I have been working very, very hard at this game, trying to level up enough to get over how incredibly difficult the monsters around Kryta (not to mention Shiverpeaks) are, so that I can actually beat them (remembering time well-spent playing Diablo2, where I could actually kill stuff)...
And so finally, today (after clearing much of Kryta's objectives, quests, etc) I got to level 20...
...and then someone tells me you don't get anymore Attribute Points after that. Only skill points, for buying spells (I have 17 that I dont know what to do with and dont need).
So now I'm at the Desert, freshly level 20, and I don't know what on earth to do. The game is pointless now. My attributes are stuck where they are, even though I can only have a couple high enough to be worth anything... I have the best armor already... I have the best weapon my class can ever carry... (I still can't take on more than 2 monters at a time)
XP is useless to me now, because leveling up gives me nothing (just "Skill" points that do nothing for me). No more reason to do quests for XP, so you can throw all questing in the trash, because it's useless now. No more reason to kill monsters for XP, because I cant use XP, and therefor there no reason to fight monsters. Cant upgrade my character, so I don't need gold... dont need crafting materials... nothing to buy... nothing to sell...
So now what? Do I just keep on finding groups in towns, and going out to finish quests and kill monsters, for no reason, for the whole rest of the game? Is this game *meant* to fall apart at Level 20?
Level 20 = now what?
Dario D.
aron searle
This is the reason i dont play any other games that dont have grind, i mean why play a first person shooter, when theres no xp!!
You are at the desert which means you dont have alot of skills, skill is what this game is about not a number next to your name.
You are at the desert which means you dont have alot of skills, skill is what this game is about not a number next to your name.
SilentAssassin
GuildWars is based on your skill, if you this is your first character and you just reached lvl 20, you got 17 skill points that means you almost never buy a skill, try to make new builds, different set ups for specific places.
GuildWars missions - quests are ment to be a team based play, if you go out on your own well without a decent build you will get killed. It's not like diablo, never compare it to that, diablo was just lvl, lvl, lvl, weapons and then click click click and every1 around you was dead, you call this fun? well maybe you should try D2 again or go play WoW.
try to enjoy the game as it is ment to be played
GuildWars missions - quests are ment to be a team based play, if you go out on your own well without a decent build you will get killed. It's not like diablo, never compare it to that, diablo was just lvl, lvl, lvl, weapons and then click click click and every1 around you was dead, you call this fun? well maybe you should try D2 again or go play WoW.
try to enjoy the game as it is ment to be played
Zakarr
You are in Desert so you can't have best armors yet because those you can get in Droknar's Forge.
There is two attribute quests left where you get total 30 points. Have you ascended yet? I guess you haven't. Do the three missions at the desert.
Gaining levels as the only goal is so cliché in RPGs. Guild Wars is different. Capture all elite and normal skills, change secondary profession, capture skills to it, find out good builds, play the game to the end because desert is not the last place. After completing the game, do all Droknar quests, go to Sorrow's Furnace and kill the golem, do all quests at UW and FoW, do PvP and gain access to Team Arenas, then get your guild to rank 1, own Hall of Heroes and do it again and again, get all max stat rare skin weapons and off-hand items, get FoW armors to all your characters, get 1 million gold and 1000 ectoplasms. Then play GW Factions and have fun exploring new things with two new professions.
There is two attribute quests left where you get total 30 points. Have you ascended yet? I guess you haven't. Do the three missions at the desert.
Gaining levels as the only goal is so cliché in RPGs. Guild Wars is different. Capture all elite and normal skills, change secondary profession, capture skills to it, find out good builds, play the game to the end because desert is not the last place. After completing the game, do all Droknar quests, go to Sorrow's Furnace and kill the golem, do all quests at UW and FoW, do PvP and gain access to Team Arenas, then get your guild to rank 1, own Hall of Heroes and do it again and again, get all max stat rare skin weapons and off-hand items, get FoW armors to all your characters, get 1 million gold and 1000 ectoplasms. Then play GW Factions and have fun exploring new things with two new professions.
luckystrikes03
I hate to state the obvious but you really understand the concepts of the gameplay, dont you?
If your idea of working hard is to reach lvl 20 then you should just wait until you understand the game. You cant kill stuff b/c its a team game. Having 6000 att points to spend and doing 1000 dmg with one attack is not the point of the game. If you want to kill stuff learn to solo or go back to ascalon and kill the poor defenceless enemies there.
Lvl20 is the skill cap and Anet has said it will NOT be raised. You can do 2 quests to get 30 more att points (200 total). Skill points are good for buying skills for your secondary(s) from skill trainers.
You dont have the best armor in the game, I'm 99% sure you dont have the best weapon in the game and if you cant take on more than to enemies at a time then you need to change builds.
The Desert is only a little over half way through the game. You still have the Southern Shiverpeaks, Fire Islands, all the quests, and the "End Game" quests. Not to mention Factions release is pretty close at the moment.
XP = skill points = able to buy skills later (running out is bad)
Buy runes, collect money, start running, start farming, start Tombs/FoW/UW/SF/IDS/etc runs. Im not even starting on the PvP side of the game. If your bored start a secondary profession, start a new character, start unlocking the Hundreds of elites that are out there.
If your idea of working hard is to reach lvl 20 then you should just wait until you understand the game. You cant kill stuff b/c its a team game. Having 6000 att points to spend and doing 1000 dmg with one attack is not the point of the game. If you want to kill stuff learn to solo or go back to ascalon and kill the poor defenceless enemies there.
Lvl20 is the skill cap and Anet has said it will NOT be raised. You can do 2 quests to get 30 more att points (200 total). Skill points are good for buying skills for your secondary(s) from skill trainers.
You dont have the best armor in the game, I'm 99% sure you dont have the best weapon in the game and if you cant take on more than to enemies at a time then you need to change builds.
The Desert is only a little over half way through the game. You still have the Southern Shiverpeaks, Fire Islands, all the quests, and the "End Game" quests. Not to mention Factions release is pretty close at the moment.
XP = skill points = able to buy skills later (running out is bad)
Buy runes, collect money, start running, start farming, start Tombs/FoW/UW/SF/IDS/etc runs. Im not even starting on the PvP side of the game. If your bored start a secondary profession, start a new character, start unlocking the Hundreds of elites that are out there.
Dario D.
I have Droknar's Armor...
And replying to someone above: there's no motivation for me to try new builds or buy new skills, because the only reason to do that would be to kill monsters better. And for what? It would only benefit me if I played this game just to watch monsters die... when infact, I only like to watch them die if I get reward from it. Having a better build after 20 would only be for the purpose of amusing yourself with your ability to kill better... there wouldnt be any other reason, because the monsters dont give you anything.
By the way, I study the skills very carefully (I even have the ranger's Barrage elite skill...) and have already bought 5 or 6 spells that I could actually use (60% of the skills are useless anyway). There arent any other ones that I need, and if I do, I can buy them with one of my 17 leftover points. No worries there... I understand that the rest of the game is only for adjusting your builds (apparently just to kill monsters faster, with no reward whatsoever for a character like mine, since I cant use anything they drop at that point, and I dont need their XP anymore)
You have to understand that Ive lost all motivation to play this game anymore, for reasons clearly stated (I thought) above. Ive spent weeks playing this game, studying it carefully, and planning my course of action for days in advance before setting out to do things, and go after certain Elite skills (Barrage), charm a rare pet (Lvl 15 wolf), etc. ...but now that I've reached the top, the only reason to continue would be to play with builds, and not a thing more (which makes playing with builds useless to someone like me).
If there is rememdy for my situation, someone please tell me what it is (!)
Problem:
Ranger/Mo + max armor + max weapon + max attribute points + best skills + 17 leftover skill points + only halway through game = no reason to collect money for armor/weapons/inventory = no reason to do quests for XP/attribute points/skill points = no reason to fight monsters because XP wont give me anything I dont have already = no reason to do ANYTHING = BOOOOOORING!!!!
Solution:
Amuse myself with new builds for rest of game? So that I can get better XP that I cant use?
And replying to someone above: there's no motivation for me to try new builds or buy new skills, because the only reason to do that would be to kill monsters better. And for what? It would only benefit me if I played this game just to watch monsters die... when infact, I only like to watch them die if I get reward from it. Having a better build after 20 would only be for the purpose of amusing yourself with your ability to kill better... there wouldnt be any other reason, because the monsters dont give you anything.
By the way, I study the skills very carefully (I even have the ranger's Barrage elite skill...) and have already bought 5 or 6 spells that I could actually use (60% of the skills are useless anyway). There arent any other ones that I need, and if I do, I can buy them with one of my 17 leftover points. No worries there... I understand that the rest of the game is only for adjusting your builds (apparently just to kill monsters faster, with no reward whatsoever for a character like mine, since I cant use anything they drop at that point, and I dont need their XP anymore)
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I hate to state the obvious but you really understand the concepts of the gameplay, dont you?
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If there is rememdy for my situation, someone please tell me what it is (!)
Problem:
Ranger/Mo + max armor + max weapon + max attribute points + best skills + 17 leftover skill points + only halway through game = no reason to collect money for armor/weapons/inventory = no reason to do quests for XP/attribute points/skill points = no reason to fight monsters because XP wont give me anything I dont have already = no reason to do ANYTHING = BOOOOOORING!!!!
Solution:
Amuse myself with new builds for rest of game? So that I can get better XP that I cant use?
Xenrath
Complete the game/story perhaps? Still quite a lot to go if you're at the desert. Reaching level 20 isn't the end of the game, just part of it; later on you'll encounter fights where you win/lose depending on your skill and party abilities (hence realising levels don't really mean a great deal to begin with)
JediKnight
Try creating a new character with different classes from those you already have.
It makes for a totally different game.
It makes for a totally different game.
Maxiemonster
If you just play for rewards, that's your fault, but then this probably isn't the right game for you. You don't get a reward if you have everything in this game, unless you consider playing a reward. I've played this game ~1500 hours now, and I get rewards, just not in the form of XP, which is FAR from everything in the game.
Zakarr
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So now I'm at the Desert, freshly level 20, and I don't know what on earth to do.
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I have Droknar's Armor...
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You obviously have ran to Droknar's Forge because you can't go there if you are in the desert...someone ruined your game. 
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And replying to someone above, you have to understand that there's no motivation for me to try new builds or buy new skills, because I get no enjoyment out of fighting monsters and killing them, unless I get a reward. Having a better build after 20 would only be for the purpose of amusing yourself when you see monsters die... there wouldnt be any other reason, because the monsters dont give you anything, unless you just LOVE to see monsters die.
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Pevil Lihatuh
The reward is the killing. Take Diablo, killing a group of Fallen is no achievement, heck even killing a group of Baal's minions reaches a stage where its no achievement, so you need rewarding with xp and items.
In this game the rewards are many. Monsters in general are tougher, you need to learn how they act and each type of monster is different (then they become easy but ssh
). Learn to solo Ettins, Hydras and Minotaurs, and you get a reward for doing solo work in a team-play game. Collect perfect weapons and get your reward from the money you make selling them
And as a Ranger since April, you can't possibly expect me to believe 60% of ranger skills are useless; you need different skills for different areas and if you're refusing to swap your build round, well thats why 1. you can't kill anything and 2. you don't like the attributes being so 'low'.
Seriously, try using an Ettin farming build for regular play, or a trapping build against mixed mobs (it does work but its tedious). Try a spike build against all warrior mobs... try a completely defensive build against casters. I use completely different builds for Ettins, Sorrows Furnace, UW and the Desert. I used to always stick to the same build coz its what I was used to; I knew the skills and they worked... and then I saw how my bf was doing so much more damage and I tried some of his skills. And then I saw people posting how they could solo things, and I tried and tweaked their builds.
Thats the reward in this game. Finding a build that works for something, and that works well.
In this game the rewards are many. Monsters in general are tougher, you need to learn how they act and each type of monster is different (then they become easy but ssh
). Learn to solo Ettins, Hydras and Minotaurs, and you get a reward for doing solo work in a team-play game. Collect perfect weapons and get your reward from the money you make selling themAnd as a Ranger since April, you can't possibly expect me to believe 60% of ranger skills are useless; you need different skills for different areas and if you're refusing to swap your build round, well thats why 1. you can't kill anything and 2. you don't like the attributes being so 'low'.
Seriously, try using an Ettin farming build for regular play, or a trapping build against mixed mobs (it does work but its tedious). Try a spike build against all warrior mobs... try a completely defensive build against casters. I use completely different builds for Ettins, Sorrows Furnace, UW and the Desert. I used to always stick to the same build coz its what I was used to; I knew the skills and they worked... and then I saw how my bf was doing so much more damage and I tried some of his skills. And then I saw people posting how they could solo things, and I tried and tweaked their builds.
Thats the reward in this game. Finding a build that works for something, and that works well.
Manic Smile
*sigh*...I skipped half the game and all these monsters are so hard
Just play the whole thing through as others have said and it will be fine...PvE become laughably easy I promise.
Just play the whole thing through as others have said and it will be fine...PvE become laughably easy I promise.
Xenrath
Just to add as well if you've been spending days "planning" things out in advance, does that mean reading up on stuff before playing/finding them? e.g. droknar armour? quests etc? If so might I in a friendly manner suggest changing that behaviour; the game is finite in length and things you can do ultimately (hence a lot of people end up farming) but reading up beforehand is essentially spoiling the game for yourself (assuming that's what you've been doing)
I for one probably won't be visiting GWG much once I get Factions, to avoid spoiling it for myself, it will be like starting out all over again and discovering/exploring everything from new
I for one probably won't be visiting GWG much once I get Factions, to avoid spoiling it for myself, it will be like starting out all over again and discovering/exploring everything from new
Greedy Gus
This is a competitive PvP game where the playing field is level and player skill determines the winner. If you bought the game for killing monsters and raising your level, you wasted your money.
fallot
Your character progress is determined more by the amount of skills you have obtained rather than what level you are because everyone is going to be 20 very quickly. You can get a few more attribute points from two quests but otherwise you've reached the cap as far as levels are concerned.
Xenrath
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This is a competitive PvP game where the playing field is level and player skill determines the winner. If you bought the game for killing monsters and raising your level, you wasted your money.
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Dwimmerlaik
I heard there's PvP in Guild Wars.
Manic Smile
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fiery
Man drama queen city. IF your bored of the game move on if not.
Finish the damn game, I bet you haven't tried Heros Ascent, Team Arenas, Random Arenas. Your not ascended you have no clue whats Fissure of Woe is or the Underworld. Go kill stuff make gold, do some Guild versus Guild. Try to win Hall of Heroes. Join an active guild, its okay to ask what else to do. May get tedious but try more of the aspects of the game than just being stuck with forge armor in the desert.
Finish the damn game, I bet you haven't tried Heros Ascent, Team Arenas, Random Arenas. Your not ascended you have no clue whats Fissure of Woe is or the Underworld. Go kill stuff make gold, do some Guild versus Guild. Try to win Hall of Heroes. Join an active guild, its okay to ask what else to do. May get tedious but try more of the aspects of the game than just being stuck with forge armor in the desert.
Guardian of the Light
You still got a lot to do. Remember you still have to learn the meaning of skill by beating the game. Beat the end of the titan quest and you'll learn what skill truelly means.
Reverend Jekyll
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I have Droknar's Armor...
(I even have the ranger's Barrage elite skill...) (60% of the skills are useless anyway). (apparently just to kill monsters faster, with no reward whatsoever for a character like mine, since I cant use anything they drop at that point, and I dont need their XP anymore) Problem: Ranger/Mo + max armor + max weapon + max attribute points + best skills + 17 leftover skill points + only halway through game = no reason to collect money for armor/weapons/inventory = no reason to do quests for XP/attribute points/skill points = no reason to fight monsters because XP wont give me anything I dont have already = no reason to do ANYTHING = BOOOOOORING!!!! |
"I was rushed through the game so that I could have end game gear and skills as quickly as possible. I am now so much more powerful than anything around me that I am bored with killing things that represent no challenge. Even though I'm level 20 my /deaths count is probably less than 10. I have never had to work for anything that I have so I take it 100% for granted. Now that I'm stuck doing inane stuff over and over again I will probably quit, never seeing anything more challenging than some enchanted armor, scarabs and minotaurs."
Let me give you a bit of advice. Start a new character. Stay in pre-sear until level 6 or so, enough time to do every quest there. Do every quest and mission in post-searing. Don't skip ahead to get the best armor/gear/skills, learn to work with what you have so that you don't become a one-trick pony.
You will find that while it's more tedious to do it that way, it's also more rewarding. It also gives you the sense of accomplishment that you are currently lacking (which is why you are so bored atm).
Greedy Gus
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Now now, let's not change this into a PvP vs PvE thread (again).. a huge number of people enjoy just the PvE bit, and vice versa
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As far as I knew, this game was always touted as a competitive (PvP) rpg, that also had a pve campaign to prepare players for PvP. Everyone who referred me to the game admitted that the PvE side got tedious but the competitive PvP was the meat and potatoes.
The OP is bored with the campaign, and is asking where his end-game play is. It would be misleading to tell him anything other than PvP.
Traveller
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As far as I knew, this game was always touted as a competitive (PvP) rpg, that also had a pve campaign to prepare players for PvP.
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myword
i asked this same question when i finished the PVE campaign on my first character, then i found PVP... and made 2 other PVE characters to unlock more skills (before introduction of faction system)
must... be... first... to... lvl99!!!
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XP is useless to me now, because leveling up gives me nothing (just "Skill" points that do nothing for me). No more reason to do quests for XP, so you can throw all questing in the trash, because it's useless now. No more reason to kill monsters for XP, because I cant use XP, and therefor there no reason to fight monsters.
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Harmony
I agree with much of the advice given above. If you were ran through the game,especially with your first character, then you really cheated yourself big time. The game is so much more than just powerleveling. That said, it seems obvious (to me at least) that you really do not have any plans to change your build, make a new character, etc, and have determined to be bored with it. I add my voice to the others who have said it much more succinctly than myself; this is probably not the right game for you.
Jenosavel
As has already been said, playing this game is the only reward you need for playing it. So many other RPGs (and don't get me wrong, I love RPGs), have such tedious and boring gameplay that they have to give you a reward for plunking away endlessly at enemies. They do it by always having the lure of that next level hanging in front of your nose. (x_x Don't even get me started on La Pucelle or Disgaea)
Guild Wars is different.
The end game quests (Titans especially) are a prime example. They're like the Weapon fights in the Final Fantasy series. There's no real reason to do them save for bragging rights or the knowledge that you've truly mastered the game. While any "true mastery" of Guild Wars will be much more difficult, the goal is the same. Play to see if you can beat the real challenges, and if you can't, then train yourself to become better. That is the real fun of Guild Wars. Your character doesn't do much in the way of leveling, but you sure as heck do.
I can say with confidence that Guild Wars is one of my favorite games. I like it for the same reason I like Ninja Gaiden. It's hard. It atually means something if you're good enough to stick it through to the end or manage to push your guild into the top 100 (still dreaming of the latter ).
Guild Wars is different.
The end game quests (Titans especially) are a prime example. They're like the Weapon fights in the Final Fantasy series. There's no real reason to do them save for bragging rights or the knowledge that you've truly mastered the game. While any "true mastery" of Guild Wars will be much more difficult, the goal is the same. Play to see if you can beat the real challenges, and if you can't, then train yourself to become better. That is the real fun of Guild Wars. Your character doesn't do much in the way of leveling, but you sure as heck do.
I can say with confidence that Guild Wars is one of my favorite games. I like it for the same reason I like Ninja Gaiden. It's hard. It atually means something if you're good enough to stick it through to the end or manage to push your guild into the top 100 (still dreaming of the latter
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Jordster
D2 was a joke ... Run through the campaign once and level to 30. Run through it again - fighting all the same mobs that are much tougher- and now you're L40. Run through THE EXACT SAME GAME again - only again tougher - and you're L50. Then, to get exp, do Baal runs until your balls fall off.
Dario you should go play that. You'll get exp for every single mob you kill! Once day, you might get to L99 so you can be really good at killing the SAME DAMN MOBS over and over!!
If killing mobs in D2 gave you a sense of accomplishment, you should look up a game called Progress Quest - it would be perfect for you.
Dario you should go play that. You'll get exp for every single mob you kill! Once day, you might get to L99 so you can be really good at killing the SAME DAMN MOBS over and over!!
If killing mobs in D2 gave you a sense of accomplishment, you should look up a game called Progress Quest - it would be perfect for you.
Big_Iron
Playing GW isn't about how high you can level up to. In PvE, there's a story you play through. You play through the missions and quests and experience the story. If all I did was try to level, I'd be bored too. I've finished the game with 3 (and almost 4) chars. I enjoy it each time because I like the story so much a long with the friends I make a long the way.
Hockster
He's already made up his mind that the game is over for him.
Just uninstall it and go find something else. If Diablo was so much more rewarding, well..........
Just uninstall it and go find something else. If Diablo was so much more rewarding, well..........
Hell Marauder
So you've gotten to level 20, but what about your rank, what about your fame? I'll bet they're 0, aren't they? So it's time for you to reach that elusive rank 12 or above, as I believe there's no upper limit to your rank. Let's see how good a power leveler you are. 
And if you're not into leveling, how many serpent/dwarven axes have you found? How about crystalline swords? So you've got a very long way to go for treasure hunting, my friend.
And if you're not into leveling, how many serpent/dwarven axes have you found? How about crystalline swords? So you've got a very long way to go for treasure hunting, my friend.
Mordakai
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I for one probably won't be visiting GWG much once I get Factions, to avoid spoiling it for myself, it will be like starting out all over again and discovering/exploring everything from new
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There's no way to completely seal yourself, unless you don't talk to anyone.
I remember when I first (spoiler alert!) got to Piken Square, and someone was selling Althea's Ashes. I didn't even know she was dead yet!
I know, minor thing, but just an example...
FalconDance
All my girls are level 20 (plus several times) and nearly all finished completely including all the Titan quests. They all have "the best" armor, Catrin even has 15K bonelace. They all have max weaponry, although there is always a better one to be had, of course . And they all have more than their share of unspent skill points (saving for Factions skills) and so many unused skills it isn't even funny.
Am I bored with GW? No. Well, ocassionally I get in a slump that lasts about....a day. Right now, my ranger is helping newbies get through Surmia and Nolani with as little pain as possible? Why? Because someone helped her and if you're only lvl 5 or 7, it can be daunting. Her reward for such behaviour? The ocassional charr hide (which I trade in for fur squares so when I rebuild my warrioress I'll have materials for armor) or dye drop (so far, two peeps I've taken out have gotten black dye, but my best has a blue). The best reward? The timid thank you given at the end.
My other girls go out and adventure. It's not about leveling. It's not even about killing, per se. It's about devising a strategy that means victory for you and/or your party. That is the challenge. Us vs Them.
. And they all have more than their share of unspent skill points (saving for Factions skills) and so many unused skills it isn't even funny.Am I bored with GW? No. Well, ocassionally I get in a slump that lasts about....a day
. Right now, my ranger is helping newbies get through Surmia and Nolani with as little pain as possible? Why? Because someone helped her and if you're only lvl 5 or 7, it can be daunting. Her reward for such behaviour? The ocassional charr hide (which I trade in for fur squares so when I rebuild my warrioress I'll have materials for armor) or dye drop (so far, two peeps I've taken out have gotten black dye, but my best has a blue). The best reward? The timid thank you given at the end. My other girls go out and adventure. It's not about leveling. It's not even about killing, per se. It's about devising a strategy that means victory for you and/or your party. That is the challenge. Us vs Them.
Pevil Lihatuh
Nice post Falcon
John Bloodstone
Funny post, this game isn't Diablo 2. There are few rewards in terms of new armour and weapons, you can't solo endless groups of enemies (without a specific build/enemy anyway), there is very little forced grind, you can't keep endlessly levelling up.
The idea is that you pick up new skills; don't be so quick to dismiss 90% of the skills available to you. Later on in the game you will find that the enemies become a lot harder and you will be relying on those skills, rather than your attributes/level to get through. Once you let go of the notion that more points equals better then you will be able to enjoy the game a lot more.
There are hundreds of skills in this game, if you desperately seek grind, then instead of grinding for levels, grind for all the skills. At the end of the day, what is the difference?
One final thing, harking back to Diablo 2; if you expect to be able to run through vast hoards of enemies and slaughter them indiscriminately then you are in for a bitter upset. This game is about teamwork; this fact is drilled into you at practically the first quest you take where you need a partner in order to collect your ressurrection signet. If you don't like teamwork and would rather solo then i'm sorry to tell you that this game isn't going to get any better for you.
The idea is that you pick up new skills; don't be so quick to dismiss 90% of the skills available to you. Later on in the game you will find that the enemies become a lot harder and you will be relying on those skills, rather than your attributes/level to get through. Once you let go of the notion that more points equals better then you will be able to enjoy the game a lot more.
There are hundreds of skills in this game, if you desperately seek grind, then instead of grinding for levels, grind for all the skills. At the end of the day, what is the difference?
One final thing, harking back to Diablo 2; if you expect to be able to run through vast hoards of enemies and slaughter them indiscriminately then you are in for a bitter upset. This game is about teamwork; this fact is drilled into you at practically the first quest you take where you need a partner in order to collect your ressurrection signet. If you don't like teamwork and would rather solo then i'm sorry to tell you that this game isn't going to get any better for you.
crimsonfilms
Buy WoW and level up yourself to death.
Then in 6-8 months - start a post in a WoW forum saying you are A) Bored because you are now level 70 or so B) the grind is killing you and you need a game with less grind
If A - wait for the next WoW expansion to increase level cap
If B - buy GW and start the process over.
gg
Then in 6-8 months - start a post in a WoW forum saying you are A) Bored because you are now level 70 or so B) the grind is killing you and you need a game with less grind
If A - wait for the next WoW expansion to increase level cap
If B - buy GW and start the process over.
gg
Mandy Memory
either pvp, finish the game, or leave and go play World of Grindcraft
Griff Mon
I read a review in a game magazine that said, well, you ascend to lvl 20 and then the game is over. ????
Kind of sounds like that. I have six characters all ascended, one in each profession. Just on example, my warrior:
I reset skills for all sorts of different things, a running build, a etten farming build, a FoW/SF build, (several variations), several PVP builds, and then I have several other chars that I have diff builds for depending on what I am doing or what is needed by my guild.
There is so much to do, but you gotta want to do it...
Kind of sounds like that. I have six characters all ascended, one in each profession. Just on example, my warrior:
I reset skills for all sorts of different things, a running build, a etten farming build, a FoW/SF build, (several variations), several PVP builds, and then I have several other chars that I have diff builds for depending on what I am doing or what is needed by my guild.
There is so much to do, but you gotta want to do it...
Vindexus
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Originally Posted by Dario D.
I have been working very, very hard at this game, trying to level up enough to get over how incredibly difficult the monsters around Kryta (not to mention Shiverpeaks) are, so that I can actually beat them (remembering time well-spent playing Diablo2, where I could actually kill stuff)...
And so finally, today (after clearing much of Kryta's objectives, quests, etc) I got to level 20... ...and then someone tells me you don't get anymore Attribute Points after that. Only skill points, for buying spells (I have 17 that I dont know what to do with and dont need). So now I'm at the Desert, freshly level 20, and I don't know what on earth to do. The game is pointless now. My attributes are stuck where they are, even though I can only have a couple high enough to be worth anything... I have the best armor already... I have the best weapon my class can ever carry... (I still can't take on more than 2 monters at a time) XP is useless to me now, because leveling up gives me nothing (just "Skill" points that do nothing for me). No more reason to do quests for XP, so you can throw all questing in the trash, because it's useless now. No more reason to kill monsters for XP, because I cant use XP, and therefor there no reason to fight monsters. Cant upgrade my character, so I don't need gold... dont need crafting materials... nothing to buy... nothing to sell... So now what? Do I just keep on finding groups in towns, and going out to finish quests and kill monsters, for no reason, for the whole rest of the game? Is this game *meant* to fall apart at Level 20? |
Sekkira
Wow. This is seriously like playing metroid, getting the final Varia Suit and giving up because there's no point in continuing, you've got the best equipment.
broodijzer
I've only read the first few posts, excuse me if this already has been said..
so you've got the best of everything, max lvl and all attributes? you can't improve anymore, only personal skillwise. but the monsters do, lvl, armor and skillwise. so it gets harder, which is fun.
so you've got the best of everything, max lvl and all attributes? you can't improve anymore, only personal skillwise. but the monsters do, lvl, armor and skillwise. so it gets harder, which is fun.