Duping its back...

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by Šiljo View Post
So, they're all dupeing sapphiers but no rubies?

Sapphs dropped 2k in since the 2st screen here and ruby is still at 8,5...
Probably just a single nub or two that's doing it then. Doesn't know how to modify his script or whatever he's using.

If it works for sapphires and miniatures it should work for ecto / rubies and whatever else mats too.

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Originally Posted by superraptors View Post
just fyi, if you want a REAL piece of gw history start buying oldschool weapons that don't drop anymore.
Like a HoD sword ^^ Thats history right there

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

R/P

LMAO STOP IT ALREADY. UNTIL YOU CAN PROVE THOSE SCREENS ARE FAKED, DUPES ARE BACK.

BTW Great timing... friday... people prob want to go home early. gw2 is murdering devs... can they even spare people to come find and fix the exploit? D3 is in a couple of days. gw2 beta too...

and

NCSOFT does not care.

Sit back. Watch it burn to the ground and come join us in hell on the 15th or whenever they let us preorderers in.

GUILD WARS IS DEAD! Long live your next time sink.

JONO51

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

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Showing all the custo'd stacks of stuff is pretty much the dumbest thing the dupers could do, but oh well.

I am guessing though that plenty of the asian pets could have been duped by now so akana could trade up to the panda to get that kanaxai. Bound to be other dupers trying to do the same too. The well is definitely poisoned for those.

Kiki Go Boom

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2009

Mr Sunqua Blade

Rt/

He has probably duped the kanaxai already..............

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Make yourselves useful and go do 7th b-day presents dupers.

Whirl E Vic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2009

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Well, destroyer weapons should get cheaper if they can do it with all rare mats Diamonds back below the pre-HoM 1k?

Rare minis market definitely messed up. LoL at stuff like this
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/d...t10509985.html
"to complete the collection", then when you go to his HoM page he has 8 ded.

Time to just bite the bullet and give everyone a panda.

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

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what would be funny is if each gift gave the same item after duped and they started duping only good gifts. 3 people offered to sell me ded pandas so far. that seems high.

superraptors

superraptors

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whirl E Vic View Post
Well, destroyer weapons should get cheaper if they can do it with all rare mats Diamonds back below the pre-HoM 1k?

Rare minis market definitely messed up. LoL at stuff like this
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/d...t10509985.html
"to complete the collection", then when you go to his HoM page he has 8 ded.

Time to just bite the bullet and give everyone a panda.
lol good catch you dug even further

David Moonbow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

If You Build It They Will Come

W/Rt

has no one seen what happened in 2007.... if u own a dupe item/s its a ban hammer as well i dont know why ppl are buying known duped items everyone should hold out and watch what happens...

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whirl E Vic View Post

Rare minis market definitely messed up. LoL at stuff like this
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/d...t10509985.html
"to complete the collection", then when you go to his HoM page he has 8 ded.
Lol read some of his comments here... the dupers cant be happy with him.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whirl E Vic View Post
Time to just bite the bullet and give everyone a panda.
Srsly, after this they should just change the 7th b-day presents to drop Asian minis with normal b-day present drop rates.

superraptors

superraptors

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2008

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Moonbow View Post
has no one seen what happened in 2007.... if u own a dupe item/s its a ban hammer as well i dont know why ppl are buying known duped items everyone should hold out and watch what happens...
people escaped with stacks of armbraces tho, so its possible here, very possible as anet doesn't really give a shit anymore.


anyways im off to bed pce.

Lordkrall

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2011

W/

I love how some people here apparently assumes that the ones claiming there is no reason to panic yet needs to show proof.
Shouldn't the people that actually claims the duping going on be the ones that shows conclusive evidence?

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lordkrall View Post
I love how some people here apparently assumes that the ones claiming there is no reason to panic yet needs to show proof.
Shouldn't the people that actually claims the duping going on be the ones that shows conclusive evidence?
Stack of 250 DEDICATED Sapphires in trade. Pandas and IG's showing up left and right. Insane price drops? Dedicated consets?

I think there's pretty sufficient proof.

Not to mention the gamerevision chatlogs that was also linked to discussing the subject.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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BTW: I assume that duped minipets also come out customized and HoM feature which turns customized minis to dedicated is used to get rid of customization, right?

Also, I wonder about Zcoins. They seems like good target to dupe (dupe stacks of silver ones, convert then to gold ones to get rid of customization)

Also, It seems like it would be possible to create uncustomized armbraces by duping (simply dupe Coffers, open them and throw away anything that is not armbrace or mallyx mini)

Speaking of mini mallyx... Any container with minis can be mass duped to get uncustomized mini off it (Royal gift, Nicks gift, pvp strongboxes, imperial guard lockbox...)

Flame of Balthazar can be duped for factions and thus for uncustomized zkeys.

Paper Wrapped Parcel for consets.

You can clean (Sell/Buy) crafting materials or runes/dyes at trader.

Bottom line is, you can not trust uncustomized or unded stuff either.

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

N/Rt

Bah this needs to be fixed asap. Nobody is watching because of the upcoming gw2 stress test I guess.....

the asassina

the asassina

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2010

Who Cares About Me?

A/

http://imgur.com/qc9nH

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Seeing how people are selling for real cash, now I really, REALLY want those Asian miniatures to drop from 7th year presents, and I'll be even more suspicious if someone keeps quickly editing back the wiki every time anyone adds one of them to the list of 7th year presents.

By the way, there was a time that the HoM customized miniatures. Since turning customized miniatures into dedicated ones is a manual process, people could have kept them customized.
So for miniatures that could be obtained before they made the 12 October 2007 update screen captures do not count.

Now, for things like those Sapphires, it's literally impossible to get something like that customized, so if it's not shopped, it's proof enough.

pawning jock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/E

sooo a rise in price for undedicated asian minipets?

Pyrthas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pawning jock View Post
sooo a rise in price for undedicated asian minipets?
Not if they drop from 7th year presents and you can dupe those.

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

Haha, I guess this is a nice oppurtunity to test that theory ;p

Ewon

Ewon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Canada

Graduates of Pre Searing [GPS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by the asassina View Post
Getting banned for duping a Kirin... lmao

the asassina

the asassina

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2010

Who Cares About Me?

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ewon View Post
Getting banned for duping a Kirin... lmao
i prefer cupcakes now, http://imgur.com/2Hg8w

crazy daggerfighter

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2009

Belgium: GMT+1

[MoO], [ohhi]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by the asassina View Post
This is legit i think. You used to "costumize" your minipets to HoM, but they were untradeable after you costumized them. They changed this later into dedicating minipets, you could change a costumized minipet into a ded one by simply bringing it back to HoM. I still have a costumized mini pig sitting in my bank.

And the duped minipets seem to be dedicated.

Pyrthas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by the asassina View Post
i prefer cupcakes now, http://imgur.com/2Hg8w
Both of your pictures look photoshopped. The C and D don't line up on the Kirin, and the bottom borders are screwed up on both (and it looks like there's too much space between the customization line and the rest).

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

OK, let's take it easy here, folks. This is a dupe, but it's nowhere near as bad as the one in 2007 because the items come out with the mark of Cain on them. As zwei2stein pointed out, this will wreak havoc with the prices of items that can be effectively laundered by opening duped items. Expect the armbrace market and pets that come out of Coffers/Royal Gifts to go through the floor. And if you have a legit dedicated Asian mini, you have my sympathy.

Otherwise, this isn't nearly as disruptive as the last dupe. Prices on ectos/sapphires/rubies will crater at the trader, but once the ersatz ones are removed it will be just like the trader reset in 2005.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
Seeing how people are selling for real cash, now I really, REALLY want those Asian miniatures to drop from 7th year presents, and I'll be even more suspicious if someone keeps quickly editing back the wiki every time anyone adds one of them to the list of 7th year presents.
Why would you want that? That would just crash the prices of things that people obtained legitimately.

I'm leaning towards the thesis that they don't come out of 7th year gifts, since all the ersatz Asian pets so far are dedicated. Surely someone smart would have been pumping out apparently legitimate unded Kanaxais by now if it were possible.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyrthas View Post
Both of your pictures look photoshopped. The C and D don't line up on the Kirin, and the bottom borders are screwed up on both (and it looks like there's too much space between the customization line and the rest).
Except it is very well possible that customized kirin does exist without duping.

Maybe shopped, but hardly impossible.

Pyrthas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
Except it is very well possible that customized kirin does exist without duping.

Maybe shopped, but hardly impossible.
Oh, yeah, I didn't mean to say it was impossible. Just that his picture was bs.

ACWhammy

ACWhammy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2009

Texas

Gold Trim Guild [gtg]

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I have 8 customized minis that I bought from different players around 6 months-1 year ago. Only minis that were out before october 2007 were legitmiately customized.

For example if you see a customized Mad King Thorn or Gwen Doll its non-legit, but a customized Kirin is perfectly plausable.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Alvito View Post
Why would you want that? That would just crash the prices of things that people obtained legitimately.
There are a very small few that obtained them legitimately, a much smaller number then there are of the Asian minis. A high number of the people that have them got their mini(s) through less than honorable means.

A good reason as to why so many are pissed about the rarity of these minis is because they are some of the best looking ones around and people from America/Europe had no chance of obtaining one unless they had stacks of armbraces on hand.

It would suck for the people who got their the legit way but many more people be would happy then those that wouldn't be.

kmoese

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2012

ING: King of Kmoese

German Trade Elite [金金金金]

W/Mo

Only dedicate your customized minipets

Anbu Soul Worshiper

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2011

Sweden

Myth And Legends [Myth]

R/A

i just have to repost it, Very funny and apparently Arms can be duped with out customized apperance.

Andemius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Vanguard's Last Stand [Hero]

W/

so whats the deal, should I buy shedloads of sapphires and wait for the fix to come around or what?

tbh, at this stage in the game, I'd be tempted to try this if it wouldn't ruin your HoM for gw2.

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andemius View Post
so whats the deal, should I buy shedloads of sapphires and wait for the fix to come around or what?

tbh, at this stage in the game, I'd be tempted to try this if it wouldn't ruin your HoM for gw2.
Sapphires through player to player trades, HELL no.

Sapphires from trader, hell yeah.

tummlykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

I still need to buy FoW armour for my HoM but ecot is insanely expensive. I only have around 800k, I'm tempted to cash in now to buy it because the trader has them as 7.5k I think a few days ago they were around 10k? I haven't been paying attention.

Is this a good or a bad time to buy ecto? It'd be great if an exploit like this indirectly helped out a lot of players who don't farm for thousands of hours on end.

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by tummlykins View Post
I still need to buy FoW armour for my HoM but ecot is insanely expensive. I only have around 800k, I'm tempted to cash in now to buy it because the trader has them as 7.5k I think a few days ago they were around 10k? I haven't been paying attention.

Is this a good or a bad time to buy ecto? It'd be great if an exploit like this indirectly helped out a lot of players who don't farm for thousands of hours on end.
Only need 4 pieces (no head) in order to get HoM points. Aka 105 ecto + 105 shards. If you can manage to buy for 15/100k (6,66k each) this is a very nice time to buy em.

jayson

jayson

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

So can the birthday tonics be duped as well? Because I was in Kama 3 days ago and a player was selling tonics. I wanted to get a Zhed and asked him if he had one. His reply was "How many do you need?" So I asked him how much and the price he quoted was too high for me. So I said no thank you. He messaged me back lowering the price and again I said no thank you. On the third message he asked me what I would want to pay for it. I just walked away after that.

I should've saved the name now I guess. But I didn't know about the duping at the time.

Kelvin Greyheart

Kelvin Greyheart

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Think it was mentioned before, but there are many things that are not safe here. Many items can be gotten from items like royal gifts, nick gifts, and such can give you things like full consets, stacks of rock candy, etc. Coffers can give you large quantities of diamonds, rubies, and sapphires as well. All of this would bypass the time consuming process of feeding materials to the traders and rebuying.

Assuming the customized stuff is true, the only thing I can think of that could even show signs of an attempt at tampering is loot drops, and items like HoD swords that can no longer be obtained. Everything that has a source that isn't exclusively tied to random drops is potentially open to abuse. That would include anything dropping out of the z chest because the keys can be duped. I'd think a good portion of the dungeon and FoW/UW drops would be safe though.

Still, we do not know the limitations on this process for certain. One cannot go wrong with simply playing it extremely safe and avoiding all trade with anyone you do know know and trust fully for the time being.

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Originally Posted by Purely Purity View Post
Heh... I personally saw 37 sapphires being traded for my armbrace... /REJECTED
Coming from someone who routinely partook in match manipulation, has had several accounts terminated for botting, as well as recently tried to sell an account and got hardcore scammed, that's a rather ironic statement.

You seem perfectly content to try and cheat the system yourself. There is little, if any, appreciable difference here. All the equivocation and evasion you can muster doesn't change your actions. Go bot your strongboxes, and get played like a harp by scams from people in 'Florida' using prepaid phones.

tummlykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabs88 View Post
Only need 4 pieces (no head) in order to get HoM points. Aka 105 ecto + 105 shards. If you can manage to buy for 15/100k (6,66k each) this is a very nice time to buy em.
I still wouldn't have enough. I could get the ecto I need but not the obsidian, and this is my fortune from seven years of playing - I don't farm much at all.

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

I just got my obby and yes, the shards are hardest to come by. After 2 awful days hanging around in the marketing hotspots I gave in and bought them from the rare mats trader

Sorry, where were we?

Oh yes, continue duping conspiracies.