Make them give out every festival hat, including dragon festival.
If you compensate those people for missing out, I want compensation for my missed dragon mask, too.
Halloween Festival Hat Giver
Ravenmaster
Rise of Cpu
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Make them give out every festival hat, including dragon festival.
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Reformed
On the one hand it's nice the staff has become more flexible over the years. On the other hand every time something like this happens it sets a precedent and rewards the behavior with appeasement. It's not a stretch to assume there will be a virtually identical thread after New Years in Riverside provided this change doesn't go into place for every hat giving event from now on.
drkn
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Some part of the playerbase is lucky that ANet decided to rush and give them a redux based on a natural, non ANet-dependant problem. But that's the same with people who couldn't be there for the Dragon Festival, Wintersday or anything else (for any non ANet-dependant reason, too). We had some floods in Poland and other central european countries during the Dragon Festival. And there was no NPC with hats back then...
While i understand ANet's tactics towards getting more happy players that will buy GW2 when it's done, they do so in an unfair way. It'd be better to just go totally aboard with the idea and set up an NPC offering ANY hats that your account was elligible to get at any point of its existence. Even for some plats.
Saldonus Darkholme
Oh, my freaking goodness, people! ANet is recognizing that due to circumstances beyond anyone's control, a large portion of the gaming community (The east coast of the United States) couldn't participate in an annual celebration. Since they're not doing a "Halloween Redux," they decide to give them the opportunity to at least get the special hats. What is so wrong about that? Yes, I know it's just for a silly group of pixels, but then, that's easy for ME to say since I was able to GET the silly group of pixels. Did they do it because a bunch of people griped about not getting it, or did they do it as a attempt to placate those players who missed the opportunity? I'm inclined to give ANet the benefit of the doubt, considering past experiences through the years. So, why in the world waste your time going on a bitchfest? They did something nice for a group of people. They didn't give them an in-game advantage, they just gave them an opportunity to get some hats. My goodness, give it a rest!
LordDragon
ArenaNet has done a good thing here. They are helping people that missed out, through no fault of their own, to get the 2011 Halloween hats.
Complaining does have its uses and I will vehemently complain at a restaurant if something is wrong with the food and/or service. My issue is that even with the snow storm this did not rise to the level of complaint. ArenaNet did not dump snow on the North East. It is not their fault.
Excrement occurs in life and not everyone can get everything that they want. It is just the way things are. I myself deleted one of my characters before the hat maker was put in the game. She was the only one with Horns of Grenth. I have all the GW hats that have ever come out except that one. It is my own fault so I don't complain. Am I disappointed? sure, not with ArenaNet but with myself.
Deal with it people, you are never ever going to get everything you want in life. If you are so upset about this (in either direction) you need to sit down and take a good long look at your life. I guess you really don't have many problems if something like, if there is or is not an event hat maker, gets your knickers in a twist.
Complaining does have its uses and I will vehemently complain at a restaurant if something is wrong with the food and/or service. My issue is that even with the snow storm this did not rise to the level of complaint. ArenaNet did not dump snow on the North East. It is not their fault.
Excrement occurs in life and not everyone can get everything that they want. It is just the way things are. I myself deleted one of my characters before the hat maker was put in the game. She was the only one with Horns of Grenth. I have all the GW hats that have ever come out except that one. It is my own fault so I don't complain. Am I disappointed? sure, not with ArenaNet but with myself.
Deal with it people, you are never ever going to get everything you want in life. If you are so upset about this (in either direction) you need to sit down and take a good long look at your life. I guess you really don't have many problems if something like, if there is or is not an event hat maker, gets your knickers in a twist.
St??phane Lo Presti
The Live Team is still working on this change, but we now know that the Festival Hat Givers will sell you the hats for Candy Corns and Pumpkin Cookies.
EDIT: the Hat Givers need 50 of these items for a hat.
EDIT: the Hat Givers need 50 of these items for a hat.
RedDog91
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The Live Team is still working on this change, but we now know that the Festival Hat Givers will sell you the hats for Candy Corns and Pumpkin Cookies.
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If you're wondering how many, Gaile posted a response on the support forums.
The collector will ask for 50 candy corn(s) in Lions Arch and 50 pumpkin cookies in Kamadan.
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Gli
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On the one hand it's nice the staff has become more flexible over the years. On the other hand every time something like this happens it sets a precedent and rewards the behavior with appeasement. It's not a stretch to assume there will be a virtually identical thread after New Years in Riverside provided this change doesn't go into place for every hat giving event from now on.
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Family Guy
I was given a 4 hour shake-down at the US/Canadian border two years ago trying to get home for Halloween after a 1000 mile drive. Where's my 2009 Halloween Hat Giver? Hmmm?
AngelWJedi
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I was given a 4 hour shake-down at the US/Canadian border two years ago trying to get home for Halloween after a 1000 mile drive. Where's my 2009 Halloween Hat Giver? Hmmm?
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Reformed
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You're a bit behind the times. Wintersday already had a post-event hat-giver for the past 2 years.
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Gli
Consistency does seem to be what they're going for by finally adding a post-event hat NPC to the only event that still needed one. So what is the point?
Reformed
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Consistency does seem to be what they're going for by finally adding a post-event hat NPC to the only event that still needed one. So what is the point?
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Gli
So because you're wondering if they'll also be featuring this new NPC one year from now, you throw us an obsolete example about a totally different event? And you're wondering why your point is being missed?
Rise of Cpu
one year from now will probably be a release of gw2, maybe. And if that is true, they don't have to follow the same structure as the previous game followed, like for example: the implementation of npc's after events. So tbh, chill.
BrettM
GW1 will continue even after the release of GW2. Not everyone will make the leap to GW2 immediately, many GW2 players may decide to pick up GW1, and many of the rest of us will probably make a return visit to GW1 for festivals. So continuing NPC hat givers for all festivals from now on would be a good thing to do.
When you get right down to it, we're talking about six specific seconds spread out over one specific 24-hour period when a once-in-a-lifetime reward is given out. You can participate in the Halloween festival all week long, but if you miss those six seconds, you're out of luck. Hat giver just makes good sense.
Kudos to ANet for the decision to provide one this time.
When you get right down to it, we're talking about six specific seconds spread out over one specific 24-hour period when a once-in-a-lifetime reward is given out. You can participate in the Halloween festival all week long, but if you miss those six seconds, you're out of luck. Hat giver just makes good sense.
Kudos to ANet for the decision to provide one this time.
Rise of Cpu
Yes, but most of the playerbase will transfer over to gw2, therefore the new game will not carry this sort of implementation on, if they do not wish to...
Rise of Cpu
Everything has different value to people in game. Same with minis, they all don't have a fixed rate because people have different thoughts about how much they actually truly cost. That's why there's always a large range between minumum and max prices. Still hats are not sold, but they do hold different value when considering are they worth having or not...
drkn
I would highly value my 2011 Dragon Festival mask. Make an NPC for me!
@Thowra down: sorry, but you sooo contradict yourself.
@Thowra down: sorry, but you sooo contradict yourself.
Dark Morelia
Thowra Wildfire
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Stopped playing GW for a few months in 2006 so missed out on that original Dragon Hat (the one I'd really love to have) - guess I'd better start complaining about those Orbs no longer being available, after all I still play the game, I exist, the hat exists, I deserve to have that hat!!!!! Right?
Wrong. I missed out, I'm pretty bummed about it, but opportunity has passed and that's that. While it would be great to have, Anet don't owe it to me.
OT, I would like to thank Anet for this 2nd opportunity to obtain the Halloween hats this year - I was able to get mine, but a friend who, due to unfortunate RL problems has been unable to be ingame for some weeks, will now have a chance to get both hats. So on his behalf, a big Thank You, it's an unexpected bonus.
I'd be fine for the Halloween hat giver to not be a permanent addition, considering the Halloween event is meant to reward your participation in Mad King Thorn's mini game, as opposed to have x number of event items in your inventory. If I can't make it due to whatever is happening in RL, then that's just too bad. If I can't make it due to some massive natural event that also affects thousands of other players, then I will trust that Anet will put a fix in place, as they have this year.
Cheers.
shinta_himura
"If I can't make it due to whatever is happening in RL, then that's just too bad."
Not anymore.
Cheers.
Not anymore.
Cheers.
Fu8ar
It is nice of ANet to allow for the players that missed out on this hat due to unforeseen natural circumstances that caused a massive power outage in New England. It's only for a week, so I don't see what the gripe is all about... I would like the cat ears/goggles I missed from last year, or all the Halloween masks from previous years. Had work to do and was too tired afterwards or drunk from Halloween party to think about playing GW. I snooze and I lose. Have this years, but think they suck compared to previous years.
jimbo32
I can't wait to see the whining when corn and cookies are selling for 1k+/ea once the hat giver is added.
It's awfully nice of ANet to do this, but if people who missed the finale are thinking that traders won't take advantage of the situation, they're crazy. If you missed it, better make sure you get 50 of each now while they're still fairly cheap.
It's awfully nice of ANet to do this, but if people who missed the finale are thinking that traders won't take advantage of the situation, they're crazy. If you missed it, better make sure you get 50 of each now while they're still fairly cheap.
Swingline
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I can't wait to see the whining when corn and cookies are selling for 1k+/ea once the hat giver is added.
It's awfully nice of ANet to do this, but if people who missed the finale are thinking that traders won't take advantage of the situation, they're crazy. If you missed it, better make sure you get 50 of each now while they're still fairly cheap. |
People complained about not getting a once in a lifetime item due to unforeseen circumstances(the power outage on the east coast usa) and its a good thing anet is doing this to show respect to their customers, it's a sign they care. So what if people see an opportunity to make a some plat, it only lasts a week.
jimbo32
You missed my point. I don't care one way or the other if traders take advantage of it. I wasn't condemning it at all - if people see an opportunity to make some extra cash, great.
I'm just expecting a bunch more complaints along the lines of "I missed the finale, and now I can't get my hats because it'd cost me 100k!
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I'm just expecting a bunch more complaints along the lines of "I missed the finale, and now I can't get my hats because it'd cost me 100k!
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StormDragonZ
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"If I can't make it due to whatever is happening in RL, then that's just too bad."
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"If I can't make it due to whatever is happening in RL, pay someone else to do it for me, or check Google for the best bots available."
LicensedLuny
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You missed my point. I don't care one way or the other if traders take advantage of it. I wasn't condemning it at all - if people see an opportunity to make some extra cash, great.
I'm just expecting a bunch more complaints along the lines of "I missed the finale, and now I can't get my hats because it'd cost me 100k! ". |
+1 internet point to you buddy!
I see your intent to help raise awareness and warn folks who might not have realized the possibility that the items will become more expensive to buy. I think it's commendable to post that here. If it only saves a player or two from being upset later, then it's worth it. Good for you!
As for my own opinions on the matter ...
I hope ANet is doing this both to
- Complete full implementation of, IMO, good idea.
There have already been such second chances for hats in other events for a while now. Having the same for Halloween hats, too, is a good thing, if only surprisingly long time coming. - Help out a group of players who were upset and managed to make the most noise about it in the right place. "The squeaky wheel gets the grease," isn't such a cliché for no reason! Such is life.
In summary, thanks ANet! If I've interpretted this correctly, then +1 internet point to you all, as well!
Swingline
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You missed my point. I don't care one way or the other if traders take advantage of it. I wasn't condemning it at all - if people see an opportunity to make some extra cash, great.
I'm just expecting a bunch more complaints along the lines of "I missed the finale, and now I can't get my hats because it'd cost me 100k! ". |
jazilla
So people here are upset that ANet is trying to help people that were unable to make it to get their hats? Shame on those who are upset and a HUGE Thank you to Anet on behalf of those who were unable to attend.
BTW: The Mad King still makes me laugh after all these years.
BTW: The Mad King still makes me laugh after all these years.
Coney
Sweet deal! I totally flub'd up and only got the hats in Kamadin, so at least now I can get the ones in Lions Arch!
shinta_himura
"It's awfully nice of ANet to do this, but if people who missed the finale are thinking that traders won't take advantage of the situation, they're crazy. If you missed it, better make sure you get 50 of each now while they're still fairly cheap."
ToT bags have been falling from the sky like rain drops since 2009. If you want to stand around in kamadan all day trying to sell ToTs for phat loot then be my guest.
ToT bags have been falling from the sky like rain drops since 2009. If you want to stand around in kamadan all day trying to sell ToTs for phat loot then be my guest.
TsunamiZ
https://forum.guildwars.com/forum/fo...-Update/page/1
here is the official post at the official gw support forum. it contains some updated info.
BTW: for people with ideas on how to make it possible to get previous years' hats, it may be more effective to make your suggestion there since it will be read by the developers. you just need to use your game account to login and post.
here is the official post at the official gw support forum. it contains some updated info.
BTW: for people with ideas on how to make it possible to get previous years' hats, it may be more effective to make your suggestion there since it will be read by the developers. you just need to use your game account to login and post.
Zenzai
Should I be nice and sell my extra candy corn and cookies to people who couldn't attend so they can get their hats? Or will I eat them for the perks they bring along with the Sweet Tooth points? Of course, I'm going to keep them for myself! Using them in hard areas to work on titles means more to me than someone else's fleeting vanity. Knowledge and LTP > Character's Appearance
BladeDVD
I would think we'd get the holiday drops back too. Kind of hard to get the hats except buying from other players otherwise.
Rise of Cpu
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I would think we'd get the holiday drops back too. Kind of hard to get the hats except buying from other players otherwise.
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LicensedLuny
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I would think we'd get the holiday drops back too. Kind of hard to get the hats except buying from other players otherwise.
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I realize having event drops is not and was not ever a requirement to get the hats at a finale (except for the one where you need tokens in inventory in Shing Jea when the emperor arrives - Dragon Festival, is it? It's the one w/out the celestial thing coming to sniff the tables.) However the other events' second-chance / post-finale hat-offering NPCs all do require that you turn in some kind of event drop for hats, right? So in that respect it makes sense that a second-chance / post-finale Halloween hat NPC would demand Halloween event drops.
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Wasn't the official, stated reason for this an effort help players who were around for the Halloween period but, due to inclement weather causing wide-spread power outages, missed the finales? If that's the case, then perhaps the idea is that said players should've been around playing during Halloween, gathering up ToTs anyway??? It's just a guess - I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the premise.
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Either way, pure speculation on my part.
Kaleban
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The only concern I have is the people who will not see it as enough and want the past hats, then its just a snowball effect.
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Seriously? You're CONCERNED about a snowball effect of allowing people playing a game to get an item with no actual value?
What's the worst thing that could happen by just giving every account free access to all hats? Oh that's right... NOTHING.
People who missed out on Spectercles or the Rudi Mask will obviously wear them and somehow master PvP instantly, or shave ten minutes off the UWSC record, that has to be your worry right? Or maybe you're TERRIFIED of enterprising players cornering the hat market and ramping up the price in ectos? Oh wait, hats are non-tradeable.
I guess I'm just having a tough time seeing what all the consternation is over giving something that doesn't affect gameplay to the people that play the game?