I think we should "Officer Chat" in our chat menu. That way, the officers and leaders can discuse issues regaurding the guild without the guild members knowing about it. I think it would be great, but i wanted to post and get everyones views on it. I sent a letter to Arena Net about it and they said they would check into it and wanted me to do some "finding out" on some Forums. But what do you all think about it?
-Sarek Of Azure
Officer Chat
Sarek
Zobi
Used to have it when I played DAoC, and it worked okay. I am for it. 
Maxiemonster
It'll make things alot easier to discuss by officers, and it'll cost ANet like an hour to make so.. Why not?
LifeInfusion
What can you discuss that might be so secretive?
Kicking people? I think people would rather you NOT talk behind their backs.
Kicking people? I think people would rather you NOT talk behind their backs.
art_
Lol. My Guild's members would hate that XD
It would probably just create ill-feeling as members would think that officers were talking behind their backs.
Anyhow, /unsigned. -.-
It would probably just create ill-feeling as members would think that officers were talking behind their backs.
Anyhow, /unsigned. -.-
Sarek
Well it's just a suggestion for easier guild chat. Some guilds may use it for talking behind their backs, but the probably do it anyways, lol. But anyways i know Officers in my guild have a lot to talk about when it comes to members in our guild. We are picky, and we want our guild to be a great experience for all our members. But it's just to get your opinions on it. Thanks for the answers though, even the negative ones =P
-Sarek Of Azure
-Sarek Of Azure
neoteo
/signed
this feature in big guilds can be even more usefull
creating a chat room would be the best tho imo
advanced chat room system , create , then peope can join ( good old /j #roomname ) , leader can kick , chat room list would be also nice. basacly a irc chat program. with basic comands .
i think anything that is for puting people in groups in good
this feature in big guilds can be even more usefull
creating a chat room would be the best tho imo
advanced chat room system , create , then peope can join ( good old /j #roomname ) , leader can kick , chat room list would be also nice. basacly a irc chat program. with basic comands .
i think anything that is for puting people in groups in good
Ray
How about... Whisper? No? Form a party?
neoteo
wisper is 1 on 1
party is max 8
guild is max 100
irc system would be , no limits
and free from guilds , you could make a channel for some purpuse , then all leave the channel desapears.
party is max 8
guild is max 100
irc system would be , no limits
and free from guilds , you could make a channel for some purpuse , then all leave the channel desapears.
aeroclown
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How about... Whisper? No? Form a party?
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Party, eh maybe but often time officers are in different, place, in different parties, doing different things. Its not ideal to have your officer leave his group to simply dicuss something, esp if that officer is in the middle of a mission.
Wrath of m0o
Whisper ? To all officers ? Sorry dont have enough time for that.
I have often scoured that there isnt a /c for command chat - letting you talk to all officers without ruffeling the feathers of the entire guild. What if you dont trust everyone in the guild? There definately needs to be some sort of command chat. You wouldnt just make any random invite to your guild an officer would you, if you did you risk that player deleting your entire guild while you were sleeping. So yes, i agree totally that there needs to be some sort of /c chat to discuss non lemming plans for your guild, so the spy's have a harder time finding out what build you are concocting to launch.
lol, /c chat , battle isles ,this is begining to sound too much like planetside. Whats next Battle Frame Robots ?
I have often scoured that there isnt a /c for command chat - letting you talk to all officers without ruffeling the feathers of the entire guild. What if you dont trust everyone in the guild? There definately needs to be some sort of command chat. You wouldnt just make any random invite to your guild an officer would you, if you did you risk that player deleting your entire guild while you were sleeping. So yes, i agree totally that there needs to be some sort of /c chat to discuss non lemming plans for your guild, so the spy's have a harder time finding out what build you are concocting to launch.
lol, /c chat , battle isles ,this is begining to sound too much like planetside. Whats next Battle Frame Robots ?
Racthoh
Agreed, pretty much the only way I can talk to my officers all at once is through MSN. Would be nice if I didn't have my friends talking to me while I'm trying to game. 
TheOneAndOnlyX
/signed helps me with my guild
Blessed Winds
This is what guild halls are for. Meetings.
Thrawn Foxheed
All members can access the guild hall, defeating the purpose of secret meetings =P.
lyra_song
Thankfully my guild hasnt gotten big enough to need this yet, but i can imagine the applications and want for it.
i think it would be a great addition
/signed
i think it would be a great addition
/signed
Dracus Steelbow
isnt that kind of wrong? i could be like "hey i really hate this member" and have a hole huge conversation about that. honestly thats just wrong, but i can see where ur going with this. I suppose there would be some advantiges of haveing it but, we all know peeps are going to abuse.
Blessed Winds
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All members can access the guild hall, defeating the purpose of secret meetings =P.
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Also they're rarely used anyways...
Sarek
Well the thing is, people might abuse it to talking bad about each other. But they probably do it anyways. And it's group decision when it comes to kicking members. My guild is always busy and has alot of people in it and we can't always be in a party with each other, or meet some where. And we are normally all online so posting in our forums doesn't really do anything. It's mostly there for the newer guild members if they have questions or need price checks we have them posted and everything. And all the officers normally help everyone out. But like I said in the beginning just a neat suggestion. I had it in WoW and a couple of other games i played before this one, and loved it. But thanks for the inputs. Can't wait to see what you all post next, lol. =P Hope to see you all in Game.
-Sarek Of Azure
-Sarek Of Azure
thor hammerbane
when your talking to officers your not only talking about kicking but possible promotions, demotions, recruiting, kicking , and stuff related to gvg. im an active member in my guild, and it would work great, instead of whispering each guy and copying and pasting the same message
/signed FTW
, and stuff related to gvg. im an active member in my guild, and it would work great, instead of whispering each guy and copying and pasting the same message/signed FTW
Criminally Sane
Meh, don't see any real need for it. Would rather have Anet spend their time on developing more useful things, like a way to replace people who've err7'd.
sledgeunderhill
IMHO, use tools that are available out of game. Here are a few examples:
Use a forum with entitled space for officer discussions. Pretty easy to set up and it allows such discussions to occur with records as well as threading to keep people from being confused about the issues at hand. Your guild does have a forum doesn't it?
Use email aliases for discussions that can take place during a slower exchange of ideas. You still get the advantages of a record of the discussion. You do have email, right?
Use an IM system for faster chat - still allows you to capture the messages as a log, too. IM systems are free and many people have them running all the time.
Use voice chat and close the room for just the officers. No records, very fast, more than 8 spots available depending on your license. Your team does have voice chat, right?
/notsigned as asking ANet to provide tools that already have solutions elsewhere shows poor planning and organization and probably wouldn't be used properly.
Use a forum with entitled space for officer discussions. Pretty easy to set up and it allows such discussions to occur with records as well as threading to keep people from being confused about the issues at hand. Your guild does have a forum doesn't it?
Use email aliases for discussions that can take place during a slower exchange of ideas. You still get the advantages of a record of the discussion. You do have email, right?
Use an IM system for faster chat - still allows you to capture the messages as a log, too. IM systems are free and many people have them running all the time.
Use voice chat and close the room for just the officers. No records, very fast, more than 8 spots available depending on your license. Your team does have voice chat, right?
/notsigned as asking ANet to provide tools that already have solutions elsewhere shows poor planning and organization and probably wouldn't be used properly.
Dentenko
/signed
Its good to discuss applications and guild activities among the core members of your guild, which are most likely officers, and it will probably help with the mangement of guilds in general, i.e. cape designs, hall choice, etc, made by senior officers. That also encourages normal members to be more active, to see what happening in officer chat.
In full favor.
Its good to discuss applications and guild activities among the core members of your guild, which are most likely officers, and it will probably help with the mangement of guilds in general, i.e. cape designs, hall choice, etc, made by senior officers. That also encourages normal members to be more active, to see what happening in officer chat.
In full favor.
ryacketta
I think this is a solid idea.
Would enable the leader and officers to communicate regarding guild topics without the interfearance of its members. Think of it as a way for the executive team to speak about guild topics that do not require the input of its members.
It is not that we are hiding information or talking about people behind their backs, its more so the discussion of running the guild and makeing decisions before we tell the members.
/signed
Would enable the leader and officers to communicate regarding guild topics without the interfearance of its members. Think of it as a way for the executive team to speak about guild topics that do not require the input of its members.
It is not that we are hiding information or talking about people behind their backs, its more so the discussion of running the guild and makeing decisions before we tell the members.
/signed
Red
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How about... Whisper? No? Form a party?
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This is what guild halls are for. Meetings.
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IMHO, use tools that are available out of game. /notsigned as asking ANet to provide tools that already have solutions elsewhere shows poor planning and organization and probably wouldn't be used properly.
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To those of you worried about abuse--don't you think the leader and officers in good guilds ALREADY talk about the other members? Either in whispers or small parties in game, or in voice chat or forums... we talk. It's how we decide who should be invited, who is doing a good job, and who should be reprimanded for not living up to the guild's code.
I think it's rather judgemental to say that asking for this channel shows poor planning and organization. My guild has guild-wide meetings as well as officer-meetings, as well as the officer-only forum on our boards. I don't think we have poor organization at all. This would just be a very useful in-game addition.
And, I don't know that we should have to look for solutions out of game for something so instrumental to the game. It's called GUILD Wars. We shouldn't have to look for too much Guild functionality out of the game that depends on Guilds to work. -_-
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Eldin
/signed
Any big guild has too many officers to manage into a party, plus, in general, the Guild hierarchy system and chat system could be improved.
Any big guild has too many officers to manage into a party, plus, in general, the Guild hierarchy system and chat system could be improved.
Minus Sign
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Rathcail
16 officers, two teams of eight going in for a scrimmage, speak in All chat. There's your privacy.
Suppose you could bother doing that if there's something that needs to be discussed behind the backs of the members.
Suppose you could bother doing that if there's something that needs to be discussed behind the backs of the members.
xiaotsu
/Signed
Can use TS/Vent, but not everyone has them and not everyone has a mic.
Can use TS/Vent, but not everyone has them and not everyone has a mic.
The Hand Of Death
well it is a good idea
if it doesnt get implemented though, you can always do what my guild does and make an officers party in the GH and talk in team chat
if it doesnt get implemented though, you can always do what my guild does and make an officers party in the GH and talk in team chat
kurtas
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Well99
Just what I need.Since my guild consist of me,myself and I.I really like to kick I out..) .It does make sense.The guilds I have been in there is to much chatter including alliance channel.Officers need to plan events and such without haveing 16 people jumping into the discussion.Afterwards you can get other guildies response.
yunthi
's im officer in my guild and we do keep secret conversations in our forum about kicking members... that goes with being officer...
also officer stuff is about, helping out new members... making the rules for the guild, ,recruiting ppl, making alliances, discussing gvg tactics etc...
basickly officers make decisions about guild related stuff, while members while not being able to decide this can make propositions to officers which will then do the thinking, and thus guild members get some freedom in their builds but still have the sence... we know what we are doing, and gives a sence of security... not everyone wants to be a leader and sometimes life is much easyer if u dont have to think, officers will do that for u
(and while promoting ppl to officers, ,when we tell them about what responsibilities are for being one about 1/3 refuses this... even if we propose this to members who are officer "material" gathering guild parties etc
strong leadership requires that u have o doubts that u are righrt in the eyes of members and thus members can enjoy strickt but easy commadnds...
this makes the guild work... war friends [wf], my guild is one of the free guilds.. motto fun & fair && free will and still u propably have cn the name in announces about winning hoh (sorry we are ful atm and pure finnish)
and while our rank is not among the best... about 600-800 we can occasionally win rank 100-200 guilds but most of all as our motto says we have fun while doing it and dont take it too seriously....
i think officer chat would suit our guilds needs
/signed
also officer stuff is about, helping out new members... making the rules for the guild, ,recruiting ppl, making alliances, discussing gvg tactics etc...
basickly officers make decisions about guild related stuff, while members while not being able to decide this can make propositions to officers which will then do the thinking, and thus guild members get some freedom in their builds but still have the sence... we know what we are doing, and gives a sence of security... not everyone wants to be a leader and sometimes life is much easyer if u dont have to think, officers will do that for u
(and while promoting ppl to officers, ,when we tell them about what responsibilities are for being one about 1/3 refuses this... even if we propose this to members who are officer "material" gathering guild parties etc
strong leadership requires that u have o doubts that u are righrt in the eyes of members and thus members can enjoy strickt but easy commadnds...
this makes the guild work... war friends [wf], my guild is one of the free guilds.. motto fun & fair && free will and still u propably have cn the name in announces about winning hoh (sorry we are ful atm and pure finnish)
and while our rank is not among the best... about 600-800 we can occasionally win rank 100-200 guilds but most of all as our motto says we have fun while doing it and dont take it too seriously....
i think officer chat would suit our guilds needs
/signed
bigwig
i've been in games where i've been an officer in officer chat. its just a way to talk about people behind their backs. Not really useful. PM them, or go to your guild hall and talk to one another in team chat.
Anarion Silverhand
/unsigned as I think members would get the feeling that the officers are talking behind their backs..
If you want an all-officer talk, why not just use TS/Ventrilo?
If you want an all-officer talk, why not just use TS/Ventrilo?
Nero
/signed
would be a great thing to have imo
would be a great thing to have imo
Skuld
I'd prefer customisable ranks and channels etc in guilds, not everyone does everything the same way.
yunthi
face it ppl are talking behind ur backs officer chat or not... thats jst the way ppl are... and officers are supposed to...
i mean if u r the topic of weather officers kick u or not... well in this say they decide they will not ... how would u feel if u actually heard the talk... he is kindof annoying when... etc...
if they decide they will not kick u then they have jst decided that u are even with bad sides a good chap...
if u heard it then u will think well they hate me... i might aswell leave...
if its about your good and bad sides and ppl decide hte good outweight the bad... so they will talk to you jst as before... u will be ignorant about the fact that ur mistakes have jst been viewed and deemed not too bad to kick evceryone is happy
and believe me ur mistakes and behaviour will be evaluated by officers. THAT IS THEIR JOB
and yes at least for my guild we often do discuss stuff on ts and have password protected channel jst for officers, also our forum holds a section designated for officers only ... so far we have heard no complains about us being in that room even if ppl c us in there... our alliance has 6 guilds which all have similar chatrooms jst for officers and the same thing there, not a word of complain...
if u have problems with this... apply for officer or change ur guild
i mean if u r the topic of weather officers kick u or not... well in this say they decide they will not ... how would u feel if u actually heard the talk... he is kindof annoying when... etc...
if they decide they will not kick u then they have jst decided that u are even with bad sides a good chap...
if u heard it then u will think well they hate me... i might aswell leave...
if its about your good and bad sides and ppl decide hte good outweight the bad... so they will talk to you jst as before... u will be ignorant about the fact that ur mistakes have jst been viewed and deemed not too bad to kick evceryone is happy
and believe me ur mistakes and behaviour will be evaluated by officers. THAT IS THEIR JOB
and yes at least for my guild we often do discuss stuff on ts and have password protected channel jst for officers, also our forum holds a section designated for officers only ... so far we have heard no complains about us being in that room even if ppl c us in there... our alliance has 6 guilds which all have similar chatrooms jst for officers and the same thing there, not a word of complain...
if u have problems with this... apply for officer or change ur guild
Chilly Ress
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16 officers, two teams of eight going in for a scrimmage, speak in All chat. There's your privacy.
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Some of you have really lowered my faith in mankind.
Turel2
I think it would be a good idea to have officer chat. it would mean guild leaders could easily get the officers to understand what happening without having to whisp each one. This would make running a guild a bit easier.
It would also be easy to impliment.
Also if officers are going to talk behind the members backs, they will use whisp to do it anyway.
/signed
It would also be easy to impliment.
Also if officers are going to talk behind the members backs, they will use whisp to do it anyway.
/signed