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Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

12 Feb 2006 at 11:58 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeo_longsword

As I continue to play my ranger, and taking CONSTRUCTIVE advice from different directions of the community ---
Which is the Ranger Barrage/Pet Team work at the UW,

You should've just specified from the start you wanted a farming build for your ranger, and that the groups you couldn't get in to were the standard 5-man farming teams.

Deathqueen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

12 Feb 2006 at 13:14 - 42

LoL this is funny I had just said last night "You know why there are so many rangers in random PVP areas?" lol Because they can't get in a group anywhere's else. People gotta kick outta that one. (smile). My soul purpose with my Necro/Mo is to stomp rangers, it's more fun that playing a warrior. Their whirling defense is worthless against my superior chain of life stealing skills. I stopped using degens too slow, man life stealing is where it's at. And there is no elite like OOB, surprised a nerf hasn't been screamed about this one cause it's practically unlimited energy and life stealing is continous. (smile) I only fear two things, an energy denial mesmer and a warrior with a HAMMER RUNNNNNNN! laffin Bunny Thumpers I can handle but them warriors with hammers they a pain in my arse literally. (smile)

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

12 Feb 2006 at 13:34 - 43

Quote:

Rangers are getting more and more popular.
People are starting to realise how good they are.
Barrage/Interupt/Pets rangers are great in tombs
You can do it in about 1hr flat.
5 Ra/mo
1 minion master
1 order
1 pure healer

If yur having trouble getting in groups, then your not trying that hard.

I think you got it right.

There was a time when ranger and necros were never invited to a group. If you weren't a healer a tank or a nuker you couldn't get into a group. Now I find rangers and necros all the time. I hardly see many Ele to tell you the truth. I think Necro has replaced Ele. Here's why AOE.

The best thing that ever happened to necros and rangers was when Anet nerfed AoE dmg. Ppl had gotten used to Eles doing thier thing , but AoE went south ppl had to find alternative ways to replace AoE dmg. I think Rangers and Necros have taken that place. Mesmers on the other hand...

Ranger unpopular? That doesn''t hold water. The American and European Guild Wars Champions each used 2 Rangers inthier final builds. It was 3 Tanks, 3 Monks, 2 Rangers. No casters whatsoever. an you say Ranger are unpopular yet they are in the top level of Guild Wars Competition.

romeo_longsword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

United Kingdom - London, China - Hong Kong

R/

12 Feb 2006 at 13:43 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

You should've just specified from the start you wanted a farming build for your ranger, and that the groups you couldn't get in to were the standard 5-man farming teams.

In my first post, I have addressed just that, its not my responsibility when others can not comprehend such simple message.

Here is a reminder:

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeo_longsword

Been playing the ranger since day one, and that’s for two weeks now, my experience in looking for group to farm or to do missions has always been difficult.

Although, I have been grouping with a pack of rangers, we actually did very well among ourselves, but in the general impression of the ranger, are very undesirable and useless.

To pull monsters, warriors using a bow does the same job, in contrast, the ranger can not tank.

romeo_longsword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

United Kingdom - London, China - Hong Kong

R/

12 Feb 2006 at 13:53 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by funbun

Ranger unpopular? That doesn''t hold water. The American and European Guild Wars Champions each used 2 Rangers inthier final builds. It was 3 Tanks, 3 Monks, 2 Rangers. No casters whatsoever. an you say Ranger are unpopular yet they are in the top level of Guild Wars Competition.

PPL use rangers in PvP and being popular in amoug in a farming group is a different thing.

You are using the "top guild war competitions" as a referance of what is popular and what is not? There are many factors influence on their casting, I wouldnt based my world on them.

Beside, I disagree with you seems to belive its factual statment, I have watched many, many GvG compititions, only one that I saw, a guild brough 4 rangers, any other time, there are usually only 1 or 2, and recently, I have seen some with none.

So to me, what you've said almost seems fantasy.

Hanok Odbrook

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Tyria

Real Millennium Group

Mo/N

12 Feb 2006 at 14:08 - 46

At the outset, Rangers, Necros, and Mesmers were unfavorable characters to play with - simply because it takes slightly more strategy then the simple hack, blast, or heal that the other three professions possess. Most players look down on these three because they don't know how to play these professions successfully. Look at any of the top guilds and you will see that they use all six of the current professions very well. I bought two accounts so I can have a character from each prime and have successfully played PvP and solo farmed with each profession. Granted, some profs are easier to do both than others, especially with a complementary second, but once I learned how to use each prime by planning my strategy and playing towards its strength, I have done quite well.

I have found myself using my R, N, and Me more and more in the lower arenas because they are underestimated and that gives me quite the advantage over even the higher level characters simply because the person playing doesn't know how to counter my attacks. The most successful GWers have played through every profession to learn their strengths and weaknesses - those are the players you respect, because they respect everyone else, and they are the ones you really want to team with to improve your game play.

Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
http://www.realmillenniumgroup.com/guild.html
Truth * Knowledge * Peace

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

12 Feb 2006 at 14:14 - 47

Rangers are very well-rounded. As you advance deeper into the game, groups will be more picky on professions (they WILL want trappers, interrupters, runners, etc) and less about noobie opinions, such as "zomg rangers r suk".

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=115426

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

12 Feb 2006 at 23:20 - 48

PvE tombs is a blessing for those that have PvE rangers. Ranger there are the no1 choice farming characters, so for once rangers get picked first. I've done quite a few tombs runs with my ranger and have made more gold in about 1 week than I have the last 9 months playing my ranger.

Sents

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Various

E/Me

12 Feb 2006 at 23:39 - 49

You were rushed thru the game, basically run thru, and know your at the end with an underskilled(you have to know how to use the skills, just having them unlocked means nothing)ranger, and you complain that people dont like rangers, god Im tired of this argument. Get over it. I take my ele to Deldrimor Camp, and I am laughed out of there, do I make a post about how 'nobody love ele's', no I go and play the game, the way I like.
For your 'guildmates' to rush you thru the game on your first character is a BIG sign that they are a crap guild, they probably have alterior motives, want a ranger of high level for some such build, and you arent meeting their expectations, so blame the class, so rangers suck, no your guild sucks.
Start over, re do the game, learn it the way most of the best players have, by themselves, for themselves, not to make guildies happy. I suggest a different class 'cause your attitude towards rangers is probably not going to change.
Btw I just ascended my first ranger, love the class, much fun, much use, much death.

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

12 Feb 2006 at 23:51 - 50

I get into groups because my ranger is cute.

Seriously, I found it a little tough to get into groups early on with a ranger, but she is my fifth character so I know the missions well enough to do almost all of them with henchies and frankly no longer have the patience for PUGS unless I have too. I attempted THK wth only henchies and almost finished! I actually did much better with henchies than in the other two groups I was in with my ranger.

Later in the game, everyone wants Rangers so flex your skill set around to the needs of the mission. Traps, barrange, interrupts, whatever the group wants be ready to do.

Nilator

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

12 Feb 2006 at 23:54 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeo_longsword

my experience in looking for group to farm or to do missions has always been difficult.

then go to tombs and stop bitching

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

13 Feb 2006 at 00:06 - 52

I have never had a problem getting in groups with my ranger. Frankly I think the problem a lot of people have is they go and they get build instructions then they get the skills necessary for just that build. What that leaves you with is an inflexible character. Rangers have a lot of stuff they can do and they should be flexible. It shouldn'tbe anything for you to drop your current skill set and pull in new ones to compliment the needs of a given group,mission, farming are, PvP battle, whatever. I alternate between my anthrax ranger build and a styandard trapper build. I can also interrupts, spiking and with the right stuff my pet can tank. Flexibility is the key.

Thom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2005

13 Feb 2006 at 01:05 - 53

Again, didn't read the whole thread, but my bull meter is on high alert. Behind warriors and monks, rangers would likely be the 3rd played and used class in the game. R/W, R/mo. R/N. R/E, R/Me... all playable at a reasonablly high level. I've seen top guilds use rangers for just about everything imaginable.

There is no problem with ranger love...sorry.

Grimm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

13 Feb 2006 at 03:07 - 54

First, rangers *can* tank, and if set up properly, can do it as well or better than a warrior.

In PvE, unless you're running a very specialized build, classes other than monks, warriors and elementalists aren't popular due to the mindlessness of many PvE players, who think in the most simplistic, brute-force "tactics" possible.

In PvP, however, it's another matter entirely, as Rangers are very popular there.

In PvP you fight against real people who have varied builds and simplistic brute-force tactics (IWAY nonwithstanding) don't work as well as they do against stupid, easily exploitable AI monsters with fixed builds.

zakaria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

13 Feb 2006 at 05:31 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeo_longsword

Nope, I completed the game for a week, and have been looking for a group farming since.

Just speaking to a guild members now, she said, ppl only look for ss mm and nukers, nobody take ranger for farming. A dispointing fact to me.

rangers are the kings of New UW..everyone asking for barrager ranger there,even the other classes these days hard to join parties coz all they want is barrage spiker rangers
on other hand SF farming build doesn't contain ranger in it and nobody want to try them even for discovering new build.

Deathqueen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

13 Feb 2006 at 05:44 - 56

Heh if you think rangers aren't loved now, just wait till assassins and ritualists appear. The unloved will be unloved even more and who knows soon rangers could just become a memory. Someone will say Ranger? What's a ranger? (smile)

Karmakin

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

13 Feb 2006 at 05:54 - 57

My main character I'm playing in PvE is a Ranger right now. (It used to be a Mesmer, in fact I probably was one of the first mesmers to go through the game, but whatever.)

Quite frankly, if you're a Ranger and not finding things to do, then you're not playing Guild Wars at the moment. Things that I can do outside of the main missions, in PvE. (For PvP I can play Trapper, Oath Shot, Spiker, Interrupt Barrage...lot's of options)

#1. Barrage/Pet groups in Tombs UW. This is a whole lot of fun and very profitable. It's probably the most fun group to play the Tombs UW with. I tried a few other types of groups. Not nearly as fun.

#2. Trapper group for old UW and FoW. Errrr. Not so much now that most NA HA players are stuck in IWAY which sucks the life out of the balanced groups that have the best chance to win and hold halls at high level.

#3. EoE bomb farming at Noloni Acadamy. This is what I do when I'm feeling like I want solitude. It's really fun farming for Char Hides (which can be converted to Fur Squares at Ascalon...pretty good money), and the occasional Black/Silver dye. If you don't know what to do. Use Storm Chaser, run up to the lever in front, hit it. Drop the Edge of Extinction in the corner right by the gate. Run back down, start Barraging the Char as they run in. Eventually a few will die usually clearing the area, any Char left will need one hit or so. Pick up the loose gold and any hides/rune armors around.

#4. You could also trap farm Ettin's outside Beetleton. But I havn't really gotten the hang of this yet myself. The Mergoyles/Tengu's are too annoying :\

Four ideas of things you can do as a Ranger RIGHT NOW.

coolsti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

13 Feb 2006 at 11:08 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakaria

rangers are the kings of New UW..everyone asking for barrager ranger there,even the other classes these days hard to join parties coz all they want is barrage spiker rangers
on other hand SF farming build doesn't contain ranger in it and nobody want to try them even for discovering new build.

The basic reason why rangers, or mesmers for that matter, have a hard time finding a PUG group to join is because a large amount of GW PVE players have decided they only want to play the cooperative game with highly specialized groups. Like for example the "barrage" groups for the new UW. Or the many other specialized 5/8 or 6/8 party builds that are intended only for farming in as quick and as efficient manner as possible.

Rangers, mesmers, in fact all professions and all builds within a profession, are interesting and worthwhile to play with, as long as this "efficient farming" or 5/8 instead of 8/8 mentality is dropped. I play GW now mostly with friends but we fill up our party with whatever human players we find that seem like nice, friendly players. And we don't care about the profession as long as the party is nicely balanced. And we rather go out with a full party of 8/8 and have lots of fun rather than for example 5/8. I went out once with a "specialty" group, a barrage group, to the new UW and although the tour was quick and efficient, I found it boring and I would not want to do it again.

We went out last night to SF and filled up our friends group with 4 newcomers. One of them remarked "wow, a full party! How unusual!" We had a lot of fun, and got maybe 6 green drops during the tour.

Certainly if one just stands around TOA, War Camp, or the new UW Tombs area things can become rather depressing when trying to join a party with a build that does not fit into one of these specialty parties. But I am sure that there are more players than myself and my friends that share this playing style of wanting to go out with balanced and interesting party combinations. Just keep looking, and advertise that you are looking for that kind of party, or form one yourself.

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

13 Feb 2006 at 12:57 - 59

my primary character is a ranger, and I have never problems finding a group.

I played maybe 10 times the new UW with barrage groups and its not boring at all... imo this just depends on what ppl are in your party, I met a nice guild with lots of cool ppl, and when they are online I try to make a group with them.

Maybe I love the new UW just because I love rangers

Mort

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Philadelphia Pa

Nero Dreamers [Nd]

Mo/Me

13 Feb 2006 at 15:33 - 60

Ive got kicked from so many groups for being a ranger... no idea why. I have 6 chars... one of each.. and I think the most effective chars in PVE are Rangers (apart from a good monk maybe) Rangers can Dish out TONS of damage. They can prevent damage via interupts... blinding... prevent healing via interupts... They can tank... their pets can tank and deal as much damage as most warriors. The spirits make rangers even more powerful. The most fun group I ever played in was 6 rangers + mehenlo + Lina. Everyone brought a Spirit. It was a blood bath!

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

13 Feb 2006 at 16:00 - 61

When my wife played her ranger character, he was a warrior secondary, and she pretty much had him tank his way through Ascalon.

After that he came into his own.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

13 Feb 2006 at 19:27 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mort

The most fun group I ever played in was 6 rangers + mehenlo + Lina. Everyone brought a Spirit. It was a blood bath!

I bet that was fun. The most fun I've had was the Monk's Path quest. we had 2 trappers, and 2 monks a necro and an ele. The rangers: we just laid traps on top of trapper for those smite thingine. everyone else in the group got a free ride because the smites would get killed by the time they made it through our traps.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

13 Feb 2006 at 19:53 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mort

The most fun group I ever played in was 6 rangers + mehenlo + Lina. Everyone brought a Spirit. It was a blood bath!

I bet that was fun. The most fun I've had was the Monk's Path quest. we had 2 trappers, and 2 monks a necro and an ele. The rangers: we just laid traps on top of trapper for those smite thingine. everyone else in the group got a free ride because the smites would get killed by the time they made it through our traps.

kc99

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Scotland

Renaissance Desire

R/Mo

14 Feb 2006 at 16:05 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithie

Rangers unpopular? Are you freaking kidding me?

All I see in are ranger trapping groups and 2 man SS runs

All I see in tombs are barrage teams.

No, rangers aren't unpopular. Not by a longshot.

This quote says it all.

THE RANGER HAS RETURNED!

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

14 Feb 2006 at 16:07 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc99

This quote says it all.

THE RANGER HAS never been away!

copied with small correction.

kc99

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Scotland

Renaissance Desire

R/Mo

14 Feb 2006 at 16:26 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc99

This quote says it all.

THE RANGER HAS RETURNED!

LOL ok you're right! I was trying to think of something profound to say but this is the best i could come up with.

Anyway as someone once said "RANGERS PWN"

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

14 Feb 2006 at 16:44 - 67

Here's one "Pwnted by Rangers, Inc."

MaxxHel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

ninja land

Shinigami Keys

R/

14 Feb 2006 at 20:29 - 68

PvP Ranger

Poison shot, incindiary arrow, dual shot AND! Frenzy muahahahahha just make sure you look like a noob and don't get attacked for the first 5 seconds. Generally I take 2 evading stances so I can tank a bit too hoping that I will be left alone and can frenzy like a mad bastard. It was so easy PvE I don't even remember most of my builds but it was easy from the start I dun get why ppl compare ranger to mes and say it's hard to get them off the ground. I have yet to see any build as usefull/fun/high dmg dealing as a R/W. I havn't even really got into using spirits and my pet yet either and my R/W is my first char.

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

14 Feb 2006 at 20:41 - 69

To be honest the reason rangers are having a hard time, hell I doubt they are but lets just humor me, is because every single on of them in PvE runs the exact same horrible barrage build... then somehow call them selves interupters. Can't people make up their mind ><

I must wonder though, why did everyone choose barrage? Beyond the large degree of numbers you see, its a rather worthless skill IMHO, not much better than power shot. I think I'd prefer balanced stance to barrage anyday... especially if I was running interupt... but that's just me.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

14 Feb 2006 at 20:44 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sol_Vie

Rangers are jackasses of all trades

ok no more trolling.. I like the new tombs though- best run was 55 minutes in a barrage/pet pug

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

14 Feb 2006 at 20:52 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theos

I must wonder though, why did everyone choose barrage? Beyond the large degree of numbers you see, its a rather worthless skill IMHO, not much better than power shot.

Hmm? Have you been on a Tombs run? I don't mean to flame you and I'm not, but nothing beats Barrage against angry mobs. I love lighting up a mob with Barrage and watching all those negative numbers rise above their heads. You won't get that with power shot (which I take with me for interrupts).

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

14 Feb 2006 at 21:59 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathqueen

Heh if you think rangers aren't loved now, just wait till assassins and ritualists appear. The unloved will be unloved even more and who knows soon rangers could just become a memory. Someone will say Ranger? What's a ranger? (smile)

If things don't change, please consider that Ritualist weapon skills work with Barrage.

Now rethink your statement.

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

14 Feb 2006 at 23:07 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithie

No, rangers aren't unpopular. Not by a longshot.

Dear god, please tell me that wasn't intentional.

Seriously, rangers rock. But then again, I say that about every class.

MaxxHel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

ninja land

Shinigami Keys

R/

16 Feb 2006 at 04:44 - 74

I know nothing about thte 2 new builds but I wanna try a R/assassin it just sounds like a good fit... I'll probably try it even without looking at the skills first just for fun.

Ju_Smurph

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

In a house

[TaB]

Me/N

16 Feb 2006 at 06:04 - 75

rangers have Both Underworlds... which are very popular farming spots.

Want love, try a mesmer.

coolsti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

16 Feb 2006 at 09:31 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theos

To be honest the reason rangers are having a hard time, hell I doubt they are but lets just humor me, is because every single on of them in PvE runs the exact same horrible barrage build... then somehow call them selves interupters. Can't people make up their mind ><

I must wonder though, why did everyone choose barrage? Beyond the large degree of numbers you see, its a rather worthless skill IMHO, not much better than power shot. I think I'd prefer balanced stance to barrage anyday... especially if I was running interupt... but that's just me.

I agree! When I first got Barrage as elite for my ranger, I used it constantly, thinking it was the best skill. Now I never use it. Barrage is marksmanship, and the skills I use mostly are based on WS, and it is hard to have WS at a high level, expertise sufficiently high, and still have enough points left to put marksmanship about 11.

I usually play ranger when we go out to SF with friends groups, and I usually take along the three non-elite traps, rebirth, troll, and some interrupting shots. As elite I vary between Poison Arrow, Incendiary arrows, or even Oath Shot, but never Barrage, and my ranger is very effective and damaging. My friends teams allow me to lay down three quick traps before each battle, and I lay more traps during a battle when I can, and the blinding, burning and crippling does indeed make a big difference.

Two nights ago we went out to SF with friends, and since there were already two rangers in the party, I decided to go as domination mesmer instead. Well, neither ranger took any traps at all, no pets either, and so I suppose they were mostly interrupting and marksmanship based. Well, we had a very difficult time of it, and wound up giving up after only a few bosses. Its very difficult for a ranger to interrupt Task Masters and other mesmers, unless they are using choking gas.

I just think traps are great!

M Sparkle

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cavalon

BOTR

R/Mo

16 Feb 2006 at 10:21 - 77

I love rangers! Ranger was my first character the day guild wars was released, and still what I play today. I think they're the most versatile profession in the game, and personally the most fun to play, by far.
I love trapping UW, barraging tombs, farming SF, ettins, running, I've even tanked an IDS run with myself, an ele, necro, and monk after crappy tank ditched, trick is good monk, not good tank.

Anyway, there's no doubt people generally seem to overlook rangers, I think it's a shame. Some of the most fun missions I've done though have been in all ranger groups. Hopefully there'll be some key skills for rangers with factions that will boost their popularity and make it easier to find groups.

General Typhus

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

Behind the bush once again

Guillotine Tactics [GanK] ~ Leader

W/E

16 Feb 2006 at 10:31 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ju_Smurph

rangers have Both Underworlds... which are very popular farming spots.

Want love, try a mesmer.

Mesmers don't need love. I have a buddy that can solo UW with his mesmer.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

16 Feb 2006 at 13:46 - 79

the further into the game, the more rangers are needed/wanted.

Sure in ascalon and Northern Shiverpeaks you wont get into groups easy, but you dont need too.

Towards the end of the game, and in Pvp especially - groups usually take 1-2 rangers.

aismailuk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/W

16 Feb 2006 at 14:32 - 80

Well, I did my bit for bucking the trend in Deldrimor War Camp...

I heard someone posting "lf warrior tank for Oro mission", so i asked them if it had to be a warrior tank that went with them...or would a Ranger (i.e, me) do?

After much wrangling, I got them to give me a try and well....I gotta say, it was the most fun I've had in SF! We went through the whole thing and completed the mission, picking up many greens between us on the way.

Now, whenever anyone in that PuG is online, I just have to ask them if they want to farm Oro and they have NO problems with me as the tank.

The moral of the story? Keep at people if they don't think that Rangers can do a specific job in their 'uber-PuG'.

Rangers can be as useful as any other character in this game, you just have to get your builds right and you're onto a winner.