Remove All R6 And Below

houndofhell93

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

any where i think of

i will tell u if i think it wise

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it has recently come to my attention that in the new halls people will not join or let u in to a party unless u have R3 or hire. I personally just became interested in holding halls. Kinda ran outa things to do lol and im sick of leaving my ability to go uw and fow in the hands of other people. i would like if they removed all R6 and below or R3 and below so that none of the high R9 and R12 would quit holing halls or playing the game at all.

I want something done about this as well as the fact that people are exploiting this opportunity's to get money outa ppl just so they can go in to halls in a decent group.

if they don't remove the ranks or give us a option to report people who as for rank they should at least find out who the people that farm rank for other people are and get them baned.

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

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Originally Posted by houndofhell93
it has recently come to my attention that in the new halls people will not join or let u in to a party unless u have R3 or hire. I personally just became interested in holding halls. Kinda ran outa things to do lol and im sick of leaving my ability to go uw and fow in the hands of other people. i would like if they removed all R6 and below or R3 and below so that none of the high R9 and R12 would quit holing halls or playing the game at all.
At best, that would be a temporary 'solution', as people's ranks will climb up, and so will the 'standards'. If there comes a rank 15-20+, then people will just up the rank you have to be to get into their teams. And whether or not that's even a solution is entirely questionable.

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Originally Posted by houndofhell93
I want something done about this as well as the fact that people are exploiting this opportunity's to get money outa ppl just so they can go in to halls in a decent group.
The same way monks for hire are forcing people to pay them money to get into groups? Nobody's forcing anyone to do it, key word being forcing. As long as there're shortcuts, there're people that will seek them, and there will be people who make a business out of it. It's simply the way things are.

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Originally Posted by houndofhell93
if they don't remove the ranks or give us a option to report people who as for rank they should at least find out who the people that farm rank for other people are and get them baned.
I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind it. Rank is worthless in that it does nothing for you inherently. Only other people's actions give it any meaning. Basically, you're sending out a mixed message by addressing rank.
You're saying-
1) Rank is meaningless, so it shouldn't matter.
2) The only decent teams are ranked ones, and everyone should be able to get into them.

You're saying that you don't like being discriminated against, but then you're also discriminating against your fellow rankless people, by saying they're not decent. How can you hope to fight such discrimination if you practice it yourself?

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Seriously, people should drop the idea that rank = skill. The only thing rank represents, is time spend in tombs. And as a consequence, more familiar with the maps of tombs/heroe's ascent.

As proof that rank =/= skill, something that was posted on a forum:
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I was thinking along the lines of 16 expertise and of course the max in healing prayers(R/Mo). THe low energy cost of spells would allow me to spam them would they not. Not many people would expect a healing ranger either. I have tested this in PVP and went on a 22 win streak before. Im R7 so that might have something to do wiht it but i suggest that some of you try a healing ranger.(not giving away my uber build) : P
The suggestions you posted are simply not an answer, as MA allready said. Play with guild or build a circle of friends, it's the best way.

houndofhell93

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

any where i think of

i will tell u if i think it wise

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no im not saying rank is mening less

im saying its un fair to say u cant join a team becaulse of ur rank it is rank discrimination

and if they are making a profit from it they should stop that to like the people they are trying to prevnt running loranars when they added more enamies

im saying most people dont go above rank 9 unless they are verry skiled and may not like it to mutch if ur remove there rank

by a decent group i mean a group that rutenly holds halls or even gets there and comes to the last round before losing or atleast th second to last round.

houndofhell93

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

any where i think of

i will tell u if i think it wise

R/

1) Rank is meaningless, so it shouldn't matter.[/quote]

no im not discriminating its just that ppl do not obther ot even go get in a group without rank 3 or above

its not mening less its annoying now il be back later

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Wow, seriously unreadable.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

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Originally Posted by houndofhell93
i would like if they removed all R6 and below or R3 and below so that none of the high R9 and R12 would quit holing halls or playing the game at all.
This makes no sense. I want the low ranked players out so the high ranked players can't hold halls?

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if they don't remove the ranks or give us a option to report people who as for rank they should at least find out who the people that farm rank for other people are and get them baned.
Okay, then I'm going to report every power-leveler and person who got a power-level in PvE.

mortalis doleo

mortalis doleo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

my house

The Cutting Edge [TCE]

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you cant report people using rank as an access key to groups, since that was what rank was ment to be (before iway came along).

and where is the post with the healing ranger? i wanna read how people reacted

Dahl

Dahl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Ontario, Canada

Exalted Legionnaires [ExL]

Here's an idea, instead of removing rank...

Strip all fame/rank from anyone who got that rank from IWAY. So say someone got 2465 fame from winning with IWAY, that much should be removed.

IWAY takes no skill, and since it's being "changed" these IWAY noobs will be left with nothing. There will be tons of r9+ people who don't know crap about the game or how to play it due to hiding behind an overpowered build that takes no skill to run.

There's going to be r3 people who have a much greater understanding and skill level than that of r9+ people.

Ironically, the creator of this thread's profession is W/R...Hmm, interesting.

Misc Merik

Misc Merik

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

America

Fugitives of Kurzick (Fok)

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I get so tired of these delete the rank system threads. I started off with no fame and no way of getting "awsome" groups and did in fact "pug". I dealt with the rank elitist crap and put together some solid teams that with alittle practice could take them on and now because of it I have a decent r5 under my belt hoping to hit r6 one of these days. Just because you cant log into HA and have some aura of greatness that makes people want you in their groups doesnt mean you should go make a thread on how so and so doesnt like the fact you dont have a shiny bambi protruding from your chest meaning that everyone else who worked for rank should have it wiped, because you dont get what you want in the first 30 seconds your there. If you really want a rank or chance at it you will tough it out and earn it regardless of the r3+ groups. Imo some of the best groups Ive ever been in were people who were gvging prior to HA and decided to run thier gvg build there and none of them have rank. Some have no fame at all.

SoGosu

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Solo

Mo/

I have all skills unlocked and I'm rank 9, your not. too bad. get over it. stop crying you lil noobs. "Take off all rank, reset this, take that out". STFU all of you. stop bitching cuz everyone came from the same fame/rank. I started with nothing, got kicked from many groups, never spirit spammed, never iwayed. and look at me. noobs go tombs and make ur own groups if you cant. peace niggas

3lite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Texas

N/A

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahl
There's going to be r3 people who have a much greater understanding and skill level than that of r9+ people.
Hehe thats me...r3 ftw xD But yes plz do stop crying...make friends, run with ur guild, run anti iway builds at like 3am central time since there is nothing but iway at taht time ez fame, but ne ways...plz stop crying i got my rank 3 just recently and i didnt iway so its possible...

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

One possible way of dealing with it could be to allow fame to be gained, probably at a slower rate in other arenas or GvG... up to a point. Say, R3.

That way, the Hall of Heroes is still special because that's the only place you can get higher rank, but at least someone new to the HoH but who has had experience in other forms of PvP can demonstrate that they aren't a complete neophyte.

shardfenix

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

Personally, and according to the smartest people in guild wars, rank is the most pointless thing in the world. People who are rank 12 got 90% of their fame from spirit spamming. People who are rank 9 got theirs from spirit spamming, and a little skill. The best players I know are between ranks 3 and 8.
Now that the game is "balanced," A-net should wipe rank from all players and restart so every player is fairly ranked. All of the "best" players in GW have absolutely no skills in pvp, and got nearly all of their fame by exploits and cheating. I wouldn't mind losing my rank 6 in order for every player to be judged on an equal, fair system. When my guild and I make PUGs, we reject rank 9s and above, because our experience is that those players are all idiots who don't know how to do anything except lay spirits. I take unranked players over rank 9s, and usually win with them.

As for your very bad suggestion, no. Do not reset rank unless you reset ALL rank. Rank is already meaningless and elitist as it is, there's no need to delete all the people who werent able to spirit spam like you. The sad part of this is, my air spike groups probably beat you back in the day, when you sucked too much to lay some simple spirits.

Rilder

Rilder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mystic Shadow Soldiers (MSS)

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Rank is deffinatly not working as it should... It should be bragging rights not the only way to get into groups... mabey make /rank only usable in non pvp areas... i'm not against rank itself but its causing to much descrimination and bitterness

tafy69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

N/Me

I got ~3000 fame and would happily see fame get reset.

Personally a fame reset every 3-6 months would be great, for GW as only active HA ppl will be able to get it and using the latest builds therefore reflecting a truer picture of skill.

And with them applying skill balances more often now it would be even better

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

This must be the 10,000th thread about rank discrimination...

a) Yes, new player have it hard to get into teams. That's not the problem of the rank system but it's due to the fact that GW currently has no in game player matching system.

b) Taking rank out the game wouldn't change the fact that people want to play with other people of roughly the same experience or skill. If there's no rank system they will find another way to keep you out of their groups. In fact it could be HARDER to put a group together because most really good players would only play with guild mates or people from their friends lists anymore. If you think you can make Sir Coversman play with you by taking his Phoenix away you must be quite a bit intoxicated.

c) A reset of fame would be besides the point. Rank doesn't show skill anyway (at least not in the sense that you know how to run a certain build), it shows experience and that you know the maps. You can't lose experience, so why taking away the "signs" that you have that experience? Also, a fame reset would of course mean that you can't equal rank to a certain level of experience anymore, thus causing b)

d) Taking away rank gained by IWAY would be utterly unfair since IWAY is a legit build like any other. The fact that it's overused doen't change that.

There DEFINITELY has to be something done about the group forming problem. I really hope, A-net introduces a matching system with Chapter 2. THAT would solve the current situation which is utterly bad for new players.

Dahl

Dahl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Ontario, Canada

Exalted Legionnaires [ExL]

People don't hate IWAY because it's overused.
People hate IWAY because it takes no skill to run, even the newbiest of players can make it to hoh due to it being so overpowered.

yesitsrob

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

I see this turning into another IWAY rant thread... and eventually closed.

Rank doesn't reflect skill - BUT, with that said - _most_ of the time I would say there is a better chance that a rank 6 player is going to be better than an unranked.

But seriously, I've been in groups where so-called rank 8 players have laughed when I've pulled out a sword and a scroll as a monk :\. I promprtly left the group

art_

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

first of all...
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Originally Posted by Makkert

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Originally Posted by alleged r7
I was thinking along the lines of 16 expertise and of course the max in healing prayers(R/Mo). THe low energy cost of spells would allow me to spam them would they not. Not many people would expect a healing ranger either. I have tested this in PVP and went on a 22 win streak before. Im R7 so that might have something to do wiht it but i suggest that some of you try a healing ranger.(not giving away my uber build) : P
Omg! Thats pretty amazing for a r7 (assuming it was a serious comment.) But rank is still useful. Normally when you talk to randomers before entering you can tell if they have never played the build before. For example, 'experienced' bonders who dont use/understand the point of balthazars spirit, and have to be regularly reminded to start bonding.




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it has recently come to my attention that in the new halls people will not join or let u in to a party unless u have R3 or hire. I personally just became interested in holding halls. Kinda ran outa things to do lol and im sick of leaving my ability to go uw and fow in the hands of other people. i would like if they removed all R6 and below or R3 and below so that none of the high R9 and R12 would quit holing halls or playing the game at all.
lololol. Yeah leave all the high ranks alone, but discriminate against those who are just starting win halls...
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Originally Posted by tafy
I got ~3000 fame and would happily see fame get reset.

Personally a fame reset every 3-6 months would be great, for GW as only active HA ppl will be able to get it and using the latest builds therefore reflecting a truer picture of skill.
That would just make pvp even more of a grindfest, because unlike GvG where you lose points for losing, in HA you can only gain fame (not that i believe this to be a bad thing)
Your suggestion would just reward those who never leave their computers, not the 'good' players.

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mabey make /rank only usable in non pvp areas.

:S I doubt they would do that. It would take away much of the alleged point of the rank system in the first place.
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People who are rank 12 got 90% of their fame from spirit spamming. People who are rank 9 got theirs from spirit spamming, and a little skill.
Another reason why wiping all ranks below 6 and none above is a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Dahl
*generic IWAY flame which adds nothing to the debate*
Yah. IWAY is played more successfully by noobs than other builds, but there are also good players who play it; for example i know a group of people who are all at least r6+ who play only IWAY but they play it *extremely* well. To me it is suprising that they can only this build, and not get bored, but i guess you have to respect that people have a right to run whatever build they like and you shouldn't abuse them for it. I mean when does power run anything but spike? and yes he doesnt get the same abuse dished out to MATH etc on these forums. (Ive found some of the (ex)MATH people to be quite rude themselves in-game, but thats a totally separate issue)

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Originally Posted by intelligent individual
One possible way of dealing with it could be to allow fame to be gained, probably at a slower rate in other arenas or GvG... up to a point. Say, R3.

That way, the Hall of Heroes is still special because that's the only place you can get higher rank, but at least someone new to the HoH but who has had experience in other forms of PvP can demonstrate that they aren't a complete neophyte.
I really like this idea, because it means people dont have to IWAY to start pvp because, lets face it, unranked balance groups waste everyone's time. Anet, make it so! ^^

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

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I see this turning into another IWAY rant thread... and eventually closed.
I guess the mods are used to the fact that at this time nobody can open a thread on this forum without some Dahls posting IWAY related bull into it.

Simath

Simath

haha you're dumb

Join Date: Jul 2005

Moscow

Like stated before rank only means how long a person has spent in tombs not his skill. I do not think that rank should be "removed" from the game or that any punishment should be dealt to players that have rank and form rank only groups. Everyone who started HoH had to wait to find good groups until they got their r3. There is obviously not a huge problem here if you step into any district and see "rank _ lfg".

If you want to be able to get a good group for HoH try finding a guild that is based on HoH. You have to work for you rank. It doesn't just come to you.

Almighty Zi

Almighty Zi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Cheltenham, England

Servants Of Fortuna Victrix

I sympathise with you. It is very hard finding groups if you are new to HoH and that's because groups will want experienced players because they want to win. Unfortunately, removing rank won't change this fact.

I would recommend against looking for PuGs in HA as you will most likely only be invited into random teams and by persons in a similar situation to yours. My advice would be to find a freindly guild that has experienced players that aren't shy to let newer PvPers team up with them. Also, try and play with the same players in the guild each time and start off with a role that you are comfortable with within a single team build. Get to know this role and you will soon be able to play it effectively and with confidence regardless of your rank at that stage. If you can show that you know how to play a role effective then this beats flashing a deer/wolf/tiger/phoenix/yak in my opinion.

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Originally Posted by Almighty Zi
I would recommend against looking for PuGs in HA as you will most likely only be invited into random teams and by persons in a similar situation to yours.
If there is a decent guild to take new players in and train them, it's definitely the easiest way to get into HA. In case a PvP guild is not an option for whatever reason, I just wanted to add that it's definitely possible to get to R3 by playing in PUGs. Some of them will be horrible, but sometimes they win games, too. Add the good and nice players to your friends list and work from there. It's slower and harder than a PvP guild, but it's perfectly doable.

In case you want to give the PUGs a shot, I'd recommend looking up the current most popular builds here on GWG and learn how to play them. Maybe chose some roles you'd like to play in these builds. Advertise yourself looking specifically for these builds with your role, then (like "ranger spiker LF ranger spike team - have TS/Vent/mic" or so). It works a LOT better then just yelling "LFG" and you get to play in builds that are proven to work.

And maybe, just maybe, Anet helps a bit by adding a player matching system to HA..

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

Remove R6 and below... mmm... sounds like a nice way to piss off thousands of people.

xb0vv

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Thats life, higher ranked people hold halls more because they are simply better and more experienced, all rank does is show this to other people by an emote, no need to change the system.

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

Let's strip everyone with anything less than FoW armour of all their items while we're at it..
A seriously illogical thread.

Peewee

Peewee

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, England

I Uprising I [RAGE]

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lets not have a IWAY rant eh?

I think a good suggestion is a positive reward to using different builds. Perhaps if GW monitered what builds you used, and then gave you bonus points for changing frequently. Perhaps a little in practical. Another thing is perhaps having a HoH etc utterly honed towards balanced games. The rule would be no more than 2 of one primary proffesion in a game. This takes out ranger spike, necro spike etc, and IWAY, and promotes more 'balanced teams'

To me, my rank 1 is a great as an fame farmers rank 3. I never ever do unbalanced builds, and i think i have a great deal more knowledge, and possible skill than a great proportion of R3. As a result i count faction above fame, as it realy shows experience better. (i am new to HoH, but somewhat of a veteran in GvG)

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Originally Posted by Peewee
lets not have a IWAY rant eh?

I think a good suggestion is a positive reward to using different builds. Perhaps if GW monitered what builds you used, and then gave you bonus points for changing frequently. Perhaps a little in practical. Another thing is perhaps having a HoH etc utterly honed towards balanced games. The rule would be no more than 2 of one primary proffesion in a game. This takes out ranger spike, necro spike etc, and IWAY, and promotes more 'balanced teams'

To me, my rank 1 is a great as an fame farmers rank 3. I never ever do unbalanced builds, and i think i have a great deal more knowledge, and possible skill than a great proportion of R3. As a result i count faction above fame, as it realy shows experience better. (i am new to HoH, but somewhat of a veteran in GvG)
a) Let people use whatever build they feel like. If the build is unbalanced, A-net can and will take care of it. There is no need to regulate what classes people should bring into the game. And partcularly there is no need to replace IWAY boredom with just another build that 90% of all people will use, even if it's a "balanced" one.

b) Faction does show a general experience in PvP, nothing more, nothing less. Rank does show general experience in PvP plus that you know the maps in HA. So, Rank > Faction, IMO. I agree that a good GvG player will most likely be a good HA player as well (probably vice versa, too, but I don't really know since I never do GvG). Unfortunately, there is no way you can show your GvG prowess to other people via an emote. On the other way, if you are experienced in GvG, you shouldn't have any trouble to rank up quickly, anyway.

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

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LOL, wow nice request wipe out rank 6 and down. I mean hope you Iwayed enough for your tiger to not get hit by your own rank stick. Ridiculous idea, to wipe out rank. *hands a tissue* For your long typing.

Many people who don't Iway have many friends who are great players and can play the many builds and build back up. Or iway friends only do Iway cause the guild isn't do anything. Rank will build up again one way or another.

IF, your not able to join groups, why fret if you want your rank and fame so bad make your own group. Whats stopping you from grabbing 7 more people do a build and win HOH. Sadly if you don't try it yourself and only rant about ranked groups your going no where on gaining fame.


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Posted BY:HellofHound93

I want something done about this as well as the fact that people are exploiting this opportunity's to get money outa ppl just so they can go in to halls in a decent group.

if they don't remove the ranks or give us a option to report people who as for rank they should at least find out who the people that farm rank for other people are and get them baned.
O damn, i just read this little bit. Gee gee.. What money??? People are explioting HOH for gold thats a new one. Nver heard of groups expecting money to join. Lets see and balance gold for letting someone join or letting someone join who is a complete new person for his gold and kicking him from the party.

I AGREE, report those farming fame damn those people. I shall screenshot them all and show to everyone whose farming fame. Dude, that's sad again, report those farming fame.. THAT'S EVERYONE whose doing HOH.

Your new to PVP it seems and HOH get used to it, don't need anymore ranters on rank.

houndofhell93

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

any where i think of

i will tell u if i think it wise

R/

im not saying remove it so high peolpe dont play any more im saying rmove the low rank people that ask for other people's rank but that way the hight rank players will not get mad

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by houndofhell93
im not saying remove it so high peolpe dont play any more im saying rmove the low rank people that ask for other people's rank but that way the hight rank players will not get mad
This doesn't make any sense, but then again, the whole thread doesn't...

Almighty Zi

Almighty Zi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Cheltenham, England

Servants Of Fortuna Victrix

As I've said previously, people will always want their party members to have some degree of experience so that they stand a better chance of winning halls. Rank is an ok indicator of experience as it shows how much time someone has spent in HA/HoH, however, it does not show how skilled a player is - that can only be demonstrated by the player in game.

If you remove rank then folk will want some other means by which they can judge people's experience so this won't solve your problem. Find a PvP guild that is willing to show you the ropes.

As for these folk asking for cash to farm fame for rankless players, I have never seen this nor even heard of it. If it does go on then you would have to be a fool to pay to join one of these parties so you would only have yourself to blame. Stay away from these shysters and follow the advice of the nice friendly people on these forums.

Good luck to ya.

Tainek

Tainek

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Rage]

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Originally Posted by Dahl
People don't hate IWAY because it's overused.
People hate IWAY because it takes no skill to run, even the newbiest of players can make it to hoh due to it being so overpowered.
i think someones just sore about having his ass handed to him by a skilled (yes, iway does take skill to run effectivly) IWAY team...

i think the rank system is fine as it is, sure it takes a long while to get to rank 3, but after that its a fairly effective means of sorting Experianced players from unexperianced players

Blessed Winds

Blessed Winds

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Panda Land. It's wonderful.

PLU (Panda Lovers UNITED)

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Originally Posted by SoGosu
I have all skills unlocked and I'm rank 9, your not. too bad. get over it. stop crying you lil noobs. "Take off all rank, reset this, take that out". STFU all of you. stop bitching cuz everyone came from the same fame/rank. I started with nothing, got kicked from many groups, never spirit spammed, never iwayed. and look at me. noobs go tombs and make ur own groups if you cant. peace niggas
Somebody's a little moody -.-

Personally, I don't care about what they do to rank, I just wish people themselves would stop inviting only r3+ people, because players who entered Guild Wars a few months after IWAY was made, have no hope of getting into a group alone. That would be me.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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FYI - Gaile mentioned that changes to the skills this week should make Iway less common (but not removal). Not saying nerfing iway skills but hinting at making usless skills usefull again.

What I'm curious about did iWay cause R3 only or was it common before hand.

In a nut shell, was Iway the catalyst for "up" R3+ only invites on a huge scale due to how easier (compared to the past) Iway was to get rank or was it always this way.

Klmpee

Klmpee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Florida USA :)

[Anti]

W/E

no no no and NOO!!

yea im gonna report everyone that asks me to show my rank because i cant get into their group because i have none! ANET this is no fair because its just no fair!!thats how you sound... i mean really. it is SOOO easy to make a ranked team even if you are not ranked! i have put together rank 6 teams and i wasnt rank 6! you just dont show them that your not rank 6!

~Ways around rank system~

~~Cheat the system. dont complain about the system! Find ways to cheat the system!!
~~Get into a pvp guild or make a pvp guild and recruit r3 memebrs even if your not rank 3!!

instead of complaining about people that have the rank and ask for rank, find solutions around rank..
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I have all skills unlocked and I'm rank 9, your not. too bad. get over it. stop crying you lil noobs. "Take off all rank, reset this, take that out". STFU all of you. stop bitching cuz everyone came from the same fame/rank. I started with nothing, got kicked from many groups, never spirit spammed, never iwayed. and look at me. noobs go tombs and make ur own groups if you cant. peace niggas
Thats the most true thing ive ever heard! we all started at 0 fame. you (person that started thread) decided to pve. They (person qouted) decided to skip pve and learn pvp.. in a sense its ur fault for starting late in pvp and not having that fame to get into the groups.

~trying not to flame you,
Klmpee

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Originally Posted by Klmpee
no no no and NOO!!

yea im gonna report everyone that asks me to show my rank because i cant get into their group because i have none!
LOL - Yeah, they will love you for reporting people who don't break any rules.

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Originally Posted by Klmpee
ANET this is no fair because its just no fair!!thats how you sound... i mean really. it is SOOO easy to make a ranked team even if you are not ranked! i have put together rank 6 teams and i wasnt rank 6! you just dont show them that your not rank 6!
Good for you that you have found some stupid people. Whenever I get asked to emote, I will ask every other player in the group to do the same...

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Originally Posted by Klmpee
~Ways around rank system~

~~Cheat the system. dont complain about the system! Find ways to cheat the system!!
~~Get into a pvp guild or make a pvp guild and recruit r3 memebrs even if your not rank 3!!
You find rank discrimation unfair, but you don't seem to have any remote sense of fairness yourself...

Klmpee

Klmpee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Florida USA :)

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So cheating the system isn fair? thats how most of my friends GOT their rank.

I never ask the tam leader to show rank.. i don know about your teams but... if i think hes rank 3 or 6 then he is.

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Originally Posted by Klmpee
So cheating the system isn fair? thats how most of my friends GOT their rank.
I am actually proud that I got my rank and kept my honor while doing so... I got into many ranked groups while I was unranked, but I told them in every single instance that I was unranked.

Was getting that emote hard? Yes, it was. Is the fact that HA is hard for new players an excuse for lying to other people? No, it's not. I don't respect scammers, neither in HA, nor elsewhere. I certainly don't want to play either with you or your friends if THAT's the way you ranked up.

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Originally Posted by Klmpee
I never ask the tam leader to show rank.. i don know about your teams but... if i think hes rank 3 or 6 then he is.
My rule is that either the team is offically unranked and nobody shows an emote at all or the team is officially ranked and all show their emote, no exceptions.

Why would I trust the team leader to have an emote as long as I haven't seen it? You know, you're certainly not the only liar in HA...