GW 2? Possible Expansion For GW1?

Soulfire Ninja

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Hey guys,

So I just got back on on GW1 cause I just now regained access to my computer in months! I didn't buy GW2 yet and I'm still thinking of buying it because I just LOVE THIS GAME...well gw1 that is cause I haven't tried yet the sequel and I've come across more negative reviews that basically all Anet did was slap the name Guild Wars on a game that is basically not Guild Wars.

With that said, would anet possibly make a whole new expansion or/and campaign for Gw1? I know a lot of you will say possibly not, but if a lot of people are speaking out on this, it could happen.

DiogoSilva

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The chances for another GW1 expansion are slim to none, I'd say. Besides, the expansions were digging them a deeper hole with this game when it came to balancing, and the engine's pretty outdated. They started a new game for a reason. :P

What we'll probably get is some free content every once and then from the Live Team, if they are still working in this game. And possibly a paragon update.

GW2 is a good game, and has a lot of potential to only get better with time. There are many teams focused on improving all areas of the game - world pve, dungeons, pvp, community, all through free, non-expansion updates. But, it is a pretty different game, so liking GW1 does not necessarily means you will like the sequel, and vice-versa.

ectogasm

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No, but the fact that Anet did not properly follow up on GW1 opens up the opportunity for some other enterprising developer(s) to fill in the gap. I honestly hope that at least one of these aspiring indie devs is paying attention to the business potential of an underserved segment of this market and produces a spiritual sequel to GW1 for all those players who were left out in the cold by GW2.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

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there's a possibility, but anet isnt adding any big things to GW for a long time now... unless we'll be surprised

if GW2 goes better (and maybe GW too), it gives us a bigger chance, if it doesnt, anet may have to either shutdown the games, or find a better way to keep em up

its possible, but not in their planning for a long time now, so they're not even thinking about it in these times

as for GW2, people heard its gonna be different, yet complain cuz its different
and so alot will leave and maybe try again some other time
this can determine GW's future, so lets hope it'll go well... just dont get your hopes up for expansions

new smaller content, like woc and wik however, may come easier

cosyfiep

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guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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expansion? no
new content: possible (yet dont hold your breath).
when they announced gw2 they basically gave up on gw1 (a shame since they could do so much, like sorrows furnace, realms of the gods etc, not to mention the last part of the war in...series.)
gw2 is a totally different game than gw1 and many people have feelings about each.(both good bad and ughly)....would be nice if they did do more for the gw1 crowd.

Age

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It would be nice to have another chapter agian though.

Cuilan

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I hope they consider a Guild Wars sequal. Guild Wars 2 doesn't count.

Iceblue

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I also hope so, GW2 is dead already too....

Saldonus Darkholme

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It is my opinion that, if GW2 tanks (hard to say, considering the stuff I'm reading pro and con), ANet would be FOOLS not to step back to GW1 and try to gear back towards what made GW1 awesome.

At any rate, Soulfire, I would strongly recommend that you really research whether you buy the game or not. From what I've gathered, it plays more like WoW than GW1 (I don't know, never played WoW, but the lack of point-and-click KILLED it for my wife!) If you like the instancing of GW1, you're not going to like GW2. If you don't like enemies respawning after you've killed them, you're not going to like GW2. If you like being able to doubleclick to move to something, follow someone, or move into range and attack, you are not going to like GW2.

For ME, I play the game, but I'm just not excited by it like I was GW1. I find it absolutely MADDENING when I attempt to kill a dragon: you have a whole bunch of people zerging on one taget, half the people die from 1 hit from the dragon, the computer lags so badly, you get something like 1 frame per 1-2 seconds, there's all kinds of buggy events.... OH, and the loot nerf they implemented in GW1 some years back? They just implemented one a month or so back in GW2, so people farming for materials to make high-end things have to farm even longer. Of course, they played the government's doublespeak game and called it "diminishing returns".

If you can find a guild that is active in the entire map, as opposed to just farming "FotM" (Fractals of the Mist, not Flavor of the Month, although it applies!) and you can group up with people, you may enjoy it. It is very difficult to do it all alone, however. Some of the events are designed for groups (some veteran baddies are soloable, but the champion baddies are damn-near impossible!).

Any way, as I said earlier, I'd study up quite a bit before I bought the game. I spent well over $1,000 on GW1, what with 5 accounts, all chapters, and costumes, but I've only spent $60 on GW2....and that is ALL I will spend on it.

My 2 cents, anyway.....

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Considering that the GW1 Dev team has been reduced to a skeleton crew, there is no chance that there will be a new expansion. Additional content, that's very highly doubtful as well.

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I also hope so, GW2 is dead already too....
No it isn't.

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First off all, GW2 is alive and kicking. Some gw1 players like it, and some doesn't. The mayor mistake Anet is making with gw1 atm is what most open world mmo's are making. Not merging servers cause it seems bad advertising.

In essence it is true that merging servers means defeat (you lost customers). But on the other hand there is no shame. It was to be expected. It is a totally different game then gw1 and people dislike it. basic fact is that in general the game is more succesfull then gw1 already. right now though there are too many servers with not so many people on it and those who are there are annoyed by it.

Back to GW1 and a possible expansion. Short answer is no. Do not expect an gw1 expansion. The simple reason is that, even though people who liked gw1 butr dislike gw2 are still there (or have returned), it is an outdated game. They have put all their money on gw2 and they are pulling it off there. They are keeping the gw1 servers alive untill it is not profitable anymore and maybe beyond that for sentimental reasons. But expansions would mean for them admitting failure of gw2, and even though there are people who dislike gw2, it is commercially a success.

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It all depends on the server population of GW and what they read off the boards if there is enough interest.It may bring the older GW players back that aren't playing GW2.

I wouldn't mind a small update like being able to change your skill bars in the instance areas.

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I wouldn't mind a small update like being able to change your skill bars in the instance areas.
lol that's not exactly a small change...

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Considering that the GW1 Dev team has been reduced to a skeleton crew, there is no chance that there will be a new expansion. Additional content, that's very highly doubtful as well.



No it isn't.
Well, from the hours I've been on (European hours on American servers) - yeah its dead.... and I'm comparing the population levels in LA GW1 to populations levels in LA GW2....

Also, although GW2 in open world vs. instanced areas like in GW1, it really makes no difference. You are basically playing on your own. Chat is always dead, unless there's some newb going around with a veteran player helping them out.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

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(1)it is an outdated game. (2)They have put all their money on gw2 and they are pulling it off there. They are keeping the gw1 servers alive untill it is not profitable anymore and maybe beyond that for sentimental reasons. (3) But expansions would mean for them admitting failure of gw2, and even though there are people who dislike gw2, it is commercially a success.
1: its an older game, doenst mean its outdated, as many people still buy GW (whether its cuz of GW2, or cuz they heard about it being good, or saw it and wanna try)

2: if they had put all their money in GW2, that'd be real stupid, so i doubt they did that
bnesides, i've seen some updates after GW2 got here... in GW

3: admitting failure by updating their older game?
does that mean windows vista and 7 are failures? cuz XP still is getting updated (i'm using XP)

thats 1 example, they just put alot of money into GW2 to make it work better (and still doing that), so now they have a "blackout" in using money

i think that if the playerbase is still big enough, and paying well for GW, that they may consider it
then again, it'll take a long while, as GW2 still is new, and so its bugged/glitched/imbalanced etc.

if GW is profitable enough, i'd say it'd be stupid if they let the playerbase, which is still here, die, if they can get money out of it

i'd totally buy another expansion from GW

updating an old game(GW) AND keeping updating a newer game(GW2) means they both do well, not that they admit failure for their newest game

enough companies with older and newer games, which still are updated, look at Perfect World, for example, their oldest game gets new stuff alot (PWi), both new items to buy AND new content

Sofonisba

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i'd totally buy another expansion from GW
I would too, Ayuhmii. In a heartbeat. I definitely won't hold my breath.

The only hope, I think--and it's a slim one--is that ANet will read enough times on the GW2 forum how the original players noticed that GW2 has nothing to do with GW. Maybe they will recognize that they can still serve two different player-bases at the same time with these two *separate* games. Again, I won't hold my breath for it.

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Well, from the hours I've been on (European hours on American servers) - yeah its dead.... and I'm comparing the population levels in LA GW1 to populations levels in LA GW2....

Also, although GW2 in open world vs. instanced areas like in GW1, it really makes no difference. You are basically playing on your own. Chat is always dead, unless there's some newb going around with a veteran player helping them out.
You must be playing on low pop serves during dead hours then. The game is far from dead

DiogoSilva

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LA in GW2 is usually as busy as it used to be in GW1 pre-sequel launch to me, and in GW1 there was usually only 1 to 3 american servers where most of the community went to, including a lot of Europeans, while GW2 has 52 servers.
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The only hope, I think--and it's a slim one--is that ANet will read enough times on the GW2 forum how the original players noticed that GW2 has nothing to do with GW.
Anet was the first to admit that GW2 would be a very different game, long before the game was out and fans realized that. That being said, I hope they consider bringing back some good GW1's features to the sequel.

We would much sooner get a GW2 expansion/ monthly updates to make it closer to GW1, than a GW1 expansion.

Age

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There is still plenty of activity in presearing and it depends on what time of day you are on for LA,Kamaden and Sing Jea.

They could enable the skill window if they wanted to.

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Anet was the first to admit that GW2 would be a very different game, long before the game was out and fans realized that.
I understand that. I read everything ANet put out before GW2, but I didn't know they were talking to me when they said I wouldn't recognize the game. I thought they meant the rest of the gaming community. I also didn't know I'd be bored after a couple months there.

It's all easy in retrospect.

Chthon

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Well, from the hours I've been on (European hours on American servers) - yeah its dead.... and I'm comparing the population levels in LA GW1 to populations levels in LA GW2....

Also, although GW2 in open world vs. instanced areas like in GW1, it really makes no difference. You are basically playing on your own. Chat is always dead, unless there's some newb going around with a veteran player helping them out.
So fast? I didn't buy GW2 because some things raised doubts, and the reception has been somewhat... unenthusiastic, but really, there's that much population decline?

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So fast? I didn't buy GW2 because some things raised doubts, and the reception has been somewhat... unenthusiastic, but really, there's that much population decline?
No, it isn't dead. I don't know what iceblue is on about. The game is very much alive.

cosyfiep

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guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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Once again, please stay on topic. This is not a thread about gw2, nor whether its doing well or not.

We are discussing a possible expanion for guildwars the original game.

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It's not about the players anymore but how much of a cash cow their game can be so I highly doubt GW1 will ever get a new expansion although it would certainly be amazing.

It just wouldn't be popular enough to be worth it for them.

Uzur9

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Wish they would still put out expansions - heck EverQuest is *STILL* getting expansions but I understand ANet is a small group so it does make sense. Well we can all hope&dream.

Sofonisba

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psst, ANET! I just came back to GW (from GW2) a couple weeks ago, and I already bought another character slot and a storage slot here.

If you make more expansions, I promise to keep giving you monies!

/batting eyelashes

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

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we probably should wait for a response from Anet, once GW2 is going like it should be, then some more devs may return to GW, and their resources could be high enough to create more for GW, so they got 2 games going on

also, i havent quit yet, i'm even buying a char slot and merc slot to create 1 wintersday based char, lol

if Anet's doing well, it wont be the question "is it possible to get a GW expansion?", but it would be "will they sell us another GW expansion?"

if they would, i wouldnt mind having an offtopic one, not doing more with GW and/or GW2's lores, but 1 more made to have fun in (and enemies on HM having pve-only skills, lol)

but it all depends on how well their resources go

and of course the amount on GW players, as they have to sell it (giving away is nice, but would make it harder for their own resources) to as many as people as they can

i know several people playing both or just GW2 for a long time may also return, but since GW2 is growing and gets expansions (maybe even campaigns), its hard to see them return for GW while getting more for GW2

so it DOES matter what happens with Anet's money with both GW and GW2
its also the only reason i hope GW2 goes great (much better than it goes now), so that GW gets more also, as i dont care about GW2 for myself

but i have faith in them, and they may reply to this question, about whether or not it COULD happen, i've seen john stumme answer questions people had about GW

so... to increase the chance, everyone who likes GW and will still pay for GW stuff "let friends/other people you see in RL and/or internet, know that GW still can be fun when finding enough friends and/or nice guilds

i think Anet should somehow "announce" that GW will keep going, and is being worked on, once GW2 has enough to let them reduce the GW2 dev team to make the GW dev team some bigger

i guess we gotta wait for that time, but i have faith in them (and its the only MMO team i have this much faith in), as stumme has done alot good to GW before GW2 got released

cosyfiep

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it will be some time before they have time for gw again (the devs), there are TONS of issues still to be addressed with the other game.

I, too, have been keeping their coffers full--just added the trilogy onto my prophecies only account..enjoying starting new characters in factions and nightfall (heck, I just enjoy making new characters!!!).

so yeah, this game is still active, and from the amount of peeps I see in kamadan and eye--there are still quite a few playing this game (for whatever reason).

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(heck, I just enjoy making new characters!!!).
I just "finished" taking a 3 month old Ranger thru all 3 chapters and EotN. I said it would be the last one. Guess I lied. Also working a warrior thru Prophesies, about half of NF and about half of EotN. Just brought a monk across from pre and started an Ele in pre. Guess I like the new character feel.

Bring on a new expansion. Keep it under $30 and I will jump right in. Depending on the cost, a full blown new chapter could be a go, too.

jayson

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Right now I'm working on my third GWAMM so this game still holds a lot of interest for me. If an expansion came out it would be a good bet I'd be buying it.

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It all depends if the CMs are reading these boards as they are hidden and if the money you infest in this game stays in it or goes that other game #2.I still want my 4 annivsary slot openned but my money is on this out lasting that other game #2.

I am still waiting for the Monk update with smiting buffing protection would be nice.

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it would be awesome if they make new expansion or new content for GW1 i miss it.

Where are you getting these negatives reviews from? (If you're getting it from this site, of course those opinions are gonna be Biased) GW2 is a great game and should definitely try it, it has gotten plenty of great reviews. but if you're expecting the same game as gw1, than your probably gonna be disappointed.

GW2 isn't dead, it very well alive and populated.

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GW2 isn't dead, it very well alive and populated.
Haha sure, in LA because everyones grinding fractals since they added a gear grind. The world is about as dead as your own instance in GW1 when soloing.

GW2 is all hype in truth it's very boring and stale imo, wouldn't be the first time game reviewers were paid off either.

Tomonari

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GW2 is not the expansion, but the downfall of GW1.

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You can see the health of the game by looking at the black market. Gw1 stack of ecto goes for roughly 10 bucks now a days. In gw2 200g is about equivalent currency wise which goes for 70 dollars. I think that alone should give you an idea about how popular gw2 is because no one wastes real money on virtual cash in a dead game.

Gw1 will not get any expansions and it would be a miracle to even get a paragon or ranger update. If you have hope for new gw1 content the only hope is gw lan projects with user made content.

Gw2 is at a critical point right now. If it doesn't fix some of the severe bugs and unfinished content it will be a very dead game. It is a make it break it point kind of like how sorrow's furnace and topk got the community together back in the day.

Widowmakerz

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I would definitely pay for an expansion or campaign for GW1, at this point I wish they had never made GW2.

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No, it isn't dead. I don't know what iceblue is on about. The game is very much alive.
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Haha sure, in LA because everyones grinding fractals since they added a gear grind. The world is about as dead as your own instance in GW1 when soloing.

GW2 is all hype in truth it's very boring and stale imo, wouldn't be the first time game reviewers were paid off either.
I admit it, I was on a low NA population server, playing European hours and I don't belong to a guild. However, I'm not the only one who has said that they are already bored with GW2, they can't group up with others to do dungeons, and that the game is dead, they can't find players to do Orr with, etc. etc. etc.... all you need to do is go over to the GW2guru forums and you'll see what I'm talking about...

In any event, I have "discovered" this new site GW2LFG.com and since then things have been better and I've been playing GW2 more.

Edit: Back to the OP's original question. I also wish GW1 would have more expansions. I'm very much into the lore. But I think with GW2 out, they will put the lore into that game.

What I would like to see, since this would be more possible to do with GW1 than with GW2, IMHO, is to travel back in time, like they did with the April's fool event, and meet Devona's father and participate in the Guild Wars. For this all they would need to do is add Orr to the GW1 map. The terrain of pre-searing Ascalon and Kryta would not need to be changed. They could write the story, make the NPC's, missions, quests, and new armor, weapons, and costumes. Sans new skills or new professions, so they don't get a major headache trying to re-balance things. Voila! A new expansion that I would pay $60 for.

Edit2: Another thing players here have brought up is making PvP free to play. If they wanted to generate more income they could make PvP free to play for the masses, but limit the skills to only Prophesy skills and no elites, or just one. Then they could sell the Faction, Nightfall, and EotN skills in a package. In order to avoid bots, limit for free players the amount of faction points they get by about 60%. They want full rewards like players who bought the game? Buy the skill packages.... They could do so much to generate income, but I have a feeling they are getting orders from above to nix the game slowly.

Burning Freebies

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I have just found this thread (haven't been on guru since start of November...soz)

I can't claim to know much about GW2 as I was away for a month during its release. I was also on a break from the game, and I don't see much point in buying now, seeing as I missed everything...

But an expansion for GW1? Not on the cards. I heard the GW1 live team has been reduced hugely-they wanted to produce a Guild wars beyond section on Elona, something to do with Palawa Joko, but that isn't coming-too many resources are being used on GW2 instead.

In my opinion, Gw1 won't see much action over the next year. Sure, we'll get the usual weekly updates (might as well cancel AB seeing as not even the bonus weekends can get more than 3 people there...) and festivals, but that's it. I loved Guild Wars Beyond-killing the White mantle etc. I haven't done Winds of Change as I wasn't playing when it was released, and I want GWaMM so I have been working on that, largely. I would love to do some stuff in Elona related to GW beyond, but unfortunately it will never happen.

I also doubt how they would create a storyline for a new expansion/campaign. I liked EOTN, but not sure how you can expand on it. I think movement of the worlds suggests that for 20 years after GW1, nothing big happens. The only thing I could think of was the establishment of Ebonhawke, but that's not exactly a big storyline...and it was something that was meant to happen during GW Beyond.

As for all these people making new characters...I don't know how you do it. I have 1 ele, 13 maxed titles, and after I get GWaMM on him (taking a long time...), I don't intend to do it ever again. Although saying that, I am a bit of a noob after 5 years in the game...still need other players to get through missions.

All i can say is, thank goodness for Zaishen quests. If it wasn't for Zaishen Mission and Zaishen Bounty quests, my hopes of getting groups together so I could actually progress in Guardian/Master of North titles would be dead. That's about the most alive the game is today-its pretty great seeing a nice group in an outpost because its the ZM. I have also been in my first 3 groups made entirely of players-somehow, something I never managed in my 5 years of playing the game initially.

IlikeGW

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GW2 won several game of the year awards. They were well deserved. Don't believe the haters GW2 expands the capacity of the devs in pretty much every way to make a much cooler experience.

Things have changed, but it's worth it for WvW, a bigger live team than ever with cool updates, and just massive amount of content. Honestly people still playing GW1 kind of scare me... like a record is skipping and they're just sitting there listening to it that way. The future isn't evil.

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Honestly people still playing GW1 kind of scare me...
I'll bet just the thought of people firing up a game of Bejeweled or Spider Solitaire keeps you up at night, eh?

I'm guessing your perspective is, you hope there are no more GW expansions?