Assassin Armor / Ritualist Armor

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

The style of an assassin, I'm not liking at all. It kinda looks like Shredder (From Ninja Turtles) in Spandex. I really hope they make some dramatic changes because right now I'm not feeling it, I much prefer a traditional ninja style. Black robing thats tucked in and puffed at the forearms and shins, with a headgaurd, maybe a scarf for style.

The ritualist I think is fine, tribal and great tattoos.

What do you guys think?

Rikimaru

Rikimaru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

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I think the style of the assassin armor is -basically- fine, I just don't like that they're all body-suits, and covered in blades.
-Edit- When I said "covered in blades" I didn't mean the daggers all over their armor, that's cool, I meant the huge blades sticking out of their shoulders/forearms/shins in most of the armors available.

Grimm

Grimm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

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They look fine to me. You seem to miss the point that they're not ninjas, they're assassins.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

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Hawaii

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yea and assassins want large metal things sticking out while they try to sneak up on their prey...yea

take off all those damn ninja stars and crap on them....

minimalist = good

SyR1S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic Smile
yea and assassins want large metal things sticking out while they try to sneak up on their prey...yea

take off all those damn ninja stars and crap on them....

minimalist = good
i think the asassin armors look to much alike, i say change the +8 armor one to look like a ninja robe, then the the other 2 the same, this will give some variety to the assasin armor also it makes sence the loose flexible robes would give you more energy (while movement) and less protection.

Mavrik

Mavrik

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Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

Well you also need to keep in mind a very important issue here. This is a PREVIEW!

Just like all the other classes, I am sure they will get starter armor, they will get collector armor, they will very most likely get 15k and fow armor or what ever that is. They will get more armor... I'm not keen on the assassin helms either... but ever since the "turn off" option to not see head pieces, I don't see em lol.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

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Join Date: Mar 2005

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Yeah, they're assassins, not ninjas..
When I first saw the male assassin with the spiked hair and headband, I thought of Naruto..
I don't see how they look like Shredder..


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Preview.

dargon

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Join Date: May 2005

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Actually, if I was an assassin, I think I'd want sharp things all over my body like that, provided they didn't interfere with my movements or make noise. Why? Because then people pursuing you will thik twice before they try to grab you, meaningy ou aren't going to be taken prisoner and forced to betray the people who hired you. Sharp things where people would grab you = only way to stop you is kill you.

Teh Azman

Teh Azman

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Join Date: May 2005

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I agree with the assassins not ninjas thing BUT...

Other than the zodiac set (which looks awesome by the way, everything I hoped assassin armor would look like) the assassin armor just looks a bit too...futuristic for guild wars, especially if the next chapter is going to be in a seemingly less advanced continent than Tyria.

Rikimaru

Rikimaru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teh Azman
I agree with the assassins not ninjas thing BUT...

Other than the zodiac set (which looks awesome by the way, everything I hoped assassin armor would look like) the assassin armor just looks a bit too...futuristic for guild wars, especially if the next chapter is going to be in a seemingly less advanced continent than Tyria.
I'd say the new continent is going to be way more advanced than Tyria, I don't remember seeing multi story buildings or any shops in Lion's Arch.

berko

berko

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teh Azman
I agree with the assassins not ninjas thing BUT...

Other than the zodiac set (which looks awesome by the way, everything I hoped assassin armor would look like) the assassin armor just looks a bit too...futuristic for guild wars, especially if the next chapter is going to be in a seemingly less advanced continent than Tyria.
/Agree
Assassin armor looks like Sam Fisher green suit from Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow.

Errm, look familiar




oh wait, that's Sam....

this is what I mean


if you remove the blades, you get Snake Solid in Sam Fisher Armor :P

prodigy ming

prodigy ming

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teh Azman
I agree with the assassins not ninjas thing BUT...

Other than the zodiac set (which looks awesome by the way, everything I hoped assassin armor would look like) the assassin armor just looks a bit too...futuristic for guild wars, especially if the next chapter is going to be in a seemingly less advanced continent than Tyria.
I am sure you don't mean it that way... but they way you put it seems like you meant ancient European culture is far more advance than Asian culture (which is what the Cantha is based on), which is of course not true.
Besides, isn't Cantha suppose to be a "cosmopolitan land of merchants and traders "? .... a country like that couldn't be possibly be less advance than the constantly war shattered land of Ascalon.

Red Locust

Red Locust

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by prodigy ming
I am sure you don't mean it that way... but they way you put it seems like you meant ancient European culture is far more advance than Asian culture (which is what the Cantha is based on), which is of course not true.
Besides, isn't Cantha suppose to be a "cosmopolitan land of merchants and traders "? .... a country like that couldn't be possibly be less advance than the constantly war shattered land of Ascalon.
I think what he meant was that Cantha has the look of a more "traditional" land with old-style architecture and customs, while the assassin looks like he was beamed down from a UFO.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

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Well they could always put them in those dresses...

Honestly thought, I don't think they are that bad. The female infltrators is very cool, I would make very few changes to it.

NatalieD

NatalieD

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Join Date: Aug 2005

The assassin armor is fine. Plain old ninja pajamas are boring! The only real gripe I have is the oversized blades stuck all over. I mean, bladed armor is all well and good, but these look like the work of a tailor with some serious compensation issues.

Ritualist body armor is neat, but I don't like their hats. Even if you select a long hairstyle, it disappears entirely if you're wearing your cap. And if you turn off hat display, then you don't look very ritualistic anymore. They should've little black blindfolds on the faces, or empty white eyes, or something.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

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Oz

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I actually like the hats unlike every other profession they make you a little bit of a mystery. I had fun stuffing around with guildies who were curious as to the features of my rit. as I've been keeping her cap on

nirhan shadowmauler

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Join Date: Dec 2005

potland,oregon

Through the eyes of the dragon [eyes]

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i keep making male assassins and naming them shredder something blah blah blah.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

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Oz

Angel Sharks

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lol actually I agree on the Shredder account. Unfortunately anyone under about 20 won't get the reference

Sagius Truthbarron

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
lol actually I agree on the Shredder account. Unfortunately anyone under about 20 won't get the reference
You know they have a new Ninja Turtles, right? Not sure if Shedder is in it, though.


I think both classes look fine. The Ritualist is great. I'm not liking the assasin so much, but I haven't played as them very much, either.

S H I N O B I

S H I N O B I

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Join Date: Jul 2005

PSC

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Quote:
Originally Posted by NatalieD
The assassin armor is fine. Plain old ninja pajamas are boring!


I disagree. I for one want them "boring" ninja pajamas. Not everyone likes butt hugger pants.



Assassins CAN be ninjas... they're just basically japanese versions of assassins/spies... Besides, Anet adding that Naruto-style head protector is proof that they at least awknowledged the possibility of assassins having a "ninja" theme. Plus, the Chapter 2 theme is kinda asiatic, so why not have some traditional baggy ninja gear??? Commander Kuro and General Yurukaro have semi-traditional Samurai outfits, yet they're technically "warriors".... why not the assassin class???

nirhan shadowmauler

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potland,oregon

Through the eyes of the dragon [eyes]

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naruto style? man thats classic old shit it is. naruto. yuck. grow up.

S H I N O B I

S H I N O B I

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Join Date: Jul 2005

PSC

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huh? Wut does mentioning "Naruto style" have anything to do with me needing to grow up? Because kids watch it? I merely referenced that show to make a point that Anet is aware of the Assassin profession being associated with ninjas.


FYI Naruto isn't the only show to sport those types of headbands. "Basilisk: Koga Ninpo Chou" had them, "Ninja Sentai Kakuranger" had them, and so do other shows... Perhaps mentioning those instead of the "classic old shit" that is Naruto would be better?

Hailfall

Hailfall

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

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Am I the only one who thinks that the Assasin armor with the blades on the side looks like the Tormentors 15k armor?

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S H I N O B I

S H I N O B I

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Join Date: Jul 2005

PSC

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You're not the only one. I think its the protruding blades that are doing the trick... Taking those blades off the Saboteur's armor would make it look better IMO.

necromesmer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ninja pajamas are just for ninjas not assassins. The assassins inflatrator armor is the bomb. All the ritualist armor totaly rocks

Nevin

Nevin

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Join Date: Jul 2005

I never said assassins are Ninjas, but it'd be nice to have a few different veriations example..

Warriors can look like a bunch of different kinds of warriors if you get my drift.
Ascalon armor - Barbarian
Knights/Plate armors - Knight
Gladiator armor - Gladiator (Of course)

Armors should fit themes, the ranger and ele armor fits elements, the mesmer armor has a combinitation of ritzy, seductive, and all that stuff. So why can't assassins? Right now they all look the same, and yes it looks very futuristic, kinda like body armor. I like the beginner armor the assassins have (Visible when you're choosing gender) Simple and clean, now just make the sleeves longer and add shin gaurds and forearm gaurds and tada cool armor.

Now if you still think Ninja styled armor is a bad idea, you really should reconsider.

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

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You do realize that ninjas ALMOST NEVER wore what we consider "ninja-style" armour, that is to say, the pajama-esque stuff... It would have been far too distinctive! I don't particularly care for what they've got now, though, it's a little over the top with the blades stickout out everywhere.

The ritualists armour is pretty sweet though. Pretty darn sweet. ESPECIALLY the hats, or whatever (I suppose that technically, yes, they are blindfolds).

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

How can anyone say that GW assassins aren't ninjas and keep a straight face?

I like Nevin's point about the different styles available to warriors, and agree that it would be neat for assassins to have something similar. Actually it would be neat for any class other than warrior to have something similar, come to think of it.

Teh Azman

Teh Azman

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Join Date: May 2005

I Used Charm Animal On Your [MOM]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Locust
I think what he meant was that Cantha has the look of a more "traditional" land with old-style architecture and customs, while the assassin looks like he was beamed down from a UFO.

Yeah, that's what I meant. And I was actualy only talking about the female sets (I don't know why I do that) I think that the male zodiacs looks... well, literally gay and the other two are the UFO type heh.

Rikimaru

Rikimaru

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
lol actually I agree on the Shredder account. Unfortunately anyone under about 20 won't get the reference
Of course they would, that was a mid-90's cartoon, I remember it.

calamitykell

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

N.Y.C.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NatalieD
How can anyone say that GW assassins aren't ninjas and keep a straight face?


Quote:
Originally Posted by NatalieD
I like Nevin's point about the different styles available to warriors, and agree that it would be neat for assassins to have something similar. Actually it would be neat for any class other than warrior to have something similar, come to think of it.
This is a preview weekend. Pre-view Week-end. If anyone in this thread seriously thinks that everything you see this weekend is all there will be in Factions... kill yourself now. Be patient.

Being creative about what might happen is one thing, complaining that what you want isn't in the game RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND is retarded.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
Now if you still think Ninja styled armor is a bad idea, you really should reconsider.
If GW had a ninja class, ninja armor would be appropriate. This thread is just more of the "I want a ninja class!" "Ok, we don't get a ninja class, so I want ninja armor!". Get over it already, ffs.

Rikimaru

Rikimaru

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The point of this is that it isnt released yet, so if they see that enouph people want it changed, maybe they will. Besides, saying they arent called ninjas is a pretty jackass reason to say that they shouldn't have any ninja-style armor. You might as well say that the mesmer isn't called a Stripper, so they shouldn't have their lingerei armor.

S H I N O B I

S H I N O B I

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Join Date: Jul 2005

PSC

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Quote:
Originally Posted by calamitykell

If GW had a ninja class, ninja armor would be appropriate. This thread is just more of the "I want a ninja class!" "Ok, we don't get a ninja class, so I want ninja armor!". Get over it already, ffs.


Quote:
Originally Posted by S H I N O B Il
Assassins CAN be ninjas... they're just basically japanese versions of assassins/spies... Besides, Anet adding that Naruto-style head protector is proof that they at least awknowledged the possibility of assassins having a "ninja" theme. Plus, the Chapter 2 theme is kinda asiatic, so why not have some traditional baggy ninja gear??? Commander Kuro and General Yurukaro have semi-traditional Samurai outfits, yet they're technically "warriors".... why not the assassin class???
Like I said before... Ninjas are just another version of "Assassin". If Warriors get different themes (i.e. Barbarian, Samurai, Knight, Gladiator, etc..) why can't Assassins? Is there a particular look for an Assassin? Are they supposed to ONLY wear what they wear currently in GW? What's wrong with having a ninja-themed armor option? I know alot of people would want this, and I'm betting that if this option would be available, you'll see alot of assassins wearing this type of armor. Now for the people that think ninjas are "lame", all they have to do is NOT wear the themed armor, and continue to wear the butt hugger pants and S&M style "assassin" armor they're so fond of....


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cjlr
You do realize that ninjas ALMOST NEVER wore what we consider "ninja-style" armour, that is to say, the pajama-esque stuff... It would have been far too distinctive! I don't particularly care for what they've got now, though, it's a little over the top with the blades stickout out everywhere.

The reason for that is because they're usually wearing yamabushi monk, farmer or peasant style gear, acting as spies or what not. However, if you go to Mie Prefecture in Japan and visit the Ninja Museum you'll find that traditional ninja gear is baggy... Reason for this is that so the enemy cannot predict ninja movement in combat since he can't see the shape of his legs and arms (it sort of "blurrs" movement and makes him unpredictable)...

See link:
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e4351.html


Point is, ninjas and assassins are basically the same, so why not have some optional ninja style armor if some people are not diggin the current assassin armor?

SyR1S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

tell me would an assasin want shiny blades that would make noise if he tries to climb somthing or relflect light giving away his possition?? no... i still want that armor to be in game but i also want the choice of a ninja armor just like gwarrios can wear gladiators armor to look like a gladiator.

criticalglitch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by SyR1S
tell me would an assasin want shiny blades that would make noise if he tries to climb somthing or relflect light giving away his possition?? no... i still want that armor to be in game but i also want the choice of a ninja armor just like gwarrios can wear gladiators armor to look like a gladiator.
A true assassin would be skilled enough so that they don't make noise, and the blades don't look all that shiny to me...
See, if I were an assassin, I'd much rather have something sticking out of my leg so that if I were on the rafters above some guy I could just reach down with my leg and impale him in the face. If the spikes weren't there, I'd have to lower my entire body down and slit his throat. Then I'd have to figure out how to prevent myself from falling, which may be another function of the blades.

Keyote

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

The whole assassins are/aren't meant to be ninjas really has nothing to do with how they dress. Elementalists would be considered the wizards of the game, and I'm sure they wouldn't go into battle in skimpy clothing with their breasts falling out.

Personally I think all the new armor looks completely out of place in the game.

Nevin

Nevin

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Join Date: Jul 2005

I just hope the guild wars makers take notice to threads like these and make drastic changes, if you guys are members of any other GW forums I suggest making threads like these if they do not already exist.

Katari

Katari

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Upstate

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The armor that adds +15vs slashing (Eh, forget its name offhand ;p) Looks a bit out of place. The rest of it, imho, looks great. That being said, Sins seem to be abit fragile, 70 armor seems a tad bit low even if they're not susposed to be tanks.

Pompeyfan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Isle of Wight

DVDF

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Have to agree - the assassin armour is horrible. It looks more like an S&M gimp suit than armour, IMO assassins should have a hooded cloak to add to their air of mystery and help them look inconspicuous in a crowd, not bright coloured leathers with blades on them which just advertises their profession (and is hardly feasible when trying to enter places quietly).

Nevin

Nevin

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Another point as come to my mind.. Although I know its a beta and they don't have all the customizable features in it yet, I'd like to critique them. (After all thats what open betas are for, for the community to respond and set the game makers on the right track)

The hair for assassins, (Some of you might hate me for this), but needs to be a little more anime-ish, don't get me wrong I like the ones there are right now, but if there were say, one with two parted bangs and a bandana like this it'd be awesome.



I really like the ninja headband because a mask alone seems rather plain.. Also NINJAS NEED BLACK FOR A HAIRCOLOR, and maybe a dark blue, or greyish purple. And longer styles of hair WITH bangs (Ponytails, jawlength hair that fans out), bangs are key for a cool looking assassin.. Oh yeah can't forget the scars, theres only one scared face at the moment and its more of an old one. They need younger themed faces with scars and thats all I can think of right now.