Team Build: 7H Triple Mesmer Melee Support. V4

1 SYG is enough, you don't really need two.

And I think Shield Guardian is a pretty weak skill, why not Aegis? 2 SYG's so it's up all the time. They will have command anyway for my perma fall back.

Take a look at the Retroway thread for talk about SG. I don't really want to copy paste it.

2 SYG's so it's up all the time. They will have command anyway for my perma fall back.

Take a look at the Retroway thread for talk about SG. I don't really want to copy paste it. I still think it's not needed when you have Save Yourselves, assuming you can have it up most of the time, but you've made your point.

As for SG: Fair enough, I read the stuff on Retroway and it seems a valid choice afterall.

I still think it's not needed when you have Save Yourselves, assuming you can have it up most of the time, but you've made your point.

As for SG: Fair enough, I read the stuff on Retroway and it seems a valid choice afterall. I agree two is overkill. One is nice for the beginning of the battle while SY is charging, but after the first 4 seconds, it becomes largely redundant since SY should be easily chained on a sin or warrior. SG is definitely a decent choice.

1. The rit is going to run dry of energy without Siphon. Probably remove his rez to fit it in.

2. I'd drop PoD, move IV to where PoD was, and turn the N/Mo into an E/Mo ER build with similar skills. This is the only bit a disagree with. Ive been watching the rit and he never has energy troubles. (I added it in anyway because everyone is saying this)

If I drop PoD and take IV on my Curses necro then to get any real use out of it I will want to shift that whole bar to have more Soul Reaping which would mean less damage from MoP which is the main reason he exists. Give me an example of an ER with SoH. I'm not sold yet.

I'm considering getting 3 mercs and if I do I will put a merc version up. That was also what I bought. In terms of optimizing builds, you should not need more than 3.

Currently, I have Rit, Mes, Mes as my 3 mercs. With this configuration, I can have a max of 5 mesmers+2 rits or 4 mesmers+3 rits. I don't foresee that I would ever need more than 3 rits, at least in the near future. One SoS, one defensive ST, and maybe one SoGM or Wanderlust communing would be the max number of rits needed in most build configurations that I would be interested in.



If you ask me to rank your build, I would give it a 7 or 7.5 out of 10 without trying it out yet.

I don't like bringing death nova and minions because it tends to slow down the team if you need to move fast from place to place. In some other situations where there are lots of corpses and you don't need to move around much, it would probably perform better.

I also don't really like a curse necro because they usually only bring debuffs and some damage. MoP is nice but without AP, its use is quite limited even if you micro. If you don't micro, it is even worse. At least a prot smiter can provide damage, utility, and prots/heals.

Also no source of cracked armor. There is no need to have 3 fallbacks. I would replace one FB with another copy of SYG so that heroes can chain SYG. The MoP actually does some pretty good damage with PoD and the other enchantment hating skills.

I don't have cracked armour because I play a Sin and all my damage is armour ignoring anyway. You could very happily drop Shadow of Fear for Weaken Armour or Spirit Rift over the res on the SoS.

I'm actually going to be dropping the SYG on V.3 since the ST makes it fairly redundant, it's only there for the first team for when you're charging your first SY. I'm max Lux though and playing a sin with no other adren skills so it might not be possible for a war or derv with a low allegiance to perma SY.

There is never any "need" for 3 fall backs but I use this for vanq'ing alot and by god is it wonderful to have 3 Fall Backs when you're looking for that last enemy who dug himself into a hole so you can't see him.

About MoP. The more I use it and the more practiced I get with it the more I like it. With the initial ball of most mobs I will easily get 5 triggers off which = 200 damage and if things didn't go perfectly and you had to clear up a few more melee you can use it again on any balled casters. Also I hate Smiting heroes.

When I next update the team I will have some optional slots so people can optimize it for what they want to do.