spray thing. It looks the part ^_^

Sura

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@Arghore and Ravenhawk: thanks a lot for the feedback! Your comments gave me the motivation to open the file again . I got rid of the contrast adjustment layer to lower to contrast and added some details and changed the colors yet again.

@Arghore: Your comments were very interesting and informative to me, thanks for that . I actually had the leg and skirt armor pretty detailed and true to the original armor design. And then i rage-deleted the file because i really hated it . I felt that the details made the picture too busy and unbalanced. It's my personal preference to have a clean and simple style. I added some details back in now, added two more minions (very sketchy so far) and some chains and cropped the image to get rid of all the dead space. I hope it's less boring now :s. The pumpkin and the far side of the chair are lacking at the moment, i know that. Those are areas which i haven't addressed at all so far.

I really have a hard time to capture a halloween feel as i actually never celebrated Halloween . All i could think of was pumpkins and skulls.



@Ravenhawk: i like the second, smokey background better! I think the first one draws the attention away from the figures. Moreover the colours clash with the figure-colours. I like that the second background gives the impression that there is a larger army in the back.

UnOrthOdOx

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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Still trapped under a curtain of rain here.

Entire month's worth of rainfall in 2 days, with rain/snow expected tonight, clearing up by Saturday.

Everything still stands, though, that plaster wrap is tougher than I expected. 50 MPH winds and rain, no problem.

Did get the decapitation and reposition done, but can't apply the color till the weather clears.


@ Ravenhawk, I prefer #2, but I'm colorblind, so that should be taken with a grain of salt.

Rends with Tongue

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@Odinius: Wow, thanks for the tutorial! Really cool to see how something like that comes together! Clear nail polish, huh? And here I was thinking it's some special hard-to-find super duper clearcoat spray thing. It looks the part ^_^ There are also common acrylic paints that can be used to give surfaces a pearl or matte finish; as well, there are glosses designed for polymer clays that are usually available in the same aisle as the clays. Clear nail polish is still a nifty solution, however!

stouda01

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Made some basic coloring to the whole piece and first details in mechant area.
Here's only the 'kinda finished bg stuff':

I hope i can finish painting the background tommorow max. I really want to have super detailed foreground

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Thistle Xandra

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Just stopping by real quick to say I updated my progress gallery for those following it

I've decided to go ahead and do the cosplay instead of just submitting a pic of the costume, so that means I need to be done by Sat at the latest so my hubby can help me get some day time pics on Sun :O Sooooo much stuff to do still D:

Once I'm done with my costume, I can help proofread some of the lit entries It's so awesome we have so many lit entries this workshop!

Arghore

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Join Date: Jun 2009

Tyria, Catacomb dweller..

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Name: Arghore
Art Form: Digital Painting
Idea: Cosy Halloween dinner with danger lurking
Progress Gallery: Instate one when i have more progress.
Real Life Prizes: [V]
Official Contest: [V]
Workshop Awards: [V]

There that takes care of my entry in the competition as i am well on my way

First scetch is done and I am already on my way of making it a reality ... just a quick A4 with pen, then scanned the image to make it digital...