Lack OF Rpers

Leon_Ux-ixen

Leon_Ux-ixen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

America, how I dispise it...

Order Of The Mystic Phoenix

R/Mo

Has anyone noticed that there is a lack of people who rp in this game? I've there are some but I mostly find die hard beat-the-gamers as I call them. Might be just me :P

Burakus Lightwing

Burakus Lightwing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

What's an RPer?

Sephy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burakus Lightwing
What's an RPer?
http://www.thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip011.html

antialias02

antialias02

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Eastern Iowa

Forsaken Wanderers [FW]

Me/E

There are quite a few RPers, though not as many as I'd like. Check out the Lyssa's Fiction forum to hook up with some. Self included. Though I don't get a chance to hang out with other RPers as often as I'd like anymore.

MalVeauX

MalVeauX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

There are few Role-Players that you will find in the general game. This is totally normal though. It's usually difficult to find those kinds of players in the public sections of any online game. These people generally are playing with other role-players who keep it very in-house. They don't participate with the public generally because it's either too annoying to deal with "Johnny Elitist" when they're just having a good time. You won't find them because they're not "running" through the missions and areas to speed to their skills.

They're the odd few that you don't see ever speaking, who simply show up, then disappear without you ever knowing it.

Most online games fall to the "elitist" crowds. I'm not saying that in a negative way, but let me give you an example of what happens in a game that has "material" to be aquired that represents wealth, and why you will be very hard pressed to find a role player amongst them:



Cheers!

wolfe2dale

wolfe2dale

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hemel Hempstead

Guildless...

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephy
LMAO, *wipes eyes*, thanks for that.

Leon_Ux-ixen

Leon_Ux-ixen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

America, how I dispise it...

Order Of The Mystic Phoenix

R/Mo

Really funny you make the rpers of the game seem like an underground orginization. But it does make sence if you think about it.

wolfe2dale

wolfe2dale

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hemel Hempstead

Guildless...

E/Me

[Removed deleted quote]

I don't think he was taking the mick mate, this is just a really funny comic that takes the mickey out of all online games, especially rp'ers.

Lighten up, it's all fun...

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

No, he wasn't saying that at all. It's just a cute comic about roleplayers in online games. (The link is working for me...)

I've never even considered RP'ing in GuildWars because it's just not set up to accomodate it. You'd pretty much have to turn all your channels off except for group chat, and try to ignore all the people running by you, through you, and standing in front of you.

antialias02

antialias02

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Eastern Iowa

Forsaken Wanderers [FW]

Me/E

When I RP, if I'm RPing alone (which I usually am) I try to get other people around me into it. Sometimes people play along.

Other times I get lots of whispers saying anything from "OMG ARE YOU A BOT?" and "SHUT UP" to "are u gaile?" and "lol an rper." It can be kind of a wash. So it'd be a lot more fun to RP with other people who are actually interested in RPing.

Burakus Lightwing

Burakus Lightwing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

Well, if that is the case then I do apologize Sephy (having a rough morning at work and probably shouldn't be on here posting). Anyway, I think I'm suffering from RA syndrome where far too many people throw out "noob". I'll try the link again.


LOL...ok that was a good link. Made me laugh. You're right I rarely ever see any RPers in this game.

Cymboric Treewalker

Cymboric Treewalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Imperial Palace - Cantha

[SFK] Sacred Forge Knights (founder)

Me/Mo

There are roleplayers - in fact my guild will be trying to start up a dedicated sessions of it. I roleplay all I can...

As for the post with the screen shot... it would be possible to do the same thing inside roleplay...

example:

Hear ye, Hear ye... I am an experienced guard looking to escort people to the great city of Lion's Arch. This dangerous journey will include multiple stops on our way through the Shiverpeaks.

[end example]

Contact me ifn' ya want to roleplay.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Its really hard to RP in this game. Too many people curse you out. :|

~ Star Maiden ~

~ Star Maiden ~

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

In Sil's bed or stuck to Kailynn's legs

Silhouette Stars [sil]

E/Me

I'm into role-playing myself, or I should say, I'd like to rp the way you do in a classic PnP roleplaying session. But like Malveaux pointed out, it's often difficult to accomplish that in the game environment unless you're surrounded by other gamers who are totally devoted to the same idea. It is one thing I'd like to see more of in MMOs, especially since they're always called MMORPGs. It's often just about power-gaming and selling items like an in-game EBay, though, which is fine, I'm not going to say anything bad about it since it's basically part of the game now (part of every MMO, really). I'd like to see an MMO that somehow encourages you to develop your unique character the way a tradtional offline RPG does, and by that I mean shape your character's personality, experiences, relationships, etc., through the decisions you make and the adventures you go through. Not just by sounding a chime and saying "you gained a level!" You might gain experience, skill points, spells, items, equipment, whatever, but that kind of progress is largely static from a character standpoint. You get stronger, deadlier, more "cool-looking," but your character is still an undefined creation in the sense that there's no inherent distinction between a lvl 20 W/Mo and another lvl 20 W/Mo.

All of the MMOs out there, Everquest 2, WoW, DnDO, and GW are like that. I'd like to see something that brings in more of that communal, interactive, deeply personal experience that's the hallmark of PnP RP. I used to play a RP campaign with some friends back in high school and those were some of the most fun times, and I really got a great sense of satisfaction seeing the development of my Wizard, seeing how she was actually affected by the things she experienced during the story, seeing how she influenced events around her in the world and with other players. It's a microcosm of real life. I think all of you who've participated in traditional PnP RPing know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. Those are just my observations. And please don't take them to mean I dislike MMOs or GW in particular. GW is awesome and I love it. But like most MMOs, it is what it is. Just because we might wish for something more doesn't mean we aren't happy with what we have.

Hope that all made sense. lol

icemonkey

icemonkey

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

this game is not for ropeplaying. Of course you are welcome to shove the square peg through the round hole if you like. That is the reason you don't find many RP'ers here, its because if they are here they are lost. Go get WoW or any number of other MMORPG's where there is nothing but grind and you have to roleplay to make it seem like a game and not work. This game is about competition, its supposed to be about PvP competition but some people take PvE too far. The 'Stroy' part of this game is a joke, its super easy and extremely dumb, no offense to you if you do enjoy it, but that is waht the majority of the people who play this game for competition think. The PvE was an introduction to the skills so you could have an easier transition into PvP.

honestly go get a RPG that was meant for roleplaying if you want to. Although for factions they seem to be hinting at a more robust PvE experience that may be more conducive to playing PvE regularly.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

This is why I love to play in low-level areas. Where lower level players aren't has hard pressed about farming or competitive trash talking and noobphobias as if I was to hang out in Augury Rock or Drognars Forge... over there, there's only Bots, Runners, Runner-finders, Elitist-pvpers, Farmers, Farmer-wannabes, and Noob-trashers.

Lower level players actually like to enjoy the game..

Leon_Ux-ixen

Leon_Ux-ixen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

America, how I dispise it...

Order Of The Mystic Phoenix

R/Mo

Sorry to say icemonkey but your wrong there. RPG = "Role Playing" Game so to be techincal yes rping is part of the game that makes each and every character unqie in thier own right you drop that then your just a strong pc running around completeing quests and selling your next crop. But I guess I'll stick with my mother's saying. "To each his own."

I sometimes have my character say. "There is no moon light nor the howls of wolves. This place lack life's touch, not even the wind blows in this dead land." Just to see what others say but I always get the same thing. "WTS IVORY BOW/ MAX DMG./ +30 HEALTH~~PM ME" lol

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Even as old as it is, i'd still recommend Neverwinter Nights if you enjoy online roleplaying. Though the pre-packaged campaign is D&D-centric, the online worlds you can participate in are extremely varied.

Guild Wars suits me more at the moment because I don't have long stretches of dedicated time to commit. I like to hop online, do a quest, run through a zone, etc. and then hop off again. =)

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Online RPG's and Role Playing just don't go together in my opinion. They're too restricted for my liking. Say you make a character to specifics, they can't do everything in their description of what their personality is like. You can't just walk up to a wall casually and lean against it, trying to catch your breath after a feirce duel with an enemy that was about to set the town on fire or kill an important person.

I'll stick with the text based free form thankyou.

~ Star Maiden ~

~ Star Maiden ~

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

In Sil's bed or stuck to Kailynn's legs

Silhouette Stars [sil]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mournblade
Even as old as it is, i'd still recommend Neverwinter Nights if you enjoy online roleplaying. Though the pre-packaged campaign is D&D-centric, the online worlds you can participate in are extremely varied.

Guild Wars suits me more at the moment because I don't have long stretches of dedicated time to commit. I like to hop online, do a quest, run through a zone, etc. and then hop off again. =)
The NWN game module creator (or whatever it's called) is great, Mournblade, even though I can never seem to get my dialogue scripts to work with 100% success But I think at this point I'm just resigned to the fact that no computer game will ever be able to fully capture the feeling of PnP. Part of that has to do with being able to actually see the other people right there, next to you, across the table, and see their laughter during in-jokes, funny moments in the game, see everyone so enthusiastic to play their characters, getting all tense and excited during a dramatic moment in an adventure. And I guess another big aspect of that is that you usually roleplay with good friends, not people you barely know or complete strangers, so there's already a comfort level there.

Until we get full, 3D online Virtual Reality games where we can put on a visor, VR gloves, etc, and simulate being there and seeing our friends with us, I guess we'll have to live with what we have.

TwinRaven

TwinRaven

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

I find that to locate another role-player, simply send out an occasional:

"Who is this Charles of the Norse you speak of so fondly? One would assume such a great man would be known by many."

"I've never seen the man, but have heard him metioned from the Crystal Dessert to the Shiverpeaks."

----------OR--------------

"Why do you speak so of another man's mother? You obviously have neither honor nor the manhood required to fill a codpeice."

----------OR---------------

"I seem to have stepped in charr droppings again! Blast! Could some kind soul spare a bit of dye remover? Perhaps it will cover the smell..."


Popping off with comments a character might make signals pretty clearly your desire to role-play. I once gave a high-end shadow bow to another player for politely answering a question for me and said my guild would gladly consider him a friend. By the end of our little chat (because I never broke character) the poor fellow though I was somehow affiliated with the game..."You talk Guild Wars talk dude" I had to reassure him I was merely a lone traveller seeking loot and knowledge and that the wars between guilds was a matter best settled in areanas.

Send out the vibe...it comes back sometimes. When it doesn't, it can still be great fun!

Cymboric Treewalker

Cymboric Treewalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Imperial Palace - Cantha

[SFK] Sacred Forge Knights (founder)

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by icemonkey
this game is not for ropeplaying. Of course you are welcome to shove the square peg through the round hole if you like. That is the reason you don't find many RP'ers here, its because if they are here they are lost. Go get WoW or any number of other MMORPG's where there is nothing but grind and you have to roleplay to make it seem like a game and not work. This game is about competition, its supposed to be about PvP competition but some people take PvE too far. The 'Stroy' part of this game is a joke, its super easy and extremely dumb, no offense to you if you do enjoy it, but that is waht the majority of the people who play this game for competition think. The PvE was an introduction to the skills so you could have an easier transition into PvP.

honestly go get a RPG that was meant for roleplaying if you want to. Although for factions they seem to be hinting at a more robust PvE experience that may be more conducive to playing PvE regularly.
Thanks for sharing your opinion... it has been noted. Roleplay, for your information, does not depend on the gameplay. Neither does roleplay depend on "grind". PvP could have roleplay and I sense factions will make that even more possible... but your opinion is yours and I have no wish of changing your mind.

reverse_oreo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scars Meadows [SmS] Officer (not recruiting)

in game rpers turn into larpers. larpers upset the delicate balance of life. "LIGHTNING BOLT!"

on to a more serious note....what is the point of rping? ive never understood it.

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

Me and my mate did a bit of roleplaying, but it was usually just met with
"lol, wht r u doin/" or similar. It'd be cool to do a bit more.

Harmony

Harmony

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Houston, Texas

Arcane Nexus (ANX)

R/Me

The lack of rp in the game is kinda disheartening (nothing against the game btw, love it), but I truly don't think the environment is set up for it. As others have said, kinda hard to remain 'in character' when you're in a town with 'omg ur a NOOB', 'wts blah blah', 'glf..", you get the point. I love text based ffrp (free form roleplay) and wish there was a way to rp on here; sadly enough, I don't think there is.

Stormfall

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Soviet Canuckistan

Makil Astalder [MAR]

I enjoy roleplaying quite a lot (and in fact bought this game in the hopes of finding an active RP community within it), but I have yet to actually encounter any. I've tried doing some RP-style play even without someone else at first (similar to antialias02), but that never ends well. I could have sworn ArenaNet said that they might add some content to enhance roleplaying (like items or something) way back in the summer, but nothing ever really came of that. Ah, well - I'm still holding out hope for RP districts

Contrary to an earlier (and quite constructive *cough*) assertion in the thread, Guild Wars isn't somehow set up to make roleplaying inappropriate or impossible, since roleplaying is a social activity independent of game mechanics. If someone really WANTED to, they could roleplay in games like Counter Strike. So while the Guild Wars roleplaying community may be small (or at least very, very quiet), RP isn't somehow "improper".

PS: I liked the link Good stuff.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
Online RPG's and Role Playing just don't go together in my opinion. They're too restricted for my liking. Say you make a character to specifics, they can't do everything in their description of what their personality is like. You can't just walk up to a wall casually and lean against it, trying to catch your breath after a feirce duel with an enemy that was about to set the town on fire or kill an important person.

I'll stick with the text based free form thankyou.
Sekkira wins the thread.

GW is not the place to roleplay. Nor is WoW. Nor is any other typical MMO. I rp'ed in various FFRP channels on IRC for seven-eight years--I can't imagine the restrictive GW atmosphere being conducive to legitimate roleplay at all.

If you want to really roleplay, go get on IRC. Go find a MUD. Go play DnD. That's roleplaying.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Wow that's hardcore. I do admire those who enjoy a good text roleplay, but personally I'm a slow reader and a graphic-geek. I can enjoy guild wars (for all their limitations and shortcomings) as it is. :/

~ Star Maiden ~

~ Star Maiden ~

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

In Sil's bed or stuck to Kailynn's legs

Silhouette Stars [sil]

E/Me

Hey, for all those who enjoy RP'ing (or would like to try it out), send me a pm sometime when I'm online and we'll see if we can meet up. If nothing else, it would be nice to meet other people with similar interests and maybe forge a friendship

Leon_Ux-ixen

Leon_Ux-ixen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

America, how I dispise it...

Order Of The Mystic Phoenix

R/Mo

Suppose your right but I will not loose hope in finding role players within the dark and dangerous world we called Guild Wars.

konohamaru heaven

konohamaru heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Some where in Cantha beyond the Petrified Forest and the Jade Sea

The Amazon Basin

The Pink armor person they mention in the SS was me ^^. Pink of course is the new black ^^.

Anyways yea there are alot of Rpers around.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

"....A soft metal plink of her helmet resting on the table thundered in comparison to the stagnant silence. The chair squeak in reluctance as she sat down. A few heads turned but none commited the gaze. The tired warrior sighed and looked at the lost words commited to the scroll laying before her.

'The problem, I dare say, is not that the peoples of this land, but rather the land itself', she begins to ink on the scroll. 'It does not bid well to those of us to commit to our integrity and character. It suffocates the imagination and well being of the peoples. Those who dare stand up are struck down as outcasts and strangers. We are deemed shameful and unrefined, forced to retreat and hide.'

'Indeed it seems all the peoples care more about vending their wares than communing and talking with their brotherend..."

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
"....A soft metal plink of her helmet resting on the table thundered in comparison to the stagnant silence. The chair squeak in reluctance as she sat down. A few heads turned but none commited the gaze. The tired warrior sighed and looked at the lost words commited to the scroll laying before her.

'The problem, I dare say, is not that the peoples of this land, but rather the land itself', she begins to ink on the scroll. 'It does not bid well to those of us to commit to our integrity and character. It suffocates the imagination and well being of the peoples. Those who dare stand up are struck down as outcasts and strangers. We are deemed shameful and unrefined, forced to retreat and hide.'

'Indeed it seems all the peoples care more about vending their wares than communing and talking with their brotherend..."
Uh. Decent, but you need to work on your tenses.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Uh. Decent, but you need to work on your tenses.
ya, i tend to jump tenses a lot, XD sorry I didnt bother proofreading.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
ya, i tend to jump tenses a lot, XD sorry I didnt bother proofreading.
I know, didn't mean to come off as overly critical, but mismatched tenses always jump out at me.

I like the style, though. You'd probably be pretty fun to play with.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Diablo™ nods in agreement.

Leon_Ux-ixen

Leon_Ux-ixen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

America, how I dispise it...

Order Of The Mystic Phoenix

R/Mo

Man I miss rping use to do it all night during summer. It's like writing a story or a legend with others that can turn into a very inspiring story if one takes time to read it again.

~ Star Maiden ~

~ Star Maiden ~

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

In Sil's bed or stuck to Kailynn's legs

Silhouette Stars [sil]

E/Me

Just wanted to mention another thing, since I see a few people doing it. And before I do I want everyone to know it's not meant to be critical of you or put you down or anything like that, it's just a point I'd like to make about RPing...

RPing doesn't necessarily mean you have to talk in this archaic, flowery pseudo-medieval dialogue. In fact, I think the mere act of doing so puts off a lot of people who might otherwise be inclined to give RPing a shot. When I play a PnP character in a fantasy setting, I may use that kind of speech, and I may not. Usually I just keep "in tone" meaning I talk as if I am that character, but my speech might otherwise not be all that different from how people speak "IRL." I don't need to say "thee" and "thou" and "forsooth!" lol Generally my dialogue is more formal than the kind of colloquial stuff you might engage in with friends or people in your neighborhood, but it depends on more than just verbal anachronisms. It's all about staying true to the character and expressing that character's personality in a genuine way, not resorting to sometimes-stilted language.

Just my opinion.

Thunderbolt300

Thunderbolt300

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Baylor University, Waco, TX

Orphans of Kukai [OOK]

E/W

I believe the site - www.gwrpa.org - can show you that roleplaying is very alive on Guild Wars. You may not see us, but rest assured, we're around- it's just that typically we tend to hang out in the international districts where there's significantly less traffic, so in that respect, we're a little hidden. As poorly made as Guild Wars is for roleplay (as compared to something like NeverWinter Nights), Guild Wars does have the capability to support us.

There are plenty of RP guilds out there. Currently, the RP community of guilds is attempting to organize and we're planning RP events out already.

~ Star Maiden ~

~ Star Maiden ~

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

In Sil's bed or stuck to Kailynn's legs

Silhouette Stars [sil]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderbolt300
I believe the site - www.gwrpa.org - can show you that roleplaying is very alive on Guild Wars. You may not see us, but rest assured, we're around- it's just that typically we tend to hang out in the international districts where there's significantly less traffic, so in that respect, we're a little hidden.

There are plenty of RP guilds out there. The GWRPA is where we organize.
Ohh, so that's where you've all been hiding, huh I've been in the international districts a few times just for peace and quiet lol Good idea to gather there since it's so EMPTY

Thanks for the link, I'm going to check that out.