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Dayquil
There are ppl in pre doing the countdown reset thing now too. Prolly just have someone in post doing it, but its happening here too
chaosincarnate87
anyone else notice it is also showing that people who have been dc'd (i don't know if it HAS to be by you, but in my case they were) on your friends list are displayed as in towns and instances they had been in HOURS previous to the disconnect and current area they're in?
Linksys
If they do a roll back, I hope they don't do it too far back. I maxed my wisdom title recently.
Minami
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Its a good laugh, you just need to grow a sense of humor. GW is srs bsns huh?
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I edited my post but you might've not seen it:
On another thought, yes, it is "upsetting" (too strong of a word, but I can't think of another one at 11 pm when my native language is not English
) me with regards to these immature people trying to ruin other people's good time. I care about what affects other people, hence my disdain over these happenings.
I am not furious, as trolls would like people to feel, simply annoyed for other people's sake.
I would have liked to talk to my friend over team chat while trying to sell my pumpkin cookies, or spam my party points. I'll just do it all over again tomorrow, no big deal.
Eevee11
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Originally Posted by chaosincarnate87
anyone else notice it is also showing that people who have been dc'd (i don't know if it HAS to be by you, but in my case they were) on your friends list are displayed as in towns and instances they had been in HOURS previous to the disconnect and current area they're in?
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My experience is different. It stopped showing all my friend's locations alltogether.
Dayquil
I managed to get a ss of someone doing an accurate countdown. Didnt get it the first time, but I did the 2nd time, which was <1min after the first. Would that help any guru admins or whatever at all?
Swingline
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Originally Posted by Dayquil
I managed to get a ss of someone doing an accurate countdown. Didnt get it the first time, but I did the 2nd time, which was <1min after the first. Would that help any guru admins or whatever at all?
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Da Kenster
Looks like people are taking advantage and trying to score on the reset records lists.
shoesbags
Maybe we'll get to see another mass Dhuum for all the troublemakers :3
Minami
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Originally Posted by Dayquil
I managed to get a ss of someone doing an accurate countdown. Didnt get it the first time, but I did the 2nd time, which was <1min after the first. Would that help any guru admins or whatever at all?
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If Anet needs them, I'm sure they'll ask.
Although I'd imagine it's kind of easy to track down people who did this by looking at the logs.
Krazy Kat
Looks like it's fixed temporarily. Observer mode has been disabled.
Linksys
If you were annoyed by the people doing this on purpose in Kamadan or anywhere, no need to be embarrassed or feel like you were trolled. It's understandable.
Avatar Exico
Iv known this bug for awhile. Cause I got freaked out once, when I watching HA match and wanted to go to Guild Hall and all of sudden got d/ced and when I login, all my characters were wiped. When I log back out and back in they were there.
Linksys
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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico
Iv known this bug for awhile. Cause I got freaked out once, when I watching HA match and wanted to go to Guild Hall and all of sudden got d/ced and when I login, all my characters were wiped. When I log back out and back in they were there.
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Swingline
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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico
Iv known this bug for awhile. Cause I got freaked out once, when I watching HA match and wanted to go to Guild Hall and all of sudden got d/ced and when I login, all my characters were wiped. When I log back out and back in they were there.
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I am very surprised Anet has software this faulty
Avatar Exico
Yeah, Now I when I HA match or GVG, always tell myself to exit Observer Mode than go where I want go, or bug will happened cause even happened when I wanted go to Kamadam too.
spun ducky
So I am already hearing from a few people if you opened a birthday present or coffer of whispers or similiar items and didn't get a good item you could do the DC to get it back. It seems they shutdown the observer mode for the moment so it no longer works but makes me wonder how many armbraces and what not were created through this method in the one hour window...
Da Kenster
Gaile Gray posted in the Guild Wars Support Forum:
We are aware of the exploit and have taken Observer Mode offline. We will re-enable the system once we have ascertained that the exploit is no longer an issue.
Thank you for your reports, and thank you also for your patience as we complete the work we need to do to close the exploit and deal with those who abused it.
P.S. Using an exploit results in account termination.
We are aware of the exploit and have taken Observer Mode offline. We will re-enable the system once we have ascertained that the exploit is no longer an issue.
Thank you for your reports, and thank you also for your patience as we complete the work we need to do to close the exploit and deal with those who abused it.
P.S. Using an exploit results in account termination.
spun ducky
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Originally Posted by Da Kenster
Gaile Gray posted in the Guild Wars Support Forum:
We are aware of the exploit and have taken Observer Mode offline. We will re-enable the system once we have ascertained that the exploit is no longer an issue. Thank you for your reports, and thank you also for your patience as we complete the work we need to do to close the exploit and deal with those who abused it. P.S. Using an exploit results in account termination. |
The bigger question is what in fact happened in that HA match that messed up the whole observer mode if that was the cause.
Swingline
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Originally Posted by spun ducky
So I am already hearing from a few people if you opened a birthday present or coffer of whispers or similiar items and didn't get a good item you could do the DC to get it back. It seems they shutdown the observer mode for the moment so it no longer works but makes me wonder how many armbraces and what not were created through this method in the one hour window...
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Aycee
Already starting to think its very possible for people to have been duping by Trading item to second account>Having second account log off>DCing and semi rollbacking First account.
Swingline
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Originally Posted by spun ducky
I don't see how they can call the crashing an exploit at all since it didn't do anything out of the ordinary that players do when they try to observe a match. I think most people would call it crappy design that an intended feature is broken.
The bigger question is what in fact happened in that HA match that messed up the whole observer mode if that was the cause. |
spun ducky
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Originally Posted by Swingline
As far as I know its not a duplication exploit. All it did was rollback the server a few seconds.
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Da Kenster
And for those upset with the actions of certain individuals, Gaile also posted this:
If anyone happened to notice someone taunting or threatening other players with this exploit, I’d very much appreciate if you send me their name(s) via Private Message. Please do not post them here. And please be aware that before any action is taken on any account, we will fully verify that person’s involvement.
Thank you.
Further FYI.
If anyone happened to notice someone taunting or threatening other players with this exploit, I’d very much appreciate if you send me their name(s) via Private Message. Please do not post them here. And please be aware that before any action is taken on any account, we will fully verify that person’s involvement.
Thank you.
Further FYI.
Swingline
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Originally Posted by spun ducky
Which is really convenient when you keep opening coffers of whispers until it is an armbrace.
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I also wonder if any Minipets were dupped.
Aycee
Most likely if what I think actually works, we'll find out tomorrow if there's an increase in Rare Minis being sold off or stacks of ectos/arms causing a lot of deflation.
Linksys
I did go into Observe mode and disconnected myself by selecting the HoH match and trying to observe it. I didn't know at that point that I would disconnect the whole Embark Beach district I was in. I thought I would only disconnect me directly and was curious. I had no mischief or malicious intent. I thought the mass disconnects were related but not directly caused by someone using the Observe feature. Then I found out it was and didn't do it again.
SunfallE
I'm just glad they finally stopped it since it was annoying as frick to constantly get dc'd.
tenderpoison
Was in FA earlier and same thing happened there too. And there was a guy counting to next dc and saying he figured out how he can't avoid being dc'd.
Elnino
Funny that today is the gvg zquest day and all the sync guilds have been exposed thanks to the ladder reset.
Gabs88
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I am more worried about Aycee's theory. People could have dupped 1750 armbraces every 30 seconds.
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Avatar Exico
glad this finally got resolved, it was annouying to watch PvP matches and dc. Freak out that all your characters were wiped. I was wondering if create character when all your characters got wiped, wondering if did that lost all your characters that would soo stink.
spun ducky
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
We are aware of an exploit being perpetrated by a few players and as a result, we have taken Observer Mode offline. We will re-enable the system once we have ascertained that the exploit is no longer an issue.
Thank you for your reports, and thank you also for your patience as we complete the work we need to do to close the exploit and deal with those who abused it. P.S. Using an exploit results in account termination. |
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
If anyone happened to notice someone taunting or threatening other players with this exploit, I’d very much appreciate if you send me their name(s) via Private Message. Please do not post them here. And please be aware that before any action is taken on any account, we will fully verify that person’s involvement.
Thank you. |
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I don’t think we’re ready to talk about who will be banned and who will not be banned. We’ll be looking into this matter over the next couple of days, I’m sure.
But do consider our perspective: Commonly, the first thing that a guilty person says is, “I was just testing it!” Next most common are, “You guys closed it before I had a chance to report” or, of course, “Someone else was on my account.” I don’t mean to make light of using an exploit. It really is a serious issue for us, and we take it extremely seriously. As of tonight, players have been banned and many more will be banned over the next couple of days. Please give us some time to sort this out. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
And please consider this: What would it be like, if everyone who heard “You can crash the server if you do A-B-C” ran out and did it? More importantly, why would you do it? It’s like “Hey, I hear you can get electrocuted if you stick your finger in this socket.” Does anyone “test” that?
If you hear about an exploit, tell us via any means on the contact Support page. (Obviously, you shouldn’t post an exploit in the forums.) At the very least, PM us here, although a ticket or email is preferable. And please stop speculating on what will happen to those who “tested” the exploit. That matter remains in the hands of ArenaNet and NCsoft, and it doesn’t serve any purpose to use this official forum as a hotbed of speculation and guesswork. I am closing this thread. Please do not start a new one on this or any related subject. Thank you. |
So let me translate what is actually going to happen based on the mirage of a public relations employee trying to make punishment sound more severe.
Accounts will be terminated but only if you openly admitted you were doing the crash such as the people doing count downs or demanding ecto to stop.
The reality is they don't know who did it because it may have been a hard crash with no tracing or even worse case scenario if you ban anyone who did it what happens to the people who were tricked into it or who actually tried to watch the HA match.
So the end result is this if you openly admitted to doing it and someone took an ss of you doing such act you have either already been banned or will in the next few days.
TL;DR Version:
They are only going to ban the people who openly admitted to the exploit and got reported.
Gabs88
TBH I think they may end up banning a lot more and then do the complaints later.
PurpleFission
Well personally i hope noone gets banned >.>........................
Swingline
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TBH I think they may end up banning a lot more and then do the complaints later.
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King Size
i go to bed early one time and this happens lol
Linksys
When I did the crash once, thinking it would only affect me, I went back to the district I was in and found out the whole district got disconnected. I explained it was me and that I didn't know that would happen. I thought the mass disconnections were from some server or observer mode overload or something. I didn't think it was directly triggered by someone going into observer mode. When I found out by asking the district what happened, then I knew and I didn't do it again.
Anyways, for those who purposefully did this, I think a suspension would be better than a ban.
Anyways, for those who purposefully did this, I think a suspension would be better than a ban.
Swingline
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Originally Posted by Linksys
When I did the crash once, thinking it would only affect me, I went back to the district I was in and found out the whole district got disconnected. I explained it was me and that I didn't know that would happen. I thought the mass disconnections were from some server or observer mode overload or something. I didn't think it was directly triggered by someone going into observer mode. When I found out by asking the district what happened, then I knew and I didn't do it again.
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Enchanted Krystal
Awesome, I missed the whole thing so I guess I'm safe. 
Yes, people can be totally stupid so this will always be the "knee jerk reaction". The onus really comes back to the company that made the product, to ensure that if this(or any other possible issue) was to happen there would be no ill effects to the end user. That is what product testing is for, isn't it? I agree with banning people who "exploited" the situation, but Anet has to take some responsibility here, don't they?
Just my 2 cents.
~Andy~
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
“Hey, I hear you can get electrocuted if you stick your finger in this socket.” Does anyone “test” that?
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Just my 2 cents.
~Andy~