Does anyone use his PVE char. in PVP ? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

zakaria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

07 Mar 2006 at 09:35 - 1

is it noob action of using your PVE char in PVP to save slots in your account ?
i test my builds of my PVE char. in PVP ..sometimes i win and sometimes i lose.
does anyone do this also ?i know the limits and boundries of using PVE char. in PVP ..it's not like when u make fast PVP char. and get into action as soon as u finished building it but it makes me proud sometimes that i won with my PVE char. against your PVP already made up char.

i hope most of replies to this thread are PVP hardcore players to know what they think about this...THX

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

07 Mar 2006 at 09:41 - 2

I do, since I have my slots full and occasionally I'd like to try PvP as well. I've had a lot of fun mostly in RA with my mesmer and ranger.

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

07 Mar 2006 at 09:55 - 3

pvp chars can always have perfect equipment. pve chars often do not. Hence it makes sense to make a pvp char for pvp.

wolfe2dale

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hemel Hempstead

Guildless...

E/Me

07 Mar 2006 at 10:09 - 4

Why would I ever use a pvp character? I have spent ages building the perfect pve characters that absolutely own in pvp...

Besides, last I looked you can't get green items for a pvp only character.

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

E/

07 Mar 2006 at 10:11 - 5

I use my PVE monk in all areas, (except maybe in TA). I have 560 health and 53 energy, depending on the choice of 4 weapon slots available which I can toggle between depending on the situation.

I see no point in making an inferior PVP character.

linz85

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

notts uk

UndergroundUk (uguk)

E/Mo

07 Mar 2006 at 10:36 - 6

im a bit 50-50. i use a pvp char to play a char i dont have in pve. but if i know my pve char is just as good as any pvp char, then ill use my pve char.

Aejorii

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

SF, CA

W/

07 Mar 2006 at 10:36 - 7

My warrior is fully up to pvp standard with multiple helms/weapons/armor so I use that to pvp. I wish I could use my monk though, I still need to find a good Healing staff.

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

07 Mar 2006 at 10:37 - 8

I do PvP with my PvE characters, but not all the time. I keep one slot open for when a group needs a certain combination which cannot be achieved by my PvE characters.

Tainek

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Rage]

07 Mar 2006 at 10:37 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by art_

pvp chars can always have perfect equipment. pve chars often do not. Hence it makes sense to make a pvp char for pvp.

unless you already have all the perfect items+mods, which makes this a moot point

[FnG] Lazz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Fun 'n' Games

W/Mo

07 Mar 2006 at 10:40 - 10

Tbh I use a bit of both. I have sometimes known my PvE characters to do better in PvP than PvP characters, but I think this is due to being more experienced/familiar with my PvE character (i.e. energy amount, health, skill location on bar etc).

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

07 Mar 2006 at 10:42 - 11

PvP characters give you flexibility and unless you've been playing PvE very extensively you wont be able to match them. If you want to get serious, you will need a PvP slot. Not being able to play 2 primaries in PvP is a huge handicap.

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

07 Mar 2006 at 10:42 - 12

I use my PvE monk in PvP. I've got the sup vigors all around but since I'm a 15k armor maniac and I have 5 chars so I haven't gotten around to getting a sup absorb for my warrior so it can stomp things in PvP too.

EDIT: removed the red engines

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

07 Mar 2006 at 11:03 - 13

9 HP won't make a bit of difference :O

Actually, it all comes down to armor. PvE chars can swap a set of armor anytime they like in any situation, unlike PvP are only allowed 1 set.

Lexar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Organised Spam

W/

07 Mar 2006 at 11:11 - 14

PvE warriors can take 4 or more weapons with them. And several shields or offhand artifacts. Like shields to reduce conditions if you see trappers up ahead.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

07 Mar 2006 at 11:14 - 15

I use my PvE warrior, and my PvE monk all the time, it is MUCH quicker to swap secondaries and items/runes with PvE characters than it is with PvP ones. Plus, I can have different sets of armor for different purposes, which is an advantage over PvP.

Lord Valkyr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

N/Mo

07 Mar 2006 at 12:42 - 16

I often go into PvP with my PvE characters. Even though I don't have the best weapons/runes, I find I can still compete with PvP characters. On a few occasions I'v gone toe-to-toe with a PvP warrior who had superior vigor + superior absorbtion and a perfect axe, and I still beat him even though my warrior only had minor runes and a clean axe with no mods. I guess it just goes to show that this game is all about skill, not equipment

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yorkshire, UK

R/Me

07 Mar 2006 at 12:54 - 17

on the rare occasions that i pvp, yes i do. Because 1. i do it so little i have no faction to unlock skills for a pvp char and 2. because i have 2 accounts with one of each primary so I have most of the skills unlocked on them. Even though I do have one spare slot on each account... lol.

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

07 Mar 2006 at 13:38 - 18

I use my PvE monk for PvP play. But it fully battle-ready. I've put considerable amount of time to get all skills & equipment to get it ready for pvp.

I'll keep it short on this topic:
- there are advantages to using a pve char in pvp
- for trying/testing diverse builds, a pvp char is often better. a pve char can deal with more stable builds.
- the resources to prepare a pve toon fully for pvp should not be underestimated.

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

07 Mar 2006 at 13:58 - 19

I do a lot of PvP and I have never made a PvP char except one which I am using as a mule toon. PvP chars are nice if you want to try a class in PvP you have no advanced PvE toon for, but that's it. If you have all primary skills on the class you want to play there is really no reason not to use an RP character in PvP. You can buy missing skills just as easily as a PvP toon can unlock them. Honestly, if someone says PvE characters are inferior to PvP characters, don't listen to them. Those people are clueless.

PvP chars are made for people who hate to play PvE and for those trying a lot of different builds in one evening. The rest of us can do without.

LightningHell

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

07 Mar 2006 at 14:09 - 20

PvE characters should be used in PvP, unless you haven't yet completed the game with that character yet. I agree to Fantus's point at:

Quote:

Honestly, if someone says PvE characters are inferior to PvP characters, don't listen to them. Those people are clueless.

Plus, I like my 15k armor!

temp

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

my bedroom

Band Of Death UK

07 Mar 2006 at 14:11 - 21

i always use my pve chars for the very little pvp i do. saves on space...plus more customizable

wouldnt call it noobish...would call it smart

Valdaran Longfoot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Colorado, US

Furious Dragons Reign [FDR]

W/

07 Mar 2006 at 14:12 - 22

PvE all the way. You only need one slot for a PvP character, other than that I'm all PvE.

And for most people who say PvE have inperfect equipment, thats what greens are for............

OrangeArrow

Flame Bait

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mass

Mo/Me

07 Mar 2006 at 14:16 - 23

Well there are some advantages to playing as a PvE toon compared to a PvP one.

I know for a fact that some top guilds use PvE chars to gain certain advantages.

Mainly having a larger selection of equipment to chose from and being able to swap armor and runes on the fly.

Heck till the last patch most top guilds where running PvE warriors to use the HoD hex Helm.

Its easier to use a PvE toon these days with the introduction of perfect green weapons and the general drop of prices to get perfect equipment and mods.

The classes with the most advanatges to running PvE is Warrior(More weapons, -Blindness shield, Being able to switch helms), Ranger(Larger Bow selection), Monk (being able to choose from a larger selection of equipment and armor swapping.)
From what I know Monks should have 3 or 4 sets of equipment to swap to depending on situations that can be a huge advanatge comapared to players that dont (Ie -7 energy set to protect against energy denial, +30 energy set for emergancies, 40% (well techincally 36% )recharge set if they are using oob or edrain for energy management, a high hp set to protect against spikes)

But anyways you should always have one slot reserved for a PvP character they are versatile in being able to quickly play any build

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

07 Mar 2006 at 14:52 - 24

Depends, say made a necro to do Taint and MM and Orders Fairly easy to get PERFECT weapons hence the green items.

Say ranger spike, many green bows can be used.

As goes for ALL CHARACTERS.

As for GVG and HOH, I say make a PVP character cause i doubt each warrior you made has a sup vigor and sup absorb and any other charcter on you PVE slots.

Harder you try can't get a -5 energy focus unless transfer from PVE.

Harmony

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Houston, Texas

Arcane Nexus (ANX)

R/Me

07 Mar 2006 at 15:01 - 25

On the occasions that I do get a yen to pvp, I have used my pve characters quite effectively in several of the arenas, mainly my elementalist and mesmer. I do plan on making a pvp only character later on; but right now..no slots.

wolfe2dale

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hemel Hempstead

Guildless...

E/Me

07 Mar 2006 at 15:02 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiery

Depends, say made a necro to do Taint and MM and Orders Fairly easy to get PERFECT weapons hence the green items.

Say ranger spike, many green bows can be used.

As goes for ALL CHARACTERS.

As for GVG and HOH, I say make a PVP character cause i doubt each warrior you made has a sup vigor and sup absorb and any other charcter on you PVE slots.

Harder you try can't get a -5 energy focus unless transfer from PVE.

I just don't see the point in a pvp character unless you are brand new to the game & don't want to wait.

I only have pve char's & I use them in all aspects of the game, (mostly gvg now), they are runed/equiped up to the hilt. Using a pvp ready-made would be kinda silly for me don't you think?

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

[Sage]

E/

07 Mar 2006 at 15:03 - 27

I use my PvE ele/mes for when the guild decides to GvG. I have unlock all the skills and capped almost all the Elites so I can usually set her up any way the guild needs. I think its is a sense of accomplishment to win a battle in PvP with my trusty PvE Ele.

Rilder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mystic Shadow Soldiers (MSS)

R/

07 Mar 2006 at 15:09 - 28

I use sorta both.... if we need a ranger I always go pve since my ranger is only missing like 4 skills... if i go any other class its pvp since my pve warrior dont have alot of elites unlocked and he and my ranger are the only -Set- charactors and will never be deleted.

also my ranger doesnt have perfect equipment but as you all know you dont need perfect equipment to get anywere in this game... sundering is crud, elemental mods can get countered... fortitude to help as much as it seems...condition mods require specific builds... My rangers best bow is 14-27 =P and yes I do have greens.... =P

Johnny Paycheck

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh, PA

Mo/

07 Mar 2006 at 15:09 - 29

I ALWAYS use my PvE monk for PvP.

Gunz Blazing Smile

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

07 Mar 2006 at 15:12 - 30

PvE characters can actually have some advantages in PvP such as certain items and armors. Able to change into differnt armors, runes, ect. PvP players have 1 set armor, at least up to 2 weapons and 2 offhands. On the offhand you have all max mods and max runes. Of course you have to unlock these. Which in thus if you don't do much farming or faction farming for these. It is better to just go with the PvE characters.

wolfe2dale

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hemel Hempstead

Guildless...

E/Me

07 Mar 2006 at 15:12 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanerman_99

I use my PvE ele/mes for when the guild decides to GvG. I have unlock all the skills and capped almost all the Elites so I can usually set her up any way the guild needs. I think its is a sense of accomplishment to win a battle in PvP with my trusty PvE Ele.

Same here, my ele/me is setup to play any element at lvl 16 skill at the drop of a hat. I have also capped every elite for this guy...I've never met the pvp ele I can't wipe the floor with.

Charqus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

07 Mar 2006 at 15:15 - 32

Yes i definately do,
MY main char is my warrior but i tend not to use him in pvp; only pve
But my other 2 pve's are my lvl 20 ranger and monk which i use in pvp aswell as pve
I use my monk as any build but my ranger mainly interupt cos it feels so satisfying when ya interupt an eles meteor shower

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

07 Mar 2006 at 15:31 - 33

My mesmer and monk are both PvE chars. I joined a team once and someone said 'omg we have a preset skills mesmer' just by looking at me

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

07 Mar 2006 at 15:41 - 34

I use them since I have 4 pve characters and there is no way I'm going to delete one of them.

Takeko Nakano

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Great Britain

W/P

07 Mar 2006 at 15:46 - 35

I use two of my three PvE characters for PvP because I invested in them. No reason not to.

That said so long as you have one slot free for PvP you can make whatever character you need, when you need.

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

07 Mar 2006 at 15:49 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valdaran Longfoot

PvE all the way. You only need one slot for a PvP character, other than that I'm all PvE.

And for most people who say PvE have inperfect equipment, thats what greens are for............

The thing is though greens are not perfect. I look at my PvP boon-prot monk and the staff I have setup and there is no way to easily acquire one in PvE. Not Kephket's Refuge. Not the Yakslapper. Not the smiting staff. The only way it could possibly happen is if someone finds a req 9-10 gold hold staff with the 20/20 prot mods. If that happens, what do you think the price of it would be?

Let's look at axes. The standard PvP axe is something like a Vampiric axe of fortitude. Now no greens have this - Victos (sundering/fortitude), Razorstone (furious/axemastery), Tanzit's Cleaver (cruel/fortitude).

So where is your perfect PvE item?

That said the difference is marginal at best, but everynow and then it will pay off, and you play PvP to win. I'll take any minor advantage I can get.

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

07 Mar 2006 at 15:53 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgb

I look at my PvP boon-prot monk and the staff I have setup and there is no way to easily acquire one in PvE. Not Kephket's Refuge. Not the Yakslapper. Not the smiting staff. The only way it could possibly happen is if someone finds a req 9-10 gold hold staff with the 20/20 prot mods. If that happens, what do you think the price of it would be?

What do you have on it then? +5 insightful, 20/20 prot, +20% enchant seems perfect for a boon-prot monk to me...

The Lich Ranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Home

Children Of Orion

Mo/Me

07 Mar 2006 at 16:07 - 38

I use my PvE chars in PvP and it always works out good.. you just have to have some good items that can match the PvP items..and u have to know what your doing

Burakus Lightwing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

07 Mar 2006 at 16:09 - 39

I use both, I like to use my PvE characters, but if I need a build based off of a primary that's not one of my PvE characters, then having that one PvP slot to play around with is nice.

Stalker Haras

I Didn't Do It

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

07 Mar 2006 at 16:15 - 40

I use both Pve Charicters and PvP. As stated a few posts back, its only really necissary to make the PvP charicter if your current PvE slots cannot fulfill what is needed. But imo if one has the perfect weapons, and armor runed up same as a PvP charicter, i dont see why not?

Alot of guild battles these days you start to see more and more PvE chareicters doing battles. For Instance [iGi] uses their mix of PvE and PvP charicters. I dont think it makes a difference if you have what your build needs.