Update - Thursday, February 9, 2012 (Winds of Change Part 3)

Scorpionwitch

Scorpionwitch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

House Scorpionwitch

N/W

Thats OK. The only way I'm going to learn about WOC is to read about it here. I've been stuck on What waits in Shadow for 4 months so this is the only way I can finish the story. LOL......

Sinny survivor

Sinny survivor

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2011

[RUNI]

A/

I've really enjoyed part 3 so far. I really like the added hero reward for completing it again in HM, gives another incentive to play through it again, other than to get to some of the fun fights. i really don't get why people are complaining about it, The HM quests are challenging but nowhere near as frustrating as they were. Best part of the WoC series just a shame that part had such boring quests :/

Porkchop Sandwhiches

Porkchop Sandwhiches

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fishing Village in Wizard's Folly

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuris View Post
Warning, SPOILERS ahead, of course....

Wohoo! I'm way more interested in the original henchmen than Gwen. I guess this means I need to play hard mode

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches View Post
Wohoo! I'm way more interested in the original henchmen than Gwen. I guess this means I need to play hard mode
weird i didnt see that o.o then again i was to busy keeping idiot monk alive..i guess it must be a hm only part QQ still its rather cute

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

I wonder if it will be as boring as HotN. Probably just another stunt to throw more costumes at us.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

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Originally Posted by Swingline View Post
I wonder if it will be as boring as HotN. Probably just another stunt to throw more costumes at us.
The infamous thong maybe?

Pyrthas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me/

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Originally Posted by AngelWJedi View Post
weird i didnt see that o.o then again i was to busy keeping idiot monk alive..i guess it must be a hm only part QQ still its rather cute
Yes, it's HM only.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Does anyone else find the rewards a little wierd?

Oath of Purity - Double-click to remove 15% of all party member's Death Penalty. This item cannot be used in PvP.
Cost: 3 Ministerial Commendations

Seal of the Dragon Empire - You (not the rest of your party) gain a 10% morale boost.
Cost: 3 Imperial Guard Requisition Orders, effectively 9 Ministerial Commendations.

From the description, doesn't it sound like Oath of Purity > Seal of the Dragon Empire and yet it is three times cheaper?!

Lordkrall

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2011

W/

Morale boosts are far better then dp-removal. The DP will get removed by playing and gaining xp.

Oath of Purity might be better if you plan on dying though. ^^

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lordkrall View Post
Morale boosts are far better then dp-removal. The DP will get removed by playing and gaining xp.

Oath of Purity might be better if you plan on dying though. ^^
Seal of the Dragon Empire is equivalent to 1 Pumpkin cookie despite its grand sounding name. So 1 Pumpkin cookie is worth a lockbox? Right...

Lordkrall

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2011

W/

I would say one Pumpkin cookie is worth more than most of the stuff in the lockbox yes Atleast from a gameplay perspective

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

**SIGH** It's going to be hard to babysit a bunch of heroes trough the HM version of this, keeping them alive, moving them away from AOE attacks and at the same time making sure the enemy casters go down asap. Maybe it would go smoother if i switched to smite?

Wielder Of Magic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

Netherlands

The Saviors Of [EviL]

D/

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Originally Posted by EPO Bot View Post
**SIGH** It's going to be hard to babysit a bunch of heroes trough the HM version of this, keeping them alive, moving them away from AOE attacks and at the same time making sure the enemy casters go down asap. Maybe it would go smoother if i switched to smite?
When I did it with a monk friend RoJ+technobabble did an amazing job

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daesu View Post
Does anyone else find the rewards a little wierd?

Oath of Purity - Double-click to remove 15% of all party member's Death Penalty. This item cannot be used in PvP.
Cost: 3 Ministerial Commendations

Seal of the Dragon Empire - You (not the rest of your party) gain a 10% morale boost.
Cost: 3 Imperial Guard Requisition Orders, effectively 9 Ministerial Commendations.

From the description, doesn't it sound like Oath of Purity > Seal of the Dragon Empire and yet it is three times cheaper?!
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Powerstone_of_Courage

These exist, so there's not much point in either one of those two.

LordDragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2010

Dragons Den

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches View Post
Wohoo! I'm way more interested in the original henchmen than Gwen. I guess this means I need to play hard mode
What are you talking about Gwen is THE original henchman. She is your first healer in the game if you start in prophecies.

Not a very good healer mind you but she does toss off the random heal every now and then.

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Powerstone_of_Courage

These exist, so there's not much point in either one of those two.
Yeah, but they're unfortunately quite expensive to craft. Not really on par with three IG requisitions, but still...

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

W/

I'm not sure if it was just this mission, but has anyone else had a Ministerial Commendation drop after killing MOP members? I should have taken a screenshot, but I had one drop for me during the "Warning the Tengu" mission in HM. Maybe it was a boss drop, but I don't ever remember that happening before in NM or anywhere else.

EDIT: Psh, should have read the Wiki first - they do drop randomly from the MoP.

dasmitchies

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Sacred Forge Knights

W/P

Hm is unbalanced, lazy developers

Galen Ubal

Galen Ubal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Harcourt, Victoria, Australia

Omniverse Wanderers

N/R

I'm just about done with WOC, and I'm starting to wonder...what does the Emperor think of all this? I haven't seen him mentioned at all, and a quick look through the quest dialogues don't really mention him (though I could have missed something).
So, what's up with his silence? With all of this going on, you'd think we'd talk to him once or twice - after all, we are the Heroes of Cantha, saving his bacon once again.
Or...maybe he's the mysterious Xun Rao?
John Stumme has this to say about Xun
Quote:
I will say nothing further on the matter of Xun Rao, except that what you see (or don't see) of him is intentional. [[John_Stumme|'''John Stumme''']] 06:26, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
(From his wiki talk page)
That's a wild guess...otherwise, though, the silence from the Emperor is rather puzzling.
Another guess - they're not the same person, but Xun has Kisu bottled up in some way.

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Or, I could have looked further down the same page, and seen that the Emperor was just...left out.
Nevermind.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman View Post
Maybe it was a boss drop, but I don't ever remember that happening before in NM or anywhere else.
Yes they do drop in NM too. Happened to me at least twice.

I completed WoC by partying up 2 characters (from different accounts, of course), so I get twice the rewards by just going through it once. And yes, I control 2 keyboards. Even for the 4-man quests it is still possible to control 2 characters at the same time, at least in NM, I will try out HM if I can find time.

Well...except for that solo quest where I have to do it twice.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lordkrall View Post
I would say one Pumpkin cookie is worth more than most of the stuff in the lockbox yes Atleast from a gameplay perspective
Personal DP removal cons have limited uses. Maybe if you are solo farming or you PUG, then they can be of some help.

If you use heroes, as would be most cases now, some of your heroes would likely have a higher DP than you because of their limited AI and heroes cannot use personal DP removal cons.

Actually Seal of the Empire is even worse than 1 pumpkin cookie! At least 1 pumpkin cookie has 1 sweet point and can be used for the Thackeray scavenger hunt. I wonder how many players are going to opt for the other 2 choices, instead of the lockbox.

Willie Lumpkin

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2011

Canada

Sandwalkers of Ascalon

E/Me

I got six of the pamphlets because I didn't realize that you could trade your Ministerial Commendations for Requisition Orders