New Frog Talk (and some very useful info!)

Fully agree, its not a matter of not being able to get it back, you can.

But if it actually IS reset, that takes MONTHS out of geting ranks back except for the best of the best, a very small circle of groups who will rape for weeks in HoH.

I like the part on the 4vs4 in GvG for smaller guilds but I don't like the fame reset for everyone.I earned some of my fame through beta on one account well most of it and I worked hard for it and I would hate to lose it.I don't have any rank atm.

I love how the Frog basically told this whiner to shut up because his friend got banned for language. That was the best part to me.

the only change that should really be made to fame is that you should lose fame for losing in the halls. although not go negative fame. as it is a year from now people will be going rank 20+ only and newbies will be shut out FOREVER.

And where is the difference between getting shut out from a R3+ group and getting shut out from a R20+ group?

If you'd actually LOSE fame for a lost game, I can guarantee you that no ranked group would EVER take in a lesser ranked player again. Why would they if it would endanger their own rank? Instead every ranked player out there would only play with guild teams and people from their friends list. People they know and they can rely on to perform adequately. The risk of taking in an unknown player would simply become too high.

Also, please imagine for one moment what the flaming and bitching would be like if a team loses and people lose fame because of that. Don't you think they'd start to blame it on someone? Don't you think it would result in some major name calling? No? Well...

Losing fame on lost games = worst idea ever. It would cause a level of elitsm and segregation in HA that would dwarf anything that's going on there now.

Just to clarify for that silly amphibian, there is no planned reset for Fame. I'm have no idea what he said to give that impression. Gee, maybe I oughta read the logs, huh? But no, Fame will remain in place.

As to skills, well, yes, some will definitely be changed. We'll all see the whole rebalancing list in a week, give or take a few days.

people jumped to that conclusion when the frog said "remove fame earned from animal deaths" when what the frog ment basically was u can't farm rank with iway no more after the update which would remove the ability to earn fame through iway.

the entire "resetting guild rank is the same as resetting fame" is a flawed statement. consider this

Compare Guild wars pvp to American Football

During a season of football players can earn records, individual records which they keep throughout there carreer untill broken but if a team wins the superbowl they are champions but after the new season starts all teams start over.

it's the same as guildwars the ladder is team based and a season for GvG is set and a champion is declared and after that the ladder resets and a new season starts.

Removing fame will not remove the elitism, those high rank people are not gonna forgot who they pvp with, they will continue to form groups of people they know.

anyways we all know iway will be nerfed, i think cripple shot to. I would love to see what gets a buff and maybe the ele will get the buff needed imo. Funny how 55ers will get hit this time if at all. It would be great if FINALLY after months and months of nerfing skills they just finally stop letting people get into UW and FoW without a full party but probably not.

thanks Gaile for clearing that up, i was getting rather angry with all the speculations going around, there is just no way that fame would be reset. EVER!!!

Im sure there will be more nerfed skillz then buffed ones .
-''The frog did not fail to see the many uses of this skill called gale......" and he also "belives" its difficult to combat. bye bye gale
-"What challenge,there, in using such powerfull items on powerless opponents." --this one is tricky, there can be items removed, or just simply not allowing 15k armor with that are lvl 10 to enter ascalon arena.

I dunno but i think i know how people are going to react to the re-balancing thingie. Call it more of , nerfinege and buffines of 1-2 skilz.

I just tossed out the idea because he said something about "removing fame earned from animal deaths."


Anyway thanks for clearing that up Gaile.

if it really doesnt mean anything to you, you wouldnt mind seeing people flashing their what-ever-animal emote they have and wont even advocate for a reset.

we all know that having a lots of fame doesnt always equate to versatility, proficiency in playing multiple classes or specialization in only a single class. but it certainly means one thing: winning a lot of tombs (now HA) matches playing with other players (team effort). sadly, it was overvalued that it prevented the influx of pvpers in tombs. but thank the fotms that even new comers can earn their fame now and got to beat supposed to be "unbeatable" teams and progress by trying other builds..

fame was earned by the people who picked up a build and won with it. but if ever A-NET finds resetting fame inevitable because people who just whined and even didnt bother to play anything or tried and failed to run rocket science builds that they didnt even understand and bashed "noob" builds *cough* animal slaughter based builds *cough*, which is *NOW* no way overpowered than spirit based builds or smite or chainlightning or ranger spike, think that fame reset will make a difference, so be it..

who cares anyway?


but thanks Gaile for the assurance. <3

funny