I think this is a new Shield..

Jammy

Jammy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

If you cant see the pic, its a Max Gold Ornate Buckler req 10 Tactics and the bonus is dmg -5 (15%) Which is dam good. Can someone tell me if this is new or not.

Thanks.

Sephy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Yes it is.

clark_wilson

clark_wilson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Minny

Mo/

Yes it is new, the max is 20%.

Jammy

Jammy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Wow, -5 20% chance, where do you get these?

Tsunami Rain

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

Doesn't seem very new...However, the chances of getting nice stats like that is VERY rare

--edit--
someone was selling a -5 15% earlier today so idk maybe it is.
--edit--
on second thought never mind it wasnt req10 though

clark_wilson

clark_wilson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Minny

Mo/

It is new, part of the recent updates. They also made a +30 health, -5 20% shield for PvP. So think of getting a +45(anything), -5 damage 20% shield that had req 10 or less. Amazing. . .

Jammy

Jammy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Wow...that sounds awesome. gotta get me 1 of them

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by clark_wilson
So think of getting a +45(anything)
Actually, max for while hexed is now +60.

schutz

schutz

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

wales

W/Me

Its not awesome, its 20% which is the equivalent of -1 stance/enchanted and theres chances it might work less or more than the % but over all it really isnt worth it, there nothing great

deuz machina

deuz machina

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Project Luna

W/N

i have a +56 while hexed shadow shield, not bad, too bad it's req11

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

has crappy -1/-2 (2-10% chance) ones been removed from the game?

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Now -2/-2 is not the best shield anymore.

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

Yep, Skuld ...

<-- is unfortunately still sporting a gold skeleton shield -2 stance -3 chance 9%

And of course I have the obligatory crimson carapace shield as well (for function > fashion)

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

It's a -1 constant over the course of a battle. I'd prefer the conditional to that to be honest.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dgb
It's a -1 constant over the course of a battle. I'd prefer the conditional to that to be honest.
/agree

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Regardless, they need to update the while hexed Crimson Carapace to match the pvp stats.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

yes plz ^

and yes I think I'd prefer

-2(stance) -5(20%)

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

-2 damage (In stance) and -5 damage (20%) on the same shield would be godly.

Falcon213

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

I need to get one of those +60 while hexed shield for running southern shiverpeaks. They may have nerfed Lietenants helm and holy viel, but at least they added this to help ease the pain.

clark_wilson

clark_wilson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Minny

Mo/

By saying +45(anything) I was referring to the good style ones, such as Enchanted and Stance, while Hexed is terrible.

Alexi Zingforger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

[DW] Drunken Warriors

E/

At 20%, you have a 1/5 chance of taking 5 less damage, whereas with a -2 in stance/enchanted shield, you will take a total -10 damage from 5 attacks.

It's good if you get it tagged to another damage reduction mod.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Quote:
Originally Posted by clark_wilson
By saying +45(anything) I was referring to the good style ones, such as Enchanted and Stance, while Hexed is terrible.
While Hexed mod is terrible? Then why was the Denravi Helm ever useful at all? You're almost ALWAYS hexed.

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

It's worse than the conditional -damage reduction, and Victo's Bulwark / a -2/-2 is still the best shield depending on your purposes. However, a lot of players are terrible at math and *love* procs, so I'm sure this is going to be popular.

Peace,
-CxE

Y.T.

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

ohhh the number of possible stat combinations on random gold/purple shield has been improved greatly. mb this is the answer to the extremely high demand for -2/-2 shields, but lots of warrior builds're going to benefit from the change...

and of cos maxed new shield (-5/20%) is going to cost alot

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Just wondering, where'd you get this..? Or is this just ever where..

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
It's worse than the conditional -damage reduction, and Victo's Bulwark / a -2/-2 is still the best shield depending on your purposes. However, a lot of players are terrible at math and *love* procs, so I'm sure this is going to be popular.

Peace,
-CxE
I would think a -5(20%)/-2 (enchanted) is better than -2/-2 for someone who doesn't use stances, right?

thunderpower

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Europe

KiSS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
It's worse than the conditional -damage reduction, and Victo's Bulwark / a -2/-2 is still the best shield depending on your purposes. However, a lot of players are terrible at math and *love* procs, so I'm sure this is going to be popular.

Peace,
-CxE
Agree. The 20% chance refers to every single hit you take.
Any1 who used a caster with a 20/20 or just 20% (recharge or cast) knows how this works.

So... plain and simple. Regrding the post that stated that the -5 (20% chance) gives an average of -1 / hit is wrong.
You can get 0 average reduction in 5 hits, but you can get -25 if you're lucky. Now, if you extend it to 100 hits or 1000 hits, you might get the -1 average

clark_wilson

clark_wilson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Minny

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher
While Hexed mod is terrible? Then why was the Denravi Helm ever useful at all? You're almost ALWAYS hexed.
hmm let me think, because you use it when you are Running. The HOD helm isn't even that good anymore because its now 20% reduction. If you think hexed is better than enchanted or while stanced, then that is sad.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Quote:
Originally Posted by clark_wilson
hmm let me think, because you use it when you are Running. The HOD helm isn't even that good anymore because its now 20% reduction. If you think hexed is better than enchanted or while stanced, then that is sad.
I love how people can't discuss anything without losing their temper the way you do. No, I dont run. And there is no "better" anything. It all depends on your build.

If you dont use enchantments or stances then you're left with the hexed shield as your best option. Now, almost every good warrior uses stances.... but there's also a use for having that extra 60HP for when you're hexed. I sure dont need to have extra HP whenever I'm in stance. I mostly get hexed to death as a warrior so that +60 is a bit of a help.

Just because you don't have a use for it doesnt mean others dont have a use for it. Such narrow minded thinking you have.

tobash

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderpower
Agree. The 20% chance refers to every single hit you take.
Any1 who used a caster with a 20/20 or just 20% (recharge or cast) knows how this works.

So... plain and simple. Regrding the post that stated that the -5 (20% chance) gives an average of -1 / hit is wrong.
You can get 0 average reduction in 5 hits, but you can get -25 if you're lucky. Now, if you extend it to 100 hits or 1000 hits, you might get the -1 average
Well the chance of having 5 hits in a row being reduced by -5 is 0.00032, on a average you will expect it to have -1 damage reduction.

So it is right that you can expect -1 damage reduction per hit on average if you divide the per hits with the damage reduced

Mr.H.Mishima

Mr.H.Mishima

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Summit of Human Evolution

W/

-2 Stance/-3 Hexed? Nobody else have one?

pearhk

pearhk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Asia

Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
I would think a -5(20%)/-2 (enchanted) is better than -2/-2 for someone who doesn't use stances, right?
do u mean "IF" ?

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hells Last Survivor
-2 Stance/-3 Hexed? Nobody else have one?
Pretty sure those don't exist, those two mods are part of the same 'pool' for whatever reason. You can only get -2 enchanted/-2 stance and -2 enchanted/-3 hexed.

If you don't use a stance or enchantment just take an unconditional shield. Only time I'd use a while hexed shield is if I was playing PvE and was choosing the mobs I'm fighting very carefully. It's kinda interesting as a shield to swap to but certainly not as a main.

Peace,
-CxE

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
It's kinda interesting as a shield to swap to but certainly not as a main.
Of course. It's the same reason I have a blind reduction shield as well. I'd never use the blind reduction shield as my main either, only when blinded of course. My beef was with the guy who couldnt see that it can have a purpose.

Sab

Sab

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
Pretty sure those don't exist, those two mods are part of the same 'pool' for whatever reason. You can only get -2 enchanted/-2 stance and -2 enchanted/-3 hexed.
Actually -2 ench/-3 hex is the one that doesn't exist, I have a -2 stance/-3 hex right here.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hells Last Survivor
-2 Stance/-3 Hexed? Nobody else have one?


dr1zz one

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/



nice eternal!

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

I too use the -2 stance, -3 Hexed shield quite often.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

i still prefer the -2/-2 or -2/-3

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
I would think a -5(20%)/-2 (enchanted) is better than -2/-2 for someone who doesn't use stances, right?
Hence he said 'depending on your purposes'.