Update - Thursday, May 17, 2012
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Alliance Battle Updates
Increased Alliance Battle score multiplier for Imperial faction gain from 4 to 10.
Decreased win bonus for Alliance Battles from 2000 Imperial faction to 1000 Imperial faction.
Increased underdog multiplier for Alliance Battles from 100% and 200% to 300% and 500%.
Increased Imperial faction per kill in Alliance Battles from 30 to 40.
Increase Balthazar faction per kill in Alliance Battles from 10 to 20.
Title Change
Decreased the title rank required to get maximum effectiveness from title-based PvE skills.
Environment Effect Update
Stone Spores (PvP): causes a 33% reduction in outgoing damage and healing, as well as -2 to all attributes. Additionally, areas affected by Stone Spores always remain active, instead of toggling on and off.
Miscellaneous
Added a sweets-exchange NPC to the Great Temple of Balthazar.
Increased Alliance Battle score multiplier for Imperial faction gain from 4 to 10.
Decreased win bonus for Alliance Battles from 2000 Imperial faction to 1000 Imperial faction.
Increased underdog multiplier for Alliance Battles from 100% and 200% to 300% and 500%.
Increased Imperial faction per kill in Alliance Battles from 30 to 40.
Increase Balthazar faction per kill in Alliance Battles from 10 to 20.
Title Change
Decreased the title rank required to get maximum effectiveness from title-based PvE skills.
Environment Effect Update
Stone Spores (PvP): causes a 33% reduction in outgoing damage and healing, as well as -2 to all attributes. Additionally, areas affected by Stone Spores always remain active, instead of toggling on and off.
Miscellaneous
Added a sweets-exchange NPC to the Great Temple of Balthazar.
StormDragonZ
Honeycombs for Root Cakes? Sounds silly, but alright...
Anyways, will AB finally be lively again, letting ANet take out the JQ botters?
Also, I see no change in the titles. Am I missing something?
Anyways, will AB finally be lively again, letting ANet take out the JQ botters?
Also, I see no change in the titles. Am I missing something?
Swingline
You only need r5 in EotN reputation titles to get your PvE skills to max effectiveness.
I think for SS/LB you only need r4.
I think for SS/LB you only need r4.
Whatway
...Why would you want to trade the bigger AB win for the smaller individual kill bonus?
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Star_Jewel
Which is probably the only way to make the random chaos worth playing, considering so many people just run after players and don't bother capping.
Interesting to see so many changes. I guess we were a little presumptuous to wail about the sky falling when they said they'd be moving the live team over to GW2.
I have absolutely no idea why they changed PvE skills, though, with all they've been doing to make it easy to max our titles. *shrug*
Sweets trader is interesting. Removes necessity to kill ourselves over and over to use up DP removers, I guess.
Interesting to see so many changes. I guess we were a little presumptuous to wail about the sky falling when they said they'd be moving the live team over to GW2.
I have absolutely no idea why they changed PvE skills, though, with all they've been doing to make it easy to max our titles. *shrug*
Sweets trader is interesting. Removes necessity to kill ourselves over and over to use up DP removers, I guess.
Swingline
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I have absolutely no idea why they changed PvE skills, though, with all they've been doing to make it easy to max our titles. *shrug*
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I also assume the underdog bonus was increased to nudge the kurzicks out of shitterlands. This will probably keep AB on the middle map more.
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Honeycombs for Root Cakes? Sounds silly, but alright...
Anyways, will AB finally be lively again, letting ANet take out the JQ botters? Also, I see no change in the titles. Am I missing something? |

Porkchop Sandwhiches
Holy smokes, I have to say I am really surprised AB got any kind of update. I have missed the time I spent in AB. We'll see if this means more warm bodies...
Daltanis
Ive always wondered about this. Ive been playing MMOs for over 10 years and have never played a game with anywhere near as much grind as this game has.
Changes are nice though. I expect they will continue doing little things like this, or maybe even major changes once GW2 launches.
Changes are nice though. I expect they will continue doing little things like this, or maybe even major changes once GW2 launches.
Voodoo Rage
Wow, that PvE update is actually a pretty huge power creep for a lot of us players. I know a lot of you are running around with GWAMM's and maxed PvE titles but personally I tend to play a crapload of different toons and this is great.

Da Kenster
This coincides greatly with the AB bonus weekend.
Daesu
This is great. Seems you get a +5 rank PvE skill effectiveness from this update, so if you are r5, you can already get the old r10 PvE skill effectiveness.
Star_Jewel
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I know a lot of you are running around with GWAMM's and maxed PvE titles
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And the difference in effectiveness between R1 and max was so slight, the only people I can see really benefiting are the farmers and SC'ers.
Not that I'm complaining, mind you (I have a lot of non-max alts, too, and do a bit of solo farming). It's just a surprising change at this stage of the game.
It certainly explains the abrupt deviation from the automatic schedule we'd been following for the past two years. Looking forward to seeing some life in there this weekend (I'd like to see that border move!).
Loki Seiguro
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That's actually what has me scratching my head. With all the bonuses we've been getting lately, making it so easy to have full halls and GWAMM, I can't imagine there being a significant portion of the community that needs this.
And the difference in effectiveness between R1 and max was so slight, the only people I can see really benefiting are the farmers and SC'ers. Not that I'm complaining, mind you (I have a lot of non-max alts, too, and do a bit of solo farming). It's just a surprising change at this stage of the game. It certainly explains the abrupt deviation from the automatic schedule we'd been following for the past two years. Looking forward to seeing some life in there this weekend (I'd like to see that border move!). |
Leohan
anti-grind philosophy?
Then why have a I spent years of my life getting titles..lol
Took 3 years to get Max Lucky title & Only 5,423 more chest to open.
The 7th birthday bonus week was the real anti grind game..lol
And finally after every update for more then a year to murder Alliance Battles something was done to balance something out.
I guess after the population of Zaishen quest days and weekend bonus was still at zero, it was time to do something about it.
Then why have a I spent years of my life getting titles..lol
Took 3 years to get Max Lucky title & Only 5,423 more chest to open.
The 7th birthday bonus week was the real anti grind game..lol
And finally after every update for more then a year to murder Alliance Battles something was done to balance something out.
I guess after the population of Zaishen quest days and weekend bonus was still at zero, it was time to do something about it.
Daesu
Due to the boost in the underdog bonus, I'll be surprised if it doesn't move.
Whatway
Actually... this will make for much more active farming and speedclearing too. All it takes is 3 full NM books + the one you do while finishing EotN, and you get LB to 3-4 just by finishing the campaign. I wonder if we'll see DOA groups open up for the first time.

Skyy High
Aesthetic grind is optional. When people say GW doesn't have grind, they mean that someone who has been playing 7 years isn't innately more powerful than someone who's been playing for just a few months. Reducing the title requirements to get max effectiveness on these skills is consistent with this philosophy, and it really takes care of one of my biggest problems with these skills.
afya
>>Decreased the title rank required to get maximum effectiveness from title-based PvE skills.
Wow, they buff that as if PVE skill isn't OP enough.
Wow, they buff that as if PVE skill isn't OP enough.
ruk1a
Hey I'll hop on if people are actually playing AB, miss that shit.
Trader of Secrets
Finally converter for my candy canes to quick use sweets!!!
Kook~NBK~
I can take candy canes that I've had taking up inventory space since the first Wintersday into spammable sweets? COOL!
Whatway
For those of us with pumpkin pie slices... drive on. Ain't no love for the pumpkiny goodness.
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EPO Bot
I really like the lower req for EOTN skills since i already got those titles on my main and i finally made a second character three days ago.
No complaits here.
No complaits here.
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
both SS and eotn skills being effective on lower rank o_O nice, just too bad i cant see if its the same with kurz/lux ones, wiki doesnt give a rank where it ends going up
would've loved if they added a bit more to the higher ranks
but this is nice too
ps. see? they didnt leave GW to death
would've loved if they added a bit more to the higher ranks
but this is nice too
ps. see? they didnt leave GW to death

Sethellington
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both SS and eotn skills being effective on lower rank o_O nice, just too bad i cant see if its the same with kurz/lux ones, wiki doesnt give a rank where it ends going up
would've loved if they added a bit more to the higher ranks but this is nice too ps. see? they didnt leave GW to death ![]() |
Having said that, SY! started being 6 seconds before max. My Elemental Lord last for 56 secs with r5, which would have been r10 before.
As for the latter part, I really don't think PvE skills need buffing any more!
Abedeus
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on the contrary...ppl like me have main chars that they play..say ranger and ele?which aren't used in some SC, as well all know Sins are the most used in most SC (or maybe that just got I see it) so if I were to make a sin for SC only or farming I would not have to farm r8 or 10 norn, asura etc before being able to use it for SC....so I think its a ncie update and I might make a sin now
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I don't think I've ever been in a group in any elite area other than once in The Deep as splinter barrage and Famine in DoA.
Zenzai
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How come I can't exchange Apples or Corn? I have lots of those I don't want to use.
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Edit: Perhaps you misunderstand what the Baker does. He exchanges non-spammable sweets for spammable ones.
Zenzai
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SonicDeluxe
Zenzai
I guess they are compensating further for the lack of players when GW2 goes live. Make the PvE a bit easier to grind the titles. But yeah, with 8 heroes and all the skills that currently exist, most users probably won't have much trouble, unless they royally suck.
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There is a point, you derp. Why spend time spamming if you can trade up for something with less clicks in a fraction of the time? It will also restore the prices of the overly farmed event items as there are less of them.
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>>Decreased the title rank required to get maximum effectiveness from title-based PvE skills.
Wow, they buff that as if PVE skill isn't OP enough. |
There is a point, you derp. Why spend time spamming if you can trade up for something with less clicks in a fraction of the time? It will also restore the prices of the overly farmed event items as there are less of them.
~ Angel ~
You can exchange 50 pumpkin cookies for 1 delicious cake. That's less clicking...sooo not seeing your point. Other than you want to exchange 50 corn or apples for delicious cake, now that would be handy. I haven't tried that though.
Zenzai
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Zenzai
I tried. He doesn't acknowledge you have other sweets. Another point I just thought of: People will be less likely to make/use bots to spam points if they can trade up.
drkn
Zenzai - your point is not the point of Kazuma's introduction, period. I do see where you're coming from, but in the end, you can easily use up all stacks of apples, as opposed to pumpkin cookies.
You got an inch but you'd like the whole mile. Sorry.
You got an inch but you'd like the whole mile. Sorry.