Please be carefull everyone, not that there is alot you can do but be carefull. There are people going to the new underworld area 'freeloading' a ride until the end. I have had this done to me twice. Once (the first time) The player helped for ten minutes before standing there throughout playing the lagger. The second time somone tried it but we died anyway. So it didnt matter.
The first time this happened the player plain ignorant stood there. But the most stupid thing about it was that he wasnt afk because whenever the enemy came too close he ran from danger. I can understand why somone would stand there trying for a free ride - go afk for a couple hours, help on the bosses at the end, get your greens. I can understand this i say, the method behind it. Of course I dont agree with it.
But to blatantly be there all that time and not help at all is even more cheep and actually if he had of helped, it would also have reduced the time spent there.
The saddest thing about this is this is only unsociable behaviour. It isnt actually a violation as in swearing at a player etc, So as I know nothing can be done about it. As it happened the player decided to be smart and give me abuse afterwards so I got him bollocked on that one. I was very happy with the way Anet dealt with this btw, although they cant tell you the action taken. They can tell you when they have taken the action - I was told in email 'within seven days' but they dealt with it in about half an hour. So thank you.
Of course I am aware I will be making people aware of this who would do such things themselves. But they way I see it is, somone else would have noticed and mentioned soon enough all the same. I propose some kind of system should be made so that if Anet are recieving multiple reports of individuals doing this then a ban should be enforced.
New form of laming in the new UW
Dave83
aron searle
The sad thing is, im not suprised.
Murder In China
Just lead the monsters to him so he dies.
Keyote
I dont know why there isn't some kind of vote system to have people kicked from the group. People join groups for a free ride too often.
MrBugs
That is just sad and pathetic...
Lasher Dragon
Well, when you get a game that goes out of its way to make sure people have to group up to accomplish anything, you are bound to get the flood of morons and lamers. I've been avoiding the HoH like the plague 
too much stress for me. I'd rather make a bit of gold solo farming lower level areas than deal with PUGs in a high level area for a shot at a green item that's no better than the collector stuff I already have.
Star Gazer
well, I actually had a friend who was the ss/sv necro in the old uw, going with a solo monk. An ecto dropped for my friend, and the monk just all of the sudden leads the group to him, and lets him die. the monk simply waited for the ecto to turn free, and stole it. there are a TON of scammers, and thats the reason why I have not done this area with a pug yet. too many factors, too much hard work, and too many idiots out there waiting to ruin the fun.
Dave83
Yeah. We tried to but he just ran along the wall each time we led monsters to him. Plus each level completed, players get respawned anyway. But yes this is one way that offers some defence if you catch them not keeping an eye out on the last level.
I agree that it would be nice to have a vote system, though it would probably create problems as well. Especially in this new area if people wanted to gang up on others to increase their green drop chances.
I agree that it would be nice to have a vote system, though it would probably create problems as well. Especially in this new area if people wanted to gang up on others to increase their green drop chances.
Mustache Mayhem
yeah just shows what kind of people play gw really.. I mean I had a green time out while making sure our group was safe- only to have a guy run up and grab it and die.. this last time the group got overzealous I guess- everyone died but me and and elem and the greens were all over the floor.. I coulda let them time and took em all.. instead I rezzed everyone only to get beoytched out for it- it's just the way poor people are.. they really have nothing and this is thier chance to get it.. just play cutthroat in there it does'nt matter- have'nt met many decent people in gw pugs.. not to mention you end up carrying most of the newbs who think they can stand under a meteor shower
Racthoh
That is one of the downfalls of this area for sure; the loot is at the end. Players may act nice for the whole trip, but once the good loot comes into question its survival of the fittest.
Caged Fury
It's not just nice loot that can bring these kind of players out. I've encountered similar players before, mainly in missions areas - 'Frost Gate', 'Gates of Kryta', 'Divinity Coast' just to name afew.
They always blame lag or say 'brb' and therefore for not being able to join fights, but neither of those stop them from running away from danger or running to pick up their drops. Nice and easy 1000/2000 Xp for them without having to lift a finger to help the team.
They always blame lag or say 'brb' and therefore for not being able to join fights, but neither of those stop them from running away from danger or running to pick up their drops. Nice and easy 1000/2000 Xp for them without having to lift a finger to help the team.
Deathqueen
The item time out feature needs to be increased to 30 minutes. I've seen this all too often too of people waiting to rez you after your item has timed out.
fiery
how about stop joining PUGS or do more Guildies in a PUG than random people.
that being said.. some Pugs are alrite and you get scammers why not limit yourself and do it with people you know.
that being said.. some Pugs are alrite and you get scammers why not limit yourself and do it with people you know.
sysfailur
Yeah I had a thread deleted with pics of a guy who did this same thing. He was a 55 with the name of "sysfailur ftmfw". After we got down there he just tanked and then when the doors open he went smite whoring.
So lame. Watch out for these people
Mod Edit - you know the rules, no names, not even just "partial" names.
So lame. Watch out for these people
Mod Edit - you know the rules, no names, not even just "partial" names.
Sunsu Pyro
Oh well. This farm run can be done even if 1 guy ain't doing anything. You just need the right build.
Esprit
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PUGs are unstable for this type of run. Going with a group of Guildmates is your best bet.
snapp
I played UW with a full awesome PUG, we all worked and played hard for the 1 hour+ long run and at the end myself and two others didn't even get a green. Thats a rant for another time though, but imagine how disappointed and just totally bitter you would be if this moron who did nothing while you worked your butt off for probably one of the longest runs in the entire game got an awesome green and you got nothing.
In a normal PUG where everyone is doing their job it is hard to say who is more deserving to get a good drop and who isn't. This guy and people like him it's easy though...yet they still are the ones who get the drops, when someone who played the whole run, probably missed out.
In a normal PUG where everyone is doing their job it is hard to say who is more deserving to get a good drop and who isn't. This guy and people like him it's easy though...yet they still are the ones who get the drops, when someone who played the whole run, probably missed out.
Lady Frost Bite
i do pugs into uw and fow but if i start the group i make sure to have at least 2 guildies with us one being a monk so if we see ppl trying to leach just to get drops or something like that myself(i'm a warrior)and my other guild mates that are with me(usually on vent) will just say sorry to everyone else and let them know that we are leaving the group and let them know why, if there are some good ppl in the group and its just one guy messing it up we will tell the others to meet back in whatever dis. and offer to pay to go back in and just reform the group without the a**hat
Rhuobhe
A similar thing happened to me last night. A guildmate needed to do the RoF mission so we got 5 guild members together to do it.
Not wanting to deal with henchmen, we picked up another 3 strangers.
Well, guess what? All 3 of them were there for capping only. As soon as the Elementalist and Necromancer got thier caps - they dropped out.
The last PUG guy, wanted a cap that we hadn't encountered yet. &%$* that. We just went on to beat the mission and said to hell with him.
Finished the mission, if you go for a frontal assault it's really easy and not much to worry about.
I wish parent's would stop buying MMORPG's (or *ORPG in GW case) for thier 8 year old kids.
Not wanting to deal with henchmen, we picked up another 3 strangers.
Well, guess what? All 3 of them were there for capping only. As soon as the Elementalist and Necromancer got thier caps - they dropped out.
The last PUG guy, wanted a cap that we hadn't encountered yet. &%$* that. We just went on to beat the mission and said to hell with him.
Finished the mission, if you go for a frontal assault it's really easy and not much to worry about.
I wish parent's would stop buying MMORPG's (or *ORPG in GW case) for thier 8 year old kids.
Fantus
If there is any way to be an asshole - people will figure it out.
Sereng Amaranth
over aggro, get him killed, have 1 with rez run far away from everyone else 
WasAGuest
I'm missing the point of a free-ride I guess. Why just tag along and not fight with the group? If... well, no really, I just don't get it. If you die someone will rez you. If no one will rez you, then your in a bad group anyway. If anything, your skills and "shots" will help get to the end sooner...
I'm just missing the point of a free ride. Seems like a dull way to play (or not to play depending on how you look at it) and a sure way to not get re-invited the next time around.
PS. This post really has me baffled and I don't know why... lol
I'm just missing the point of a free ride. Seems like a dull way to play (or not to play depending on how you look at it) and a sure way to not get re-invited the next time around.
PS. This post really has me baffled and I don't know why... lol
Sagaris
Well, I was playing with a couple of people in the 'new' UW, halfway the 3rd map I had to go and eat, half of my party said I should leave and the other half didn't mind me staying afk there, I stayed way back at the beginning of the map so if something dropped it was not me who it was getting assigned to. I came back when they were halfway through the fourth map, when it was getting hard for them. I helped them and we succeeded in killing the Darknesses, ironically I got Milius' Eye and Victo's Blade.
Do you guys consider this a wrong thing to do? I would like to know, thanks!
Do you guys consider this a wrong thing to do? I would like to know, thanks!
Kook~NBK~
Go with guildies - safest way to avoid jerks like that, the one's along for the free ride. Or you could just take henchies (HAHAHAHA!)
Now that they've got the mapping feature to the entire party, if you catch someone leeching, just map back to the outpost, kick the loser, and pick up a replacement.
Now that they've got the mapping feature to the entire party, if you catch someone leeching, just map back to the outpost, kick the loser, and pick up a replacement.
Ayres_Spellbinder
I think it's wrong. Knowing that this mission takes 2 to 3 hours, you should be able to set the time aside to complete the mission. I can understand running to get a drink and use the bathroom, but damn, just bring your food to your computer.
MSecorsky
I ran into the same thing. Problem was... it was out second monk doing it (I was the other). Surprisingly, we survived the first level, during which we were calling him out trying to get a little support. Good pug otherwise... smart on the aggro, etc. Second level, the free-rider simply charges out in aggro, gets everyone killed (including himself), says "You guys suck" and leaves.
Real pity too... we replaced him with another monk and went all the way. A little help, he'd have had his shot at a green.
Real pity too... we replaced him with another monk and went all the way. A little help, he'd have had his shot at a green.
CKaz
had someone like that in the original uw - wanted everyone to have 1mil xp/wish'd there was a minimum, everyone else is a noob, goes on to get himself killed, be useless, spam all our chat channels, and start all the quests so we die. wtf is the point? only this SOB knows.
some lame monk which I'll refrain from posting the name... not sure why but I will.
some lame monk which I'll refrain from posting the name... not sure why but I will.
generik
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I'm missing the point of a free-ride I guess. Why just tag along and not fight with the group?
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If... well, no really, I just don't get it. If you die someone will rez you. If no one will rez you, then your in a bad group anyway. If anything, your skills and "shots" will help get to the end sooner...
I'm just missing the point of a free ride. Seems like a dull way to play (or not to play depending on how you look at it) and a sure way to not get re-invited the next time around. PS. This post really has me baffled and I don't know why... lol |
It is really no biggie.
What we really need is Karma, a way for party members to leave feedback. AND have drops that depend on karma ratings.
Perrin Golden Eyez
It's lamers like this that make me wish you could go Hostile against them like you could in D2. although I understand why you cant. I just can't stand lamers.
Two April Mornings
i feel bad for you. in my runs that never happened, but if it did id b pissed as hell.
Dave83
Yes I think its wrong. Dont start a game you cant commit to properly is my opinion - since you asked about it.
Fatty Fatty Boomballati
Report him you have his name(hopefully) and a screen shot of him being a rider, it is the same as a free run.
Tijger
So, from this topic I gather some 55's have found a way to get into the new UW? Not surprising really, most teams dont want to take them into the new UW from what I've seen.
Good for them (not) but it wont happen to me, if I see anyone like that I'll make sure I jump back to town, I'd rather waste some time then give a jerk like that a free ride and I think most players will feel the same way.
Had a 55'er with us the other day, after 3 deaths he kinda stayed dead, rebirth wouldnt get him back up, I think we ressed him 12 times just for the laugh it gave us
Good for them (not) but it wont happen to me, if I see anyone like that I'll make sure I jump back to town, I'd rather waste some time then give a jerk like that a free ride and I think most players will feel the same way.
Had a 55'er with us the other day, after 3 deaths he kinda stayed dead, rebirth wouldnt get him back up, I think we ressed him 12 times just for the laugh it gave us
=HT=Ingram
as much as I dont like the abuse of a kick a leader could do at the end of the run. it sure would be nice to be able to kick a guy like that.. oh well..
berko
I think a "Call Vote" would be perfect in a situation like this.
Someone in the group calls a vote (/kickplayer 'Name Here' or something similar) and the others act uppon it by simply typing /1 or /2. (1=YES 2=NO)
If majority rules YES, then the game kicks a player back to outpost where you came from and you continue your mission happily without the jerk.
Someone in the group calls a vote (/kickplayer 'Name Here' or something similar) and the others act uppon it by simply typing /1 or /2. (1=YES 2=NO)
If majority rules YES, then the game kicks a player back to outpost where you came from and you continue your mission happily without the jerk.
nirhan shadowmauler
yea i was bein a stance tank once in SF and i was standing there tanking all this stuff and i get a nice rare armor drop. well by the time i can get over to my drop it times out and some bitch monk goes and steals it. and then hes like wow superior absorption. i left the group right there.
SilentAssassin
well actually I come across many of these ppl, but I don't bother to much with it.. yes its irritating, but everybody is always acting like PUG's are horrible, I've played many times with PUG groups and met alot of nice ppl, yes offcourse there are some dirty appels (spelling :s) in there but look at the bright side you learn new ppl... 
I got to admit that these things are very irritating
I got to admit that these things are very irritating
BBoy_Manchild
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I dont know why there isn't some kind of vote system to have people kicked from the group. People join groups for a free ride too often.
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anyways, this happens all the time.... well either that or they are just crappy monks who dont back up with the rest of the team and die alot
NightOwl
I tried UW one time and one time only. I was playing my monk, and in the group that I joined there were two others. I figured 3 was a bit much, but as I'd never been I didn't say anything, perhaps it was difficult enough to warrant that. Get down there...2 55 monks went different directions, pulled tons of agro back to the group to get everyone killed, then farm up the place.
That's all I needed to see, no more UW for me, I don't need to lose money to put up with that. I play nearly all pvp these days, unless a guildmate needs one of my pve chars to assist on something.
That's all I needed to see, no more UW for me, I don't need to lose money to put up with that. I play nearly all pvp these days, unless a guildmate needs one of my pve chars to assist on something.
Sagaris
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I think it's wrong. Knowing that this mission takes 2 to 3 hours, you should be able to set the time aside to complete the mission. I can understand running to get a drink and use the bathroom, but damn, just bring your food to your computer.
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