I started a new character recently and fully explored Pre-Searing, did every quest, saw every scenic or interesting spot I have ever read about. I have some awesome screenshots!
Right at the end of Pre, when I was fighting the Charr boss in the cave I had a flash of insight: The Charr Stole Gwen!
Here's my reasoning:
We know the Charr made multiple incursions into Ascalon. We have to destroy one party of Charr, and as the story progresses we find evidence that (at least) another party has crossed the Wall.
The second party(s) presumably entered the Catacombs through the entrance near the Baradin Estate, because it's closest to the Wall. We track this party through the Catacombs and eventually confront them in a cave beyond the Ascalon Academy.
During this confrontation, Rurik says that the Charr have found a tunnel leading from the Catacombs to the cave (an apparent fourth entrance to the Cats that we never find)
So we kill Bamboozle Shiznit (or whatever his name is) and the Searing Cinematic begins. And whats the first thing we see?
Gwen.
It's the last time we see her.
Then in Post, we find the Catacombs and the Baradin Estate closed off entirely. We know the Charr are still sending raiding parties across the wall. And we find out that the Charr have kidnaped (and burned alive) Althea the Mesmer. (Rurik's fiance and Duke Baradin's daughter)
I think Gwen was kidnapped by the Charr and sacrificed. But her soul can't find rest. Perhaps the Charr are using her soul somehow.
I suppose Gwen could be trapped in the Catacombs.
Anyhow, It's just speculation. Did I miss anything?
I think the Charr stole Gwen
Carinae
KvanCetre
I don't accept a world without Gwen casting fire storm on everything in sight.
Swampgirl Inez
Best theory I've heard yet, except we can find 'clues' of Gwen in Kryta where there have been no Charr as far as I can tell. I'm sure someone can come up with a theory on that one. 
Lord Scoopula
If Gwen was dead her ghost would be with her parents in the Underworld.
Inari
I think that if Gwen is still alive, we can expect her to grow up abit after the searing, no?
Sanso The Silent
Well, this is only one what I think. That Gwen is a 'Wandering Spirit', that she is dead and she is still wandering everywhere. Because I saw an item called 'Gwen's broken flute' close to where the pig pen was, and because Gwen loves the flute, she wouldn't just lose it. And what would the Charr do with a little girl like Gwen? But that is what I think....
Carinae
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Best theory I've heard yet, except we can find 'clues' of Gwen in Kryta where there have been no Charr as far as I can tell. I'm sure someone can come up with a theory on that one.
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Originally Posted by Lord Scoopula
If Gwen was dead her ghost would be with her parents in the Underworld.
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The Charr/Lich could have killed Gwen and are using her soul for some dark reason (think Bloodstones)
Nevin
If you search extensively through out the world of Guild Wars, Post searing..
You find many Gwen related items, a ripped girls cape, the broken floot, a tattered flower.
You find many Gwen related items, a ripped girls cape, the broken floot, a tattered flower.
Numa Pompilius
Gwen was taken by the Charr, yes. But they didn't sacrifice her, they were awed by her command of fire, and gav her to their masters, the Mursaat. The Mursaat realize she's a budding mage of incredible power, and raises her as one of their own. As the unleashed Titans destroy the Mursaat, the last few Mursaat flee through Kryta to the uncharted wastes west of the Maguuma, and Gwen, now their leader, vows revenge...
Ju_Smurph
I could not finish reading your post, though from what i did read it'sa fair assumption, your topic line just made me laugh
My Sweet Revenga
Oh man. It's gonna be like quest for glory 1 where it turns out the little girl grows up to be the big bad boss of the bad guys. Gwen... leader of the Charr. I can almost imagine that encounter now...
Me: Gwen it's me! Don't you remember?
Gwen: I do not foul pink thing *growl*. In the name of the fire gods, prepare to burn!
Me: Gwen we met in Ascalon don't you remember? You're not a charr you're human!!
Gwen: You *woof* LIE!
Me: I do not! See this is your flute. Sure it's broken now but I gave this to you remember?
Gwen: *grrrr* Stick looks familiar.... toot toot?
Me: Yes yes. How about this tapestry. You gave this to me in return.
Gwen: *sniff* *sniff* Smells like.... my favorite thing in the whole world.....
Me: And this torn cape. I gave this to you as well.
Gwen: Blankie?
Me: I gave you a ton of flowers. You loved those flowers.
Gwen: Yes..... nice flowers..... tasted good.... but also remember thorns hurt mouth and tongue.... lots of bleedi.....
Me: Uhh yeah, yeah right. We even adventured together. Remember my pet moa bird? He took a liking to you. He doesn't like anybody. He still remembers you now see?
Gwen: Awwww Dirty Pecker I DO remember you *hop* *bounce* *hugs bird*
Gwen: You are right you are friend. Gibme hugs n kisses!
Me: There there gwen everything will be alright. Let's go home.
Gwen: Psych!....... I burn you good! *firestorm*
Me and Dirty Pecker: *Runs out of firestorm*
Gwen: What the ****??? No fair! Who nerfed AOE?????
Me: Gwen it's me! Don't you remember?
Gwen: I do not foul pink thing *growl*. In the name of the fire gods, prepare to burn!
Me: Gwen we met in Ascalon don't you remember? You're not a charr you're human!!
Gwen: You *woof* LIE!
Me: I do not! See this is your flute. Sure it's broken now but I gave this to you remember?
Gwen: *grrrr* Stick looks familiar.... toot toot?
Me: Yes yes. How about this tapestry. You gave this to me in return.
Gwen: *sniff* *sniff* Smells like.... my favorite thing in the whole world.....
Me: And this torn cape. I gave this to you as well.
Gwen: Blankie?
Me: I gave you a ton of flowers. You loved those flowers.
Gwen: Yes..... nice flowers..... tasted good.... but also remember thorns hurt mouth and tongue.... lots of bleedi.....
Me: Uhh yeah, yeah right. We even adventured together. Remember my pet moa bird? He took a liking to you. He doesn't like anybody. He still remembers you now see?
Gwen: Awwww Dirty Pecker I DO remember you *hop* *bounce* *hugs bird*
Gwen: You are right you are friend. Gibme hugs n kisses!
Me: There there gwen everything will be alright. Let's go home.
Gwen: Psych!....... I burn you good! *firestorm*
Me and Dirty Pecker: *Runs out of firestorm*
Gwen: What the ****??? No fair! Who nerfed AOE?????
Mavrik
I have only found the broken flute... hmmmm...
I really like this theory though. It is a very good one.
I really like this theory though. It is a very good one.
Griff Mon
After Gwen's broken flute, I kind of lost interest. Thought it was some stray quest item that they forget to write a quest for.
This is taking on Chuck Norris like proportions.
This is taking on Chuck Norris like proportions.
Ultimate_Gaara
Gwen is far from dead, in a village known as still alive! You will see, you will all see.
One day she will come back to cause more terror, and I will be the only one she invites into her party.
However good theory, sounds possible.
One day she will come back to cause more terror, and I will be the only one she invites into her party.
However good theory, sounds possible.
Sol_Vie
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Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga
Oh man. It's gonna be like quest for glory 1 where it turns out the little girl grows up to be the big bad boss of the bad guys. Gwen... leader of the Charr. I can almost imagine that encounter now...
Me: Gwen it's me! Don't you remember? Gwen: I do not foul pink thing *growl*. In the name of the fire gods, prepare to burn! Me: Gwen we met in Ascalon don't you remember? You're not a charr you're human!! Gwen: You *woof* LIE! Me: I do not! See this is your flute. Sure it's broken now but I gave this to you remember? Gwen: *grrrr* Stick looks familiar.... toot toot? Me: Yes yes. How about this tapestry. You gave this to me in return. Gwen: *sniff* *sniff* Smells like.... my favorite thing in the whole world..... Me: And this torn cape. I gave this to you as well. Gwen: Blankie? Me: I gave you a ton of flowers. You loved those flowers. Gwen: Yes..... nice flowers..... tasted good.... but also remember thorns hurt mouth and tongue.... lots of bleedi..... Me: Uhh yeah, yeah right. We even adventured together. Remember my pet moa bird? He took a liking to you. He doesn't like anybody. He still remembers you now see? Gwen: Awwww Dirty Pecker I DO remember you *hop* *bounce* *hugs bird* Gwen: You are right you are friend. Gibme hugs n kisses! Me: There there gwen everything will be alright. Let's go home. Gwen: Psych!....... I burn you good! *firestorm* Me and Dirty Pecker: *Runs out of firestorm* Gwen: What the ****??? No fair! Who nerfed AOE????? |
On the topic of Gwen, I think she's still alive and has some purpose to serve in the game later on. I've had this theory that Gwen didn't die and in fact fled (somehow) to the area around LA and the like. Perhaps she traveled to Fisherman's Haven (or got run there by some Wammo) and took a boat... to Cantha. There, she vowed to learn the dark secrets of the assassin. Or something along those lines. I first thought of this when I read the story of the assassin in the first info release on Chapter 2.
I think she's still kickin' around and I can't wait to see her again. (She just better not take back the flute, cape, and tapestry- what else would I use to split up my inventory?)
Dracus Steelbow
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Originally Posted by Nevin
If you search extensively through out the world of Guild Wars, Post searing..
You find many Gwen related items, a ripped girls cape, the broken floot, a tattered flower. |
Sol_Vie
I haven't seen a tattered flower... I think you get the cape outside Fisherman's Haven. If not there, then outside Gates of Kryta.
EternalTempest
Tattered Cape is Old Ascalon Region.
Broken Flute (not floot) is north of the Fisherman village (above Santum Cay) and it sometimes shows up.
(I may of got the location of the Tattered Cape / and Flute flipped)
I've not seen or heard of the flowers existence. I can provide screen shots of the ripped cape and the broken flute.
Could someone provide screen shot of the flower and the location. Reason being there is are so many myths that people believe about Gwen it taken a life of it's own.
Broken Flute (not floot) is north of the Fisherman village (above Santum Cay) and it sometimes shows up.
(I may of got the location of the Tattered Cape / and Flute flipped)
I've not seen or heard of the flowers existence. I can provide screen shots of the ripped cape and the broken flute.
Could someone provide screen shot of the flower and the location. Reason being there is are so many myths that people believe about Gwen it taken a life of it's own.
Sol_Vie
Yeah you got the two mixed up. I know you get the flute in Old Ascalon outside of Sardelac Sanitarium.
Guardian of the Light
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Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga
Oh man. It's gonna be like quest for glory 1 where it turns out the little girl grows up to be the big bad boss of the bad guys. Gwen... leader of the Charr. I can almost imagine that encounter now...
Me: Gwen it's me! Don't you remember? Gwen: I do not foul pink thing *growl*. In the name of the fire gods, prepare to burn! Me: Gwen we met in Ascalon don't you remember? You're not a charr you're human!! Gwen: You *woof* LIE! Me: I do not! See this is your flute. Sure it's broken now but I gave this to you remember? Gwen: *grrrr* Stick looks familiar.... toot toot? Me: Yes yes. How about this tapestry. You gave this to me in return. Gwen: *sniff* *sniff* Smells like.... my favorite thing in the whole world..... Me: And this torn cape. I gave this to you as well. Gwen: Blankie? Me: I gave you a ton of flowers. You loved those flowers. Gwen: Yes..... nice flowers..... tasted good.... but also remember thorns hurt mouth and tongue.... lots of bleedi..... Me: Uhh yeah, yeah right. We even adventured together. Remember my pet moa bird? He took a liking to you. He doesn't like anybody. He still remembers you now see? Gwen: Awwww Dirty Pecker I DO remember you *hop* *bounce* *hugs bird* Gwen: You are right you are friend. Gibme hugs n kisses! Me: There there gwen everything will be alright. Let's go home. Gwen: Psych!....... I burn you good! *firestorm* Me and Dirty Pecker: *Runs out of firestorm* Gwen: What the ****??? No fair! Who nerfed AOE????? |
Mavrik
Yeah the flute is outside Sardelac, thats where I have found it many times.
I do not believe Gwen made it very far though. I mean look what we had to get through to make it from ascalon to kryta? I do not believe she could have gotten that far on her own. Imagine all the chaos that happened, changing the map from pre searing to post. Its hard to believe anything could have survived that let alone travel through it. Something or someone took her if it is to be believed she is alive and made it through to Kryta.
Poor Althea was burned... maybe Gwen was responsible for that? lol who knows. Gwen did love that woman and always called her beautiful. Maybe that was Rurik's alterior motive to flee ascalon... KILL THE DAMNED GWEN!!!!
ok so that last bit is a lot of BS
but still... If Gwen left ascalon... someone had to have taken her.
I do not believe Gwen made it very far though. I mean look what we had to get through to make it from ascalon to kryta? I do not believe she could have gotten that far on her own. Imagine all the chaos that happened, changing the map from pre searing to post. Its hard to believe anything could have survived that let alone travel through it. Something or someone took her if it is to be believed she is alive and made it through to Kryta.
Poor Althea was burned... maybe Gwen was responsible for that? lol who knows. Gwen did love that woman and always called her beautiful. Maybe that was Rurik's alterior motive to flee ascalon... KILL THE DAMNED GWEN!!!!
ok so that last bit is a lot of BS
Barinthus
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Originally Posted by Swampgirl Inez
Best theory I've heard yet, except we can find 'clues' of Gwen in Kryta where there have been no Charr as far as I can tell. I'm sure someone can come up with a theory on that one.
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EternalTempest - provide those screenies, please! I haven't seen that cape.
My Sweet Revenga
I've found all of these items so far. Unless anet has changed their locations since I last looked for them:
1) Flowers - Presear - Spawn randomly as you adventure. Give them to Gwen
2) Cape - Presear - Buy from merchant - Give to Gwen
3) Broken Flute 1 - Presear - Get quest from Gwen just outside of Ascalon, kill a bunch of low level skales and pick it up off the ground - Give it back to Gwen
4) Flute - Presear - Buy from merchant - Give to gwen to replace broken flute, if she's adventuring with you, she'll play it and heal you a bit.
5) Tapestry Shred - Presear - Give gwen enough flowers and/or the cape and/or the flute and she'll eventually give you the tapestry.... I myself have 4 in storage
6) Broken Flute 2 - Postsear - Can be found randomly spawned somewhere outside of Sardalic Sanctum where the small village used to be.
7) Tattered Cape - Postsear - Found randomly spawned on the beach outside of Fishermans
8) Gwen's Leg - Postsear - Drops randomly when you defeat the first wave of monsters during a mission in El Polo Diablo's realm.
That's all I remember off the top of my head. I miss anything else?
1) Flowers - Presear - Spawn randomly as you adventure. Give them to Gwen
2) Cape - Presear - Buy from merchant - Give to Gwen
3) Broken Flute 1 - Presear - Get quest from Gwen just outside of Ascalon, kill a bunch of low level skales and pick it up off the ground - Give it back to Gwen
4) Flute - Presear - Buy from merchant - Give to gwen to replace broken flute, if she's adventuring with you, she'll play it and heal you a bit.
5) Tapestry Shred - Presear - Give gwen enough flowers and/or the cape and/or the flute and she'll eventually give you the tapestry.... I myself have 4 in storage
6) Broken Flute 2 - Postsear - Can be found randomly spawned somewhere outside of Sardalic Sanctum where the small village used to be.
7) Tattered Cape - Postsear - Found randomly spawned on the beach outside of Fishermans
8) Gwen's Leg - Postsear - Drops randomly when you defeat the first wave of monsters during a mission in El Polo Diablo's realm.
That's all I remember off the top of my head. I miss anything else?
Mavrik
Gwen's leg?
Keyote
What happened to gwen was nothing. You can make anything up and it's just as true as every other theory when no story for her exists.
zoozoc
lol i think hes joking.
Shazam
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What happened to gwen was nothing. You can make anything up and it's just as true as every other theory when no story for her exists.
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Keyote
I think you're right, they ran out of time. They'll probably do something with her because people are always talking about it. The only reason anyone cares what happened to her is because people keep bringing it up like it's interesting, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me 
Knido
i hope that the catacombs opens up again and akin to SF, there are lv 20+ charr and we must stage a rescue gwen o.o and then she goes to cantha w/ us but the charr follow us to reclaim gwen for a later disclosed reason
ghostlyranger
during the faction pvp event, when i try to make a new female assasin character. i saw there is some face and hairstyle that look like gwen.
mayb she is an assasin in chapter 2?
mayb she is an assasin in chapter 2?
Ultimate_Gaara
She uses firestorm, she is clearly an E/Mo.
Unkemptwolf
No, you've missed it all. When you saw Gwen turn around right as the searing was happening, it wasnt just the sky she was looking at, it was... Glint! Yes, Glint swooped in and rescued Gwen, using her magic to protect them just as the catraclysm was happening. So Gwen was rescued by Glint, the question is, for what purpose? Discuss.
Turbo Wombat
Food?
Kool Pajamas
I dont think they will reveal Gwen anytime soon. I think Anet likes everyone talking about Gwen. If we find her, its all over. No more obsessing about her. Less interest in the game.
Ristaron
This thread just keeps getting funnier and funnier...
E/mo gwen
Glint's food
Gwen the Charr Queen...
What's next? Gwen the Matron assassin?
E/mo gwen
Glint's food
Gwen the Charr Queen...
What's next? Gwen the Matron assassin?
Sol_Vie
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This thread just keeps getting funnier and funnier...
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Ristaron
Oh, sorry.
Gwen's leg was suggested too... rather morbid but humorous...
Gwen's leg was suggested too... rather morbid but humorous...
Makkert
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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
Anyhow, It's just speculation. Did I miss anything?
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In his wish to meet up with Altea again, he developed tendencies that led to many outrageous charges of the enemy.
burai
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Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga
Oh man. It's gonna be like quest for glory 1 where it turns out the little girl grows up to be the big bad boss of the bad guys. Gwen... leader of the Charr. I can almost imagine that encounter now...
Me: Gwen it's me! Don't you remember? Gwen: I do not foul pink thing *growl*. In the name of the fire gods, prepare to burn! Me: Gwen we met in Ascalon don't you remember? You're not a charr you're human!! Gwen: You *woof* LIE! Me: I do not! See this is your flute. Sure it's broken now but I gave this to you remember? Gwen: *grrrr* Stick looks familiar.... toot toot? Me: Yes yes. How about this tapestry. You gave this to me in return. Gwen: *sniff* *sniff* Smells like.... my favorite thing in the whole world..... Me: And this torn cape. I gave this to you as well. Gwen: Blankie? Me: I gave you a ton of flowers. You loved those flowers. Gwen: Yes..... nice flowers..... tasted good.... but also remember thorns hurt mouth and tongue.... lots of bleedi..... Me: Uhh yeah, yeah right. We even adventured together. Remember my pet moa bird? He took a liking to you. He doesn't like anybody. He still remembers you now see? Gwen: Awwww Dirty Pecker I DO remember you *hop* *bounce* *hugs bird* Gwen: You are right you are friend. Gibme hugs n kisses! Me: There there gwen everything will be alright. Let's go home. Gwen: Psych!....... I burn you good! *firestorm* Me and Dirty Pecker: *Runs out of firestorm* Gwen: What the ****??? No fair! Who nerfed AOE????? |
myword
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Originally Posted by Mavrik
Gwen's leg?
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