15k Armor Unlocking for PvP Chars

I would like for the 15k armor types (purchased by RPG chars at the grotto and citadel) to be unlockable through faction for PvP characters to wear. I realize this is a major investment for RPG chars and so should be equally costly to unlock. This would be a gimmick for faction, just like it is in RPG.

An extreme cost would be 10k faction to unlock one piece from one armor type for one class. Then it would take 40k faction to unlock a single set of armor.

I played an RPG ranger for a long time, and I love the model for the 15k Druid's armor set. However, I have since switched to playing a PvP ranger because I have more skills unlocked to use for 2ndary classes. I would very much like to be able to use all my skills for PvP *and* have the armor I like to wear.

Another option would be to allow people who have purchased nice armors in RPG to automatically unlock the purchased armors for PvP. Faction seems like a more apt approach, but 'earning' it in RPG is almost as good.

Any reason this shouldn't be added?

Search is your new best friend.

if you do this you need something to give to pve chars.

mr search button is my friend.

he helps me find useless posts that could have been added to all the other dead threads on this subject.

basically there are 2 types of rewards.

pvp gets fame and rank

PVE gets the vaniety items.

if you want to get a PVE reward do the PVE to get it.

otherwise let me have rank at 25k/rank

Er, why?

Why should PvP characters be getting PvE rewards? Wouldn't it make sense for us PvE players to get something as well...

No... you dont deserve it... it's for PvE... same as greens.

Tough titty.

ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY NOT!!!

15K armor, just like Fissure armor and green items, are something special to reward PvE players for their time, effort, patience, and willingness to play the real game instead of PvP. You can't get them unless you earn them. Period.

Get to work.

Heh, no thanks; I think I'd rather play PvP.

exactly my point. thanks vila!

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15k armor is for pve characters only you pvp people cant have them

I think ANET made a bad move by separating the community into two
- PvE
- PvP

Should everyone be equal there will be no complaints

PvP should get some new armor. Maybe if they did some type of level thing for the unlock. You have to unlock 10? levels (like unlocking minor and major before superior) before you can get 1 piece of armor. Each level being 10k faction.

i reckon that armour should be unlocked as your pve character gets it. So, if you get 15k armour of a type, you can get it for a pvp char.

But then again, it is the pve special thing, pvp is already being supported way too well it seems...like faction complaints...ugh...used to be 5 faction or somethin for winning lvl 20 arenas...now it's 25 + another 25 if you win flawless....faction is now worthless.

PvP = INFEDELS

What's with all the hostility towards PVP?

edit: I've asked this before in other threads without enlightenment, so I guess I should just give up, but still... I totally don't get it.

Suppose it's gripe when something is introduced in the game it's labeled either 'PvP addition' or 'PvE addition', and when there's PvP addition, PvE people cry for additions, and vice versa. Then it's all hating when other groups wants something because it would hurt the other group somehow.

That's what I'm guessing anyways..

Hopefully this will be sorted out in Factions with the new kinds of gameplay...

Oh, and to the OP: search...

Here are some threads I found very easily on this exact same topic...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=33373

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=58918

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=73840
This one being the biggest and containing a large scale quoting argument...if you wanted to talk about it I would suggest you revived this one asking what people think now.

And a bunch of other threads that put forward the same idea amongst other things...

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As a PvP player myself I don't think this should be allowed. If your such a good PvP player, then you should be able to win a load of sigils to get the money, and PvE isn't that hard. I use a PvE character in PvP, just bought the green items, runes and armor with all the sigils I win ^^

As I say, want the vanity? Do the grind...

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They should be happy to have a whole selection of droks armor, along with the FREE pvp superior abs/vigor runes that'd cost a pve character tons to buy.

If it were up to me it'd be just collector armors for pvp

a) Farming is not "the real game"

b) PvE is not "the real game"

c) Get off your "I spend hours and hours and hours working to get fictional rewards" high horse.

Even Osama knows how to spell properly... shame on you.

My monk wears 15k Wanderer's. I bought it. Why can't a monk I create for a quick GVG wear it too? I earned it myself, after all.

I see no reason for this not to be implemented.

Aesthetics = PvE
Skills and functionality = PvP

If you want a PvP character with 15k armor, create a PvE character, go farm to buy it, go farm to get perfect weapons, and go farm to unlock all 450 skills on that character. Now you can PvP on a comparable level.

In the same time I get 15k + materials ATM with all the nerfed farming places, I could get 2 pieces of 15k armor unlocked through PvP. 10k is rediculous, especially since Faction can now be farmed on the Battle Isles.

The only time you should be allowed to have a 15k armor on a PvP character is if you lose the armor when you delete the charcater. That would be fair. You buy the armor for your W/x, but if you want to reroll him as a W/y, you lose it and have to rebuy it again.

Besides, I doubt ANet is going to give you 15k armors, because
A) They were intended as goals for the farmers, the PvE farmers
B) Once you get those, you'll start complaining why the PvE players get nicer weapon models

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I hear this so often, but never any sort of reason for it.

Yeah, this is probably the only way I would agree with it. Still means you have to get it in PvE first, but at least you can put it on in PvP to show that you're not a total PvP person.

Why wouldn't you be able to use greens in pvp? Can't you just stick it from PvE into your storage and use it with your PVP? err.....

some massive gold sink, if i ever saw one

"Signet of Minor Disapproval"

-15k Armor is a PvE goal, period.
-The "reward", i.e. the feeling of accomplishment, of attaining the 15k armor, is not fictional. So it's hardly an arrogent position to defend limiting the opportunity to aquire it to those who work for it.
-I would agree with the unlocking of the armor in PvP THROUGH PvE, that's fair. That would create a great gold sink if you had to unlock every piece of every armor. And we need more gold sinks.

I hate to jump in on a topic I thought was long dead ago, but somehow it keeps popping up.
Unlocking armor for PvP isn't some stupid idea that no one likes.
Otherwise we wouldn't suggest it.
PvP'ers love the game just as much as PvE'ers do.
If we don't want to fight monsters with the same name for gold drops should we be punished?
I mean alot of us are willing to do the extra few miles just to make our characters look better.
High faction costs, unlocking first in PvE before you can unlock it in PvP.
I've done my fair share of farming in PvE, but you know what I'm done with that chapter for now.
It's not like PvP'ers never PvE'ed in their life.
I'm sure I can safely say that everyone that has played Guild Wars, has played the PvE portion.
Us PvP'ers just decided that we love PvP so much we are willing to make 1 or 2 slots specifically just for PvP purposes.
I know I can safely say, no matter what I get for my PvE character, whether it be FoW armor, perfect weapons, or anything.
I would never bring a PvE character into PvP, because I have a PvP slot for a reason... and it's for PvP.
I mean I've gotten over that I want FoW armor, 15k armor, and other stuff, but I mean seriously.
If we are willing to put in the work and time for these items, why can't we have them?

PvE'rs can do the /rank emote. Why can't PvP'rs use 15k armor after unlocking it in PvE?

PvE chars can play pvp.

I choked on my coke on that one.

Also, /unsigned If you want the advantages of PVE in PVP, do the time in PVE. PVP players already get a free jump into PVP from day one. Free armor, free weapons, nice mods, everything to be competitive from day 1. PVEers have to work for what we get and I certainly build my PVE characters up to eventually play PVP, with their FoW armor/15k armor and nice green or gold drop kewl LOOKING weapons and equipment. That's OUR reward for playing the PVE game which we deserve. (smile)

Those premades are competitive. Competitive doesn't mean the BEST, but, they are competitive none the less and have elites and good skills in all of them. And the game wasn't designed for PVP to crossover into PVE, GW's was designed to play PVE UP to PVP. But, they were nice enough to give those too lazy to PVE a little bit, but, you aren't going to get the whole cake and caboodle until you play the game as it was intended PVE to PVP. (smile)

(1)Sure ill get that done as soon as you tell me how to get my pvp char into granite citadel to buy my armor. pvp chars cant get into pve to buy armor and making a pve char isnt an option because im not going to grind 75k+materials+skills everytime someone needs me to play a different build.

(2)Yes we get armor and weapons, but not skills, mods and other stuff needed to be competitive in pvp. And if pve players started at lvl 20(i.e. "free jump") wouldnt that defeat the purpose of pve?

I would only agree to having a set of 15K unlocked for PvP if you got it in PvE. That way only people who have earned it can use it for PvP characters.

Otherwise no. I see no reason why PvP exclusive players should have the ability to suit up their PvP characters anytime with 15K or Fissure for free, when PvE'ers have to bust their asses just to get one set for one character.

No, I would say definately not. I try to stay away from topics like this for a while but every now and then I've got to throw in an opinion right?

My PvE character doesn't get free dye for his armor. My PvE character doesn't get a massive menu of weapons and other equipment to choose from, free of charge, my PvE character doesn't get buy every single weapon/skill/focus item/shield/rune equipment upgrade for a fair, reasonably set price like PvP characters do---to use on EVERY PvE character I set up no less, not even once I've beaten the game. Why the HELL should PvP characters be able to unlock 15k armor, without having to buy the materials or craft them, and be able to use it on ALL of the PvP characters they make of that profession when my PvE character has to...earn the money for the materials, go craft the materials if I need to, sometimes even play the market (because material prices CHANGE unlike every single thing you unlock with faction), etc---when a PvP character could just boom, get some faction, unlock it and there he has it for all his PvP characters of that profession (which would be a must for the most part, being that people delete/remake PvP characters frequently).

No. PvE players have to do quite a lot to get their unique armors, and they have to put up with a lot more stupid shit (like trading, finding reasonable prices for EVERYTHING, etc) to get their characters maxed than a PvP character. They have the right to a certain bonus when it comes to how your character looks, I'd have to say. If you give PvP characters 15k armor to unlock via faction, you better give me the ability to get whatever weapon/focus/shield etc from a huge menu for free, like a PvP character. And while you're at it give PvE characters a huge trader that has a set price on every single maxed out weapon mod in the game so we can buy those just as easily as a PvP player can, 'eh?

I think you get my point. PvP only characters already have so many perks for their characters it's not even funny.

Its true PvP characters do have enough versatility already. Like I already said, want the armor, go grind. Its only fair. PvE characters look good in Tombs anyways. Its not so hard to get green items which are basically perfect weapons, and the armor just looks so much cooler. You don't need to grind materials if your a good PvP player. Do what I did and sell the Sigils then go buy buy buy!

FoW armour should be unlockable, as it has true advantages in PvP. 15k is purely cosmetic. For unlocking FoW, against 15k.

Oh, and I have nothing but contempt for the PvE people who think spending time "earns" them stuff. For that reason I think PvP players should get everything they want, as I find the "PvE gets special stuff" attitude repulsive. If you can't understand why PvP needs to be on an even footing you are in the wrong game, go gank each other in PK-land.

Guess what PVP characters can't do?

GO ANYWHERE.