Level 1 guy at Nolani Academy??? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Dwiggit

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Heroes Unlimited (HaCK)

R/Mo

19 May 2005 at 16:13 - 1

I was playing with some friends last night and there was a level 1 character running around Nolani Academy trying to join every group. Of course, he kept getting rejected because nobody wanted a dead hunk of meat on their team. (He was getting fairly angry and rude too.)

My question is: How the heck does someone make it to Nolani Academy and STILL be level 1?????

I thought you had to be level 3 or so just to go Post-Sear. Has this changed?

Also, is it possible to reach Nolani without doing the quests? The quests alone should have leveled him up quite a bit.

My only reasoning is that he joined a higher level group that walked all the way from Post-Sear Ascalon to Nolani and fought the battles for him. That still doesn't explain getting to Post-Sear.

Is this possible at all? Or is some sort of cheating going on???

Dwig

Spooky

Bokusatsu Tenshi

Join Date: Dec 2004

Bellevue, WA

KEA

E/Mo

19 May 2005 at 16:19 - 2

The only requirement to leaving PSA now is that you have two professions - this person most likely had someone running them through the EAs. All you have to do is stand around at the entrance while someone else sprints through, when they zone into the next area, you automatically get dragged along.

ZennZero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

R/

19 May 2005 at 16:19 - 3

I have heard of a guy who hit the ascension quest and went from lvl 3 -> 20. Supposedly he had a high level friend carry him through and he just stayed out of the way. I heard this in-game though, so who knows how reliable it is.

JohnCoke

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

19 May 2005 at 16:20 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZennZero

I have heard of a guy who hit the ascension quest and went from lvl 3 -> 20. Supposedly he had a high level friend carry him through and he just stayed out of the way. I heard this in-game though, so who knows how reliable it is.

It's reliable, trust me. I think she posted it on guild-hall.net forums.. can take a gander there.

Mountain Man

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

N/E

19 May 2005 at 16:24 - 5

A level 1 would get totally raped in Post-Sear. Of course nobody wanted him.

Dwiggit

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Heroes Unlimited (HaCK)

R/Mo

19 May 2005 at 16:29 - 6

So I guess it TECHNICALLY possible, but you sure have to try hard. He would still have received xp from any friends fighting for him, even if he did stay at the entrance point.

I guess I was unaware of the Post-Sear rules changes. My bad on that one!

I'm not sure of the gameplay value of doing that. Nobody wants to group with you. It must be a weird personal goal or something.

Dwig

Mercury Angel

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

19 May 2005 at 16:32 - 7

It's completely feasible.
While I was level 20 before ascension anyway, even post ascension, I helped drag friends to different places quickly that they might not have managed alone.

Illusion of Haste + Mantra of Frost + Illusion of Weakness and I got us to Marhaan's Grotto through droves of those ice-element imps with little trouble at all. (poor little mesmer me, and I still managed it >.>)

And friends have done the same for me, when I had no clue where somewhere was, I could just AFK and let them take me there.

To the extreme, with a devoted friend/partner, I could imagine doing it all with ease. And I've skipped 2 missions before being lost through explorable areas, so that's pretty easy to manage as well.

Can't imagine trying to fight your mirror self still at a low level though, unless you had highly self destructive skills, although how you'd get them at a low level without completing many quests or missions to get them, once again, doesn't seem quite so easy.

However, easy and impossible are far from the same.

Vindexus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

www.talkingtonoobs.com

Final Dynasty

19 May 2005 at 16:35 - 8

I have a level 2 character in Amnoon Oasis. I got rushed there by guildies and waiting for them to do the ascension missions for me.

Dwiggit

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Heroes Unlimited (HaCK)

R/Mo

19 May 2005 at 17:01 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vindexus

I have a level 2 character in Amnoon Oasis. I got rushed there by guildies and waiting for them to do the ascension missions for me.

Just curious, what satisfaction do you find in doing this?

I just want to understand, no flame intended.

Dwig

Zfactor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

NYC

Freelance

Mo/E

19 May 2005 at 17:09 - 10

Nothing I hate more than a low level character towards the ascention and in ascention missions that I constantly have to heal because they not only are leaching, but decide they can tank at level 15 with default armor.

WeiPing

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

19 May 2005 at 17:11 - 11

How is it possible for such a low level to defeat the mirror?

Mirror is always level 20, right?

And if you can't do that, you can't ascend...right?

JohnCoke

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

19 May 2005 at 17:17 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeiPing

How is it possible for such a low level to defeat the mirror?

Mirror is always level 20, right?

And if you can't do that, you can't ascend...right?

Answering two questions with this:

Satisfaction---not having to repeat yourself and only need PvP

Mirror-- I don't know about the guy at level 2 in Amnoon, but she just pulled the ole trick of tap him with Empathy. Then dodge the arrows till he kills himself.

Guess it depends on profession... be interesting how a Warrior/Ranger would do it.

Sendai

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

19 May 2005 at 20:57 - 13

to leave pre-sear Ascalon you MUST be lvl 3 (the warmaster doesn't let you enter the academy otherwise).

I tend to think that lvl 1 Character outside Pre-Seared Ascalon are the Devs (i saw Voxy Voo one time at the Temple of the Ages (Necro lvl1))

PieXags

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Infinite Representation Of Pie And Its Many Brilliances

19 May 2005 at 21:23 - 14

It may have been a bug, I had someone ask to join my party once, said they were lvl one in the info, so I rejected the invitation. Then I got a pm asking why I rejected, and they explained that they were lvl 12. When I accepted them into my party, turns out they were lvl 12 and it was just a bug.

Luggage

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

sweden

19 May 2005 at 21:32 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sendai

to leave pre-sear Ascalon you MUST be lvl 3 (the warmaster doesn't let you enter the academy otherwise).

This has been changed, you only need to have two professions.
The only mission you have to finish is Sanctum Key, the rest you can proceed through explorables.

There is a thread with screenshoots and discussion about this in the Guild Hall forums.

Synthos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

19 May 2005 at 22:02 - 16

Its really quite easy and you can do the run with henchman, Ive ran directly to Nolani several times. Ive actually walked to yacks bend before without doing any missions

Crom the Conqueror

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

New York

Rage Three D

W/E

19 May 2005 at 22:25 - 17

I done it once, I helped a lvl4 get from ascalon city all the way to lion's arch.

Phauran

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

19 May 2005 at 23:03 - 18

one would think that the missions would automaticly boost u up pretty high, i dont think its possible to be at amoon at lvl 2

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

20 May 2005 at 01:30 - 19

If you had a high level friend carry you from Ascalon all the way through ascension, technically the ONLY mission you would HAVE to do would be Sanctum Cay, and the ascension quests. I find this completely and totally... ridiculous. are there truly people THAT lazy who want to be max level as quick as they can just so they can be at the top with everyone else? Personally you lose out on so many skills and skill points, not even a level 20 with basic skills could survive in some areas. It's simply ludacris and... well frankly a bit annoying that it can be done for the lazy players... They would still have to do everything anyway, so why not actually level up? It seems sort of funny, and abit like a 'cheat' so to speak, you gain all of those attribute points and become maxe level in a short time having someone run you though.

Just my random thoughts, sorry if I seem ranty... Long day, tired, Star Wars III, Ortho, etc etc.

Roken

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Jacksonville, Florida (US)

Corpse Ecstacy[Crps]

N/R

20 May 2005 at 02:28 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adaria

If you had a high level friend carry you from Ascalon all the way through ascension, technically the ONLY mission you would HAVE to do would be Sanctum Cay, and the ascension quests. I find this completely and totally... ridiculous. are there truly people THAT lazy who want to be max level as quick as they can just so they can be at the top with everyone else? Personally you lose out on so many skills and skill points, not even a level 20 with basic skills could survive in some areas. It's simply ludacris and... well frankly a bit annoying that it can be done for the lazy players... They would still have to do everything anyway, so why not actually level up? It seems sort of funny, and abit like a 'cheat' so to speak, you gain all of those attribute points and become maxe level in a short time having someone run you though.

Just my random thoughts, sorry if I seem ranty... Long day, tired, Star Wars III, Ortho, etc etc.

Well said, Adaria. You miss out on so many things. Why would you want to just jump to 20 in RPG? Makes no sense. You don't get any skills or anything.

Mario 64 Master

wats going on

Join Date: Jan 2005

Trumbull, Connecticut

Nuclear Launch Detected [Nu]

W/Mo

20 May 2005 at 02:39 - 21

You're not missing out on anything if you have already played through the pve once. And for the people who don't care about the pve at all... what does it matter if they miss everything? All they want to do is get to level 20 as fast as possible so they can unlock some good skills and be competitive in pvp.

Anarchy 2k

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

20 May 2005 at 02:45 - 22

It was done by my Guildmate, LuLu. Level 1-20 in under 6 hours, (5 hours, 20 min to be exact.) We ran him through because it was his second character and it's pointless to spend 100'ish hours doing missions to ascend a second time just to unlock a decent pallet (40+ skills) for another dual class PvP character.

This story is indeed true, he actually ascended at lvl 3 by wand dancing with the mirror self and casting empathy.

Yes, you may not have those skills at ascension, but you can go back at lvl 20 and do all those quests oh so much faster. It's really time saving if you've already played through the game and explored all the areas/done all the missions/quests and don't want to do them ALL again while spending the time to upgrade at the citys, yada yada yada.

We're working on another project, which no doubt will shock and astound the community at how such a low level can get there. Hopefully you'll find out within the next couple weeks.

Shaubarak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

20 May 2005 at 03:01 - 23

You don't even need to ascend, you can walk to beacon's perch and down through lornar's pass, and into the south shiverpeaks missions that you can complete to get to fire island. Could probably get there with a lvl 2/3...

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

20 May 2005 at 03:02 - 24

I'm guessing it has something to do with going to Fissure of Woe or the Underworld, since after Ascension, that is all there is left as far as the 'veteran' areas are concerned...

Even if you've been through the game once, its ok to be babysat so to speak but to rush through that fast, what kind of appreciation for new classes do you get doing that? None, none whatsoever. You can gauge a classes strengths and weaknesses best by actually playing the character and levelling up, but then again there are those that don't care and are pure PvP, then fine, they can go make a PvP character and be level 20 right off the bat, earn the skills and runes in PvE with another character that they have to level up.

Personally, I hope the devs find a way to stop this sort of super-fast-leveling, sure its ok for secondary characters, but you cannot honestly sit here and say to everyone here that there are not first time players, that have friends who have ascended already, who just want to breeze through the game in a snap because they're used to having everything thanks to cheat codes or just used to having an upper hand at something...

Just an opinion as always, but bluntly true, because surely there IS one of those types out there...

Bast

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

20 May 2005 at 21:30 - 25

Why do you care what other people do? Play the game your way and leave them alone.

Mawgleah

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Angry Souls

Me/E

20 May 2005 at 22:10 - 26

I'd have to agree with Bast. No one is forced to play with a low level player, so why would anyone care how someone got to a particular point in the game. I've gotten to Frost Gate trying to do all the quests and missions (the only quest I have right now is Althea's Ashes...don't know if I'll ever finish that one), but I'm one of those who enjoy the journey. There are probably those who, like my husband, aren't interested in the journey....just how fast they can get there. We don't all have to be the same or like the same things, but we should tolerate other's differences even if we don't agree with their way of thinking.

RonGyver

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

20 May 2005 at 23:16 - 27

my friends and I always do this for each other so we get the bette armor for our 3rd or 4th char's. We stil like to lvl on out own to see how the new char is so i dont see any harm in it if you have already lv'ed to 20 with your main, and its really non of my buisness how others play the game unless there in a party and they suck but thats a easy fix as well. Replace

RonGyver

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

20 May 2005 at 23:33 - 28

sorry for the spelling......to much coffee and a crappy keyboard

Tigris Of Gaul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

14 Aug 2005 at 19:11 - 30

You can be level 1 far past Nolani Academy...

Probably level 1 at the Ring of Fire.

Kaylynn Of Ascalon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

California

14 Aug 2005 at 19:27 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by PieXags

It may have been a bug, I had someone ask to join my party once, said they were lvl one in the info, so I rejected the invitation. Then I got a pm asking why I rejected, and they explained that they were lvl 12. When I accepted them into my party, turns out they were lvl 12 and it was just a bug.

its not a bug and never was a bug. what you saw was a char with a long name. when ever a char with a long name has a level of 10 or higher the second number usually goes missing. so you see a Level 2 in amoon, but in reality its a level 20 char with a name that takes up too much space. I have seen this many many times.

Dead Panda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

N/Me

14 Aug 2005 at 22:14 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZennZero

I have heard of a guy who hit the ascension quest and went from lvl 3 -> 20. Supposedly he had a high level friend carry him through and he just stayed out of the way. I heard this in-game though, so who knows how reliable it is.

I don't think it's possible. My ranger has about 90k of xp and she's only lvl 18.

Soiled Egg Roll

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ripon, Wisconsin

IVEX

Mo/

14 Aug 2005 at 22:25 - 33

They changed what ascension meant. Before, it would automatically make you level 20. Now it gives you 50k exp.

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

14 Aug 2005 at 22:25 - 34

I have seen sreenshotof a level 1 R/Mes in the Daknors Forge arena with just the basic skills from pre.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

14 Aug 2005 at 22:53 - 35

i was level 3 at droknars on my 2nd character

ManadartheHealer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Awaiting GW2

W/

14 Aug 2005 at 22:53 - 36

I saw a level 2 at Ring of Fire

varyag

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wrath of Nature [Fury]

Me/Mo

14 Aug 2005 at 23:01 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bast

Why do you care what other people do? Play the game your way and leave them alone.

She considers it to be a duty of every person who purchases GuildWars to go through PvE with every new profession they want to explore. She expects and demands everyone to play the game Her way. She doesn't recognize that some people don't actualy like most of the missions and doesn't respect their opinion. She cannot accept the fact that some people find the missions poorly written and badly scripted - like some disney family movie that only small kids can watch.

What is worse - she cannot seem to combrehend that for some people GW isn't everything in life - and wasting time on skillgrind to prepare to enjoy GvG with friends is a horrible prospect!

Everyone must bow down to Gaile... err ...Adaria's playing style.

I have some news for your Adaria.

You are a Griefer.

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

14 Aug 2005 at 23:02 - 38

Nobody else realises that his is a 2 month old thread that got ressurected?

Hardly any of these people still post on the forums O.o

P Shizzle

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Legion of Dark Chaos

N/Me

14 Aug 2005 at 23:11 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury Angel

It's completely feasible.
While I was level 20 before ascension anyway, even post ascension, I helped drag friends to different places quickly that they might not have managed alone.

Illusion of Haste + Mantra of Frost + Illusion of Weakness and I got us to Marhaan's Grotto through droves of those ice-element imps with little trouble at all. (poor little mesmer me, and I still managed it >.>)

Um.... Illusion of Weakness is 100% pointless you lose ABC health and you gain ABC health. It would make sence if you lose ABC health and you gain ABCD health but you lose and gain the same amount so its like nothing happened

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

15 Aug 2005 at 02:51 - 40

I hate griefers, and making me do missions or making me wait ages for a faction update is a form of griefing.

theVariable

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

CA, USA

Knights of the Hokuten [KotH] (hokuten.org)

Mo/Me

15 Aug 2005 at 03:10 - 41

I took a level 1 Monk to ToA, because I was bored and I wanted some rejection. In the end, it was a waste of time and I wasted a black dye to get run there, but I had a few laughs...

And this thread is really old, let it die...