...and Elwyth's.
EDIT: Special props to CoolGuy for hooking me up with the deadbow.
What bows are you using?
lord_shar
My 3-day old ranger's current bows:
...and Elwyth's.
EDIT: Special props to CoolGuy for hooking me up with the deadbow.
...and Elwyth's.
EDIT: Special props to CoolGuy for hooking me up with the deadbow.
Mahanaxar
Uncustomized weapons are meh 
I have the whole green collection (all customized), but i use drago's flat, graygore's zealous, a collectors' recurve with +5 ar grip and poisoners string and the fourth slot is variable (elswyths recurve for spikers team, staff whem I'm trapping, dragos vampiric to farm ice imps)
I have the whole green collection (all customized), but i use drago's flat, graygore's zealous, a collectors' recurve with +5 ar grip and poisoners string and the fourth slot is variable (elswyths recurve for spikers team, staff whem I'm trapping, dragos vampiric to farm ice imps)
Haggard
nobody ever uses horn bows ~ yes theyre fugly, and fire like bazookas, but they also hit like bazookas as they have 10% armour penetration always
Valerius
i only ever use my Shadow Bow if i'm doing Barrage {E}... since refire rate doesn't matter cause' i'm only spamming a 1 sec recharge skill
romeo_longsword
Quote:
Originally Posted by kc99
As i said in my earlier post, This is a much debated topic right now but i don't really care if its the worst or not.
I mean what are the alternatives? Vampiric? Zealous? Elemental? They all have pro's and con's, And that ensigns comments about PVE players were well wide of the mark.
If someone thinks that sundering is "T3H UB3R MOD" then let them, Why should we be bothered?
Until some boffin gets his calculator out and tries to blind us all with science about how % of that does'nt does'nt compare with % of this.
Well ah'll stick with me worst mod for the time being. I pretty much agree with the direction on questioning this, if its not sundering, what would you rather take?
If you go got other fancy stuff, lighting, fire, I hear from a Nerco player that, it will cancel out some of the advantages that a spell caster, or a buffer could provide to you.
The only other two for me are, posion and vamp strings.
Both of which are not really considered as an all round suited bow string, even if I pushed to support a posion string, compare with the possibile extra damage in one shot with the sundering, I would rather take the sundering instead.
So that really leaves me the chioce between the sundering and vamp, and vamp would not be the main bow I am carrying because of the health draining effect.
I mean what are the alternatives? Vampiric? Zealous? Elemental? They all have pro's and con's, And that ensigns comments about PVE players were well wide of the mark.
If someone thinks that sundering is "T3H UB3R MOD" then let them, Why should we be bothered?
Until some boffin gets his calculator out and tries to blind us all with science about how % of that does'nt does'nt compare with % of this.
Well ah'll stick with me worst mod for the time being. I pretty much agree with the direction on questioning this, if its not sundering, what would you rather take?
If you go got other fancy stuff, lighting, fire, I hear from a Nerco player that, it will cancel out some of the advantages that a spell caster, or a buffer could provide to you.
The only other two for me are, posion and vamp strings.
Both of which are not really considered as an all round suited bow string, even if I pushed to support a posion string, compare with the possibile extra damage in one shot with the sundering, I would rather take the sundering instead.
So that really leaves me the chioce between the sundering and vamp, and vamp would not be the main bow I am carrying because of the health draining effect.
Stranger The Ranger
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Originally Posted by Haggard
nobody ever uses horn bows ~ yes theyre fugly, and fire like bazookas, but they also hit like bazookas as they have 10% armour penetration always
Mursaat Hornbows look great ^^
romeo_longsword
I think thats a great screenshot, but for some reason, I love the wooden feel of a bow.
Best looking skin for me its the Elyth's whatsherface Bows.
Best looking skin for me its the Elyth's whatsherface Bows.
Nikki Moonlight
as a note..my 4th weapon..which is brand new is dragos flatbow
Valerius
Quote:
If you go got other fancy stuff, lighting, fire, I hear from a Nerco player that, it will cancel out some of the advantages that a spell caster, or a buffer could provide to you. umm... i'd rather take any other bow string then the Sundering string...
are u talking about an Orders Necro? well of course you can't use an Ele string if you have one in ur group... as orders only affects physical dmg...
romeo_longsword
You are indeed correct about the matter.
What would be your ideal chioce and why?
What would be your ideal chioce and why?
xiv
i use the following
elswyth's recurve
elswyth's long bow (best for poisoning longrange)
stinger (great for short poison range)
the all mighty CANDY CANDYCANE BOW nutin beats that lol
and im gunna buy another dragos flatbow and maybe the vampiric one to (i accidently deleted meh dragos rerolling my pvp char hehehehe. back then it was 45k now there what 30k? itll be my 5th dragos lol
elswyth's recurve
elswyth's long bow (best for poisoning longrange)
stinger (great for short poison range)
the all mighty CANDY CANDYCANE BOW nutin beats that lol
and im gunna buy another dragos flatbow and maybe the vampiric one to (i accidently deleted meh dragos rerolling my pvp char hehehehe. back then it was 45k now there what 30k? itll be my 5th dragos lol
xiv
i use the following
elswyth's recurve
elswyth's long bow (best for poisoning longrange)
stinger (great for short poison range)
the all mighty CANDY CANDYCANE BOW nutin beats that lol
and im gunna buy another dragos flatbow and maybe the vampiric one to (i accidently deleted meh dragos rerolling my pvp char hehehehe. back then it was 45k now there what 30k? itll be my 5th dragos lol
elswyth's recurve
elswyth's long bow (best for poisoning longrange)
stinger (great for short poison range)
the all mighty CANDY CANDYCANE BOW nutin beats that lol
and im gunna buy another dragos flatbow and maybe the vampiric one to (i accidently deleted meh dragos rerolling my pvp char hehehehe. back then it was 45k now there what 30k? itll be my 5th dragos lol
Valerius
my main string is a vamp... i usually always use either TF or Frenzy depending on my build... i have a Zealous on my Horn for Barrage... 4 Ascalon Bows each having a different Ele string on it (Fiery, Icy, Shocking, Ebon) for when i attack physically stacked players... Sundering really has no use imo
Francis Demeules
4 green bows: Stinger, Gargash, Thornbeard and Boulderbeard
elektra_lucia
Sundering Storm bow of fortitude.
15% @ enchant.
req 8
max damage, +30 health.
Has something else I think, forgot now^^
15% @ enchant.
req 8
max damage, +30 health.
Has something else I think, forgot now^^
4runner
1.sundering eternal bow of fortitude
req9
+15 always
-5 energy
10/10
+30 fortitude
2.sundering strom bow of Fortitude
req10
+15^50
10/10
+30 fortitude
3.drago flat bow
4.
req9
+15 always
-5 energy
10/10
+30 fortitude
2.sundering strom bow of Fortitude
req10
+15^50
10/10
+30 fortitude
3.drago flat bow
4.
moriz
long range: poisonous longbow of defense (14-26, perfect defense grip, FEATHERED SKIN!!)
short range: vampiric half-moon bow of marksmanship (14-26, 4-1 vamp, marksmanship grip)
interrupter: fiery recurve bow of somethingoranother (15-28. can't remember the rest)
combined value: exactly 2501 gold
short range: vampiric half-moon bow of marksmanship (14-26, 4-1 vamp, marksmanship grip)
interrupter: fiery recurve bow of somethingoranother (15-28. can't remember the rest)
combined value: exactly 2501 gold
XvArchonvX
I just won an auction on a +15%^50 storm bow that I'm going to add a +30 grip to. I'm not sure if I'm going to make it sundering or vampiric though...
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by XvArchonvX
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Originally Posted by Nessaja
it's a constant 1% armor penetration. 10% of 10=100% of 1
Not sure how good or bad that is, or what that translates too, but seeing how 40 armor is an increase of 100%->200% damage against a wariror with 96 AL (armor+shield) it would be 0.96 armor pentrated it's a ~2% increase in damage. with a 22 max damage.. 0.22 damage extra won't even give a full point extra (on average). When it does trigger it will do about 2.2 damage extra, but that's only against warriors. This was figured for a sword, but asuming it's a max short bow: Max damage of 28 and refire rate of 2 seconds = .28 extra damage every attack, so .14 dps more. Looking at in from a spike: 2.8 extra damage on triggering. Vampiric is much better: +5 damage every 2 seconds...or 2.5 extra dps. Assuming perfect conditions, and that everything lands of course.
Yakumo
1. Vampiric short bow
2. Zealous half moon 3. Sundering composite 4. Poisoner's longbow The bows either have a Defense or a Shelter bow grip. I look forward to the day when I get a nice bow from Tombs or SF.
romeo_longsword
As I am learning and playing, I now have the following collection:
1: Sundering Ascalon (got from collector then added string and costumed). 2: Elswyth's Recurve. 3: Elswyth's Longbow (which i dont really use, the reason being for its slow flight time, and I find it rare that I be using FW and posion at the same time) 4: Deago's Flat Bow (which I rarely use also, expect in a barrage group where FW is oftern porvided, in which you can take full advantage of the rate of fire and long range.)
Skuld
got a drago's vampire bow dropped, is it worth using that over elswyth's recurve?
romeo_longsword
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
got a drago's vampire bow dropped, is it worth using that over elswyth's recurve?
For me, thats a question between the composite bow(same status) vs the flat bow.
The flat bow is beautiful for its rate of fireing at 2.0, which is same as the short bow, and, the range is the longest which is 85. However, the flight time is the longest (slowest) there is possibile, from my experience, even when the target is moving a little, it will usually miss at a long range. To over come this, many use FW to make the arrow travel faster. The composite bow however, has only the range of 70, which is the second longest range, and the firing rate is 2.4, wich is the second fastest, but however, the flight time is .5, which is the fastest, making your chance to miss your target greatly reduced. For me, I dont always bring FW or RtW with me, making more certain that my shot will hit, in exchange of 15 range, and .4 firing rate, making it a very fliexable bow. So as you read the above posts I have made, my main two bows are composite or of the same status for this reason. OF course this could change as I become more advance with my play style and knowlege.
XvArchonvX
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnipiousMax
There was a thread in the warrior forum about sundering mods....they don't really add much damage, compared to Vampiric
Yea, I've read up on sundering mods a lot and I'm aware of their inferiority in damage, but the health degen on a vamp mod can really be a pain, especially when you get caught in lag while wielding one. I did end up using a Vamp string after all and use the bow in ToPK barrage/pet farming. Now I'm just shopping for a good horn bow to use in a GvG spike build...
SnipiousMax
Quote:
Originally Posted by romeo_longsword
4: Deago's Flat Bow (which I rarely use also, expect in a barrage group where FW is oftern porvided, in which you can take full advantage of the rate of fire and long range.)
I think it was also pointed out on another thread that using Flat/Short bows with barrage actually slow down your attack rate, because you have to break animation in order to use barrage again. Horn bows (with Armor Pen) are actually looking better for a barrage group, because the refire rate doesn't hurt you when you're spamming Barrage.
tuperwho
1) vamp. (5/1) ascalon bow (composite with 15^50) of def. (+5)
2) poisoner's feathered longbow (12^50) of fortitude (25, I think.... could be way off, here, though)
kc99
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnipiousMax
I think it was also pointed out on another thread that using Flat/Short bows with barrage actually slow down your attack rate, because you have to break animation in order to use barrage again. Horn bows (with Armor Pen) are actually looking better for a barrage group, because the refire rate doesn't hurt you when you're spamming Barrage.
I think we're reading too much into this and probably taking it a little too seriously now
 Lets all relax and have some fun I use drago's flatbow coz it looks cool- So There! BTW the above poster is probably right but lets forget that for the moment
moriz
i really like my bows. yes, i know the first two aren't maxed. but think of it this way: i bought 3 bows that i can use for the entire game, for half the price of 1 green bow.
all hail guru auction! anyways, i personally tends to avoid flatbows in general. the faster attack speed is not really noticeable and not really needed. i generally use a shortbow/halfmoon bow, a longbow, and a recurve bow. with these three, i'm set for just about every situation.
romeo_longsword
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnipiousMax
I think it was also pointed out on another thread that using Flat/Short bows with barrage actually slow down your attack rate, because you have to break animation in order to use barrage again. Horn bows (with Armor Pen) are actually looking better for a barrage group, because the refire rate doesn't hurt you when you're spamming Barrage.
Yes, you are correct.
However, my reason in supporting the deago to be the barrage bow is selfishly subjective, it is because a lot of my play style. I allow my pet to die which become the oppoturnity for the nerco to create fiends, upon the pet's death, there is a cool down time where I could not use skills such as the barrage. I highly dislike this period of time as I feel rather useless, so a faster fire rate provides some satifaction for my wait, even thou it might not be a long time of differience to some, but knowing that I am shooting the fastest rate I can support the reason above. So thats why I picked the flat bow for my barrage group. Please mind the spellings and things. F1R3 DR4G0N
i'm using the 15>50 collector shortbow from the desert, modified with shocking string and def upgrade. I don't see the point in getting a green bow personally, i think this collector bow customised does huge dmg. Not having a unique-skinned and named weapon dosent bother me, all i care is that it functions well.
wiz12268
Drago's FlatBow
Sundering Feathered LongBow of Defense (dyed) (10/10 and 5) 15 always -5 energy Vampiric Shortbow of Defense (5/1 and 5) 15 alway -5 energy Random ele bows depending on situation and skill set. I admit I use Drago's way too much, but I like the flight on it . But after that I have the Vamp going.
Thannis
Dragos Flat bow... I mean look at it its bigger then my ranger. Reminds me of a Handcannon more then a bow. With RTW and customized its does nice damage for my lvl 12 ranger =P
Chaos Eryx
1. Drago's FlatBow
2. Fiery Storm Bow of Fortitude 15>10 +29HP (Conjure Build) 3. Elswyth's Recurve (Spike Team PvP) 4. Poisner's Composite Bow of Fortitude 15>50 +29HP 5. Thornbeards Horn Bow (Conjure Interupt) 6. Sundering Ascalon Bow of Fortitude 15>50 9/10AP +29HP (Collectors Bow) 7. +5 energy fire wand/ +21 energy prot icon (Trapping) Drago's for pulling Storm Bow for barrage Elswyth's for Spike Damage Composite for Poison/Interupt/CripShot Thornbeards for Conjure/Interupt Ascalon Bow for taking up space in my inventory Wand/Icon for Trapping XSniper
1. Fiery Shadow Bow of Fortitude
2. Icy Horn Bow of Fortitude 3. Shocking Flatbow of Fortitude 4. Candy Cane bow for fun
Bag-o-Weed
My ranger uses sundering horn bow of marksmanship, 10% armor pent. (13%) and 1 to marksmaship (16%) and it is customized
SnipiousMax
I accidently sold my pre-sear bow the other day...I was very upset. I was keeping it as a good luck charm....
VGJustice
Gladius.
Kidding. I've got a Composit, a Longbow, and a CCBow. Mardock T
Vampiric Recurve | 15^50% life steal 4 < 1
Short Bow (dont remember full name  ) | 15% (enchanted) 10\10Zealous Half moon | 10% (enchanted) energy +1 < -1 and thats it....im saving for Drago's vamp and flat...im poor T_T Killa Shot
i use max FieryShadow bow of defence dmg +12 while in stance armour +5
XxForgexX
showing off FTW
 for PvP: for PvE: Ascalon Bows are really Short Bows, and i'm still looking for a req.8 +15%/armor-10 Flatbow to replace Drago's |
