Many monks after ascension, don't see a reason to go ant further, unless it's their first char. Like my monk for example, now after I've ascended, I simply do GR and 55hpmonking.
I think taking money for missions, isn't something I like but people take money for everything. For example Sno's 55hp monk school, Drok runners and such. I'd never pay a monk to heal, henches work fine.
Monks for Hire
kimahri
dare49devil
Wow people. Monk SHOULD NOT CHARGE. They are REUIRED to do a mission or whatever you are doing. Monks for hire are just ABUSINg their job.
Running - You do NOT NEED to be ran.
Power leveling - YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE PWOER leveled.
Any other services you want to bring up?
Running - You do NOT NEED to be ran.
Power leveling - YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE PWOER leveled.
Any other services you want to bring up?
jet_striker
Just my own opinion.....
Well I have a monk and a tank... and well a monk is fun and all healing and what not... and monks are needed but they can be replaced with hench monks....
for example I completed all the missions as well as final missions with hench with my tank.... which I am proud of... So if a tank with hench can finish all the missions... monks for hire arent needed
Well I have a monk and a tank... and well a monk is fun and all healing and what not... and monks are needed but they can be replaced with hench monks....
for example I completed all the missions as well as final missions with hench with my tank.... which I am proud of... So if a tank with hench can finish all the missions... monks for hire arent needed
kimahri
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Wow people. Monk SHOULD NOT CHARGE. They are REUIRED to do a mission or whatever you are doing. Monks for hire are just ABUSINg their job.
Running - You do NOT NEED to be ran. Power leveling - YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE PWOER leveled. Any other services you want to bring up? |
wheel
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Originally Posted by dare49devil
Wow people. Monk SHOULD NOT CHARGE. They are REUIRED to do a mission or whatever you are doing. Monks for hire are just ABUSINg their job.
Running - You do NOT NEED to be ran. Power leveling - YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE PWOER leveled. Any other services you want to bring up? |
Like I've iterated, they're wasting their time to heal your team which is most likely less efficient than henchmen at doing the mission. If they wish to increase the price of their service from zero, they can do so. If the price is too high, that's another issue entirely. I think you're undervaluing your time here far too much. Let me put it another way: If a competent monk offered to be your personal healer for every mission and quest in the game, all for the price of 10 gold, would you take him up on that? I'd be willing to bet an HoD axe that you probably would say yes. What about 100 gold? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000? It's a slippery slope, for sure. What you're really complaing about, in essence, is that their prices are too high, and you're too scared to admit that your time is worth very little.
Gonzo
I'll take Alesia any day over a monk who deems himself important enough to charge for their services.
Poison Ivy
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I'll take Alesia any day over a monk who deems himself important enough to charge for their services.
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As for this monking problem I see everyone is exprincing, monks are just taking advantage of the situation, nothing wrong with that ^^
Vilaptca
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Originally Posted by wheel
By the same broken argument, guess what? Monks DO NOT NEED to heal you for free. They can get along with henchies just famously. It's a service. Look to the definition: "An act or a variety of work done for others, especially for pay" or "Work done for others as an occupation or business". Is there anything really to debate here?
Like I've iterated, they're wasting their time to heal your team which is most likely less efficient than henchmen at doing the mission. If they wish to increase the price of their service from zero, they can do so. If the price is too high, that's another issue entirely. I think you're undervaluing your time here far too much. Let me put it another way: If a competent monk offered to be your personal healer for every mission and quest in the game, all for the price of 10 gold, would you take him up on that? I'd be willing to bet an HoD axe that you probably would say yes. What about 100 gold? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000? It's a slippery slope, for sure. What you're really complaing about, in essence, is that their prices are too high, and you're too scared to admit that your time is worth very little. |
Caged Fury
In an ideal world, monks wouldn't be charging for their services and players wouldn't verbally abusing monks for their own failings in combat. But GW is far from being an ideal world. If monks want to charge others for playing their role, let them charge. Just don't take them up on it if you don't agree with it, and take hench monks instead. They're not brilliant but they do just fine.
No matter what profession someone plays, if they want to charge for playing it then I will not team up with them. I'm more than happy to take henchies instead.
No matter what profession someone plays, if they want to charge for playing it then I will not team up with them. I'm more than happy to take henchies instead.
S E V E R
The first time I got to Hells precipice I tried 6 times with human teams and failed, these teams had like 2 or 3 monks each instance. Then a mesmer girl told me she was going to solo with henchman and that people underestimate henchman. I considered this, set up Winter and Greater Conflagration on my ranger after a brainwave and managed it easily first time round with 7 henchman.
What's that all about?
What's that all about?
pobblepop
My main toon is an Mo/N who has completed the game and now spends his time in FOW/UW making money to stash away for my ritualist and/or assassin in Factions 
I have never charged people for joining their group and never would as I think there would be a lot of resentment if anyone died or the healing was particularly rubbish due to rushers or badly managed skillbars. Saying that I think it's ok if people want to charge gold to join a group that's having a hard time finding a monk for their build, it really is up to the individual if they want to pay for the monk and also if the monk wants to charge. I've warped over to the fire levels sometimes trying to sell bits and bobs to people and instantly I will have 3 or 4 blind invites and if I stand there not doing very much for more than a minute people start to give abuse like 'Come on monk, accept ffs' and 'f*c*ing noob monk join!!!!!' which is not conducive to a happy working environment so it's no wonder some monks decide to charge cash. A polite whisper to a monk asking if they would like to join can go a looooooong way. It's mostly about supply and demand. Since I started this game on day one when it came out the spam bar has been full of 'NEED MONK!!' and that has not changed to this day, so why shouldn't 'good' monks ask for cash to join a group desperate for them? I see no difference in this to a runner or spider charmer.
I have never charged people for joining their group and never would as I think there would be a lot of resentment if anyone died or the healing was particularly rubbish due to rushers or badly managed skillbars. Saying that I think it's ok if people want to charge gold to join a group that's having a hard time finding a monk for their build, it really is up to the individual if they want to pay for the monk and also if the monk wants to charge. I've warped over to the fire levels sometimes trying to sell bits and bobs to people and instantly I will have 3 or 4 blind invites and if I stand there not doing very much for more than a minute people start to give abuse like 'Come on monk, accept ffs' and 'f*c*ing noob monk join!!!!!' which is not conducive to a happy working environment so it's no wonder some monks decide to charge cash. A polite whisper to a monk asking if they would like to join can go a looooooong way. It's mostly about supply and demand. Since I started this game on day one when it came out the spam bar has been full of 'NEED MONK!!' and that has not changed to this day, so why shouldn't 'good' monks ask for cash to join a group desperate for them? I see no difference in this to a runner or spider charmer.
baz777
I’ve completed all the missions, been everywhere, farmed extensively, bought all I’ll ever need and managed to put a nice bit aside ready for Factions.
The last 2 weeks or so I’ve split my time between GVG with my guild and picking at random a mission areas offering the services of my monk ‘FREE’ to whoever will have me. I must say that by doing this it has, in some way, brought back some of the enjoyment and variety back into the game for me.
It has, however, reminded me just how few monks there are in PVE.
If there are monks out there charging for their services, which I strongly disagree with, I just hope that they are darn good at what they do.
What’s the difference between a monk charging to heal and a warrior running up to agro a group, sitting down, and demanding gold before he hits them with his sword?
The last 2 weeks or so I’ve split my time between GVG with my guild and picking at random a mission areas offering the services of my monk ‘FREE’ to whoever will have me. I must say that by doing this it has, in some way, brought back some of the enjoyment and variety back into the game for me.
It has, however, reminded me just how few monks there are in PVE.
If there are monks out there charging for their services, which I strongly disagree with, I just hope that they are darn good at what they do.
What’s the difference between a monk charging to heal and a warrior running up to agro a group, sitting down, and demanding gold before he hits them with his sword?
Gonzo
If I were a monk that would hear COME ON MONK JOIN FFS I would just join and come as a smiting monk, just to piss them off a tad bit more.
pegasux
first off I don't think there is anything wrong with charging if you a monk. I despise them and know that they are whats wrong with the game BUT it's their right though. Those greedy little punks bought the game so then can do as they wish. Yesterday was my first experience with a hired hand, i wanted a henchie healer but the "leader" wanted to hire one. Well he was half way decent, but was a total and complete prick! he wanted to charge for everything. he found a shield and someone asked for it and he wanted to charge 2k for it. plain jane shield. want candy canes to finish hells and would sell for 1k, bragging that he sold them for 700 but since in mission he charges 1k instead. then starts yelling at our other monk <free> cause he kept dying. needless to say i yelled at him cause he kept it up. Then the guy threatens to leave and I and 2 other say go ahead leave. after that he shuts up and just healed like his greed money grubbing butt was supposed to. i hate greedy people in the game. what are you supposed to do with all the money in the game anyways? I got my 15k armor and now have nothing else to buy for my character.
Van Falcon
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People pay runners to do certain missions. Why you wonder that some monks do the same? You asked for it.
 But the real problem is: it's no fun to play with pug's (usually) When I played through the game with my monk char I quickly started to prefer henchmen over pug's. Now I only play with friends or guild. When I ever play with a pug I'm testing a new build.  |
Van Falcon
I often go to THK and deliberately join the only group that isn't going 'JOIN MONK FFS#@!' 
Gli
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What’s the difference between a monk charging to heal and a warrior running up to agro a group, sitting down, and demanding gold before he hits them with his sword?
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fiery
I haven't seen this thread in SOO long, i remember the times in Ring of Fire monks spamming " pay to hire", made me laugh so i henchied the mission.
redguy
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I've been playing for a while now and ive experienced what im sure we've all experienced, which is a lack of monks in the end game missions.
I've also seen monks advertising their services for gold/items/etc. I've never hired any of these monks but I would like to know what other people's opinions and experiences of such individuals. How would you compare them to runners or mission runners? power levelers? etc. I just want to know what this community's stance is on such behaviors. |
When I do the Fire Islands missions, I go as a healer if that is what is needed. But I would like to add my name to the list of people who have completed the game with only henchies, and I did it as a Smiter. I didn't bring even one heal, or any tanks. All squishies.
Signet of Judgement, Meteor Shower, Bane Signet, Smite, Banish, Scourge Healing, Symbol of Wrath, Rebirth.
It was fun, challenging, but not all that hard to do. Don't pay a monk to heal you. Unless its worth it to you. Thats how it works. The buyer determines value, not the seller. If you pay the price, you are valuing his services. If it isn't worth it to you. It's simple, dont' pay. You'll be doing your part to lower his value.
Sinjin
I don't see anything wrong with a good monk charging for their services. You're essentially paying for the time of a quality monk who is significantly better than hench healers (who do have a bad tendency to res mid fight, and consequently die).
If you don't want to pay, you don't have to - just keep keep waiting 10 more minutes till you can find another monk.
If you don't want to pay, you don't have to - just keep keep waiting 10 more minutes till you can find another monk.
XvArchonvX
I USED to do put my monk's services up for hire at THK. At the time I started off asking for 2k to join for the mission (payment asked after the mission only if it was sucessful), but usually ended up doing it for 1k. I didn't do this solely to make money. I remember how long I waited to get a 2 monks in my group to do THK with some of my other characters and realized that not only did I spend waaaaaaay too much time waiting for monks, using henchie or inexperienced monks and failing meant that the process had to be repeated over again, which often became infuriating.
When I started doing this with my monk, I knew that there were obviously many easier and more profitable ways to make money, but the income wasn't that much less than other methods and it would help out other people who had experienced the same as I had.
The main reason I stopped this practice was because I got tired of being flamed because I was charging to help. If my service wasn't needed or my price was too high, then I wouldn't get hired. It was that simple, but some people took major offense to my actions, acting as if I was trying to scam people, even though I only accepted payment after sucess of the mission. Basically I got sick of being flamed for doing deciding to make money in a less profitable fashion than possible in order to help others.
When I started doing this with my monk, I knew that there were obviously many easier and more profitable ways to make money, but the income wasn't that much less than other methods and it would help out other people who had experienced the same as I had.
The main reason I stopped this practice was because I got tired of being flamed because I was charging to help. If my service wasn't needed or my price was too high, then I wouldn't get hired. It was that simple, but some people took major offense to my actions, acting as if I was trying to scam people, even though I only accepted payment after sucess of the mission. Basically I got sick of being flamed for doing deciding to make money in a less profitable fashion than possible in order to help others.
S E V E R
Say it takes an unlucky person 10 hours to get past THK.
How much could an unlucky farmer earn in 10 hours?
Should this suggest how much you should've charged?
How much could an unlucky farmer earn in 10 hours?
Should this suggest how much you should've charged?
XvArchonvX
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ANY monk worth the 2k he is asking for in RoF missions or THK would be able to do uw or fow 2 man or 3 man. in the most part these monks are doing this service because they are not very good enough for uw and see an exploit in these missions.
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Sometimes henchies can do a good job, but considering that henchies don't remove hexes or conditions, and have almost no intelligence when it comes to rezing? If people don't want to hire the monks, NO ONE IS FORCING THEM!
*sigh*
XvArchonvX
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Say it takes an unlucky person 10 hours to get past THK.
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S E V E R
Deep breaths....
..and chill
What I'm saying is that if a person had a farmer build on their profile but have other characters they need to get past THK, then it's a value of their time. They waste 10 hours trying with henchman or poor teams, that's 10 hours they could be farming. Of course this will vary from person to person. An individual making their way through the game for the first time may see 2k charge and scream.
..and chill
What I'm saying is that if a person had a farmer build on their profile but have other characters they need to get past THK, then it's a value of their time. They waste 10 hours trying with henchman or poor teams, that's 10 hours they could be farming. Of course this will vary from person to person. An individual making their way through the game for the first time may see 2k charge and scream.
sun is in us
Well, any Monk that was asking for money in a serious way, will never find a spot on my team (and I have a PVE Monk). And I would never "charge" somebody in any real way.
But, if somebody was doing it all in fun, or had some goal they needed...then perhaps.
If it was approached like: "I know these mountains and have faced this enemy before.....I would be happy to be your guide for hire......"
Or....."Well I am just a humble Monk, and do not relish the thought of combat. But since our Order is shunned by many in Tyria, we have had to relocate and are in serious need of funds....perhaps I can be of some use to you on this journey, for a small donation....."
Etc.......You know......gaming/fun stuff.
But, if somebody was doing it all in fun, or had some goal they needed...then perhaps.
If it was approached like: "I know these mountains and have faced this enemy before.....I would be happy to be your guide for hire......"
Or....."Well I am just a humble Monk, and do not relish the thought of combat. But since our Order is shunned by many in Tyria, we have had to relocate and are in serious need of funds....perhaps I can be of some use to you on this journey, for a small donation....."
Etc.......You know......gaming/fun stuff.
S E V E R
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Well, any Monk that was asking for money in a serious way, will never find a spot on my team (and I have a PVE Monk). And I would never "charge" somebody in any real way.
But, if somebody was doing it all in fun, or had some goal they needed...then perhaps. If it was approached like: "I know these mountains and have faced this enemy before.....I would be happy to be your guide for hire......" Or....."Well I am just a humble Monk, and do not relish the thought of combat. But since our Order is shunned by many in Tyria, we have had to relocate and are in serious need of funds....perhaps I can be of some use to you on this journey, for a small donation....." Etc.......You know......gaming/fun stuff. |
XvArchonvX
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Originally Posted by dare49devil
Wow people. Monk SHOULD NOT CHARGE. They are REUIRED to do a mission or whatever you are doing. Monks for hire are just ABUSINg their job.
Running - You do NOT NEED to be ran. Power leveling - YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE PWOER leveled. Any other services you want to bring up? |
Since by being a monk I am REUIRED (hehe) to do my job does that mean that I should be forced to go back and to THK and other later missions again with other people over and over again?
As for running, no one NEEDS to be ran, but after you've played the game through fully with at least one character, what's wrong with having control over acessing the parts of the game you want?
Power leveling is a bit silly to me, but if someone wants to do it, go for it, no skin off my back. I don't see where it hurts anyone else.
Either way, I don't see running or power leveling as being comparable to a monk for hire. A monk for hire is simply being hired to help others play through the game as it was meant to be played. If you choose to buy stronger armor/weapons to get past harder levels with more ease, what is wrong with hiring good experienced help to do the same?
Burakus Lightwing
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I'll take Alesia any day over a monk who deems himself important enough to charge for their services.
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XvArchonvX
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Agreed. What moron would pay for someone to heal them? It's only a game. If they chose to play a healer/protector then that is their role. If they feel they need to charge for it...delete the character and play something else.
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If it is a monks first time through a mission, charging is ridiculous, but if he decides to come back and redo a mission, then that is their choice. I'm sure it's perfectly possible to beat the entire game in Ascalon armor, but it's a hell of a lot easier and likely more fun if you have better armor to make the experience go a little smoother. It's simply a matter of preference, not a matter of intelligence.
XvArchonvX
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Deep breaths....
..and chill What I'm saying is that if a person had a farmer build on their profile but have other characters they need to get past THK, then it's a value of their time. They waste 10 hours trying with henchman or poor teams, that's 10 hours they could be farming. Of course this will vary from person to person. An individual making their way through the game for the first time may see 2k charge and scream. |
MSecorsky
Anyone that needs a monk and sees Eggfu Young out there, ask me to give you a hand and I'll be happy to do so. I'd rather shave my short-and-curlies with a hedgetrimmer than charge for the service too.
One thing I'm learning from monking... we really do seem to have more sway over the success/failure of a mission through normal play than other classes. This also means we have a greater obligation not to abuse our position. If you're the sole monk and you quit... you screw things up for up to seven real people out there that have been spending their time working together to reach a goal.
If you can't accept the responsibility with humility and dignity, don't be a monk.
One thing I'm learning from monking... we really do seem to have more sway over the success/failure of a mission through normal play than other classes. This also means we have a greater obligation not to abuse our position. If you're the sole monk and you quit... you screw things up for up to seven real people out there that have been spending their time working together to reach a goal.
If you can't accept the responsibility with humility and dignity, don't be a monk.
Linsys
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All this from someone who tried to charge 100k(yes 100platinum) for a run(?) to the forgemaster in the FoW.
That was good for laugh let me tell you. Is the fact that you were trying to charge such an amount supposed to allude to your talents as a monk? You must be awesome indeed.LOL So far I have been in 3 guilds, they basically suck, unless the guild happens to be made up of very generous people(ya right), or they happen to be a group of friends, your still on your own if you have the guild 'tag' after your name or not. And I dont recall reading anywhere that joining a guild was a requirement for finishing the game. And no I dont need to be reminded what the game is called, not everyone has the time, desire, or inclination to belong to a guild. Nor should they have too. |
Um.... I have no close who you are or what you are talking about.. people paid our guild 50k to run them to forge.. unless of course I was just talking S H I T in ToA...
We don't do forge runs any more, but for the record have been paid over 200k for a run... so go away now.... join a guild and stop your whining.
Sinjin
Monks charging for missions aren't doing it solely for the money since there are more profitable returns for time than doing missions. (even without solo 55'ing).
The monks that are charging are usually the same monks that: 1. don't have anything better to do, 2. like to cooperatively play, 3. need an incentive to play well, 4. have beat the game, 5. are generally pretty good players.
For a monk that has beaten the game, what incentive does he have to help others through a mission? At least if you pay him, he'll do his best to keep you alive. I've seen many blind monks leave mid mission simply cuz they found something better to do.
If the general community appreciated good monks more often (it can get tiresome for a monk to heal all the time and not deal damage), then perhaps you'd see fewer monks charging for services, and more monks just playing to have a good time.
I think it's fine for a monks to charge.
The monks that are charging are usually the same monks that: 1. don't have anything better to do, 2. like to cooperatively play, 3. need an incentive to play well, 4. have beat the game, 5. are generally pretty good players.
For a monk that has beaten the game, what incentive does he have to help others through a mission? At least if you pay him, he'll do his best to keep you alive. I've seen many blind monks leave mid mission simply cuz they found something better to do.
If the general community appreciated good monks more often (it can get tiresome for a monk to heal all the time and not deal damage), then perhaps you'd see fewer monks charging for services, and more monks just playing to have a good time.
I think it's fine for a monks to charge.
MSecorsky
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Monks charging for missions aren't doing it solely for the money since there are more profitable returns for time than doing missions. (even without solo 55'ing).
The monks that are charging are usually the same monks that: 1. don't have anything better to do, 2. like to cooperatively play, 3. need an incentive to play well, 4. have beat the game, 5. are generally pretty good players. For a monk that has beaten the game, what incentive does he have to help others through a mission? At least if you pay him, he'll do his best to keep you alive. I've seen many blind monks leave mid mission simply cuz they found something better to do. If the general community appreciated good monks more often (it can get tiresome for a monk to heal all the time and not deal damage), then perhaps you'd see fewer monks charging for services, and more monks just playing to have a good time. I think it's fine for a monks to charge. |
Anyone that needs to be paid to do his best to keep others alive as a monk needs to delete his monk, because he degrades a noble profession. Healers and protectors are the most "we" profession in the game, imo. You do it because you like to help others and to work as a team.
Monks charging for their services... very sad.
Dralspire
(Hello from Dral the monk - link) It is understandable that the emotions run high, especially for Thunderhead Keep and the Fire Islands missions. Yes, these are tricky missions, and yes, teams tend to make it more difficult for themselves by over-analyzing, rushing, or taking a rather complicated approach.
I am not sure what 1 or 2K are supposed to accomplish for the monks asking for it. If you pick up your gold and loot, that sort of gold comes your way in any of the missions beginning in the Southern Shiverpeaks. If a monk needs to ask for payment, this suggests a need which naturally is not a good indicator for the PvE experience of said monk.
At the end of the day, I don't think we will ever manage to stop some monks from asking for gold, even though this really messes with their divine favor. This holds particularly true if teams continue to advertise that they will pay monks. However, you are free to choose the free route. All of you are in the position to switch your secondary profession to monk and equip some healing spells if you feel you need to add extra healing, all of you have some skills for self-healing that should never leave your skill bar, and all of you are able to complete the missions beginning in Thunderhead Keep with henchmen only (I repeatedly did with W, R, E, Mo).
... and if all else fails, go back to the Crystal Desert/Kryta/Ascalon and help people. You will find that there are nice players out there that enjoy in-game friendships and help each other out.
I am not sure what 1 or 2K are supposed to accomplish for the monks asking for it. If you pick up your gold and loot, that sort of gold comes your way in any of the missions beginning in the Southern Shiverpeaks. If a monk needs to ask for payment, this suggests a need which naturally is not a good indicator for the PvE experience of said monk.
At the end of the day, I don't think we will ever manage to stop some monks from asking for gold, even though this really messes with their divine favor
. This holds particularly true if teams continue to advertise that they will pay monks. However, you are free to choose the free route. All of you are in the position to switch your secondary profession to monk and equip some healing spells if you feel you need to add extra healing, all of you have some skills for self-healing that should never leave your skill bar, and all of you are able to complete the missions beginning in Thunderhead Keep with henchmen only (I repeatedly did with W, R, E, Mo).... and if all else fails, go back to the Crystal Desert/Kryta/Ascalon and help people. You will find that there are nice players out there that enjoy in-game friendships and help each other out.
Tarkin
Let them make some money... use the henchs, better time reponse...
Now henchs heal king, and it make the mission very easy... if u really is a good player, and not here just to blame monks by u own lack of ability...
Now henchs heal king, and it make the mission very easy... if u really is a good player, and not here just to blame monks by u own lack of ability...
XvArchonvX
*update* strike going on at THK for all monks!!
Mimi Miyagi
Anyone complaining about monks charging for their services are nothing but hypocrites if they have EVER paid (or been paid) to run anywhere. I don't care if it's a monk's natural duties or not. I don't care if you can use henches or not.
Just like life - when there is a demand for a product or service, people will pay for it. The fact that people DO pay money for monking simply reinforces that. Just like running...don't like it? Don't partake of it. Think it's wrong? Go make your own monk and offer your services for free, or shut up. Again, it doesn't impact how YOU play the game, so why should you care? Same argument people use for runners. Personally, I think running has done more harm to the game than any other single aspect - but that's not germane to the discussion.
Moral or immoral is inmaterial.
Capitalism at it's finest.
Just like life - when there is a demand for a product or service, people will pay for it. The fact that people DO pay money for monking simply reinforces that. Just like running...don't like it? Don't partake of it. Think it's wrong? Go make your own monk and offer your services for free, or shut up. Again, it doesn't impact how YOU play the game, so why should you care? Same argument people use for runners. Personally, I think running has done more harm to the game than any other single aspect - but that's not germane to the discussion.
Moral or immoral is inmaterial.
Capitalism at it's finest.
Diablo???
All I know is if I have to hire a monk, they better impress the hell out of me with their healing powers... get my god damn money's worth.