Japanese Players - first impressions

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

Well I've seen quite a lot of Japanese players in the arenas lately. A few days ago I took a few of them on in Random Arenas. Initial reaction - unskilled: I was able to walk my mesmer right up to their monk and kill him while 2 japanese rangers shot away at me. I received no interrupts and the damage I received was low enough for me to survive on self heal.
Today however was a different story. Once again in random arenas I noticed their monk was luring and doing a great job healing, they had a Ranger/Mes with IW using Tiger's Fury, they had knock down hammer wars and the works. Overall my impression is that they learn extremely fast.

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Near Your House

I Used To Own [ IUTO ]

Quote:
Originally Posted by d3kst3r
Well I've seen quite a lot of Japanese players in the arenas lately. A few days ago I took a few of them on in Random Arenas. Initial reaction - unskilled: I was able to walk my mesmer right up to their monk and kill him while 2 japanese rangers shot away at me. I received no interrupts and the damage I received was low enough for me to survive on self heal.
Today however was a different story. Once again in random arenas I noticed their monk was luring and doing a great job healing, they had a Ranger/Mes with IW using Tiger's Fury, they had knock down hammer wars and the works. Overall my impression is that they learn extremely fast.
Probably why they have the Latest Tech

Japanese Pug Groups are really Nice.. @ HA...
i saw a r3-6+ Japanese Pug Group.... Wow!

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

How the heck would the Japanese get to rank 6? They've only had the game for a very short while.

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Near Your House

I Used To Own [ IUTO ]

Quote:
Originally Posted by d3kst3r
How the heck would the Japanese get to rank 6? They've only had the game for a very short while.
This one Wonders as you do.

MrScaRy

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

eh... how do you know they are Japanese in the first place? and also, one group of "Japanese" do not represent the whole "Japanese" community either

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Presumably they can order the game from somewhere they understand the language of and play?

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrScaRy
eh... how do you know they are Japanese in the first place? and also, one group of "Japanese" do not represent the whole "Japanese" community either
Well four guys with Kanji characters in their name don't coincidentally mix up in the same team in a Random Arena. Since I've studied asian forms of writing myself I can tell the difference between Japanese, Mandarin(Chinese) and Korean.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Both JP and CH(TW) had been in alpha/beta test of their version since dec.

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

I haven't yet lost to a Japanese group,but my team's victories become less substantial every day. They're not nearly there yet,but well on their way..

phreek

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Kanji is a chinese character system, but used in japanese language ( I myself study Japanese at University)

Japanese people names are written in Katakana as are english names or words in japanese.

Katakana and Hiragana are strictly japanese, so its possible they were chinese then no?

Esuna

Esuna

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Join Date: Jul 2005

NYC

Squee Squeeeeeeeeeeeeee [yay]

Mo/

I don't understand the point of this thread. If a community is new to the game, then of course they wouldn't be as experienced as those who have been exposed to it for nearly a year. At least that would seem logical to me... why does it become so intriguing? And as MrScaRy said, it doesn't represent the entire "Japanese" community either.

DevilStick

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esuna
I don't understand the point of this thread. If a community is new to the game, then of course they wouldn't be as experienced as those who have been exposed to it for nearly a year. At least that would seem logical to me... why does it become so intriguing? And as MrScaRy said, it doesn't represent the entire "Japanese" community either.
Well, it beats another "give monks a break" or "mending sux0rz" thread.

antialias02

antialias02

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Eastern Iowa

Forsaken Wanderers [FW]

Me/E

Japan is indeed learning fast. I'd wager that if we thought korea was tough, we are in for a double treat once Japan comes into its own.

myword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Korea

yes, GW has only been 'officially' released in Japan recently, but this doesn't mean that they haven't been able to obtain copies of GW all this time

fiery

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Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

well japanese kanji is from chinese kanji and korean is similar to the two, im in japanese 4 right now i should know kanji. if they are rank 6 japanese, doesnt mean they are living in japan playing the game, they can be anyway playing with the japanese version, say someone living in america asking for a shipping of a copy of GW in japanese version to give as a gift to his japanese friend living in america.same kanji diffrent region. hence he is in the american districts.

ehh people scared of korean, have you noticed america keeps favor more than europe and korea put together. a build is a build it only counts on the experinced player who can play the build better.

LordDeArnise

LordDeArnise

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Join Date: Jan 2006

California, USA

The Elite Knights of Tarnia [PwnD]

Soon it'll be Asia v. Europe and their Commonwealths v. The Americas...and Asia and Europe will dominate HoH.

Deathqueen

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Looks to me like EUROPE has been dominating lately. I haven't been able to enter UW/FOW at my times to play in days now. waaaaahhhh (smile)

ShadowVoid

ShadowVoid

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Florida

Forsaken Wanderers

Mo/W

For some reason I think that the Japanes players overall are still catching up to the more experienced countrys in terms of game wise, but when I came upon my first Japan represented team they put up a good fight but still lost.

I think that foreign people have a lot more times and the brain capacity to devote to games and adapt very quickly to differant playing styles.

but thats just my experiences

tafy69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

N/Me

Japan are just new atm and get rolled in tombs or GvG, they will learn eventually but it will take some time for them since they need to be UAS to be truly competative.

But they will learn faster than we did, Observer mode will see to that, they will copy/modify current builds untill they use their own builds when they unlock enough things.

LordDeArnise

LordDeArnise

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Join Date: Jan 2006

California, USA

The Elite Knights of Tarnia [PwnD]

Europe has been dominating HoH lately. If it's not for the players actually playing from the European countries, and they do have some dominating guilds, then it's more likely the Aussies and Kiwis.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowVoid
I think that foreign people have a lot more times and the brain capacity to devote to games and adapt very quickly to differant playing styles.

but thats just my experiences
Foreign people have more brain capacity? Hehehe

snikerz

snikerz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rt/A

the amazing thing is there english is flawless, they say stuff like "omg" when you spike them, and they actially greet you in proper english, and ask how you are etc, koreans never do that lol.

zoozoc

zoozoc

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Join Date: May 2005

Beaverton/OR

Disciples of Birkler [BIR]

im guessing that the japanese ppl who are rank 3-6 played before it was officially released in japan, they could of easily got an imported version from somewhere else.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

Know what I really, really, REALLY wish?

I know it's odd, but I wish Anet would've named the different regions by fictional names. Like; US=Ascalon, EU=Kryta, Asia=Cantha, or something of that sort. The actual names don't matter, as long as they're fictional.

I think it would've gone a long way towards curtailing the shockingly "patriotic" attitudes that are so prevalent in this game. By "patriotic", of course, I mean, "Lame Europeans!", "Jackassed Koreans!", "Bloody arrogant Americans!"

I think there's plenty of rampant nationalism in my real life these days. I don't really need it in my video games, too.

Why am I taking the time to share this? I have no idea. :P

sun is in us

sun is in us

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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Cantha for the Canthonians!

Grimm

Grimm

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Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhedd
I think it would've gone a long way towards curtailing the shockingly "patriotic" attitudes that are so prevalent in this game. By "patriotic", of course, I mean, "Lame Europeans!", "Jackassed Koreans!", "Bloody arrogant Americans!"
Patriotism is not a bad thing. You can be patriotic without insulting people from other countries.

Thock

Thock

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Achieving Deficiency [aD]

Well in my previous experience with how japenese game in Magic The Gathering, which has a lot of similarities with GW, they always came up with builds that looked like complete crap on paper but actually kicked ass.

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

i will use this thread to say one of my normal comments for this situation

Be Afraid !!!

Japan , Taiwan , HongKong and Macau are new in town

Destruction Exile

Destruction Exile

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Join Date: Feb 2006

VA

Heavens Death Knights

W/E

if they come.....i wish they have their own channel because in a game i used to play called IGUNZ, so much japan players came and started speaking japeneses...

It would be pretty sad if the japenese flooded the game with japanese trading spam.

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

I question about HoH districts from other regions, are they as restrictive and stuck up about rank as the American Districts?

The reason I ask is because if this is not the case, it explains why the other countries are beginning to and will continue to dominate HoH. American HoHers tend to be arrogent build fanatics who are hell-bent on having only R3or better players, of certain types only. This limits the number of potentially good players in their ranks, and the developement of a new build by accidental PUG victories. It's a real shame, American practices are our biggest threat. I'm an American saying this, just fyi. I stopped trying to get into HoH teams a while ago, my rank just isn't high enough, and IWAYing is not the answer, no offense to IWAYers.

Translation of the above, if American players make a build, someone can copy it, if someone copies it and improves upon it while the Americans hold to only the original build, the American build loses.

neoteo

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Destruction Exile
if they come.....i wish they have their own channel because in a game i used to play called IGUNZ, so much japan players came and started speaking japeneses...

It would be pretty sad if the japenese flooded the game with japanese trading spam.
im sure they have their districs , what im not sure is if they play for korean territory , but almost sure they do. just like in european territory they have diferent districs for diferent languages , i presume korean territory now have districs for Taiwan , japan , korea

The Son Of Morgoth

The Son Of Morgoth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Maryland

The Servants Of Morgoth

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by d3kst3r
Well I've seen quite a lot of Japanese players in the arenas lately. A few days ago I took a few of them on in Random Arenas. Initial reaction - unskilled: I was able to walk my mesmer right up to their monk and kill him while 2 japanese rangers shot away at me. I received no interrupts and the damage I received was low enough for me to survive on self heal.
Today however was a different story. Once again in random arenas I noticed their monk was luring and doing a great job healing, they had a Ranger/Mes with IW using Tiger's Fury, they had knock down hammer wars and the works. Overall my impression is that they learn extremely fast.
Duh they learn fast.....all asians do lol
<---------im indian btw we count as asians lol

M C H A M M E R

M C H A M M E R

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Drunken Rangers [DR], Sig of Ultimate Doom [SiG]

W/

I only IWAY to try to get R3...It doesn't seem possible any other way...All builds besides IWAY are guild, or R3\R6+. So...yeah.
*EDIT* IWAY has become "Group"
*QUOTE*
"NEED ORDER AND TAINT FOR R6+ GROUP SELF INVITE!!!"
i mean, comon...

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

I spy an Asian invasion. :O

It's not surprising, considering Japan is known for technology in this "day and age."

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Destruction Exile
if they come.....i wish they have their own channel because in a game i used to play called IGUNZ, so much japan players came and started speaking japeneses...

It would be pretty sad if the japenese flooded the game with japanese trading spam.
Thats why Anet implemented an "english only" in local chat in american servers.

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

I think the Japanese players will adapt to this game very quickly since Japanese gamers have HEAPS of experience with the whole skills combo/countering etc. thing from games like Final Fantasy and Magic the Gathering or even Pokemon. They can get very good at stacking skills etc. and using them to good effect.

The Son Of Morgoth

The Son Of Morgoth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Maryland

The Servants Of Morgoth

N/

Asians fTW!

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Meh, I'm not sure if the quick learning gene is consistent. A fought a japanese ranger using healing breeze instead of troll ungeunt.

neoteo

neoteo

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
Meh, I'm not sure if the quick learning gene is consistent. A fought a japanese ranger using healing breeze instead of troll ungeunt.
so ? i go to CA with my ele and beat warriors everyday ...

on topic , the game launched a few days ago , give it time ...

Skuld

Skuld

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathqueen
Looks to me like EUROPE has been dominating lately. I haven't been able to enter UW/FOW at my times to play in days now. waaaaahhhh (smile)
I can get in straight from school now