Will there be more "Beyond" content?

I was really looking forward to the founding of Ebonhawke, the recalling of the Ebon Vanguard, etc.

Do we know, or has anyone read anywhere, if they plan to still do some more "GW:Beyond" content, even if its after the 8/28 release of GW2? I searched on here and in other on-line forums and such, with no real luck.

I'd love to see the story kind of tied up, at least to a jumping off point to shoot you into GW2. And, yes, it is close to that now...but it would just "feel" better if we got some more stuff to be a part of...kind of like they did with GW:EotN...

Maybe I'm too sentimental about this game and its story, but it really feels like its just gonna be left "dangling"...and I hope that doesn't happen.

Any insight form the MODs, or DEVs is most welcome.

your guess is as good as ours, however, with the recent changes they have made (no new masks for festivals) its not a good sign for future updates--we shall see I guess

That's what I am afraid of...thought I saw something on here about the LIVE team being moved over to help finish up GW2, but couldn't find the thread again...I HOPE we get a bit more.

Thanks for sharing my concern Cos...

It probably depends on how much of the Live Team returns to GW1 after the release. The Live Team will likely stay on GW2 until the launch bugs are worked out and for a while after; only once operations are smooth would there be a chance for some to transition back to GW1 support. Until then, we'll have largely minor tweaks.

Honestly, one thing I can see them doing is delaying the release of the Beyond content for Elona until they begin work on the expansion/campaign leading into the GW2 iteration. It would provide GW1 players new content and act as advertising for new GW2 content.

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I think the real issue was they planned Beyond to hype GW2 but underestimated the time it would take to complete it. WiK was pushed out fairly quickly, but there was a year downtime before WoC started, and that took twice as long as WiK to release all the content. By that point, the Live Team was likely under pressure to automate enough features that they could transition to GW2.

I'm still waiting for the more from Mad Kings court we were told was coming. There was nothing new last Halloween.

Done WIK on 5 characters, sometimes NM, sometimes HM. WOC on one, and only in NM.

woc was huge...and took way too long to get moving...wik was nice and short--would like something a bit longer than wik, but no wheres as long as woc. I have completed wik on 10 characters while only less than half that for woc--just not as much fun.

I hope they come back, but I am not holding my breath--shall we say. We have been told things in the past only to have them change.

probably, but not for a long time, if they still do it

i think they will, but first GW2 will have to be completed, by fixing bugs and flaws (flaws are kinda more mistakes and/or incomplete stuff, i guess)

Nightfall's story still needs to told, but if they do come back to making content for GW1 to tell that story, it won't be for a long time. If they decide to at all.
All updates show they are preparing GW1 for a life cycle of nothing new.
The new NPC's Noblewoman Sun Li& Imperial Supply Master Kagno show this.
The updates that happen to GW1 now, are to allow the game to run in a loop without having to provide anything new.
I refer to this Support forum post as well to their future plans https://forum.guildwars.com/forum/fo...ge/1#post11864

Unfortunately this tactic, as always shown to become a self fulfilling prophecies, online games need new content to keep the majority interest, by not providing this, the low interest in game starts to happen. (5 years ago, on GW2 dev shift/focus.)

I really want the Elona's descent into madness to be told within the game as well. Just Anet as a company may look at the population numbers a year from now and decide it is not worth the effort to do so.
We as a community need to show that we interested in having Nightfall's beyond content produced.

• Small ways are just keep logging into the game.
• Tell your friends about GW1 and show them the game. They might just like it enough to buy it. Same goes for GW2, when in game tell all the new blood that there was a game called Guild Wars before it...lol
• Buy things from the online store for GW1, Anet is awesome, with awesome people. However it is still a company and they are in it for the money and money talks louder than a whispered forum post.
  A character slot here, a storage pane there, every once in a while is something that tells Anet we support them/GW1.

These are just my thoughts on the matter, not saying anyone as to spend money to make Nightfall Beyond happen. Spending money on game is a choice and I like that Anet since 2005 as given us that choice.

The Nightfall story can be told in GW2 as well. Are we looking forward to this knowing that it was us players who left a great evil alive?
(And we gave him back his Bone Palace and scepter and part of his minions.)

So, is Evennia lost in a plothole... forever?

You mean Elona? My guess we will fight there again and get rid of Palawa Joko once and for all.

No, he meant Evennia. Look her up on wiki.

I think this is a key point here. We might see it in the future, but from the way John Stumme said things, it's doubtful that any new content will be coming our way. Most likely that "temporary" move of the Live team will become permanent - happens all the time. Most likely we're only going to see necessary bug fixes for the next few years (like we had for Sun Li yesterday).

GW2 is the flagship now and will be for a while. Whether new players come to GW1 or not or we keep buying things from the store really won't change that. GW2 will be the breadwinner and thus will be the focus of development time and resources. GW1 will just be treading water for the remainder of its lifespan, I fear.

Hanok

This is how I see it. The people making the content needs to be payed. While at the moment GW might see a boost of income from people who wants to enjoy the original game while they wait for GW2, after the GW2 release the amount of games will be barely enough to keep the game running (cost of servers, mods and support).

I understand as a fan of this game that new content would be awesome, but look at it from a commercial point of view. What money is to gain in developing this old game while you can make much more money in further developing GW2?

I think they let the servers running for bout 2 years max and then pull the plug. If you love this game I would rather be more concerned bout that then bout new content.

They said that guild wars servers will run as long as guild wars 2 ones.

No, what they actually said was that GW1 servers will run as long as players are active and playing it. The threshold for number of players and activity was undefined.

considering that nearly the entire Live Team has been moved to GW2, I highly, highly doubt any more GW:B content. Considering the change in festivals, where they won't even have resources to make new hats, that should be a pretty strong indicator.

Honestly, I'd rather it be this way. I want all new content devoted to GW2. Seriously, it's time to move on.

yeah, I doubt that they are going to 'finish' anything...kinda like your favorite tv series that gets canceled without completing the final season (perhaps they will post a twit about it or blog it someplace ---where I wont read it)....but in the end ...I believe we have seen the last major changes to the original game.
so lets all start our creative writing class assignment on--the mad kings court...
next lesson will include 'Evennia--did she make it out of Ascalon'?
/sigh
(not everyone is going to move on...thanks)

I think open storylines might actually be picked up in GW2, it's a great continuation. I can't wait to see what they have in store for GW2 holidays, and I guess the next one would be Halloween!!
I'm virtually positive they'll have even a better holiday event team, with the big increase in staffing. What'll be sweet is brand new holiday events that we haven't ever seen, rather than the same event with different hats and different Mad King jokes.

Evennia will have been dead 250 years...how exactly would you 'pick' that up?

I just want some kind of ending I guess..just knowing what happened (I feel more like I have been watching a really good movie and had to miss the last 30 minutes).

I'd be more interested in fixing attribute lines with few or no playable builds in PvE because of PvP nerfs. Just tweaking some numbers if changing skill functionality is too much work. It's sad that GW2 comes out before some classes get much needed revamps.

My life isn't worth living without Evennia's story being wrapped up tbh

plz guild wars gods, hear my cry! finish her story!!!!!!
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I'll echo uby's lament. If the devs are gonna leave us to our devices, at least leave us with a more 'whole' game than we have now.

There is not a single class in the game that is incapable of playing and beating HM content. Some are more powerful or versatile than others, but everyone has builds that at least work and, honestly, are more powerful than anything we had access to 4 years ago. Nothing needs to be "fixed" to leave the game in stasis.

Given that an empty bar is capable of beating hm content, it's hardly a sign that everything is golden and no changes are needed.

I don't think they will do anything AFTER guild wars 2 is out, sadly. I don't see why they would, they seem to want to get Guild Wars to come to an end now. I haven't even done the beyond stuff for cantha, I couldn't be bothered. I don't see why there would be much story in quests that just tells us to go kill stuff, ALL THE TIME...

So your argument is that some classes are so bad in PvE that they may as well bring an empty bar? Because I think that's BS. The difference between top-tier PvE classes and bottom tier classes (in terms of soloing with 7 heroes) is far smaller than that.

I'm saying that no class is in such a sorry state that they would "need" an update before the game is permanently taken off of support, not that "everything is golden". Do you see the difference?

Relax. What he means is that you can bring a blank skillbar on any class into HM content and succeed. This is done often in hero team build testing. Your argument amounts to "if it can clear HM, it's fine", which is very clearly not the case since you can clear HM content without anything on the skillbar at all.

I would love, absolutely LOVE, if ArenaNet had rangers actually using a bow as part of a meta build for end game at any point in time. The fail way they balanced the game to have rangers shunned or forced into bringing DwG or some other secondary garbage is BS and one of the biggest failures of GW imo. Brief windows of barrage existed but for the most part bow rangers never had a place in the end game meta and that's and absolutely pathetic reflection on the company's ability to balance a game to make it enjoyable (or in some cases, playable - as defined by an equal/close to equal chance to get into a group, for everyone no matter the class).

As far as GW:B getting more content, don't expect anything before the launch of GW2. They took the Live Team off the game earlier this year and at the rate they push out new content, even if they got moved back to GW1 today they wouldn't be able to accomplish anything meaningful. I wouldn't be surprised if they never reform once GW2 launches (despite Stumme saying he wanted to continue GW:B after GW2 launches), it seems much more profitable to put them onto GW2, especially seeing as many of the primary reasons for having them on GW1 are no longer relevant once GW2 launches. Most of the lore gaps will be filled in with text books or dialogue in GW2. Sure we won't experience them, but we will know the details of certain events taking place. To be completely honest, most of the GW:B content (especially the WiK stuff) was very light in lore value. The plot development was almost paper thin and most of the content was gameplay with little story backing it up. WoC was different (with a lot more story involved) but less directly relevant to GW2 (seeing as Cantha is closed off - although it probably offered more closure than what we would have gotten otherwise from GW2 alone).

Winds of Change actually had a lot of plot and character development. It was one of the more fleshed out and story driven parts of the game.

The biggest disappointments for me are that we never got to see Ebon Hawke founded and we never got to continue the story into Ascalon. Evenia's disappearance is kind of an annoying lose thread to leave open so obviously. I wish they had managed to clear that one up before GW2 launched.

Maybe there is an opportunity to create mirrored storylines in GW1 and GW2. They want to bring in a new mystery or a new faction in GW2 and link it to the past, or flesh out its story in the world 250 years ago so they could release content in GW1 which continues to develop into content from GW2.

Regardless I think it's unlikely we will see more GW:B content, before or after GW2.

I wonder if there are going to be any more hints towards GW2 when the release date is nearing.

It's possible the Live Team put something together and it's on the back burner until near release. They did have the pre-release events for Factions, Nightfall, and EotN after all. Plus, they had a tidy chunk of development time between the final chapter of WoC and their transfer to GW2.

It's possible... but I'm not holding my breath.

BMP style missions, of course. We already had this with certain ranger-turned-to-paragon and it could be done in GW2.

It really depends on how hard it would be to reuse GW1 map geometry in GW2 (or create maps solely for BMP), because after that is is matter of spawns and story.

that doesnt really help gw1
would really like it if they finished what they started!

We'll see Evennia in GW2 as one of Palawa Joko's generals I tell you!

Seriously though, I want to see Ebonhawke founded! And maybe Gwen's first baby too :P

Although I would honestly love to see more Beyond content too and have hoped for a rather long time now that it would happen, I will now say that I find it unlikely to happen.

And those saying WiK is shorther than WoC, did you join in from the very start? I mean as it was first released in little bits. Because as I recall it there was quite some waiting times there too between each bit. The bits were smaller (some were really just watching some npc chatter) but there was waiting. WoC released bigger chunks, thus longer waiting between I guess. But in my memory they are not that different really.

Maybe they mean it's shorter in repeats. When you repeat you don't have all that waiting anymore, and they even cut off most of the dialogues and stuff.
Tbh I loved all those hints and bitty bit given content, it gave much immersion and curiosity.

After seeing how woc ruined for me my favourite continent, I'm not much into seeing the elona part. Same for Evennia, I prefer to leave that like those books with open ending, when they leave to the reader imagining how it really ended. Imho she married Adelbern, or he killed her in his hate for Krytians more likely! Yes yes I have that high opinion of him.
At any rate, like some others I'd prefer they'd really finish working on those professions rather than adding new content, if they really were to still work on the game. You play beyond ones, while skill changes give you lot more to play on. I'd be happy if they left ranger how it is, but paragons can't be left as they are, and the half ele update was...half!

I am assuming by saying wik is shorter they meant the time needed to complete all parts at once sinve WiK only takes a couple hours at most where as WoC takes substantially longer.

Better yet, a random quotation somewhere, like, say, a gravestone with her name carved on it, and a short summary of what we've been missing about her.

Problem (apparently) solved, 0 effort required. Perfect Anet style.

This worked fantastic for Saidra and we weren't even given an explanation I can recall as to why her ashes were left in the middle of nowhere.

Perhaps, I never actually did WiK after finishing it on my ranger, because I was so tired of it after farming the wanted quests way too much between the release of each part.
WoC on the other hand I did in nm on 2 extra characters... imo it is easier accessible, no confusion about where to start or where to go next at any point.
I honestly liked both WiK and WoC and don't really understand all the hate on WoC. The way it is introduced and build up etc. etc. but I still like both