I see this a lot. People announce they want a group and then go on to clarify they don't want morons, idiots, noobs, etc. What are they thinking?
Do people actually believe that by saying this, some player will think to himself, "gee, I would like to have joined that group but I can't because I am a moron and they don't accept morons."
Or do people think that by saying this, they are somehow elevating themselves and dismissing the possibility that they themselves are a moron, idiot, noob or whatever? Are they really trying to say "I am a superior player?" If so, saying it doesn't make it so, and it doesn't come across that way.
Instead, when I see someone yell out "LFG - no morons" I hear:
"I am an immature person. I have no concept of teamwork and no tact. I have an inflated ego. I blame other people for anything that doesn't go my way. I don't work well with others and will be an annoyance in the group."
I never invite people to groups who do this. I don't join groups who do this. In my opinion anyone who yells "LFG - no morons" has already disqualified themself ...
"LFG - no morons" - Odd way of making friends
Redfang
WeiPing
Agreed. I'd never join a group that announced itself in that manner.
Jackell
Agree. I've found that those are the people who will scream at you if you make a mistake, or scream at you if they make a mistake and you can't cover for them. Basically, I see it as a filter. When trying to find people I want to play with, I'm glad they've put those shouts out, so that I know not to play with them.
Favorite: I lost Elona twice. The first was my fault, the second wasn't. Aggitated, I join one of those groups, and the person who put that shout out tells us "Try to keep up." And proceeds to charge headfirst into the large group of minotaurs, before our monk had even loaded in.
Favorite: I lost Elona twice. The first was my fault, the second wasn't. Aggitated, I join one of those groups, and the person who put that shout out tells us "Try to keep up." And proceeds to charge headfirst into the large group of minotaurs, before our monk had even loaded in.
Jana
Ditto.
My fun is not babysitting people like this. And this is what ends up happening.
As a healing monk, and normally the only one in a group 9 times out of 10, I expect everyone to try as best they can... listen... and focus on getting things done without blame.
Since, I never, EVER worry about getting into groups (normally I get join group requests the moment I warp into any zone), I just make sure that everyone understands how I work and how I can best keep people (and myself) alive. If they cannot handle my requests to not run off on their own or draw stupid stuff on the mini map or whatnot, I say thank you for their time, say goodbye, and leave. No hard feelings.
I have played (/age) : 73 hours and some change.
Number of deaths (/deaths) : 34
There are reasons for these numbers... less than 1 death every 2 hours played, it's not just luck. IF my job is to keep you alive, then THAT is how I measure success.
Jana
My fun is not babysitting people like this. And this is what ends up happening.
As a healing monk, and normally the only one in a group 9 times out of 10, I expect everyone to try as best they can... listen... and focus on getting things done without blame.
Since, I never, EVER worry about getting into groups (normally I get join group requests the moment I warp into any zone), I just make sure that everyone understands how I work and how I can best keep people (and myself) alive. If they cannot handle my requests to not run off on their own or draw stupid stuff on the mini map or whatnot, I say thank you for their time, say goodbye, and leave. No hard feelings.
I have played (/age) : 73 hours and some change.
Number of deaths (/deaths) : 34
There are reasons for these numbers... less than 1 death every 2 hours played, it's not just luck. IF my job is to keep you alive, then THAT is how I measure success.
Jana
Soul Monarch
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Originally Posted by Redfang
Do people actually believe that by saying this, some player will think to himself, "gee, I would like to have joined that group but I can't because I am a moron and they don't accept morons."
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...oh wait. No I don't. I usually think "That's the guy who gonna sprint off to the side and pull sixteen hydra into our fight and get us all killed. NEXT."
People like that only shoot themselves in the foot.
nechronius
Well every group has to have a moron. By saying "lfg - no morons" clearly that individual is stating that there is only room for one moron, and that's your candidate right there because they don't want to compete for moronship with anybody else in the group.
Zfactor
By the same token, you have to admit its exceedingly annoying to play in like 2 or 3 straight teams who are all jackasses that don't understand the concept of teamwork. I think that its pretty clear when somebody is out in the desert and thinks its a good idea to try to solo every mob or breaks away from the group that he/she is a moron.
I usually put it more tactfully: Mo/Healer LFG that can actually work together
I usually put it more tactfully: Mo/Healer LFG that can actually work together
Jackell
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Originally Posted by nechronius
Well every group has to have a moron. By saying "lfg - no morons" clearly that individual is stating that there is only room for one moron, and that's your candidate right there because they don't want to compete for moronship with anybody else in the group.
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LOL
YOur my hero.
Sekkira
What if someone were to call out "lfg - Morons welcome"?
Jackell
Then sign me up.
Rahne Sinclaire
Do people actually believe that by saying this, some player will think to himself, "gee, I would like to have joined that group but I can't because I am a moron and they don't accept morons."
That made me smile.
That made me smile.
Roken
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Originally Posted by Redfang
Do people actually believe that by saying this, some player will think to himself, "gee, I would like to have joined that group but I can't because I am a moron and they don't accept morons."
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chpmmttn
and here i thought they just didn't want any MOnks Rangers Or Necros... huh.. learn something every day...
JohnCoke
I know this is a semi-silly post. But I'm sure it was sent as a warning that Hey we've had trouble with idiots and I'm tired of dealing with them. SO if you join then we're letting you know up front, don't be an idiot. They just shortened it a bit 
and got rid of the tact.
and got rid of the tact.
Ramus
Next time I see a No Moron group i'll be sure to stay out! 
HellsHeaven
Basicly i believe that people that say no morons are truely the morons. If they aren't morons then why are they stupid enough to state something that most people wont call themselves or classify themselves as a moron. I never joined a group that wants no morons and hope i never do. That is just wrong.
Coffee Despot
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Originally Posted by HellsHeaven
Basicly i believe that people that say no morons are truely the morons. If they aren't morons then why are they stupid enough to state something that most people wont call themselves or classify themselves as a moron. I never joined a group that wants no morons and hope i never do. That is just wrong.
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The humor would be lost on them, but not on you!
trashbin
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Originally Posted by Redfang
I see this a lot. People announce they want a group and then go on to clarify they don't want morons, idiots, noobs, etc. What are they thinking?
Do people actually believe that by saying this, some player will think to himself, "gee, I would like to have joined that group but I can't because I am a moron and they don't accept morons." Or do people think that by saying this, they are somehow elevating themselves and dismissing the possibility that they themselves are a moron, idiot, noob or whatever? Are they really trying to say "I am a superior player?" If so, saying it doesn't make it so, and it doesn't come across that way. Instead, when I see someone yell out "LFG - no morons" I hear: "I am an immature person. I have no concept of teamwork and no tact. I have an inflated ego. I blame other people for anything that doesn't go my way. I don't work well with others and will be an annoyance in the group." I never invite people to groups who do this. I don't join groups who do this. In my opinion anyone who yells "LFG - no morons" has already disqualified themself ... |
nechronius
You know what might be entertaining? Creating a group made up entirely of people who say "no morons" and then having a good hearty laugh at the ensuing hilarity.
Banzia
"lfg - no morons"
even if the people in a group are "morons" they will still invite you and you won't know any different.
i think im gonna go invite ppl sayin that then in the mission just be a complete "moron" for a laugh :P
even if the people in a group are "morons" they will still invite you and you won't know any different.
i think im gonna go invite ppl sayin that then in the mission just be a complete "moron" for a laugh :P
Jackell
Oh noes!!!!1!
That may agrivate them so much that they may quit the game!!!!
And wow.... what a loss THAT would be........:P
That may agrivate them so much that they may quit the game!!!!
And wow.... what a loss THAT would be........:P
sybban
The people who usually say no morons were the ones who screwed up in the first place in case you were wondering
Altough i've felt the urge to say it sometimes after some groups
However another one I would like to see go away is "Elite group lfm" that just screams out douche bag
Altough i've felt the urge to say it sometimes after some groups
However another one I would like to see go away is "Elite group lfm" that just screams out douche bag
PieXags
One time when I was testing out the swear filter I tossed out a simple
"Looking for someone who's not an assclown to head to piken square."
Several people actually pmed me with things such as "I've never been referred to as an "assclown", I'll go with you if you want. :P"
I wasn't actually being serious, I just wanted to see if I could say assclown. And I already had piken square. But the person who PMed me first didn't...so I went with him anyways to get him there.
On a more serious sense though, yeah, I definately only consider going with people with requests such as
"Hey, looking for someone up for the mission." Just something short and simple does it for me. Well, if the guy's name is something like "Uber von Rocked" I problably wouldn't go with them, but you get the idea.
"Looking for someone who's not an assclown to head to piken square."
Several people actually pmed me with things such as "I've never been referred to as an "assclown", I'll go with you if you want. :P"
I wasn't actually being serious, I just wanted to see if I could say assclown. And I already had piken square. But the person who PMed me first didn't...so I went with him anyways to get him there.
On a more serious sense though, yeah, I definately only consider going with people with requests such as
"Hey, looking for someone up for the mission." Just something short and simple does it for me. Well, if the guy's name is something like "Uber von Rocked" I problably wouldn't go with them, but you get the idea.
Jackell
On one note, looking for someone whose not an assclown shows more of a sense of humor than "LFG no morons" or "LFG no n00bs"
Of course, I partied once with someone named Pwner of n00bs, and he was a good teamate....
What can I say, he was the odd one of the bunch.
Of course, I partied once with someone named Pwner of n00bs, and he was a good teamate....
What can I say, he was the odd one of the bunch.
Siren
Yeah, I know how you feel. Some of the LFG requests ("no morons," especially) are simply abysmal, which is why I try to make mine eye-catching and bouncy.
"Fiery redheaded Elementalist looking for big, strapping Warriors, soothing Monks, to accompany her on explorations out into the wild outdoors!"
Stuff like that. It actually really gets people's attention. XD
"Fiery redheaded Elementalist looking for big, strapping Warriors, soothing Monks, to accompany her on explorations out into the wild outdoors!"
Stuff like that. It actually really gets people's attention. XD
Lasher Dragon
I like "LFG need Warriors that know when to charge, and Monks that know when to run"
PieXags
I basically just use
"Looking for peoples to go do s**t with." (I even edited the word after reviewing the forum guidelines, and deciding to be thoughtful of others.)
"Looking for peoples to go do s**t with." (I even edited the word after reviewing the forum guidelines, and deciding to be thoughtful of others.)
Crom the Conqueror
Well those are mostly little kids that wants to feel cool. But we know they are the morons, idiots and noobs. In the future maybe we have to tell our IQ point in order to join a group. "LFG W/MO, with 140 IQ."
Azure Starburst
Lmao this thread is pure gold. I avoid the 'lfg - no morons' people like the plague, since its just another way of saying 'I'm an elitest asshole.'
Kershent
Wow, you guys all could've COMPLETELY misunderstood someone who's asking for Non-morons only. I've done that several times (although I usually say something like 'Group of X LFM--non-idiots/teamplayers only!'), and every time I do it it's usually a fantastic group. There have been a couple that have been some of the best PUGs I've ever been a part of. It simply works, not because people say "Whoops, I'm a moron, better not ask for an invite," but because people go in knowing exactly what to expect. If I ask for people who will use teamwork, everyone who join will know that they're expected to use teamwork and pay attention to what's going on.
And no, I'm NOT the moron that yells at everyone else in the group. I get frustrated if they do something stupid, but I have never and will never blame the loss of a mission on one person.
So please, PLEASE know that people who ask for non-morons aren't morons who will blame the loss on you if you slip up, but instead people who are tired of grouping with players who blatantly ignore the mission objectives, the state of the rest of the group, and what the rest of the group is doing.
And no, I'm NOT the moron that yells at everyone else in the group. I get frustrated if they do something stupid, but I have never and will never blame the loss of a mission on one person.
So please, PLEASE know that people who ask for non-morons aren't morons who will blame the loss on you if you slip up, but instead people who are tired of grouping with players who blatantly ignore the mission objectives, the state of the rest of the group, and what the rest of the group is doing.
Phauran
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Originally Posted by Redfang
I see this a lot. People announce they want a group and then go on to clarify they don't want morons, idiots, noobs, etc. What are they thinking?
Do people actually believe that by saying this, some player will think to himself, "gee, I would like to have joined that group but I can't because I am a moron and they don't accept morons." Or do people think that by saying this, they are somehow elevating themselves and dismissing the possibility that they themselves are a moron, idiot, noob or whatever? Are they really trying to say "I am a superior player?" If so, saying it doesn't make it so, and it doesn't come across that way. Instead, when I see someone yell out "LFG - no morons" I hear: "I am an immature person. I have no concept of teamwork and no tact. I have an inflated ego. I blame other people for anything that doesn't go my way. I don't work well with others and will be an annoyance in the group." I never invite people to groups who do this. I don't join groups who do this. In my opinion anyone who yells "LFG - no morons" has already disqualified themself ... |
Lazarus
I never join these groups because I play a Monk. As I am sure any other Monk will tell you, you have to be a moron to play a Monk and expect to make it through the desert using PUGs. But hey, even morons can win the lotto, right?
Lazarus
Lazarus
eventhorizen
Well you would expect that by the time people make it to Lions Arch, they would have realised sprinting miles ahead of the group into a bunch of Ettins will result in your death. Or that standing still spamming high damage mage spells, or big healing spells or both, at the front of a group or in the middle of a group of high level monsters would also result in your death.
And the amount of people that quit when you tell them this, 'dude want to wait up so a monk can heal you if you need it?', 'STFU noobz0r' Uber Paladin99 has left the game.....
PvP is even funnier, iv watched countless warriors charge straight into anything resembling an enemy, usually going for the other Warrior/Monk even though there are a bunch of mesmers or whatever right next to it.
/hands up, I make mistakes too, people do, youll know youv made an error and will sit jaw clenched at the pc, but I never seem to find a party that can go more than 5 minutes without somone dropping, or mass wipes occuring cos some mage runs away from a fire imp into 500 Tenguti Braves or whatever.
Where do these atleast civil and mature parties hang out? You dont have to be some kind of uberlord, just being able to laugh at a mistake without abusing everyone, and putting a bit of thought into the team would be nice. Do you all hang out in some special district or something?
And the amount of people that quit when you tell them this, 'dude want to wait up so a monk can heal you if you need it?', 'STFU noobz0r' Uber Paladin99 has left the game.....
PvP is even funnier, iv watched countless warriors charge straight into anything resembling an enemy, usually going for the other Warrior/Monk even though there are a bunch of mesmers or whatever right next to it.
/hands up, I make mistakes too, people do, youll know youv made an error and will sit jaw clenched at the pc, but I never seem to find a party that can go more than 5 minutes without somone dropping, or mass wipes occuring cos some mage runs away from a fire imp into 500 Tenguti Braves or whatever.
Where do these atleast civil and mature parties hang out? You dont have to be some kind of uberlord, just being able to laugh at a mistake without abusing everyone, and putting a bit of thought into the team would be nice. Do you all hang out in some special district or something?
Kershent
Even, I hate to tell you, and maybe you already know this, but even past Ascension there are tons of idiots who run right ahead of the group into a big group of mobs.
Jackell
My favorite thing in arena's is to use /sit and watch the endless amounts of Wa/Mo's just run headfirst into each other and hack for 20 minutes. It's like Braveheart on your screen.
....ok so I only did that once. But it was amusing.
....ok so I only did that once. But it was amusing.
xakia
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Originally Posted by Jana
Ditto.
My fun is not babysitting people like this. And this is what ends up happening. As a healing monk, and normally the only one in a group 9 times out of 10, I expect everyone to try as best they can... listen... and focus on getting things done without blame. Since, I never, EVER worry about getting into groups (normally I get join group requests the moment I warp into any zone), I just make sure that everyone understands how I work and how I can best keep people (and myself) alive. If they cannot handle my requests to not run off on their own or draw stupid stuff on the mini map or whatnot, I say thank you for their time, say goodbye, and leave. No hard feelings. I have played (/age) : 73 hours and some change. Number of deaths (/deaths) : 34 There are reasons for these numbers... less than 1 death every 2 hours played, it's not just luck. IF my job is to keep you alive, then THAT is how I measure success. Jana |
Only thing that really bugs me is when I stand in Temple of Ages asking for a group to Underworld or Fissure of Woe and some moron invites me into a quest group...yeah that gets old. It's like they thinkg, "hmmm if i invite and zone out quickly he won't leave!"...........
Dred Skullord
"LFG- no morons" reminds me of the discriminartory advertisements in Chicago . . . NINA (No Irish Need Apply). To think of all those Morons left out there with no group makes me believe we live in the dark ages . . . or some sort of fanasy world with non-playing characters. LOL
If you're seriously offended by "LFG- no morons," you may be hypersensitive.
If you're seriously offended by "LFG- no morons," you may be hypersensitive.
Griminald
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If I ask for people who will use teamwork, everyone who join will know that they're expected to use teamwork and pay attention to what's going on.
So please, PLEASE know that people who ask for non-morons aren't morons who will blame the loss on you if you slip up, but instead people who are tired of grouping with players who blatantly ignore the mission objectives, the state of the rest of the group, and what the rest of the group is doing. |
My bet is, you're not necessarily looking for a "good player" -- because telling bad players not to join, is like asking all bad automobile drivers to move to the shoulder.
You're just looking for people just as frustrated as you are that their last group or two went really poorly. There's still just as high a chance that you'll recruit someone who doesn't really work well, but you've got to agree on how silly it sounds that you're asking it the way you're asking it.
Instead, shout in the zone: "LFG -- only people who are sick and tired of getting into horrible groups tonight"
Kershent
It accomplishes the same thing, Grim. Hopefully people frustrated by idiots in their groups won't be hypocrites. Now, if you're calling me silly because I say "non-idiots," then you should know that I mean it to be silly. :-)
IxChel
Just today someone wrote this:
"LFG, no mormons"
"LFG, no mormons"