New FoW Armor?

The_Janitor

The_Janitor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

New Jersey

The Adventurer's Society [TAS]

Me/N

I'm sticking with my drok armor and I couldn't be happier.

Allanon Dark

Allanon Dark

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

When we go over to Cantha all of our current stats and equipment should go with us. This will be balanced because i know the Devs. will be smart and make the place that our Prophecies chars will start from in Cantha a high level area, either a LA or Droks. equivalent, so that we will not be at such a advantage over the new people in the land of Cantha.

Come one people, give the Devs a little bit of credit. They will be smart and start our Prophecies chars in a reasonable place.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

The problem is, people with FoW armor now will complain if there IS a new FoW that looks "cooler." People without FoW will complain if there ISN'T new FoW armor cause A.net isn't "adding enough content."

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

They said there would be crossgame content. Maybe one of those things is, the new armourset stats are added to the crafter in the fissure, but you need Factions to be able to buy it. So theres still only the normal Fissure set in the fissure, but peoplewith factions can buy fissure peices with the new armour stats.

lzlz

lzlz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

LA, CA

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Decoy
Ok... This is kinda getting to me. I just payed like 1.5 million gold for FoW armor and I will be pretty dissappointed if they come out with better newer more expensive armor than FoW. Anyone hear any word on this?

* Crosses fingers * (Hopes for no new FoW armor!!!)
Well, ask yourself why you have to craft the FoW armor? To look cool? To show that you are rich or what? The Stat of FoW Armor is exactly the same as the 15k and the 1.5k Droknar armor. So your intention is obvious --- either you wanna show that you have 1.5m or you really love the look of FoW armor.

So if you love the look of FoW, why are you complaining? You got what you want.
If you just wanna show that you have 1.5m, well, you did it.

That's simple. Think why some people have to use Cartier, Rolex, Ferrari even they don't really like the design?

Personally, I have the gold and materials to craft FoW. But I never do so cuz I never feel that it will make me stronger, looking better or cooler or whatever; nor it doesn't show that I am richer too. I don't even spend money in buying any new weapons and items now cuz I know it is not the right timing.

I just saw people spending 1.15m to buy a Shadow Sword 15-22 +15%^50 +30HP 10/10. Well, I can't stop laughing at the buyer. A "Perfect" sword can cost you like 100k to 200k max. So it's all about the skin which differentiates the prices.

You may love the look of a Shadow sword. But nobody will know IT IS a Shadow swords. 99% of the time, those noobs will just say "Victo's Blade sucks!" when they were pvping with you. But well, I did kill them in no time (people who judge others from appearance are noobs).

I am saving 3m for all the new stuff in Factions. For sure I will get the best and rarest thing in the Factions. For all those people who keep paying ridiculous price for something which will be forgotten in no time when Factions is released, I just wanna say "take care and have fun". LOL

Ellington

Ellington

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

South Carolina

Sons of Zeus [ZEUS]

Hey, this is kind of off-topic, but I just had a thought inspired by the "no Tyrian gold" guy...

Obsidian is a recurring motif in the Prophecies campaign, and the Prophecies high-end armor is based on it. It looks like jade will be a pretty common sight in Factions—similar to obsidian in Prophecies—so perhaps the new "FoW" armor will be jade related?

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Here's a two-week old thread necromancy I'm pullin, but here we go...


A thought... Ritualist and Assassin Fissure of Woe armor. I'm not talking FoW-equivalent, I'm talking FoW itself.

Think about it, will it be done? It's a known fact that Tyrian characters that have ascended on a linked account can travel to Cantha, and I'm pretty sure the opposite is true as well. Which sets up that there will definately be Ritualists and Assassins in Tyria. That being the case, they should be able to access anything Tyians could, with the exception of Pre-searing. Right, got it. So they will have access to the Fissure, ectos, shards, and of course, the Fissure armor itself, right?

The original 6 classes are gonna have access to a new type of Fissure armor, possibly, in Cantha, so that must mean that the Assassin and Ritualist are going to be able to get a set of good ol Fissure armor, too, right? Unless... Well, unless Tyrian characters aren't getting a new type of 'fissure' armor at all, and the armor you get in the Fissure of Woe will be the same armor you could get in an equally hard-to-get-to area in Cantha with equally rare materials and moolah.

All theory, so my question is, do we have anything concrete on any of this yet?

TekkenIronfist

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Underworld Order

E/R

Ok.. back on track, me summing up this whole topic:

Its almost certain that there will be a new "FoW" type armour.
Those who bought FoW are stupid IF they thought that was 'teh_best_there_ever_will_be'.
People who got FoW within the past few months should realise that since Tyria started to die and Cantha is comming to life - that is why FoW was reachable.
I paid 800k for my Fissure Robe 5+months ago and it took me 5days to earn that. (NOT in UW or FoW, and no items of great value were found by 'luck') I stopped at that point and im not going to continue.

You may notice in Factions Amber + Jadeite were "some" of the rewards you could get, its possible that these materials in large amounts could be used for new "FoW" or theres 'another material reward'. If this is the case then i love the idea - you cant farm Faction points, so none of this 55hp UW rubbish for ectos etc.

jpsantos20

jpsantos20

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hell

The Untold Heroes

W/Mo

Amber is used for the 15k Armor i think. From what i've read from another thread is that yes they are adding an equivalent FoW armor to factions.

All original 6 characters are able to get both FoW and "NEW FoW" from Cantha only if they have both Factions and Prophecies in one account. Assassins and Ritualist are the same.

Inari

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Israel

Well, I don't see why factions characters can't enter fow or uw from cantha.
They have the right statues there. All you require is favor.

TekkenIronfist

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Underworld Order

E/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpsantos20
Amber is used for the 15k Armor i think. From what i've read from another thread is that yes they are adding an equivalent FoW armor to factions.

All original 6 characters are able to get both FoW and "NEW FoW" from Cantha only if they have both Factions and Prophecies in one account. Assassins and Ritualist are the same.
Yes thats what amber is for, i said in "large" amounts, i.e. more than the required 80 for 15k.

Hella Good

Hella Good

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

None, free and clear

I applaud the idea of new fissure-like armor. I think it's something to look up to and save up for, if you wanna go for that relatively unique look. I know I'm not the only one supporting this.

The Abbott

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aruthas Gatekeepers

Mo/W

1 point no one seems to have thought of ... OF COURSE there will be a FOW or UW style place.. WHY??? a reason to gain favor thats why,....

Raziel665

Raziel665

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

N/Mo

If you coud not take all your stuff to Cantha, wouldnt the current economy die pretty quick, with everyone awaiting Factions?
Most people I know are getting their stuff ready for Factions, but when Factions is released, the rush and economy for pefrect gear starts again, due to new skins. I see no problem with taking your new gear to Cantha.

mrbb

mrbb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/

You can't possibly think that FoW armor will be the best looking forever! Just like fashion it comes and goes..with new releases of GW. And people always want the shinniest newest things.

Da Cebuano

Da Cebuano

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Virginia born in Cebu

Jelly Toast[jT]

W/

I kinda feel sorry for you, not only does the new Kurzick armor look so much better, but it also comes w/ a more practical helmet, +1 weapon att. Granted nothing too significant will change from the preview, it makes FOW armor obsolete unless you're one of the few people who buy FOW just cause its the most expensive and the prestige of spending too much money on it. I like the FOW female armor though, looks nice, can't say the same for the male armor.

Anyway, don't think I'm bashing I too bought FOW armor for my monk(- the shards, only good looking monk armor, w/o getting naked for the practicality of ascetics) so its not all bad, although I got mine about 6months into the game, you're kinda getting it somewhat late.

Still GG on accomplishment, hope you don't get too discouraged when you see Kurzick 15k armors running around looking 10x better.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
A thought... Ritualist and Assassin Fissure of Woe armor. I'm not talking FoW-equivalent, I'm talking FoW itself.

Think about it, will it be done? It's a known fact that Tyrian characters that have ascended on a linked account can travel to Cantha, and I'm pretty sure the opposite is true as well. Which sets up that there will definately be Ritualists and Assassins in Tyria. That being the case, they should be able to access anything Tyians could, with the exception of Pre-searing. Right, got it. So they will have access to the Fissure, ectos, shards, and of course, the Fissure armor itself, right?
Bingo! This is the 64 ecto question.

Hella Good

Hella Good

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

None, free and clear

By all means there should be Fissure Rt and Assa armor. I actually am planning on saving up for an Rt one if it looks cool enough. As for Fissure looks getting outdated... what can I tell you: I have Mesmer and Necro male fissure... having seen the Cantha armors I still think Fissure looks better. For those two classes anyway. I will certainly check out the new 15K, I like some of the new armor stats so it's likely I'll get me a set that has those stats. They might as well give us a closet or smth... by chapter 6 I'll have more clothes than the Queen of England...

LadyTheif

LadyTheif

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

USA

Fallen Knights Of The Shattered [Soul]

N/

yea drok and normal 15k for me, I never brought FoW. With all the armor. Some need a place to hold all of it.

sunny dai

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellington
Hey, this is kind of off-topic, but I just had a thought inspired by the "no Tyrian gold" guy...

Obsidian is a recurring motif in the Prophecies campaign, and the Prophecies high-end armor is based on it. It looks like jade will be a pretty common sight in Factions—similar to obsidian in Prophecies—so perhaps the new "FoW" armor will be jade related?
Ii don't know if i missed this in the thread but i can imagine there will be some pseudo high end armor (15k?) that uses the amber gained from trading in factions points.

Fates

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kanuckistan

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

Amber is used in Luxon 15k armor, and Jadeite is used in Kurzik 15k armor. Both can be attained by trading in faction. Highly doubt they'll be required for the Canthan FoW armor.

Pompeyfan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Isle of Wight

DVDF

R/

I'm hoping that there will be FoW versions of the new warrior armours as I still prefer the FoW look to what I've seen in the preview event. I was going to get FoW now, as I wanted Gladiator stats without looking a tit (same reason I got Ranger FoW - not to show off or brag about how rich, it was purely because I wanted Druids energy and think normal druids looks stupid on male characters), but I quite like the idea of the 100 AL on Sentinel armour..

mattjones527

mattjones527

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fates Monk
Amber is used in Luxon 15k armor, and Jadeite is used in Kurzik 15k armor.

I thought amber was kurzik and jade was luxon. typo maybe Fates Monk?

or am I just losing my mind....

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

I just hope that all armors are implimented into the game on release and we don't have people wastnig money on 15k armors that looks the same as 1.5 for a while...

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Cebuano
That male warr armor looks great! imagine that dyed black carrying a mursaat hammer! you'll look like sauron from LOTR! heh, I love that armor, hopefully it'll have gladiator like stats w/ energy mods or something useful. I'm definitely getting it though.


I went about in 12v12 with that armour on (PvE factions beta character) saying 'I am SAURON!'. At least I thought it was funny

General Surena

General Surena

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Germany

None

W/

Sauron wields a mace, no hammer.

Wait! Did anyone suggest introducing maces yet?

Make'em slow like hammers but one-handed and inflicting concussion/dazed.

The Abbott

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aruthas Gatekeepers

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by KvanCetre
I just hope that all armors are implimented into the game on release and we don't have people wastnig money on 15k armors that looks the same as 1.5 for a while...
yeah like the tormentors for ages

mrbb

mrbb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TekkenIronfist
Ok.. back on track, me summing up this whole topic:

Its almost certain that there will be a new "FoW" type armour.
Those who bought FoW are stupid IF they thought that was 'teh_best_there_ever_will_be'.
FoW armor is just like a new toy and gets old. Like wearing the most fashionable clothes that eventually go out of fashion. Now, if you are willing to buy FoW in Cantha ... be aware that it will eventually be considered 'old', just like Tyria's FoW so you better enjoy it while you can and strut your stuff on the catwalk.

Tobias Funke

Tobias Funke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Following of Xanthar

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Not really missing lyra, think about it. Rangers have scaled armor to protect against fire, fur armor against cold, what kind of animal hide protects against a giant rock?
Turtle shells.

SirJackassIII

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobias Funke
Turtle shells.
Actually, some kind of predator bird (an eagle I think) uses rocks to smash through Turtle Shells, so it wouldn't make sense if Scout's Armour (the one with Shells) would protect against Earth Magic.

Tobias Funke

Tobias Funke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Following of Xanthar

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJackassIII
Actually, some kind of predator bird (an eagle I think) uses rocks to smash through Turtle Shells, so it wouldn't make sense if Scout's Armour (the one with Shells) would protect against Earth Magic.
But do they do that to uber giant turtles who once had giant canons straped to their back?

natus

natus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

siege turtle ranger armor?

Tobias Funke

Tobias Funke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Following of Xanthar

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by natus
siege turtle ranger armor?
$#!% ya.

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

I still don't understand why we should have to be punished for buying an expansion just to make the people that DIDNT buy the expansion feel like .. like.. they are still whatever they feel like they are... Its a new game. so Of course it is going to have better stuff in it. All the way through. why should people that buy it and continue to buy chapters be FORCED to accommodate the lowest common factor from chapter 1? If you do the same then all is still fair. its not like we as saying only Americans get to buy factions and we will have all the armor benefits and no one else in the world can buy it but us so now your all owned... No. everyone can get factions. and have access to what everyone else has. I don't see the problem with there being new elite armor that is an equivalent gold sink as FoW armor was and it having better stats. IE the +5 or more AC that we saw on the 15k armors during the event. I mean I would expect that in all reality... If I ONLY bought Factions and could not get and Equivalent to FoW armor I would be rather pissed. Prob more so then the people that got what they did, and now are regretting it. I guess that's known as buyers remorse. Here is a little tidbit. My Uncle bought a Plasma HD TV back in the late 90s when they were close to $20,000. I just got one at best buy a few months ago for $6000, and now I saw the same dang thing over there for $4000... See... Buyers remorse. Once you own a thing you will always regret getting it when you did as the value of it drops almost the instant you buy it. Same is true in game... Its the way the Free markets work folks.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Ingram - you know the answer. Game balance.

Superior elite armor in Factions would not just be unfair to those with Prophecy only, it would also be unfair to people in Factions who can't afford it!

That's why all armor is "balanced". Now, I suspect there will be new elite armor in Factions will all the Factions bonuses (+HP, MM armor, etc.) But, just like FoW armor, it will be cosmetic changes, not stat changes.

The Abbott

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aruthas Gatekeepers

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
Ingram - you know the answer. Game balance.

Superior elite armor in Factions would not just be unfair to those with Prophecy only, it would also be unfair to people in Factions who can't afford it!

That's why all armor is "balanced". Now, I suspect there will be new elite armor in Factions will all the Factions bonuses (+HP, MM armor, etc.) But, just like FoW armor, it will be cosmetic changes, not stat changes.
i completly agree

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

but how is the game imbalanced for those that support the game. if you feel slighted just go get factions. problem solved. why is this such a bad thing? I personally think that if this is going to be the case I would rather chapter 3 be stand alone 100% and leave the battle Ilse and the rest of PvP behind so we don't get this arguments every 6 months... So every 6 months New game new PvP, NO problem... But unfortunately then you can't take the same character through everything. I'll buy it and take it up the a$$ again if they do it just for this. but I really don't think we as Loyal Supporting customers should be punished for doing the right thing and buying the games while the freeloaders are catered too in order to keep an imaginary balance for only 20% of the game (and or population that does not upgrade). I know I have been put in my place and I know the reason. It just does not seem logical to me that the people paying the most, get the least, through a common denominator of the few that do not support the game. That's all I'm saying.

Fair is fair. Just buy factions like everyone else does. If you don't then play with what you paid for. And others will play with what they paid for. The common denominator SHOULD be the most recent version. meaning whatever is in the most recent version is the standard. there would not be better stuff in previous versions.
If this is not the case then why would ANYONE buy an expansion. Except for PvE explorable areas. So that means PvP will be what it is now for life. and never change. that is not progress, that's stagnation. ok nuff rant. I think my point is rather clear to the developers. I'll shut my big fat mouth now. Continue your flaming...

dtopdawgie

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

Not Half Bad - [NhB]

N/Me

Well I think any new armor will be a nice change. Maybe you can leave your old FoW armor on your prophicies characters and get the new FoW with your assassin or ritualist. Sorry if you feel cheated by already having FoW, but just buy some more, haha. Personally, my favorite armor is my Necromancer 15k female bonelace armor dyed gold, it rocks my socks.

Pi_Numurian

Pi_Numurian

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Numurian Vanguard

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by KvanCetre
I just hope that all armors are implimented into the game on release and we don't have people wastnig money on 15k armors that looks the same as 1.5 for a while...
yeah In the preview I saw no need in buying armor that would be deleted in 3 days

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

Ingram, Loyal customers get access to more skills, more zones to play in, more classes, more slots.

you don't really need better armour than proph to get more.

Anyway fact still remains that the armours seen in Factions were superior to their Proph counterparts in stats and variety of choices.