So, i imagine by now most people have at least 30 points, if not more on their Hall of Monuments.
Just wanted to know how long it took you guys to get those 30 points we all want so much.
unfortunaly, I only have 13, and wanted to know if i can actually get the remaining 17 points in those 2 weeks prior to the launch of gw2.
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HoM and GW2 right around the corner
Froguito
Perkunas
My guess, most veterans took many many hours of play time. Once the HoM was made available to them and they were able to acquire the 4 tapestries, many had 30+ within minutes to hours of entering their HoM.
Unless you have friends giving you stuff for yours, and depending on how much time you can dedicate to the game, count on many hours of game time.
Unless you have friends giving you stuff for yours, and depending on how much time you can dedicate to the game, count on many hours of game time.
HigherMinion
As soon as the HOM calculator came out I had 40 odd points, so I couldn't say, but most of it isn't too time consuming if you know what you're aiming for.
If you first clear all the content normally you can get plenty of "fast" titles. By that I mean there's seemingly no grind since you're playing through content with a nice storyline and unique areas. The titles are Tyrian, Canthan and Elonan protector/guardian, which give a total of 8 titles. I think you need 10 max for HoM? So then you clear all dungeons and spend all your eotn books on one PvE title. You now have two more titles.
Now on your journeys, you'll have gained the items necessary for the weapons to dedicate, and your hero armours, etc.
tl;dr, it depends how long it takes you to do all that and how good you are at planing.
If you first clear all the content normally you can get plenty of "fast" titles. By that I mean there's seemingly no grind since you're playing through content with a nice storyline and unique areas. The titles are Tyrian, Canthan and Elonan protector/guardian, which give a total of 8 titles. I think you need 10 max for HoM? So then you clear all dungeons and spend all your eotn books on one PvE title. You now have two more titles.
Now on your journeys, you'll have gained the items necessary for the weapons to dedicate, and your hero armours, etc.
tl;dr, it depends how long it takes you to do all that and how good you are at planing.
Winner
It took me about a month to get from 27 to 50 points, without even playing much. Titles are easy to get and don't require that much time. Weapons can be time consuming, depending if you earn them or buy them. All you need for minis and armor is money so is you have it, that will take you no time at all.
EPO Bot
A good way to max out HoM imo, has allways been doing the zaishen missions and vanquishes. It's only two things each day and you can even pug them. If you need to get it done before GW2 tough, your are out of time at this point.
Captain Bulldozer
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Titles are easy to get and don't require that much time. Weapons can be time consuming, depending if you earn them or buy them. All you need for minis and armor is money so is you have it, that will take you no time at all.
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Amy Awien
As far as I know, the HOM doesn't 'freeze' on GW2's launch, so you can add points later.
Master Archer Nente
Took me about 7 months to go from like 3 points to 50/50
akelarumi
The HoM is designed to reward people in GW2 for their dedication in GW1. Now is simply too late to start that dedication and expect full results. That doesn't mean however that you should totally forget bout it. With 13/50 in your hall you either missed some very easy non time consuming ones or you didn't do elite area's. So my suggestion is to find a guild that does those elite area's on a regular basis in a casual way.
BlackAdder77
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Took me about 7 months to go from like 3 points to 50/50
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Was a clean start btw and I got no help aside from max 500 points in consumables all around.
Eternal Equinox
It is simply not realistic to say that GWAMM is easily attainable under six months at this point. The sheer currency required to touch the consumable titles/weapon/armor set requirements is extremely high, and with less and less of said consumables available in this market, it's going to get worse. The prices of everything will skyrocket after GW2 releases.
50/50 is somewhat feasible, 50/50 GWAMM is ridiculous.
50/50 is somewhat feasible, 50/50 GWAMM is ridiculous.
Zylo16
30 points took maybe a few hours of dedicated work, but that was only possible because I had a lot of money to blow on HoM. If I didn't, I'd estimate it'd take 2 or 3 weeks
Perkunas
Just curious, those that took a few days or weeks, would you break that down into hours spent playing? If you used money, materials, or anything gained from other characters on your account, how many hours (/age) have you played your account?
I still say, unless you get outside help, it will take many hours of dedication, to reach 30/50 in HoM.
I still say, unless you get outside help, it will take many hours of dedication, to reach 30/50 in HoM.
Nekodesu
I had 40 points as soon as the HoM calculator came out, and actually, I wasn't gonna get the remaining things cause I thought the tiles where a waste of time, but I kinda felt a sort of pressure on that everybody else of my friends wanted to get, and got, the last 10 points. I just felt I had to do it too, glad I did. But it took me many hours of VQing, mapping and buying minis, and doing DoA.
projectmercy
Well, there's 5 monuments.
Armor: This takes money/resources and mild faction
Weapons: This takes money/resources
Minis: This takes money
Pets/Heroes: This takes money or mild farming, outside of the black widow.
Titles: This takes time, which can be shortened in some cases with money (runs)
As a new player, I didn't have the chest full of ectos, so most of the monuments seem difficult to me. For older players, anything involving money/resources wasn't a big deal. It's just finishing up some titles. If you come in with nothing, and you don't get any external help, then it's a slog to even get to 30. Not impossible, but a decent chunk of effort. The titles aspect of HoM is honestly the only part that shows a person's effort into GW. The rest of it is just about money.
Armor: This takes money/resources and mild faction
Weapons: This takes money/resources
Minis: This takes money
Pets/Heroes: This takes money or mild farming, outside of the black widow.
Titles: This takes time, which can be shortened in some cases with money (runs)
As a new player, I didn't have the chest full of ectos, so most of the monuments seem difficult to me. For older players, anything involving money/resources wasn't a big deal. It's just finishing up some titles. If you come in with nothing, and you don't get any external help, then it's a slog to even get to 30. Not impossible, but a decent chunk of effort. The titles aspect of HoM is honestly the only part that shows a person's effort into GW. The rest of it is just about money.
DreamRunner
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Originally Posted by Eternal Equinox
It is simply not realistic to say that GWAMM is easily attainable under six months at this point. The sheer currency required to touch the consumable titles/weapon/armor set requirements is extremely high, and with less and less of said consumables available in this market, it's going to get worse. The prices of everything will skyrocket after GW2 releases.
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Black Metal
I had about 40 points the second HoM went live because I already had all the stuff done. Took a few hours to max out 50 just had to dedi pets and heroes and stuff.
Winner
Do zaishen combat quests, get factions, exchange then for zkeys, sell zkeys, get rich in no time.
Quite simple.
Quite simple.
bj91x
I just took a look at the HOM calculator and if you're starting fresh, it'll take a player at least a couple hundred hours to get 30 points. Depending on which statues you've obtained so far, you may be able to get 30 points any where in between a few hours to 100 hours of gameplay time. Along with story books and some Zaishen missions while progressing throgh all campaigns for the titles, you may be able to purchase minis, armors, and weapons without needing to farm for gold too much.
For minis, a cheap rare mini plus 19 white minis will get you 4 points.
For heroes, Imperial Phoenix and 19 easy heroes will get you 7 points.
For titles, linking and beating all campaigns in NM and HM will get you 9 points.
For armors, Kurzick/Luxon, Vabbian, and 3 easy armors gives you 6 points.
For weapons, a combination of 5 Oppressor and Destroyer weapons will get you 4 points.
For minis, a cheap rare mini plus 19 white minis will get you 4 points.
For heroes, Imperial Phoenix and 19 easy heroes will get you 7 points.
For titles, linking and beating all campaigns in NM and HM will get you 9 points.
For armors, Kurzick/Luxon, Vabbian, and 3 easy armors gives you 6 points.
For weapons, a combination of 5 Oppressor and Destroyer weapons will get you 4 points.
Pixii
I've been trying to google this question with no results, but does anyone know:
If I display a mini in my HoM and then sell that mini to a player, will my mini disappear in my HoM?
If I display a mini in my HoM and then sell that mini to a player, will my mini disappear in my HoM?
bj91x
No, but when you "use" a mini at the HoM, they become dedicated and are no longer useable on another player's HoM. As such, players generally will not buy dedicated minis.
Zaph
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If I display a mini in my HoM and then sell that mini to a player, will my mini disappear in my HoM?
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EPO Bot
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Originally Posted by Zaph
Mini will not disappear; one dedicated in HoM it will remain there forever.
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Swingline
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If you need to get it done before GW2 tough, your are out of time at this point.
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Mourne
Came back two months ago at 35/50 with 50/50 as a goal. Between using up some old saved cash, trading for even more, and doing a ton of PvE, I'm now 50/50. Also started from 12 max titles and that's climbed all the way to 27/30 for GWAMM, with the only ones left being Tyrian Vanquisher/Legendary Vanquisher, and Legendary Survivor. Really not as bad as I thought it used to be.
FengShuiDove
I had about 42 when the HoM first opened. I had some stuff stored up too so I got up to about 47 in the first day after it went live. That account was pretty easy to get to 50/50.
I've also got a secondary that's at 39. It was pretty much bankrolled by my other account though.
I've also got a secondary that's at 39. It was pretty much bankrolled by my other account though.
SureWhatever
I wouldn't worry about the HoM unless it is for your own personal pleasure. Enjoy the remaining two weeks before the sequel is released. The way people are talking they make it seem as if getting 50/50 takes no time or effort at all and that committing months of your time is not a big deal. I think the reality is that if you haven't been playing for a long time then even specifically targeting HoM goals will take a substantial time investment. I've been playing since the betas and just recently acquired the consumable points for max HoM.
Odds are HoM titles and rewards won't matter a week after release, or maybe even at release.
Odds are HoM titles and rewards won't matter a week after release, or maybe even at release.
fireflyry
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Odds are HoM titles and rewards won't matter a week after release, or maybe even at release.
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It really depends what your after the rewards for personally.If it's personal gratification I'd say they will matter for the life time of GW2 as a memento and reminder of the first game to that particular player, even if they become outdated or surpassed I'd ignorantly assume they will be used, displayed and enjoyed for many years to come.
If it's for e-peen or "Look at me!!I got GWAMM in GW!!" I'd agree other titles/loot will quickly surpass HoM rewards, particularly when you take into consideration the fact much of the player base won't have even played GW1 let alone care that it existed in the first place.
The rewards attained in GW2 will quickly become vastly more desirable to both new players and those with HoM 50/50.
Personally I don't even bother with HoM as I began playing GW directly because of the lack of such mechanics and stuck with the community of friends even after such things began sneaking in.As such I agree newer players are better off playing GW as it was originally intended, pre titles and HoM, as that's why we all liked it to begin with.
I could'nt imagine installing the game only to ignore much of the brilliance and fun on offer just to try and rush a HoM 50/50.
Turns the game from fun into a work simulator but hey...to each their own.
I did raise this issue in-game the other day though and man.....did some people get angry when many players stated they could'nt care less about HoM.
At the end of the day Anet will be happy with how the mechanic worked out as it kept this game alive and relatively populated in place of releasing new content by way of actual expansions.I never agreed with Anet going that way but it accomplished it's goal and more power to them.
Can't wait.
Gill Halendt
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The rewards attained in GW2 will quickly become vastly more desirable to both new players and those with HoM 50/50.
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Expecially since "titles" in GW2 seem to be largely irrelevant and unrappresentative - most of those are more like glorified account statistics that have little e-peen/show off value - as opposed to GW1, where titles progressively got more and more significance among players, to the point that they almost became the sole reason for a lot of them to play this game.
So the attention will likely be somewhere else (Karma rewards?).
I'm just glad I'll be able to use Heritage Armor on my Warrior when I'll start playing, as starter armor looks quite plain and boring. Oh, and the Orange Tabby Cat will be cute to have. That's it.
HigherMinion
The thing is, with the amount of hype over GW2, there has been plenty of time for people to obtain 50/50, whether they're veteran gamers or just got the set. There will be no prestige in having 50/50 for a good five or ten years of the game's life because all you're telling people is you got sucked into Anet's advertising campaign.
Daesu
I checked the rest of the regular achievements titles in GW2 and they are just meh. If I do wear a title in GW2, I will proudly wear my GWAMM or no title at all since it took me a lot of work to achieve it.
Let any who should revive me along the way (which should be often), know that they have revived a god!
Let any who should revive me along the way (which should be often), know that they have revived a god!
Gill Halendt
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Originally Posted by Daesu
I checked the rest of the regular achievements titles in GW2 and they are just meh. If I do wear a title in GW2, I will proudly wear my GWAMM or no title at all since it took me a lot of work to achieve it.
Let any who should revive me along the way (which should be often), know that they have revived a god! |
Whatever... Chances are jerks are going to revive you and then whisper insults at you. I was called "RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOtard" by a guy I revived, and that was just for playing a shotgun warrior, so, well, anything goes...
EPO Bot
Displaying the GWAMM title is seen by some people (wich i refuse to hang out with) as the ultimate sign of incompetence, so you better keep it to yourself.
It's for the same reason why no self respecting pro would ever dye his FoW armor. Because coloring such a trivial chore achievement is admitting that you care about it. And a real pro can buy a Fow outfit twenty times a day.
And admitting you ever play PVE is the king of status ruiners among the legits anyway. So don't admit you play it, let alone enjoy it. You will be sorry you where born.
Trust me. I have been there.
And now that i think of it, all the legits have quit this game after the beta and only complain about the lost glory days on this forum anyway.
Don't bother with GW2 because it will never be as good as it was in the beta. The good old days are over.
So please excuse me as i go pkay some more minecraft.
No wait, that one jumped the shark when it got popular. Gaming in general is no longer something you want to associate with! (throws computer out of window)
It's for the same reason why no self respecting pro would ever dye his FoW armor. Because coloring such a trivial chore achievement is admitting that you care about it. And a real pro can buy a Fow outfit twenty times a day.
And admitting you ever play PVE is the king of status ruiners among the legits anyway. So don't admit you play it, let alone enjoy it. You will be sorry you where born.
Trust me. I have been there.
And now that i think of it, all the legits have quit this game after the beta and only complain about the lost glory days on this forum anyway.
Don't bother with GW2 because it will never be as good as it was in the beta. The good old days are over.
So please excuse me as i go pkay some more minecraft.
No wait, that one jumped the shark when it got popular. Gaming in general is no longer something you want to associate with! (throws computer out of window)
Daesu
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Displaying the GWAMM title is seen by some people (wich i refuse to hang out with) as the ultimate sign of incompetence, so you better keep it to yourself.
It's for the same reason why no self respecting pro would ever dye his FoW armor. Because coloring such a trivial chore achievement is admitting that you care about it. And a real pro can buy a Fow outfit twenty times a day. And admitting you ever play PVE is the king of status ruiners among the legits anyway. So don't admit you play it, let alone enjoy it. You will be sorry you where born. Trust me. I have been there. |
Froguito
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Expecially since "titles" in GW2 seem to be largely irrelevant and unrappresentative - most of those are more like glorified account statistics that have little e-peen/show off value - as opposed to GW1, where titles progressively got more and more significance among players, to the point that they almost became the sole reason for a lot of them to play this game. |
I mean, i barely have 1 year in the game, and i think its pretty hardcore, but from what i seen of gw2 (bought it already =P ), well, not to say it's "vanilla", but doesnt to seem so hardcore oriented to me.
HigherMinion
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with that in heart, i ask you GW veterans, does GW2 seems less hardcore than GW1?
I mean, i barely have 1 year in the game, and i think its pretty hardcore, but from what i seen of gw2 (bought it already =P ), well, not to say it's "vanilla", but doesnt to seem so hardcore oriented to me. |
I wouldn't say it's any easier or harder than GW because Guild Wars has had the problem of having 6 years or so of powercreep, 7H teams make the game too easy.
EPO Bot
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Isn't it ironical that you have to try so hard to convince others that you don't care about what they think of you?
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Winner
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Displaying the GWAMM title is seen by some people (wich i refuse to hang out with) as the ultimate sign of incompetence, so you better keep it to yourself.
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That's the point of gaming (at least on of the points). To achieve something in game and show it to others. If you're #1 hero battles player (I know it's removed) or in #1 GvG guild, or even daily winning HoH, of course you would like people to know about it.
bj91x
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Whole point of titles is to be shown, same as emotes. I played the game and earned my GWAMM and my phoenix emote, of course I'll show them off. Else, what would be the point in having them? And isn't that why most of people want to work on their HoM? It's to show off "cool" weapons and titles in GW 2.
That's the point of gaming (at least on of the points). To achieve something in game and show it to others. If you're #1 hero battles player (I know it's removed) or in #1 GvG guild, or even daily winning HoH, of course you would like people to know about it. |
In fact, I'm completely the opposite in that I don't like to show off. I try to keep all my prestige as secret as possible. Not that I don't appreciate it when people give me praise. When people I never even met know me and give me praises, of course I appreciate it. It's just that when people are calling me by name, smiling, and being friendly, I feel so bad because I don't even know their name.
Plus, there are the annoying and creepy people (most likely some weird kids... no offense to normal kids) who just stalk you or something. Ugh... There are just so many weird people online.
Daesu
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Whole point of titles is to be shown, same as emotes.
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How about a title that says "I'm the humblest person in the world!", how's that for irony?