Would you buy GW:Factions

IxChel

IxChel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

http://sof-guild.com/

Servants of Fortuna

Mo/R

Pay for factions? Only once they've fixed the game to allow me to reconnect after receiving an err=7. I'm in Mexico City, and connections here are quite unreliable; all too often I get 1/2 way through a PvE mission, or just get to the Hall of Heros when I see err=7. It really sucks, especially since I can almost always reconnect and continue... but not where I left off. I'd pay another $50 even with the current content if I could reconnect after an err=7. Unfortunately, I can't really justify factions unless this problem is fixed.

Kamatsu

Kamatsu

Moderator

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

I might be buying it, although I have to admit there are some aspects on the new PvE gameplay I'm not looking forward to at all - specifically the section's where you have to work with/against other players to met the goal. I've given up PUG's in GW because there are too many jerks, idiot's and annoying people out there.. thus I Hench everything.. just to now be forced to PUG whether I want to or not?

I'll admit that's really putting me off Factions right now. I like to be able to choose who I play with.. being forced to play in a PvE mission with another group of players... just doesn't appeal to me.. too great a chance of getting one of those jerk player's in the other group... I do play with other players, but it's by my choice.

The way ANet have said.. some of the PvE mission's in Faction's will have 2 or more groups having to work together to complete the goal.... Whatever happened to "If you don't want to play with people, use henchies instead".. so much for that whole aspect of GW in Faction's.. looks like I'll be forced to play with other people and hope to get teamed with good teams and not the jerk/offensive/etc teams.

But apart from that, looking forward to playing the new classes, also the new skills for "core" skills.. Want to see how they do the new PvE cpontent (and whether I have to put up with playing with other people against my will...).. But I'll wait till after more event's have passed and more information is available.

Markaedw

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

WOOT!!! I already have, and as far as co-op guilds, good thing I have friends in other guilds to team up with.

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by IxChel
Pay for factions? Only once they've fixed the game to allow me to reconnect after receiving an err=7. I'm in Mexico City, and connections here are quite unreliable; all too often I get 1/2 way through a PvE mission, or just get to the Hall of Heros when I see err=7. It really sucks, especially since I can almost always reconnect and continue... but not where I left off. I'd pay another $50 even with the current content if I could reconnect after an err=7. Unfortunately, I can't really justify factions unless this problem is fixed.
That sounds more like a problem with your ISP, rather than the game. Ill most likely get Factions as well, its a FULL game, NOT an expansion, have to look and see if "crossover" with current characters is possible, whether or not we get more characters/storage space(BIG part of decision). Of course, itll be a good while after release when I get it, so that I wont have to deal with as many bugs, exploits, ect. And it will also cost less!

drowningfish999

drowningfish999

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Awakened Tempest [aT]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorebrex
That sounds more like a problem with your ISP, rather than the game. Ill most likely get Factions as well, its a FULL game, NOT an expansion, have to look and see if "crossover" with current characters is possible, whether or not we get more characters/storage space(BIG part of decision). Of course, itll be a good while after release when I get it, so that I wont have to deal with as many bugs, exploits, ect. And it will also cost less!
Actually, Factions IS an expansion, but it can function as stand-alone as well. This mean that it will still work with your current Guild Wars account, allowing character crossover. But if you don't own Guild Wars, you can still buy Factions, and play in the Ch2 areas.

Sordo Forgon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

TNT

W/Mo

i just started guild wars about last month, and as i can see clearly...

IM SOOOO ADDICTED

so...yeah ill buy Factions no more the price or the extra slots i do have a couple questions though...

1) i dont get how you can get your char. from <chapt. 1> to <chapt. 2>

2)is factions like a download to your computer, and if you want to buy for two computers (and two files) do you ned to buy two sets?

3)does factions come with the original guild wars (the one that costs 50 USD)?

4)this is random i know-how many letters can your guild have as an abreviation (for ex: theres a guild named There No Tactics - the chosen abreviation is TNT)

THANKS TO ALL

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sordo Forgon
1) i dont get how you can get your char. from <chapt. 1> to <chapt. 2>
This is something I also question... If there is going to be a new RP story will it start characters off at 20?, But correct me if I'm wrong I thought Factions could be a stand alone game, how would you have level 1's rping with level 20's? Let alone what about the mission difficulties.

My theory is, our rp characters, won't be able to access the RP in Factions, a new character will be required, but for PvP Of course they can do that. (I'm all for making a new character personally, still 3 classes + 2 new, I haven't tried yet)

Reks

Reks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/P

If there was ANY doubt for me about getting Chapter 2, it's gone now thanks to that PVP weekend. Especially the recent screenshots. OMG giant turtles and actual cities!

I'm so making an Assassin. I just have to avoid the stereotype... ><

LordDeArnise

LordDeArnise

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

California, USA

The Elite Knights of Tarnia [PwnD]

Yes...and that would be a Grant and a Lincoln given the current prices of new games today. With bigger PvE areas and the new team tactics that Assassins and Ritualists will bring, this, to me, is a definite must-have for this year.

Banebow

Banebow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

[KoA] Knights of the Alliance

Me/

No questions asked. ANet has givin me above and beyond what I payed for with content updates and balance changes, even if they do not give me any more character slots, I'll be getting it. I cannot bring to mind a single reason not to.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
My theory is, our rp characters, won't be able to access the RP in Factions
I expect that the boat to cross your characters over does not "land" in the first town. Like the boat that leaves from lion's arch to the battle isles, a boat going to cantha does not have to land in the starting town. You will miss some of the content, true, but you can always make a level one character or find a path back to the lower end content (if there is one, which will probably be the case) Mission difficulty will probably scale as it does in chapter one, and since the boat that I assume will travle to cantha leaves from LA then we can guess that you will land in a town with missions comparable in difficulty to the ones around LA. Might not be much of a challenge for a few level 20's, but then, maybe the boat will leave from droknar's (this, of course, is assuming that your characters can travel between the two chapters. But I think they already said you will be able to do that, so it is a mute point)

pappayaponta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Europian Comando force

W/Mo

Gw 2 4tw!! :d

forever

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sordo Forgon
i just started guild wars about last month, and as i can see clearly...

IM SOOOO ADDICTED

so...yeah ill buy Factions no more the price or the extra slots i do have a couple questions though...

1) i dont get how you can get your char. from <chapt. 1> to <chapt. 2>
Your ascended chapter 1 characters can travel to Cantha from the boat at Lions Arch, just like how you travel to Battle Isle, I believe.

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2)is factions like a download to your computer, and if you want to buy for two computers (and two files) do you ned to buy two sets?
If you have only one account, you only need to buy one set and feel free to install the program to as many computers as you wish and log in to your account at any computer. But if you have more than one account, you have to buy each account a new Access Key to be able to play the new content for each account.

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3)does factions come with the original guild wars (the one that costs 50 USD)?
No, because Factions can be a stand alone game, which does not require original GW to function.

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4)this is random i know-how many letters can your guild have as an abreviation (for ex: theres a guild named There No Tactics - the chosen abreviation is TNT)

THANKS TO ALL
Four letters, IIRC.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

i think everyone will start off with level 20 chars, also the guys that just started an a/ri

Zakarr

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

Guild Wars is so cheap that I would feel like a thief if I don't buy GW Factions too.

Echo Ecko x

Echo Ecko x

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Somewhere Drinking Moutain Dew..

R/Me

Oh yeah.. im gettin it.

Yamat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

San Diego, USA

If it only adds 1 character slot I won't be buying it...

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

yeah its all slots to me, another $50 for just 1-2 and I'll have to pass on my 2 household accounts

just so bizarre to give us so many options, to hamstring us so completely meh

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamat
If it only adds 1 character slot I won't be buying it...
That's the main reason I'm buy Factions: more characters slots. I hope it's 2 but if I only get one that'll be fine. I only wasn't the new professions as secondaries anyway.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Yes, I would be getting the CE version of factions

Anyone notice when you click on the boat from within Battle Isle it give you Lions Arch as a the only option but appears to be a "list" for future cities (chapters) you can warp to.

Not only that they have stated in the past the Chapter 2 will have as much pve content as Chapter 1.

To be honest, Anet is going to be selling C2 as a new game (it is) that "adds" on to C1 if you already have it. There is going to be a bunch of new sales of C2 only people.

Starsky-sama

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

/Yez

The only question I have come release time is, make it stand alone or upgrade my ch.1...

The final charac slot(s) result will decide my ingame fate...

Brutal

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

UK

Hired Killers [HK]

Mo/

I'm another definate YES to buying Factions. GW has captured my imagination more than any other game I have ever been involved in. The PvE storylines are great and add to that the awesome tactical/skill aspect of the PvP and this game has great longevity. I'm not the greatest PvP player out there but it is still great fun and blows my mind when I watch the 'big boys' of PvP battling it out and the skill/tactics and planning they put into it.
So adding to the fun I get from playing single player, multi-player or just watching others playing then if ANet are going to add to that then you better believe I'm going to be along for the ride.

RBK

RBK

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

England

Forgotten oF Cantha

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyrrhus
Considering it'd have about double the content of the core game and it's stand-alone it's worth every penny. My only problem with it would be that it isn't released yet.. I'll buy not only factions but every chapter that follows because of my love for the game and the brilliance of Anet.
I couldn’t agree more with you my friend. I can’t wait till it come out. It’s one of the, if the not the best Online RPG game I have ever played. And factions PVE is meant to be double in length. How cool is that. Guild wars is an amazing game. Thank you Anet for making such an amazing game free, and for that we will always love you lol !

Praetor Zeratul

Praetor Zeratul

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Annandale, Virigina

Warforce Clan

E/Mo

of course im problably going to buy it. but im just hoping for even more gameplay and after game play material in it. keep me hooked guys

j_unit66

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

team love [kiSu]

W/

hells yes

Jade

Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Canada...... Eh!

I'm personally giddy with anticipation. Now here's a question: if Factions is stand alone, then can I install it in a different directory (like installing 2 copies of the original)? If I do, then can Factions characters play in any of the original missions? Anyways, I have to get back to getting my time machine to work so I can get Factions before anyone else! Now, where did I put that flux capacitor.........

maybe_im_getting_the_game

maybe_im_getting_the_game

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

i will buy it

plastichead

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jade
I'm personally giddy with anticipation. Now here's a question: if Factions is stand alone, then can I install it in a different directory (like installing 2 copies of the original)? If I do, then can Factions characters play in any of the original missions? Anyways, I have to get back to getting my time machine to work so I can get Factions before anyone else! Now, where did I put that flux capacitor.........
I have been wondering the same thing myself.
If I purchse Factions, will I just need the key?
Will I need to download the client?
Will it just upgrade the one I already have?
Will it be a separate account?
How exactly will it work with the current version?

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by plastichead
I have been wondering the same thing myself.
If I purchse Factions, will I just need the key?
Will I need to download the client?
Will it just upgrade the one I already have?
Will it be a separate account?
How exactly will it work with the current version?
http://www.guildwars.com/aboutgw/faq...ctions-faq.php

1. You just add the factions key to your existing account
2. Uses the same client
3. Yes unless you use the key to create a new seperate account
4. You can if you want to have two accounts (but can't access the other's chapter stuff), or add it to your current one and get access to both.

5. From FAQ

Will I be able to take my existing characters in the new areas of the world? Do they keep their items, their levels, etc?

You will be able to travel to the new land, Cantha, with your Ascended Guild Wars characters. Inventory items, skills, and other possessions and attainments from Guild Wars remain yours with the release of Guild Wars Factions.

How do I get to Cantha?
Players who own both Factions and Guild Wars can travel by boat between the two continents through Lion's Arch or Seitung Harbor.

Hanok Odbrook

Hanok Odbrook

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Tyria

Real Millennium Group

Mo/N

My decision to buy Factions will be based on a few things:

1) The number of additional character slots provided by Factions
2) The amount of increased storage for items
3) The nature of the Quest Rewards
4) The cost of upgrading a current account with Factions

Since Factions is designed to be a stand-alone sequel to Prophecies (much like Wizardry V - Heart of the Maelstrom is to any of the first three games in that vintage series), presumably there will be a minimum of four character slots available - more likely bumped up to five or six at the most with the addition of the two new professions.

However, it is highly doubtful that it will translate into an equal number of slots when upgrading a current GW account with a Factions key. More than likely, we will end up getting two additional slots when adding Factions (and the same for those who get Factions first and later add Prophecies) - for a total of six characters per account with both games. And that is unfortunate, as there are many players like myself who want to play through the entire game with each primary profession without having to delete a well used high level character to do so. Quite frankly, the time I spent exploring Chapter 1 with each of my current characters is far too valuable to me to simply delete out of hand in order to experiment with new builds. With the new chapter (and all subsequent chapters to follow), there should be one character slot available for each primary profession in the game - which means players owning both Prophecies and Factions should get eight slots.

The experience rewards for the quests will also be a major factor in whether Factions will be worth adding to a current account. We already know that the level cap will not be raised, but level 20 characters still gain experience and skill points for each XP roll over they achieve. However, with new skills, more skill points will be needed in order to make the most of them, unless all new non-elite skills will end up being quest rewards. If there will be skills only provided by vendors, then how will the XP rewards of the new quests be designed to be of any use to level 20 characters without be overpowered for new lower level characters? This really has not been explained at all by the devs.

I don’t believe the final cost of the Factions has yet been officially determined or announced, but we can all presume it will be the same as the first game, whether it is purchased for stand-alone use or to upgrade a current account. Anet will use the fact that there is more than double the content of the first game to justify charging full price for what is basically and expansion for those who upgrade their current accounts with the new game. Of course, that means players who only buy Factions are getting a better deal than those who may just buy (or have bought) Prophecies. Still, when you consider that with each primary profession you play, you actually get an entirely different gaming experience, I would hate to buy Factions and only be able to play 75% of the combined chapters’ potential (assuming 6 character slots for 8 primary professions). For 100 bucks, I am kinda wanting to play at that 100% potential without having to sacrifice and previous play time to reach it.

Looking at the bigger picture, if you consider that most MMO’s charge $15-$25 a month for their fees, Guild Wars will still be a bargain even with two $50 releases per year (about $8.35 per month - $16.70 for those who continue to upgrade two accounts). I haven’t played any of the other big name MMO’s, but I doubt that they offer as much additional content throughout the year for the money that Anet is promising to offer. The price seems right to me, but without some of the tweaks to character slots and storage, I still might have to forgo future expansions to save my money for the next big game to come along that probably will offer those tweaks, and more.

Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
http://www.realmillenniumgroup.com/guild.html
Truth * Knowledge * Peace

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Not to mention the expansions other games also sell...

i.e., WoW, where you have to pay a monthly fee, and will probably end up buying the expansions too.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanok Odbrook
we will end up getting two additional slots when adding Factions
actually the decision is between ONE additional slot and TWO.

3-4 additional on a merged account seem to have been ruled out already.

6 if we are lucky or 5 if not.

this would keep the present ratio in place

3 slots for 6 professions (pri/sec) plus 1 free for pvp or whatever

4 slots for 8 professions (pri/sec) plus 1 free for pvp or whatever

Mimi Miyagi

Mimi Miyagi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Port Orchard, WA

The Second Foundation: [TSF]

At first when factions was announced, I was leaning towards buying it, now, with the interviews they have published, with hints at what types of gameplay we'll be buying, I'm not so sure. Factions *appears* to be HEAVILY slanted towards PVP play, of which I have little interest in.

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

I want it for free......

pigdestroyer

pigdestroyer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Chavos Del [ocho]

W/

Ive spended that quantity of money in dumber stuff why not buy the exp of my fav game ever?

Ensabah Nur

Ensabah Nur

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

State of Confusion

Army Of Apocalypse (AOA)

R/Mo

For those that don't know Alex Weekes works for NCSoft/Anet this original thread can be found here http://forums.gwonline.net/showthread.php?t=384936

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Weekes
*ahem* Looks like what I was trying to say was not as clear as it could have been. So, before this road gets travelled any further:


An original Prophecies access key can be used to create an account that gives 4 character slots and access to the Prophecies campaign. This will not change.


A Factions access key can be used in either of two ways:

To create a brand new account. If used in this way, you get an account that grants access to Factions content and gives 4 character slots. This is exactly the same as current accounts work except with a different campaign.

It can be added to a pre-existing Prophecies account. If used in this way, you will have a single account with access to the content from both campaigns. You will also have 4+x character slots.



Merging accounts is not possible (and won't be for the foreseeable future). If you want your characters to be able to travel from Tyria to Cantha or vice versa, you must use your Factions access key to upgrade an existing account.
Let me apologize in advance to all the people I'm about to tick off, but I'm getting rather perturbed by this subject myself lately....

And yet with all this "clarification" we still have no clue how many total character slots we will get if we combine our Prophecies account with our Factions account. Thanks bunches for clearing that up Alex.

I will say this; Here Alex clearly states that Factions alone will have 4 character slots, so at a very minimum if we combine Factions with Prophecies we should have 8 total slots, anything more is gravy and fine with me, anything less than 8 is bull****. Why should already loyal passengers paying for an extended trip recieve less than passengers just boarding the ship?

That being said(and I hope I'm wrong), I am under the believe/feeling that what is not being said is speaking louder than what is being said because if Anet was going to give Prophecies+Factions owners 8 or more total character slots they would have stated so already to help increase interest of purchasing Factions to current Prophecies owners/players.

FYI ,We want to know exactly what numerical value x is.

Xue Yi Liang

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Northern CA

Outlaws of the Water Margin

Mo/Me

I'd only get Factions if it was for sale.

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

same as me , i just cant w8 for it anymore !!! aaahhhhhhhhh

can you imagine , running missions , exploring towns , etc etc , start everything all over , now with the experience from the first one ...

i just hope american version comes to macau , or i will have to w8 like 3 weeks after launch date to have mine. as usual.

this time i want to most expencive huge box with posters , clothes , maps , concept art books , everything in it ... special collector for fanatics , thats the one i want.

tastegw

tastegw

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

SoCal

E/

i think id still buy it if it costed 200 bucks. money well spent.

now lets not get any ideas anet and crew!

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimi Miyagi
At first when factions was announced, I was leaning towards buying it, now, with the interviews they have published, with hints at what types of gameplay we'll be buying, I'm not so sure. Factions *appears* to be HEAVILY slanted towards PVP play, of which I have little interest in.
A total of 300 new skills, including 90 new elite skills, for the two new Factions professions and the six core professions from Guild Wars

More than 50 new locales, including story missions, combat arenas, and explorable areas

More than 100 new creatures

New guild halls

New faces, hair styles, and armor sets for both Factions and the core professions

New pets

Hundreds of new weapons and items

more then 50 new locales , doesnt sound to me like Factions will be HEAVILY slanted towards PVP play

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

If the results of other people's (or even my own!) PvP matches is going to affect my PvE options to a significant level, I'm not buying. The UW/FoW/favor of the gods thing was bad enough. Also, less than 2 extra slots and my wallet stays firmly sealed as well.