Duplication. The truth with instructions.

It's in the same place it always is.

Technical/manpower issues aside with this I'm more curious why they aren't proactively banning.

I really believe it's those people who screw up the ecto/gem price

No it doesn't really, they don't have the staff to work on both. GW2 is a huge project, and ANet is incredibly busy fixing bugs, GW1 isn't going to crash and burn, the duping will get fixed eventually. This isn't the first time this has happened.

That must be why GW2 has a monthly 15 dollar subscription, because they're sooo greedy. Damn those ANet bastards. You've opened my eyes, their evil scheme is revealed..

You guys are little by little reminding me of the WoW forums.. that is not a good thing.

How about having a little patience and saying thanks for what 7 years of awesome for around 120 bucks if you bought the campaigns new like I did.

The little patience goes out after 3 years of waiting for the promise PvP changes .. Oh and the turtle is still bugged in FA and heroes are still cancel casting in PvE..( bugs that occurred 3 years ago).

We can't deny that they've tried to do stuff in PvE , but we can't deny 2 other things :
- the first 4 years have been much better than the last 3, especially in terms of cheating in PvE and PvP
- there were still many costumes, don't forget it

I totally disagree, if they care about their GW1 customer base more than GW2 money, they would have prioritized fixing this GW1 loophole above the GW2 release. Apparently their current customers come second place to money and greed.

Closer to GW2 release and we see GW1 maintenance gets left on the wayside. First our Live Team gets moved, then our weekly event update notes stopped (at least this one seems to come back for this weekend, but conflicts with the wiki info), etc. What's next? Duping exploit not addressed until much later?

Except that ANet already knows about this, this has been reported to them several times already.

so now would be a good time to make vabbian armor with the prices so low?

even better time if u buy duped rub and sapphire.
the best if u dupe them but that's another story

i know links arent liked here, but this is a thread right about THIS topic
and should state some stuff clear

http://www.gamerevision.com/showthre...-the-dupe-dude

edit: sry just noticed i copied the wrong link

i have just a few words:

the duping isnt that bad anymore, as most people left GW by now AND they dealt with it before, and i didnt see GW die after they took their time to get rid of duping

then 1 quote from stumme:
thats official, so GW isnt going to be left alone, its just gonna be less looked at, at the moment

most people who always had faith in Anet surely show they dont have faith in them in these kinds of topic

they will fix the duping for sure, it just takes time AND they have but a few working on GW, as GW2 at the moment needs more attention
after GW2 release, i bet they work a bit more toward GW, slowly

they just gotta regroup and slowly see who'll go back to GW once its done

this will take a long time maybe, but i have never seen any other MMO having this kinda team who keeps the older game going on as much as they may do

i bet they will give us bigger updates (no expansions or campaigns) so that we in GW can have more fun even after GW2 got released

man, for such faithful community, we sure have alot who dont believe in Anet as much as they tell us o_O

they already fixed it as stated in my link above
and pretty fast though!

*oh they did?

well, i didnt mean just that, i meant they keep GW going with anything, any kinds of needed changes will be made even after GW2 release

if they already fixed it, why are people still talking like they never fixed stuff when needed

* i dunno much about duping and such, i know its method (from hearing/reading), but i never done it and never will do so... besides, it doesnt even work anymore.... i hope

Cool! If that is the case then thank you ANet for still not forgetting about your GW1 customers.

Well if it is true Im glad they fixed it. Some skepticism still exists as to whether or not they truly fixed it though because of their dodgyness to call it a crash bug fix instead of saying fixed an exploit.

ppl don't have to force anet but trust them obv this timeline have to be true

sometimes u can obtain things without forcing other, that's the good things in world


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Timeline:
Item Creation exploit was discovered on 9th of may around 11pm by someone
Someone leaked it in the evening of the 10th
11.05.2012, 20:50 - Martin Kerstein got informed about it on Wartower
~ 11pm Guild Wars was taken down for "emergency maintenance"
a patch was applied that disabled the NPC's needed to perform the item creation - Stephane Lo Presti called it a "Crash bug fix"
two hours later ArenaNet patched again, re enabling the NPCs, but fixed the exploit - Stephane Lo Presti called it "Crash bug fix nr 2"

That is true, but what I outlined is universally agreed way of handling exploits and trusting or not trusting company to do the right and responsible thing should not be factor here - this is how it is done.

meh, just couse what U outlined is universally the way of handling exploits doesn't mean it's the good way.
couse we had 2 days of duping after that anet did something about it
if someone like u posted somewhere "how to dupe couse anet is bad and won't fix until everybody duping " we prob had more ppl duping more ban (if they are actually banning for this) and more problem in the game.

but that's they way of handling esploits

meh and more meh

Ideally that should be true but not every situation that happens in this world is IDEAL. Historically, not every company has addressed their bugs promptly, and many of their customers had their systems compromised in the process.

At least this is fixed, hopefully.

Usually security patches that fix certain exploits are publicized, but ANet probably has a different policy.

Another game I used to play used to update the code to mark accounts that had done dodgy stuff for about 24 hours before they implemented the fix, so that they could sit and watch who was responsible and then go back afterwards, ban them and patch things up...maybe that second update was something similar.

that sounds like a good system to catch haxors

Then i would be marked due to that i transfer 500-600k daily throughout my accounts.

But sounds ok, with some fixes.

I don't put much care about that as long as it doesn't affect the market. And guess what, my ectos went down 25% of price in a couple of days.

this still hasnt been fixed

It's fixed already.

proof?
............

It's not fixed.

Okay, let's clear some things up here first. This thread is called "Duplication. The truth with instructions." but ironically holds no truth what so ever.

First, let me clear some things up: I don't know anyone of the players that is currently doing the exploit, nor do I know the details of their operation, but I know the big lines. I have no interest in their ways of making money and honestly don't give a flying shit about their abuse either, it makes no difference to me, because I've long stopped caring about this game.

Now, for my objection with this thread: the duping bug was fixed in 2007. The exploit currently used is not duping existing items, but flat out creating new items out of thin air. I know that guru won't allow me to go into too much detail, but basically they're using a third party program that they wrote and created themselves to completely mess with the game (I know the basic idea behind it, but don't know how it exactly works) and create new items. That's as much details I think I can give without pissing off mods. The items are customized to the players using the exploit because of how they do it. I know from a reliable source who actually knows one of the people doing it that they're still doing it. Anet fixed it the first time when they "fixed a crash bug" but they have already fixed their program to keep doing it. However, they excluded the flat out retards that leaked the sapphires and rubies, and those guys aren't doing it anymore, because, well, they're retards for leaking the info. Now the ones that are still doing it never created any sapphires or rubies because of obvious reasons, they're customized, so you can't sell them. What they're doing is creating hundreds of thousands of DoA gems, clearing on of the areas and making thousands of armbraces that they then sell on cash for currency sites. They're only making items that they can wash of, like gems.

Anet knows this, but they can't trace them because of how their program is written (I honestly don't know how though, all my knowledge regarding their ways was limited to some of the info I gave above and a little more). And more even, they can't find them because they immediatly wash away their gems and as such they can't find out who did it. I know Anet can damn well ban anyone they see fit without explanation and there is nothing you can do about it, but they simply can't find the bastards.

Now, here's where I start caring, because not only did they write the program for GW1, they already wrote the program for GW2 as well and damn well plan on doing the exact same thing they're doing now. They're going to test it on the next BWE too see if it works.

The problem we have with these people is that they are very smart people. They are pretty damn good programmers and they will very likely always be 1 step ahead of Anet, abusing their game to make real life money.

There you go, here's the actual truth with actual instructions.

If anyone asks for the source of my information, the person is also a guru member, and I'm not going to give away his identity, he can post to confirm if he sees fit, but I have no reason to abuse of his trust.

Theory of everything?

The last one made my day. You should be a fabulist or politician.

LOL

Give these poor losers my sympathy.

A lot of assumptions in the method.

Even if it's true, isn't that why they implemented Mail in GW2 to track everything.

Do you think they'd make me a henchman tonic for like 5 bucks?

If all the items that result in the dupe process are customized to the one that used the bug to get them then there is a way to detect the accounts involved in such things. Basicaly they have to log all the items created in the game with all the attributes those items were created (it doesn't matter if the item was not picked up, or that it was sold to npc or that it was transformed in something else later, the main idea is to log all the items created). Let's say that after 24h the logs with the items created in the game in the last 24h are analyzed for abnormal items (like customized sapphires). (Huge log I know.) The result will be the name of the accounts that are involved in the dupe issue. Then you just have to log every damn bit they exchange with the server and see how they do it and the fix should popup fast.
(I don't know exactly how gw servers arhitecture is but the fact that gw is an instance base game can be a problem in the attempt to get a log with all the items created in the game in 24h.)

If not all the items that result in the dupe process are customized then to be honest it will not be easy at all to catch them.

A coder will not really see the bugs that can be exploited in what he coded. (Yes if he find out how someone is exploiting some of the mistakes he did in his code he will fix it. I assume here that he is not involved in sabotage, cause if he is involved in sabotage he is basicaly creating the bugs on purpose.) If the same people that coded the parts from gw that are exploited by the dupers coded same parts in gw2 it will not be a surprise to see that those code lines look relative similar and because are relative similar same things can be exploited in both games.

Offtopic: earthquake while i was writing...

Ohai, werent you the one selling all those rare items you never had?

I'm willing to bet that I'm reading in the next browser tab the source of your information. I also do know two of the players involved in the recent exploit. It doesn't work quite the way you think it does; the tools they used were already built into the game and they found it on accident using normal botting programs.

Sky ain't falling man. Just turnin' an odd shade of blue.

I'm' not trying to come up with ways but judging by a screenshot showing eotn and the Vanguard guy. Maybe it has something to do with him creating a book for you however the item ID is somehow modified. That's all im guessing...i'm not obviously trying to figure out what really goin on

Shouldnt it then be possible to do this with all npcs that send you an item?

lol... ye now that you mention it I remember that malice guy He was selling imaginary kanaxais, pandas and what not on guru. People fell for it and actually waited for weeks for him to return from his 'trip' to hmm... now was it the Amazon??? Or Narnia or Wonderland whatever rofl was epic

Essentially, that's how they do it, yes. Just like the eotn books etc, no idea how they found it though. Whatway might know more about it.

I never claimed I had the exact details of their operation, and I just gave the slim outlines of how I heard they did it.

But still, it ain't no duping, nor do I believe the "sky is falling" I just wanted to have some things cleared up.

What a bummer. I understand why people do this, but I abhor it. Nothing beats the true satisfaction you get from winning a match legitimately or from making coin honestly. It's too bad criminals are gamers too.

The exploit has been fixed and there is a link to a post explaining the duping exploit. Shouldn't this thread be closed by now?

Man, simple detection method would be to just log every pattern of "This item has been customized for" and do a counter for each account.... Oh, look there are accounts that suddenly have 646874984164987 customized items in a single day... I wonder if they're duping.... /banhammer.

Where is the link located?