Hello,
I'll start by apologizing if I posted this in the wrong section...so...I am sorry...
Now...I just started playing GW and I find it pretty awesome, I played enough to realize most of the concepts and the game's mechanics. Also I read quite a few guides before I created my character. My only problem is that now...well I befriended some players that have been in this game for quite some time. When I'll start playing factions (not much longer until then) I want to create an assassin. Now most of these players told me that assassins are great in PVE and that I get some awesome skills from the Eye of the North expansion.
This brings me to my question. Is there any way to get the skills from the EotN during my campaign in factions? And which 2nd class would you get for an assassin. I am thinking monk but I don't know.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to read(and reply) to my question and also I apologize if I gave away too many details.
Newbie Questions
rusticgamer
Iuris
No, but you can travel to EotN yourself quite early. You can work on several campaigns in paralell.
AcidBurn22
How do you travel between the campaigns? I was in Prophecies and clicked an NPC that took me to Embark Beach. From there I went to Elona... how do I get back to the tProphecies campaign? Do I have to go back to Embark Beach? Sorry if the answer is obvious, but I'm a bit confused on how to get back lol.
Meow Ren
If you have reached the major port city in Prophecies, Lion's Arch, you can map travel back there. Press "m" in-game and it will bring up the world map. There will be a boat somewhere on the map, click on it and it will give you the option of instantly traveling to any of the port cities you've unlocked. For Nightfall, this is Kamadan, for Factions, it will be Kaineng City.
If you haven't made it as far as Lion's Arch, yes, you'll need to return to Embark Beach. Again, you can map travel there or you can find one of those Zaishen NPCs in the nearest town to take you there.
If you haven't made it as far as Lion's Arch, yes, you'll need to return to Embark Beach. Again, you can map travel there or you can find one of those Zaishen NPCs in the nearest town to take you there.
Star_Jewel
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Originally Posted by rusticgamer
Is there any way to get the skills from the EotN during my campaign in factions? And which 2nd class would you get for an assassin. I am thinking monk but I don't know.
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As Iuris said, you can travel to North as soon as you get out of the tutorial island (which is the fastest tutorial zone of all the campaigns) and to Kaineng Center (as long as you're at least level 10). Unlike some of the campaigns, whose skills are spread out over various trainers throughout the lands, you can purchase all the profession-specific North skills from a single trainer right in the outpost called "Eye of the North" (a quick run from the outpost where you originally arrive in North). After getting whatever skills you want, you can map back to Kaineng and continue on with Factions.
As for secondary, pick whatever provides a few utility skills your primary profession doesn't. You can /wiki "monk skills" and get a list to see if there's something you like. Don't sweat the decision too much -- you'll be able to change your secondary as early as after 2 mainland missions and a couple of primary quests.
Meow Ren
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Originally Posted by rusticgamer
Now most of these players told me that assassins are great in PVE and that I get some awesome skills from the Eye of the North expansion.
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Originally Posted by Star_Jewel
...you can purchase all the profession-specific North skills from a single trainer right in the outpost called "Eye of the North" (a quick run from the outpost where you originally arrive in North). After getting whatever skills you want, you can map back to Kaineng and continue on with Factions.
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carnage-runner
Always beat EotN first. Grab Warrior Secondary and get the warrior kurzick/luxon skill. *Save Yourselves*.
The heroes you'll get from EotN will help greatly also.
The heroes you'll get from EotN will help greatly also.
GODh
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Originally Posted by carnage-runner
Grab Warrior Secondary and get the warrior kurzick/luxon skill. *Save Yourselves*.
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Star_Jewel
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Originally Posted by Meow Ren
...er, not that I'm an expert by any means in regards to assassins...but is it possible the OP's guildmates were also referring to some EotN title-track skills?
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Originally Posted by carnage-runner
Always beat EotN first.
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We've seen too many come in here with wads of hair in their hands, begging for advice for Heart of the Shiverpeaks, to indicate that blowing through North first thing isn't the best route.
Kada
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Originally Posted by Star_Jewel
Easily said by a veteran player. Not so easily done by a newbie.
We've seen too many come in here with wads of hair in their hands, begging for advice for Heart of the Shiverpeaks, to indicate that blowing through North first thing isn't the best route. |
I bought the game in mid 2008 and left it alone until about 6 months ago when I picked it back up again after finding the CDs while moving. I created a new character in a new class I'd never played before having forgot all previous playing experience and went to work.
If you read the wiki for skillset suggestions and you get help from PUGs or Guildies in Central Transfer Chamber for the final mission, it is absolutely 100% possible to complete EOTN first as a "newbie".
I had EOTN completed before Proph, Factions or Nightfall - as soon as I could get to Boreal Station I went and played nothing but EOTN until it was done. Took me maybe a month of playing 1-2 hours a day.
With that said, I did have the benefit of LDoA in Ascalon beforehand and the /bonus weapons.
rusticgamer
I have another question that is related to traveling. I too have gone from Lion's arch to Cantha with a quest from Mehlno (I think this was his name). I explored it a bit but now I wish to return to lion's arch, but the boatman tells me the captain is not there..... I haven't picked out any quests. Do I have to get some quests and finish them in order to get back? Also I tried to press M to see if I can just teleport and I can't. Any solution on how to return to prophecies T_T I wanna finish my capaign.
Blackbirdx61
Click on M for Map Travel, Click on the Boat you see on the map, you might have to zoom out but it's always there, one of your Options will now be LA, and you can return to Cantha the same way. Once in LA you can travel anywhere you've uncovered on the Prophecies Map. BTW I got lost the same way first time I reached Embark Beach.
Congrates you've just doubled the size of your world. BB.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Campaign_travel
Congrates you've just doubled the size of your world. BB.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Campaign_travel
Zebideedee
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Originally Posted by AcidBurn22
How do you travel between the campaigns? I was in Prophecies and clicked an NPC that took me to Embark Beach. From there I went to Elona... how do I get back to the tProphecies campaign? Do I have to go back to Embark Beach? Sorry if the answer is obvious, but I'm a bit confused on how to get back lol.
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Embark Beach is something different, you can pick up Zaishen bounties etc. there. If you don't have the ship icon on your map you can use the travel agents there to send you back to where you came from.
rusticgamer
Regarding pvp...If i want to pvp a lot should i use a roleplayong character or should i create a pvp only one??? I was thinking that if i do pve with my character i could use a pvp build and later use it to do pvp however...a pve build would bE better for my character.
Also can i reset all my stat points??? I was thinking that i could use a pve build and when i am in mood for pvP I'll just change my builds whenever i wish.
Also can i reset all my stat points??? I was thinking that i could use a pve build and when i am in mood for pvP I'll just change my builds whenever i wish.
drkn
You can change your build whenever in the outpost. The only thing you can't change, aside of your character's name and looks, is the primary profession.
However, if you want to play PvP quite often - even on a casual level - i strongly recommend using a PvP character for it. Here's is a summary why: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Pvp_character
However, if you want to play PvP quite often - even on a casual level - i strongly recommend using a PvP character for it. Here's is a summary why: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Pvp_character
Kendil
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Originally Posted by drkn
You can change your build whenever in the outpost. The only thing you can't change, aside of your character's name and looks, is the primary profession.
However, if you want to play PvP quite often - even on a casual level - i strongly recommend using a PvP character for it. Here's is a summary why: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Pvp_character |
Star_Jewel
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Originally Posted by Kendil
Yes, definitely roll a pvp-only character. It's a lot easier to get perfect equippment for your build, especially when you change builds often.
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Consider the two scenarios...
A PvE character: Wants to PvP. If he wants to do Factions PvP, he first has to travel halfway through the campaign and do several quests to unlock the staging outposts. He'll want PvP-friendly builds, which will require buying a few skills (at 1k each, he may have to spend 8k in total). He may also have to unlock other secondary professions. Do his armor components support his build? If not, he'll have to buy them, and then use perfect kits to pull off his PvE armor components, or buy a second set of armor for PvP. What about his weapon? Does that support his build? No? Look for a collector weapon that does and farm the trophies, or wait around Kamadan to buy a green that does, or craft a weapon and hunt down the mods. Yay! Finally ready to PvP! ...Until you want to change your build. Then you must repeat some of these steps.
A PvP-only character: Wants to PvP. If he wants to do Factions PvP, he can just talk to the Kurzick or Luxon NPCs in Temple of Balthazar. He'll want PvP-friendly builds, which he can instantly load up with any skills that have been unlocked on the account. He can also unlock more with Balthazar Faction. All secondaries (that the account is eligible for) are available. To support his build, he can upgrade his free max armor with any components his account has unlocked through IDing (or can unlock any that he needs with Balthazar Faction). He can do the same for weapons. And if he switches builds a lot, he can save his armor and weapon set-ups in a template to load up later on the fly.
It's so much more freeing to be able to play your PvE characters as PvE characters, without having to keep PvP possibilities in the back of your mind. The friend who got me into this game, for some crazy reason, likes to use his PvE characters for PvP, and put me into this mindset early on. My GW life completely changed when I discovered the joys of having a dedicated PvP-only slot.
rusticgamer
Thank you for the informations. They were really helpful.
Blackbirdx61
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Originally Posted by Star_Jewel
A PvP-only character: Wants to PvP. If he wants to do Factions PvP, he can just talk to the Kurzick or Luxon NPCs in Temple of Balthazar. He'll want PvP-friendly builds, which he can instantly load up with any skills that have been unlocked on the account. He can also unlock more with Balthazar Faction. All secondaries (that the account is eligible for) are available. To support his build, he can upgrade his free max armor with any components his account has unlocked through IDing (or can unlock any that he needs with Balthazar Faction). He can do the same for weapons. And if he switches builds a lot, he can save his armor and weapon set-ups in a template to load up later on the fly.
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But When I decided I wanted to add a Necro to my team; A Brand new class for me, Oh God that was awful; You could fight for 100 years and never win a single round with the 'skills' a Brand New PvP character gets; So I'm very skeptical how useful the ability to buy skills with Balthazar Faction is going to be for a new player, in reality. I don't see how a New Player can succeed in the PvP Arena myself.
Instead, it seems clear to me behind every good PvP Character, is a PvE toon, out there farming the skills, runes and upgrades, doing the work in the field if your going to then create a PvP Toon that stands a snowballs chance in the Arena; that or pony up and buy a Skills Pack, which perhaps is the better course if your real passion is PvP.
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Star thanks for the interesting - informative reply below. BB.
Star_Jewel
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But When I decided I wanted to add a Necro to my team; A Brand new class for me, Oh God that was awful; You could fight for 100 years and never win a single round with the 'skills' a Brand New PvP character gets; So I'm very skeptical how useful the ability to buy skills with Balthazar Faction is going to be for a new player, in reality.
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However, for the situation you described, you have several options....
* If you have a PvE character that's already unlocked some skills, you can use it to do some light PvP (or make a PvP-only mirror profession so you don't have to worry about equipment).
* You can roll temp PvE characters to cheaply unlock some more starter skills to play with in PvP.
* Or you can just suck it up and use whatever starter skills they give you.
You can then take those non-optimal builds and play in the low-pressure arenas:
* Team Trials/Zaishen Challenge/Zaishen Elite for daily-limited rewards but playing against NPCs.
* Jade Quarry or Fort Aspenwood, where you can just kind of hide and help where you can. Just having some running skills and running amber for the Kurzicks in FA is a way to contribute to a win.
Getting started is not easy, but it doesn't take long at all to be able to unlock a few good skills for it to get easier. That said, if a person has an established PvE character that has been everywhere already, it's probably better that they unlock the skills by buying them from skill trainers and use their Balthazar Faction for Zaishen Keys (if they can sell them for more than 5k each).
Edited to add: If you're a hard-core PvPer and have no desire to ever set foot in PvE, I'm pretty sure you can use your 50 free Tournament Reward Points on Flames of Balthazar to put together a decent starter bar.
_Aphotic_
In the super, super, long run (which for a 7-year old game, there isn't going to be much of that left), making your PvE characters and bringing them to PvP is the much, much better choice.
Because, you're limited to 19 PvP items in your inventory at any time, you'll need a PvE character to farm additional items for you to complete your respective weapon sets (it's actually much faster to have all the weapons/armor sets on-hand at all times, much easier than having to reload templates all the time), and even if you accomplish that, if you want all the armor sets on your PvP character you'll need to have access to PvE (19 items is not near enough a limit for getting the armor you'll require for different builds).
All that being said, only a handful of the high-end PvP'ers I know do this.
You're partially correct... but, I do know of a few people going through certain *purposely unmentioned* methods to never, ever have to touch PvE and still accomplish this.
Because, you're limited to 19 PvP items in your inventory at any time, you'll need a PvE character to farm additional items for you to complete your respective weapon sets (it's actually much faster to have all the weapons/armor sets on-hand at all times, much easier than having to reload templates all the time), and even if you accomplish that, if you want all the armor sets on your PvP character you'll need to have access to PvE (19 items is not near enough a limit for getting the armor you'll require for different builds).
All that being said, only a handful of the high-end PvP'ers I know do this.
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Instead, it seems clear to me behind every good PvP Character, is a PvE toon, out there farming the skills, runes and upgrades, doing the work in the field if your going to then create a PvP Toon that stands a snowballs chance in the Arena; that or pony up and buy a Skills Pack, which perhaps is the better course if your real passion is PvP.
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rusticgamer
Again with a question...I wanna play an Assassin...and I thought great let's start using it...but then I got this idea. Why not get Imperial Armor? AR is 70 and I heard it's really really good. So...I was like GREAT let's start farming with a prophecies toon...So I started the game with a N/E. Now I have 5 Platinum, 200 Tanned Hide Square and 32 Steel Ingot...I wanna start in force so I just brushed off the fact that I need runes and insignias for my build. I'm sure I'll get them later.
Can someone tell me if it's a good idea to go craft my equipment with my N/E and then move it to my Assassin or will the equipment be locked or something like that? Should I get that equipment on my Assassin? which is just lvl 2 btw and I heard I need to get to lvl 10 to get to Kaineng. But I really wanna start with that armor...soo tell me what u think get in on N/E and move it through Xunlai Chest or....lvl up my assassin and eventually get it?
Can someone tell me if it's a good idea to go craft my equipment with my N/E and then move it to my Assassin or will the equipment be locked or something like that? Should I get that equipment on my Assassin? which is just lvl 2 btw and I heard I need to get to lvl 10 to get to Kaineng. But I really wanna start with that armor...soo tell me what u think get in on N/E and move it through Xunlai Chest or....lvl up my assassin and eventually get it?
Marty Silverblade
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Again with a question...I wanna play an Assassin...and I thought great let's start using it...but then I got this idea. Why not get Imperial Armor? AR is 70 and I heard it's really really good. So...I was like GREAT let's start farming with a prophecies toon...So I started the game with a N/E. Now I have 5 Platinum, 200 Tanned Hide Square and 32 Steel Ingot...I wanna start in force so I just brushed off the fact that I need runes and insignias for my build. I'm sure I'll get them later.
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Can someone tell me if it's a good idea to go craft my equipment with my N/E and then move it to my Assassin or will the equipment be locked or something like that? Should I get that equipment on my Assassin? which is just lvl 2 btw and I heard I need to get to lvl 10 to get to Kaineng. But I really wanna start with that armor...soo tell me what u think get in on N/E and move it through Xunlai Chest or....lvl up my assassin and eventually get it?
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rusticgamer
thank you for the answers helped me a lot. But again I have a question...from the mainland I can always hop back to shing jea and the other way right?
Star_Jewel
Correct. The only tutorial area you're not allowed to go back to is Prophecies' Pre-Searing. Factions and Nightfall newbie zones are open to anyone (even non-natives).
Marty Silverblade
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Originally Posted by Star_Jewel
Correct. The only tutorial area you're not allowed to go back to is Prophecies' Pre-Searing. Factions and Nightfall newbie zones are open to anyone (even non-natives).
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WhisperinShadow
Wait, i have got the Prophecies and i can travel to places of Expansion Packs?
if not, which things i can be benefited from of these expansions if possible?
if not, which things i can be benefited from of these expansions if possible?
Calista Blackblood
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Wait, i have got the Prophecies and i can travel to places of Expansion Packs?
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akelarumi
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Wait, i have got the Prophecies and i can travel to places of Expansion Packs?
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for example. On some rare occasions it is possible to get a skill from another campaign without owning that campaign. Although, if equiped you can see it, it will have a lock over the icon and you can't use the skill. This is the same with hero's. It is possible to have e.g. the EotN hero Xandra (ritualist) without owning factions (though you need to own EotN off course to get her). She can use the skills she already have, but you can't get her new skills (and you can't force her to use a certain skill liuke you can do with other heroes).
Blackbirdx61
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Originally Posted by rusticgamer
Can someone tell me if it's a good idea to go craft my equipment with my N/E and then move it to my Assassin or will the equipment be locked or something like that? Should I get that equipment on my Assassin? which is just lvl 2 btw and I heard I need to get to lvl 10 to get to Kaineng. But I really wanna start with that armor...soo tell me what u think get in on N/E and move it through Xunlai Chest or....lvl up my assassin and eventually get it?
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rusticgamer
I started the Factions campaign yesterday and played a bit. THis morning I was leveling my A/Mo in the factions capmaign and I stumbeled over a quest that gave Atrribute points. I mean ...WOW....ATRRIBUTE POINTS...and 15 of em' none the less. You can imagine my joy when I took it and finished it. The quest was right after the 1st mission from factions. It was called treasure or something and it turns out the guard that gave me the mission had a love named precious trasure or something and you had to rescue her. Anyways what I want to ask is if there are more quests like that. I mean I really want more atrribute points.
Marty Silverblade
There are two attribute quests in each campaign (both giving 15 points), but you can only do the ones of the campaign you started in. So a Factions character can only do both Factions quests, a Nightfall character can only do both Nightfall quests, etc.
http://www.guildwiki.org/Attribute_quest
http://www.guildwiki.org/Attribute_quest
rusticgamer
Is there any difference between Imperial Armor and Elite Imperial Armor or is it just the looks?
drkn
You can add the elite armour sets to HoM.
Gameplay-wise, however, there's completely no difference as long as it's crafted and has max armour rating.
Gameplay-wise, however, there's completely no difference as long as it's crafted and has max armour rating.
rusticgamer
what exactly are norn skills and how do I get them?
Lupu
Norn (and Asura, Vanguard and Dwarven) skills are PvE only skills that you can get in the Eye of the North Expansion. There are quite some powerful and useful skills among them.
Star_Jewel
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what exactly are norn skills and how do I get them?
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(Whoops, ninja'd.)
rusticgamer
thank you those skills are indeed awesome O.o
rusticgamer
Another question. In the Giveaways of this forum. I left a request and an IGN as everybody in that thread left. WIll the player that is giving those items away contact me or will he send them through a system or something? I mean does GW even have a mail system or somthing like that? the Xunali agent is a storge only from what I can see.
Mintha Syl
No there's no mail system or anything like that. People leave igns so they can contact each other when online and meet for the trade.