Well, i feel like an idiot. (scammed)

XBloodHoundX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Washington State

R/Mo

Just sold my Victos Battle Axe for 45g! What a great feeling this is. I feel like an idiot. At least i will be more careful in the future.

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

You could report that person to Anet, if you have a screenshot and the name, if that helps.

ShadowStorm

ShadowStorm

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Take me where I cannot stand.

The Better Part of Valor

W/N

If it makes you feel any better I sold 8 ectos for 83g about a month ago.

Lampshade

Lampshade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Xen of Onslaught

Quote:
Originally Posted by M1h4iL
Uou could report that person to Anet, if you have a screenshot and the name, if that helps.
What did they do wrong? Its not like he hacked into the persons account. I'm sorry to say it, but most of the blame is on the seller.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

the old "cancel then put the wrong amount of money in, and the person is in such a hurry they accept it" routine.

im surprised people still fall for this. At least you learned your lesson and it wont happen to you again

tsfherrera

tsfherrera

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Palmdale.California

The Ritual Union

W/E

Yeah, that does suck,
But hey, live and learn

Rilder

Rilder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mystic Shadow Soldiers (MSS)

R/

never been scammed but attempted... its just i'm way over protective i usualy sit there for 2 minutes stairing at the trade window hoping it isnt a scammer... you dont know how many times i've not been scammed but in this hopeless dilusion thinking i did end up flaming a non scamming buyer XD

RaabTheGuru

RaabTheGuru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Southern California

Wizards Anomyous [WoA]

N/Me

There's a few easy ways to avoid getting scammed that I follow everytime I sell something for more than 10k.

1. Example: You're selling Victos Battle Axe. You want to sell it for 45k, and someone whispers that they want to buy it. After you put in the axe and they put in the money, watch the lower left part of the chat box and wait for the "xxx has accepted your offer." As soon as you see that, double check the money, then accept. NEVER rush through a trade.

2. If you're overly cautious, like me, sell things for weird prices. Selling Victos Battle Axe for 44,999 gold will not only interest people to buy it, but will help prevent people from scamming. It's harder to fake 44,999 gold than it is for them to stick a 45 in the wrong slot. I've actually sold a weapon for 15k once to a guild member, but they put in 15g in purely by mistake. Sometimes people are in a bigger rush than you.

Just keep your eyes peeled, and when someone tries to scam you in-game, let everyone know. That's the best way to stop someone.

Hailfall

Hailfall

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

Phantom Commando

N/

Yeah that happened to me too.. was selling Koles torment and Victos axe.. guy first wants both for 70k then says that he only wants the Axe and gives me the axe for 70g...

Ah well.. live and learn..

Daena

Daena

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RaabTheGuru
There's a few easy ways to avoid getting scammed that I follow everytime I sell something for more than 10k.

1. Example: You're selling Victos Battle Axe. You want to sell it for 45k, and someone whispers that they want to buy it. After you put in the axe and they put in the money, watch the lower left part of the chat box and wait for the "xxx has accepted your offer." As soon as you see that, double check the money, then accept. NEVER rush through a trade.

2. If you're overly cautious, like me, sell things for weird prices. Selling Victos Battle Axe for 44,999 gold will not only interest people to buy it, but will help prevent people from scamming. It's harder to fake 44,999 gold than it is for them to stick a 45 in the wrong slot. I've actually sold a weapon for 15k once to a guild member, but they put in 15g in purely by mistake. Sometimes people are in a bigger rush than you.

Just keep your eyes peeled, and when someone tries to scam you in-game, let everyone know. That's the best way to stop someone.

That's great advice Raab
I've never been scammed myself either, since i'm one of those over-cautious people too, but the xxk xxxg is a good trick (never thought of that). Thx

pearhk

pearhk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Asia

never been scammed since i was a newb

when u are trading,
ONLY look at what he offer, no matter what he says, just look what offer he submitted
thats all

whenever u saw his offer is "right", click accept immediately
dont let him modify or distract u

Caged Fury

Caged Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

Another thing buyers tend to do now is state the figure only, e.g.

SELLER: WTS blah, blah, blah 45K
BUYER: I'll buy for 45
SELLER: OK

This gives the seller the ability to give either 45K or 45g. For most of us, it's obvious the seller wants 45K, but agreeing to 45 gives a little edge to the scammer as he/she can say they meant 45g and you agreed.

When buyers do this, I always follow up with a confirmation (in this case) "For 45K, it's yours. Okay?" and see what their response is.

If at anytime a person I'm trading with just cancels, or modifies the offer for no reason (i.e. what they offered was correct in the first place) I back out of the trade and look for someone else.

When buying or selling something expensive, never rush and take your time to check and double check the items or gold amount. It probably took you a long while to get your gold or that item you're selling, so an extra bit of time during trading to ensure you get what you want shouldn't be a problem.

So hey, let's be careful out there.

Schorny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Fury
Another thing buyers tend to do now is state the figure only, e.g.

SELLER: WTS blah, blah, blah 45K
BUYER: I'll buy for 45
SELLER: OK

This gives the seller the ability to give either 45K or 45g. For most of us, it's obvious the seller wants 45K, but agreeing to 45 gives a little edge to the scammer as he/she can say they meant 45g and you agreed.

When buyers do this, I always follow up with a confirmation (in this case) "For 45K, it's yours. Okay?" and see what their response is.
why, just why?

it's not that you signed a contract or something. if you don't want to sell, you don't need to.

if he offers you 50g instead of 50k, just laugh at him and say "nice try" or something and move on. there is no contract or stuff that forces you to give your stuff away...

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

some people really enjoy doing this , i hate so much selling and buying , i give most of my greens to guildies ... even if they leave the guild the next day i dont care , at least i feel good giving stuff.

Caged Fury

Caged Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

Schorny:
I didn't mean that you were obligated to sell at that agreed price. What I meant was, after agreeing and you continued with the trade quickly without checking properly and only found out afterwards. You can't truly argue that you got scammed because you didn't get what you were expecting.

Example, http://38.99.233.252/forum/showpost....&postcount=449

allience

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

when things like this happen it's the sellers fault and it's a stupid thing to report.
only thing i can say, u live and u learn. just assume from the start any1 will attempt a scam and double chek everything.

broodijzer

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

Mo/

Quote:
If at anytime a person I'm trading with just cancels, or modifies the offer for no reason (i.e. what they offered was correct in the first place) I back out of the trade and look for someone else.
that can happens by mistake too. I often cancel trades by accident, I hit escape because I typed something, and then I'm "nah, don't need to say it actually" and hit escape, and the trade is canceled. It's annoying if people don't want to trade with you after that.

Dazzen

Dazzen

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lampshade
What did they do wrong? Its not like he hacked into the persons account. I'm sorry to say it, but most of the blame is on the seller.
Come on what's this trash ? Don't tell me that ANYBODY buying ectos/shards/sup runes/priced items don't know they should put the amount in plats and not gold.

What did they do wrong ? this is very sad to see that some people are supporting scammers now.

The 45g instead of 45K scam just is lame, and now these crappy scammers are trying to fool around saying(i said i would pay 45 not 45K, gg for reporting). Anet should ban those people, purely and simply, no matter they say.

And for the background, no i've not been scammed yet but almost had once (people offering 8g for an ecto).

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Someone tried to pull that on me. They put in 50g when I asked for 50k. I called them on it and they quickly left the game. I'm pretty sure they were trying to scam me since they made a hasty exit.

Zero G

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

I did this to a person once.. I put in 500G instead of 5k for something I was buying, they took the trade then I realized what I had done. I had to chase that guy all over before he would let me open the trade window with him to fix it. He didn't even realize I had made the mistake.

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

That has got to suck...

Anyhow - Its good to double check things and pay close attention when trading, someone tried scamming me once - i was selling a FDS for 10k and they put 10g, but I caught it and then they actually gave me 13k beacuse they felt bad about the mistake...sometimes it's not intentional but others it is. for example everytime i go to get money out of storage, if i go to take out say 500g i always type 500k without really meaning to.

Just be more careful with trade, you can try reporting them as well if you have a SS and name.

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

It should only take a few seconds to confirm that the trade is OK. Then hit "Accept".

If anything distracting happened, whether in the game in your real-life house, check with extra care.

I don't think one has to get more careful than that.

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However, when I hit "Cancel" by mistake (and I often do), I QUICKLY whisper something to that effect, so that I don't appear to be a scammer. Most commonly, the exact problem is that I put 1 rather than the agreed amount of a crafting item into the trade window, and the only way I know to fix that is to cancel and start over.

Dazzen

Dazzen

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

You can also double click on the item you put in the trade, it will come back to your inventory

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

Just make sure it arent you who are making the mistake.

I once got Brohn's Staff(Around 80-90k it was worth) and i got a buyer quite fast. Everytime i accepted the trade it got canceled(around 3times), we both thought the other one was a scammer and we flamed each other abit.. but then i realized that i had 50k in my inventory! I was so embarrassed.

So make you it isnt your fault if you think they are trying the: Cancel, Cancel, Cancel - Put in "a small amount of gold" and accept fast scam :P

SpeedyKQ

SpeedyKQ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

E/Me

I think they ought to get rid of platinum and work only with gold. I don't see any upside to having the two different values. It seems to only help scammers.

Or at least change the trade interface to show all values in thousands of gold.

Funk_Styles

Funk_Styles

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Dayton Ohio

W/N

i have no sympathy for these people, i have never been scammed, on any online game i have ever played, i have this thing... what is it called again.... o yeah common sense
people doing wierd stuff SHOULD raise a red flag in your head, just assume anybody you dont know is a scammer and trade accordingly

omfg-sean

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Great Lords of Sith

Mo/Me

That almost happened to me except I saw the 20g and I was like fcuk you to the person lol

kdhoney44

kdhoney44

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Currently vacationing in reality....

Sith Jedi [SJ]

My favorite scam is the people who try to trade you the mursaat tokens (think thats the name) instead of ecto. Someone tried to get me the other day with this one. What makes them think that those 2 items look alike in a trade screen...lol. But I guess there are probably people who fell for it too.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedyKQ
I think they ought to get rid of platinum and work only with gold. I don't see any upside to having the two different values. It seems to only help scammers.

Or at least change the trade interface to show all values in thousands of gold.
Oh come on, there is nothing wrong whatsoever with the interface, 50K is 50 and 0, 50gp is 0 and 50.

I think in total its been tried 10 times with me to pull this trick, never worked and never will because I read the screen before clicking accept. That's all it takes..reading the trade interface before clicking accept.

gou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

globally warmed england

the discarnate

45g is a good price
45k for a sundering axe, that is a scam!

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

Anet should not ban these people. It is your own fault if you fall for this kind of scam. The trade system is very secure compared to the one in Diablo II, if you fall for this kind of scam then that's your problem.

Remember that Anet isn't police, they provided us with a great game and they wouldn't ban anyone for doing that especially if you look at how good their trade system is (really.). I'm sure they have better stuff to do than ban every little scammer.

Really, if every single of you people took the time to make sure you are trading for the right offer, their trick would never work and they wouldn't even bother to try it. They do because it works.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tijger
Oh come on, there is nothing wrong whatsoever with the interface, 50K is 50 and 0, 50gp is 0 and 50.

I think in total its been tried 10 times with me to pull this trick, never worked and never will because I read the screen before clicking accept. That's all it takes..reading the trade interface before clicking accept.
Speedy's right. It's too simple to make a mistake. Simply have the trade interface be in gold with leading zeros surpressed; nnn,nnn gold. Impossible to screw it up or scam it up.

Anyone arguing against it... you'd have to question their motives.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Fury
Schorny:
I didn't mean that you were obligated to sell at that agreed price. What I meant was, after agreeing and you continued with the trade quickly without checking properly and only found out afterwards. You can't truly argue that you got scammed because you didn't get what you were expecting.

Example, http://38.99.233.252/forum/showpost....&postcount=449
Yup, that's my post. Perfect example of a trade that went way to fast for me. Was in a hurry that afternoon to sell my stuff, so never noticed the scamming untill a few mins later Live and learn.

swiftygem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by kdhoney44
My favorite scam is the people who try to trade you the mursaat tokens (think thats the name) instead of ecto. Someone tried to get me the other day with this one. What makes them think that those 2 items look alike in a trade screen...lol. But I guess there are probably people who fell for it too.
Also the good old Bleached Shells vs Carapaces in the desert....I'd like to know how many people fall for it and actually buy a Carapace for 1k.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Speedy's right. It's too simple to make a mistake. Simply have the trade interface be in gold with leading zeros surpressed; nnn,nnn gold. Impossible to screw it up or scam it up.

Anyone arguing against it... you'd have to question their motives.
Um..so you are basically implying I'm a scammer because i can f'ing read a screen?

Perhaps its actually harder to read 50000 vs 50p 0gp? Or is that questionable too? Its just as easy to screw up 50000 vs 5000 btw and may I remind you that the comma is used in Europe to denote decimals? So your great idea would mean to me you are giving me 50 gp if its formatted 50,000.

So stop the implications, please, and consider that the rest of the world also plays GW.

ROASTBEEP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/N

Lol I like the people in LA who spam WTS 15^50 items and they are surprisingly cheaper than what you expect. But when you ask to see the item its 15% while health is below 50% and when you tell them that they still try and sell it to you at like 90% less of what they were spamming it for and most of the time its the Chinese farmers.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Feel like an idiot? :O You ARE an idiot. I've never been scammed, and I've played 1250 hours now.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

Someone tried to scam me once for a superior vigor.
They were around 65k at the time and he put in 65g.
I told him good try and its 65k so he pmed me seeing its worth the shot.
So this person was out for scamming.

What I do usually is be carefull and check to make sure that the amount is right.
Also they are 2 seperate boxes, one for K and one for G.
Make sure that the numbers are in the left box not the one on the right or closer to the edge of the window.

One thing I also do is when they start canceling (even if they are legit sometimes) I just tell them NVM and that the item is no longer for sale.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

I nearly got scammed like this before. When i first got my Malinon Shield. Some guy want to buy it for 90k (back when it were worth 75k or more) I thought sweet i got a great deal. Than the guy pm me "hurray up man, i got to go better do it fast". So i open a trade window. He put in 90 gold the first time. Told me it was lag. Cancel and did it again at 90 gold and told me to accept. Luckly, i looked at the screen and cancel on him.

My Sweet Revenga

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

If it makes you feel any better, I managed to get one back the other day.

Well ok it's more like he scammed himself. Didn't think he'd be dumb enough to hit accept, and THEN offer more But I'm not complaining. I most certainly hope I wasted a lot of his time, and that's 10 less mursatt tokens he'll be selling for 5-6k's