Originally Posted by deadmonkey4u
Great..., so now it comes down to deleting my ele with 2 sets of 15k armor for a pvp slot(I do pvp with my 4 pve characters).ahhhhhh stupid assassin is too tempting to not have .
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Event January 20-22, Free Preview of Chapter 2!!
generik
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FFF_WarRaven
great so they are into segration of pvp and pve, i'm sorry but wtf....
i own guildwars, why should i have top start a second account to try the new characters, and can only save the skills i earned for that account, just because i have 4 chars for pve and use "them" for pvp,...again wtf...
ever think to allow a temp 2 slots or even one, and save that information to my account in the case i do buy chapter 2?
i guess that might make too much sence.
so if i pvp i get to save ( or a second account ) the stuff, if i don't, i don't....
so does this mean i don't get to use the 4 characters i have already for chapter 2? do i have to delete a char. or 2 just to play the new stuff....sorry i wasn't going to read all 3 pages today :P
and something at another event will be pve only and not pvp...comon ppl ...plz...like you can't delete a pvp char that much more easily then pve to try the new chars., because it's that much harder for me to delete a pve char and go back while in pvp it an't jack....
sigh..i dunno...shrugs...every game lacks something tome ...and myabe or maybe not it's because i'd like to have it my way, like everyone else, but then there's that something that every game i have ever played lacks, and maybe that's what i seeing now...shrugs..maybe i have just had a hard day and i'm taking it out on gw....but some things just make me go....gimme the gun kill me now type of thing, like where's the common sence.....
don't get me wrong, i love this game , i have played it like a fiend since day one, it has it's upsides and down like everything else....
and i know what it is like when you get so far and realise, there is a snag in the system, and the only way out is to change the way it is done....
i myself am on a team creating a new mechwarrior game and it has been in production for some time even before i joined the group....www.is3025.com. <<< if your intrested ( i model and texture :P )
i dunno maybe i'm just ranting but overall i have come to expect a little bit more from developers...then again it's prolly just me...:P
....blah blah blahblahblah blahh.
This house is made of glass..and i live in the center of 6 baseballfields.
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i own guildwars, why should i have top start a second account to try the new characters, and can only save the skills i earned for that account, just because i have 4 chars for pve and use "them" for pvp,...again wtf...
ever think to allow a temp 2 slots or even one, and save that information to my account in the case i do buy chapter 2?
i guess that might make too much sence.
so if i pvp i get to save ( or a second account ) the stuff, if i don't, i don't....
so does this mean i don't get to use the 4 characters i have already for chapter 2? do i have to delete a char. or 2 just to play the new stuff....sorry i wasn't going to read all 3 pages today :P
and something at another event will be pve only and not pvp...comon ppl ...plz...like you can't delete a pvp char that much more easily then pve to try the new chars., because it's that much harder for me to delete a pve char and go back while in pvp it an't jack....
sigh..i dunno...shrugs...every game lacks something tome ...and myabe or maybe not it's because i'd like to have it my way, like everyone else, but then there's that something that every game i have ever played lacks, and maybe that's what i seeing now...shrugs..maybe i have just had a hard day and i'm taking it out on gw....but some things just make me go....gimme the gun kill me now type of thing, like where's the common sence.....
don't get me wrong, i love this game , i have played it like a fiend since day one, it has it's upsides and down like everything else....
and i know what it is like when you get so far and realise, there is a snag in the system, and the only way out is to change the way it is done....
i myself am on a team creating a new mechwarrior game and it has been in production for some time even before i joined the group....www.is3025.com. <<< if your intrested ( i model and texture :P )
i dunno maybe i'm just ranting but overall i have come to expect a little bit more from developers...then again it's prolly just me...:P
....blah blah blahblahblah blahh.
This house is made of glass..and i live in the center of 6 baseballfields.
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Loviatar
how many people are going to do what i am going to do?
i will set up a disposable use one time throw away email addy and look around at the scenery and try things out.
i wont delete a core character (nuts to that) just for the tiny bit of a head start i could get on a few other people.
WAKE UP PEOPLE
WILL WHAT YOU GRAB IN ONE WEEKEND MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE 6 WEEKS INTO THE GAME?
DO I HAVE TO DELETE THIS JUST SO I CAN JOIN THE FUN?
PATHETIC
i will set up a disposable use one time throw away email addy and look around at the scenery and try things out.
i wont delete a core character (nuts to that) just for the tiny bit of a head start i could get on a few other people.
WAKE UP PEOPLE
WILL WHAT YOU GRAB IN ONE WEEKEND MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE 6 WEEKS INTO THE GAME?
DO I HAVE TO DELETE THIS JUST SO I CAN JOIN THE FUN?
PATHETIC
CKaz
Loviatar, my point being earlier and to the below, we *could* have used our unlocks we've already worked on for hundreds of hours to date, *if* we had a slot available to make use of it.. OR we have to lose a character. Not everyone is jammed up, but some people like myself, are.
So here's what we miss out by not having our original account on it-
All the unlocks we've worked for we could have PvP'd with
Gaining the faction/new unlocks/rank/etc for our account during wkend
Disposable separate account is an option sure. But if you're like me you wanted to play the crap out of the new content this weekend, leveraging all the work you've done before and kicking out more faction/rank/unlocks the whole time. That along with the still potential 1-2 slot for chp2 frustrates.
Even if you don't think you'd grab too much new over the weekend, it sounds like just a 'starter set of skills'. I have all the ele, necro, mesmer skills and elites and most all of the other 3 classes. This would be a MUCH more engaging weekend to me if I could make use of them - thus disappointment.
But I'm a lot better now, I've resolved myself to either GW gets fixing this bottleneck or I move on. I'm looking at the disposable route because I wont nuke a character but I'm not sure I got it right... anyone else add the PvP free for all weekend under 'add key'? I'm not sure how I could access that though or set up another account on the same install, I guess I have about a week to figure that out
So here's what we miss out by not having our original account on it-
All the unlocks we've worked for we could have PvP'd with
Gaining the faction/new unlocks/rank/etc for our account during wkend
Disposable separate account is an option sure. But if you're like me you wanted to play the crap out of the new content this weekend, leveraging all the work you've done before and kicking out more faction/rank/unlocks the whole time. That along with the still potential 1-2 slot for chp2 frustrates.
Even if you don't think you'd grab too much new over the weekend, it sounds like just a 'starter set of skills'. I have all the ele, necro, mesmer skills and elites and most all of the other 3 classes. This would be a MUCH more engaging weekend to me if I could make use of them - thus disappointment.
But I'm a lot better now, I've resolved myself to either GW gets fixing this bottleneck or I move on. I'm looking at the disposable route because I wont nuke a character but I'm not sure I got it right... anyone else add the PvP free for all weekend under 'add key'? I'm not sure how I could access that though or set up another account on the same install, I guess I have about a week to figure that out
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
how many people are going to do what i am going to do?
i will set up a disposable use one time throw away email addy and look around at the scenery and try things out. i wont delete a core character (nuts to that) just for the tiny bit of a head start i could get on a few other people. WAKE UP PEOPLE WILL WHAT YOU GRAB IN ONE WEEKEND MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE 6 WEEKS INTO THE GAME? DO I HAVE TO DELETE THIS JUST SO I CAN JOIN THE FUN? PATHETIC |
CKaz
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Originally Posted by Lord Iowerth
I think we're probably misunderstanding each other, so
Here's where I don't understand: Since you did your unlocks, like you say, through PvE ... there is no PvE during the upcoming weekend ... so what are you worried about, exactly? Either you want to unlock skills with faction or you want to unlock them with PvE. If you prefer going the PvE route, why not just wait until it comes out in retail? While the reason you nuked your PvP slot is admirable (that you wanted to help the wife), it was still a choice you made. I made much the reverse decision, and nuked my ele (no pun intended) to make a PvP slot because I was doing more PvP as time went on. I keep his weapons in storage, and once my new ele on second account gets up in lvls: there he is back again. No big deal. |
I was in a funk so I took the hook line and sinker no problem.
But I would have liked to use the crazy amount of unlocks I've done, and what I manage to acrue (faction/rank/new unlocks) to make use of.
I just keep hitting this wall of an arbitrary low # of character slots that I've never experienced with any other game, once again effecting this weekend (for me, not all I admit), and may continue through chapter 2 (which if they make me speak with my $, no I won't buy it with 1-2 slots). That's all.
I hope it doesn't come to that, otherwise I really enjoy the game
cheers
CKaz
BigTru
This is a PvP event. Stop whining. There will most likely be a PvE event (All of the Halloween main event was PvE only).
If I hadn't had a PvE character, then I wouldn't have been able to participate in the main PvE Halloween event. Why is it so hard to accept that you won't be able to try the new professions if you don't have a PvP only character? Actually, that's not even true.
Create a temporary account. Problem solved. Stop whining, please.
If I hadn't had a PvE character, then I wouldn't have been able to participate in the main PvE Halloween event. Why is it so hard to accept that you won't be able to try the new professions if you don't have a PvP only character? Actually, that's not even true.
Create a temporary account. Problem solved. Stop whining, please.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by CKaz
Disposable separate account is an option sure. But if you're like me you wanted to play the crap out of the new content this weekend, leveraging all the work you've done before and kicking out more faction/rank/unlocks the whole time. That along with the still potential 1-2 slot for chp2 frustrates. : |
in any case i wish you well in whatever game makes you happy in the future here or elsewhere.
not mad just befuddled
hopefully your wife will enjoy it also
luck to both of you
BigTru
5 days... 5 hours... 45 minutes... 21 seconds...
BEER Almighty
in reference to the FREE PREVIEW event :
you cant have your cake and eat it too.
end of story.
if you want to try out new things in guild wars, you have to be willing to keep a slot open. if you do not leave your self room for some flexablity, it is your own fault. the reasons behind your choice are irrelevent, but if you filled all 4 slots w/ PvE guys and are unwilling to part w/ one of them to try something new, then too bad.
however, if you say "ok, i need/want to create a 4th PvE char to do X" and think to yourself 'ya know, i might have to delete one of these someday if i ever want to do anything other then these 4 chars . . .' then you already know what you need to do. dont blame your stubborness or lack of forsight on the developer.
now, before you try to lynch me, let me say this. the above statement is in regards to the event this weekend. i am not saying that we should not get at least 1 more slot (or more) when the retail version is released, becase i really think we should. however, ANET has ZERO obligation to GIVE us a free slot in the CURRENT game just so that we can PREVIEW the new stuff. they are however being very generous (as always) and giving us the CHANCE to do so, if we so CHOOSE.
you cant have your cake and eat it too.
end of story.
if you want to try out new things in guild wars, you have to be willing to keep a slot open. if you do not leave your self room for some flexablity, it is your own fault. the reasons behind your choice are irrelevent, but if you filled all 4 slots w/ PvE guys and are unwilling to part w/ one of them to try something new, then too bad.
however, if you say "ok, i need/want to create a 4th PvE char to do X" and think to yourself 'ya know, i might have to delete one of these someday if i ever want to do anything other then these 4 chars . . .' then you already know what you need to do. dont blame your stubborness or lack of forsight on the developer.
now, before you try to lynch me, let me say this. the above statement is in regards to the event this weekend. i am not saying that we should not get at least 1 more slot (or more) when the retail version is released, becase i really think we should. however, ANET has ZERO obligation to GIVE us a free slot in the CURRENT game just so that we can PREVIEW the new stuff. they are however being very generous (as always) and giving us the CHANCE to do so, if we so CHOOSE.
FireMountain
Sounds great I'll have to wait cause I don't do PVP
Guardian of the Light
Started saving Faction ^_^
Keep hitting the cap so I spend and work up again.
Keep hitting the cap so I spend and work up again.
BigTru
4 days... 23 hours... 59 minutes... 59 seconds...
Deathqueen
[Other MMOs and similiar games (EQ/AO/D2/etc etc) HAVE MORE SLOTS.]
Yup and you PAY $15 a MONTH to have that priviledge!!! Left that out though didnt' you?
Yup and you PAY $15 a MONTH to have that priviledge!!! Left that out though didnt' you?
Deathqueen
Where do you get 4 days?
theclam
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Originally Posted by Deathqueen
[Other MMOs and similiar games (EQ/AO/D2/etc etc) HAVE MORE SLOTS.]
Yup and you PAY $15 a MONTH to have that priviledge!!! Left that out though didnt' you? |
I'd pay $5 for unlimited character slots.
Omega X
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Originally Posted by theclam
Not for D2.
I'd pay $5 for unlimited character slots. |
Deathqueen
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Originally Posted by theclam
Not for D2.
I'd pay $5 for unlimited character slots. |
and now to this comment by another:
{not sure if anyone noticed this but.. Anet are some clever people this will get more ppl to play pvp which in turn will covert the non pvp community as they wont want to miss out trying out the new professions}
Oh yeah bring in those who have no clue how to play pvp, that will mean less faction when you get in groups with these people. I've seen enough of them in random 4x4 pvp arenas, don't know how to play, don't bring a rez sig, charge into the enemy without support. Yeah boy I want to see these people in the preview....NOT!
BigTru
4 days... 2 hours... 29 minutes... 55 seconds...
Lets Get to Healing
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Originally Posted by BigTru
4 days... 2 hours... 29 minutes... 55 seconds...
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FFF_WarRaven
hmm somehow my post here got deleted...my second one...anyway i'll make this short.
PVP= can destroy a character, and remake it and still have what you had the first time.
PVE= destroy a character and say goodbye to it forever.
yet, kill a pve character and all you unlocks are still therefor pvp.
gee sorry if making a temp slot for everyone and saving the information to their accounts and deleting the temp slot afterwards, is so much harder then a seperate account...yup drop in them quarters folks the arcade is open....
convert non-pvp'rs? how when anyone who is strictly pvp, won't accept anything below a rank 3?
can't have your cake and eat it too? looks to me like it's a pvp only cake, does it make a differance 6 weeks into the game, well if your pvp or have a slot it doesn't really matter to you does it?
where is the common sence people?
bah...
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PVP= can destroy a character, and remake it and still have what you had the first time.
PVE= destroy a character and say goodbye to it forever.
yet, kill a pve character and all you unlocks are still therefor pvp.
gee sorry if making a temp slot for everyone and saving the information to their accounts and deleting the temp slot afterwards, is so much harder then a seperate account...yup drop in them quarters folks the arcade is open....
convert non-pvp'rs? how when anyone who is strictly pvp, won't accept anything below a rank 3?
can't have your cake and eat it too? looks to me like it's a pvp only cake, does it make a differance 6 weeks into the game, well if your pvp or have a slot it doesn't really matter to you does it?
where is the common sence people?
bah...
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mostro
I am hoping that they will give us the UAS option for this event like they did before. Otherwise it would suck for people who have to create new accounts and not have any unlocked skills to play with
sambotheman
anyone else see the problem that nobody will want to be the "core" professions and we will end up with teams of 8 assasain/ritualists.
anyway i will miss all of friday and most of saturday as i will be at a16th birthday party
anyway i will miss all of friday and most of saturday as i will be at a16th birthday party
imortal
ya i know im gonna spend all weekend bein a ritualist and mayb some assassin on the side, unless this preview event includes some new skills for the old professions.
greenlantern
I know that I'm going to play all weekend and ripping apart all the NOOB ritualist & Assasin team. Free Fame here I come!
Jaythen Tyradel
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Originally Posted by mostro
I am hoping that they will give us the UAS option for this event like they did before. Otherwise it would suck for people who have to create new accounts and not have any unlocked skills to play with
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We will find out friday.
Aro
I think I'll make an A/W Can't wait for this.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by mostro
I am hoping that they will give us the UAS option for this event like they did before. Otherwise it would suck for people who have to create new accounts and not have any unlocked skills to play with
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and here is why they will NEVER do something like UAS again.
official comment on UAS for the event
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But given the complete misunderstanding that many felt (or claimed ) and the unnatural and unintended expectation that it built, I never want to see the letters U. A. an S in the same combination ever again. Unless I decide to join the United Alliance of Sopranos. But of course, that's just me. |
mostro
What if you want to combo the assasin or ritualist class with the old classes and having to create a new account (say you ran out of char slot, etc.)? And seeing that it is a PvP event only, how would you unlock the skills for the new classes anyway? Current GW players may have free faction points to unlock the new skills, but what about the new people playing the game for the first time? Play without any skill in the skillbar until you receive enough faction?
zemelett
there is gonna be so many Assasin/? or Ritualist/? its gonna be funny. I'll have to play my monk for a bit so that I can get in some groups fast! Gotta love when something new comes out...
kaya
i'm gonna play with assassin/ ritualist as secondary. that'll still be pretty cool, and i'll be a hot item for certain teams :P
One winged angel
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If I delete a character to make a Ritualist or an Assassin, will my character be replaced at the end of the Guild Wars: Factions Global Free-For-All PvP Weekend? No, your character will not be replaced at the end of the event. So be sure you choose carefully and that you are aware that the characters that you create with the Ritualist or Assassin as a part of the profession setup will need to be recreated or “rerolled” after the event. |
Savio
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Originally Posted by One winged angel
wonder what they meant by "rerolled".
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Elena
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Originally Posted by mostro
What if you want to combo the assasin or ritualist class with the old classes and having to create a new account (say you ran out of char slot, etc.)? And seeing that it is a PvP event only, how would you unlock the skills for the new classes anyway? Current GW players may have free faction points to unlock the new skills, but what about the new people playing the game for the first time? Play without any skill in the skillbar until you receive enough faction?
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Jaythen Tyradel
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Originally Posted by Elena
i hope A-net made some assasin and ritualist template's so even new players without 10K faction can enjoy these without first playing for 2 hours to get 8 skills
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Plus the whole unlocking with faction points...
I see possible threads complaining about Faction rates starting up sometime on Friday..
Dyeane
I haven't seen this up anywhere yet, so I thought I'd share..
http://www.gamingsteve.com/archives/...teve_ep_30.php
Interview with Jeff Strain concerning Factions. Theres also a pic of a Ritualist I haven't seen before on these forums. I haven't listened to the interview yet as I don't have time at the moment, so I'm not sure if it contains anything we don't already know.
http://www.gamingsteve.com/archives/...teve_ep_30.php
Interview with Jeff Strain concerning Factions. Theres also a pic of a Ritualist I haven't seen before on these forums. I haven't listened to the interview yet as I don't have time at the moment, so I'm not sure if it contains anything we don't already know.