I just went to the Skill Trainer in LA and he had every skill in the game cept Elites. Just like at Ember Light Camp.
But I also had a massive update on 34Mb just before it happend.
Also for some reason its only on my Ascended Characters as other people with low levels dont seem to have the option.
~N19h7m4r3
Every skill in game at LA.
N19h7m4r3
UndeadRoadkill
Yeah, I don't have that with my level 18 character. I haven't checked with my ascended yet.
UndeadRoadkill
The guy in Ascalon seems to have a large selection, too.
Katch
It just shows you which skills you know as well as the ones the trainer can sell you.
snikerz
get in quick while it lasts 
rebirth @ ascalon teehee
rebirth @ ascalon teehee
N19h7m4r3
No it doesnt up until today I never even bothered to get Verata's gaze and sacrifice. They are only at Copperhammer mines and Ember Light Camp yet I just bought them at LA.
Wacky
I don't see *every* skill...
But a little bit of experimentation and thought suggests that:
* It looks like any skill you have unlocked is now available from a trainer real early.
But a little bit of experimentation and thought suggests that:
* It looks like any skill you have unlocked is now available from a trainer real early.
TideSwayer
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* It looks like any skill you have unlocked is now available from a trainer real early.
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N19h7m4r3
Hmm, your claim actually seems right, Just logged on in my warrior and every warrior skill is there and monk al except gaurdian since I never unlocked it.
Skuld
Ooh I hope they don't fix this before 6~ hours so i can get blood of the master 
Wacky
Eh, correction and clarification: Every *non-elite* skill you have unlocked (through PVE OR faction points) is now available from any skill trainer from Ascalon onwards.
I think it's here to stay - once I finished making the above post another build came in, but after I logged out and in, the skills are all still there.
I think it's great - Go ANET!
I think it's here to stay - once I finished making the above post another build came in, but after I logged out and in, the skills are all still there.
I think it's great - Go ANET!
N19h7m4r3
Correcting what? In my original post it says all skills cept elite ones.
TideSwayer
This totally kicks ass. I'm sorry, but it does.
Wacky
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Correcting what? In my original post it says all skills cept elite ones.
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But you know, it'd be easy to get a good build up and running for PVE Factions now - just farm zaishen for 7k exp, unlock all the relevant skills, then buy them on your PVE character.
Zakarr
gg Ascalon Arena and Shiverpeak Arena. Abusers can now get skills so easily.
-Loki-
I hope this stays. I said it before, but it bears repeating: Let people play how they want to play. If they want a sword warrior with galrath strike and final thrust right out of pre searing, and they have it unlocked, let them.
N19h7m4r3
Strange, wasn't A.net against UAS at first?
-Loki-
1. It's a bug.
2. It's not UAS. It's PvE access to all unlocked skills at trainers.
2. It's not UAS. It's PvE access to all unlocked skills at trainers.
warban
Really doubt its a bug. I think this has more to do with making guildwars have less liner character progression for factions And bringing Chapter 1 up to speed as well. Edit it could be that The Skill unlocking was meant for the factions chapter but they gave it to chapter 1 instead.
Studio Ghibli
I think it's a bad idea.
You'll suddenly have a strong line between first-time characters and non-first-time characters.
You'll suddenly have a strong line between first-time characters and non-first-time characters.
TimberOwl
Yeah, i just went to ascalon skill trainer with my lvl2 N/mo, and hey presto, every skill. But im not ascended, and its my first time as necro, so it can't be your own unlocks. Its gotta be that they just enabled all the skills (Bar Elites) like, ember light camp 
I unlocked what i could when there, but ran swiftly out of skill points... grr, only had 5! I hope this stays like this now.
I unlocked what i could when there, but ran swiftly out of skill points... grr, only had 5! I hope this stays like this now.
TideSwayer
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Yeah, i just went to ascalon skill trainer with my lvl2 N/mo, and hey presto, every skill. But im not ascended, and its my first time as necro, so it can't be your own unlocks. Its gotta be that they just enabled all the skills (Bar Elites) like, ember light camp
I unlocked what i could when there, but ran swiftly out of skill points... grr, only had 5! I hope this stays like this now. |
perfect
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Yeah, i just went to ascalon skill trainer with my lvl2 N/mo, and hey presto, every skill. But im not ascended, and its my first time as necro, so it can't be your own unlocks. Its gotta be that they just enabled all the skills (Bar Elites) like, ember light camp
I unlocked what i could when there, but ran swiftly out of skill points... grr, only had 5! I hope this stays like this now. |
Which means this is probably a bug so quickly unlock all you can before they figure out a fix!
Charqus
this is awesome, it aint a bug aswell...
well thats what i heard when i asked around
well thats what i heard when i asked around
TimberOwl
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So it's not 'account-unlocked' skills? It's ALL skills, even the first time through with that profession?
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TideSwayer
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Which means this is probably a bug so quickly unlock all you can before they figure out a fix!
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TimberOwl
Yeah, but there may be another agenda in Anets mind. I mean think about it right, if they are intending on keeping the all skills thing. Then that would surely mean that they want to get all the players up-to speed before factions right? The what happens when everyone has all their skills? Old prophecies campaign might be scrapped and taken offline.
Factions + Prophecies means alot of server space, they might be thinking about erasing the odl for the new to save money. Which obviously is good for us as we will most likely pay less in the long term, but also bad as all the old money making areas will be gone..
Factions + Prophecies means alot of server space, they might be thinking about erasing the odl for the new to save money. Which obviously is good for us as we will most likely pay less in the long term, but also bad as all the old money making areas will be gone..
Studio Ghibli
Obviously.
Or maybe it's a bug and you're all abusing it.
The skill trainer only works if you've already unlocked it on that account. My pre-release account has it all. My newly purchased account has only the ones it's unlocked.
Totally fuggin' unbalancing.
Or maybe it's a bug and you're all abusing it.
The skill trainer only works if you've already unlocked it on that account. My pre-release account has it all. My newly purchased account has only the ones it's unlocked.
Totally fuggin' unbalancing.
Vaga
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Yeah, but there may be another agenda in Anets mind. I mean think about it right, if they are intending on keeping the all skills thing. Then that would surely mean that they want to get all the players up-to speed before factions right? The what happens when everyone has all their skills? Old prophecies campaign might be scrapped and taken offline.
Factions + Prophecies means alot of server space, they might be thinking about erasing the odl for the new to save money. Which obviously is good for us as we will most likely pay less in the long term, but also bad as all the old money making areas will be gone.. |
TideSwayer
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Originally Posted by TimberOwl
Yeah, but there may be another agenda in Anets mind. I mean think about it right, if they are intending on keeping the all skills thing. Then that would surely mean that they want to get all the players up-to speed before factions right? The what happens when everyone has all their skills? Old prophecies campaign might be scrapped and taken offline.
Factions + Prophecies means alot of server space, they might be thinking about erasing the odl for the new to save money. Which obviously is good for us as we will most likely pay less in the long term, but also bad as all the old money making areas will be gone.. |
Charqus
Cant this like mess up the game 4 new ppl tho
like an ele with meteor shower could like slaughter everything when we had to wait til ldroks or ember lit to cap it.... Unfair
like an ele with meteor shower could like slaughter everything when we had to wait til ldroks or ember lit to cap it.... Unfair
TideSwayer
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Obviously.
Or maybe it's a bug and you're all abusing it. The skill trainer only works if you've already unlocked it on that account. My pre-release account has it all. My newly purchased account has only the ones it's unlocked. Totally fuggin' unbalancing. |
It's easing the tedium of having to do all the damn Old Ascalon fetch quests multiple times with the same profession. Let's be honest here - those quests are only done with every PvE repeat profession because they give out lots of skills early. Now I can just avoid that stuff since I've done those profession's fetch quests before. This is just allowing for lots more freedom in early-game builds (for example, now repeat Elementalists can choose to make non-fire builds from the start if they wanted to). Those that avoid making repeat-profession characters for reasons such as fire-ele starter ALWAYS now have extra incentive for trying out something new from the get-go.
.......and if it is indeed a bug, well let's just say my Yak's Bend ele now has LOTS of firepower.
TimberOwl
Well i was only hoping it wouldn't happen.
Seems all good to me, but Anet haven't realeased any info explaining whats going on yet, so most likely could be a bug.
Seems all good to me, but Anet haven't realeased any info explaining whats going on yet, so most likely could be a bug.
Zakarr
I don't think it is a bug because skill trainer gives only those you have already unlocked. Skill trainers have never before worked like this. Bug would make them to give all norma skills no matter are they unlocked or not. They have added new check code to skill trainers.
TimberOwl
When your account unlocks a certain skill through a quest with a warrior for example, is the skill trainer also showing skills that you would have got from that quest, but with a different profession, if so, that may be the reason why i have all the nec skills?
Raziel665
Having all yor unlocked skills availeble from the start will make making a new PvE char and running trough the campaign again a lot less painfull.
TimberOwl
Yeah it sure would, well im happy about the change, means i can keep the minions healthy at lvl2
Minions ftw!!!
Minions ftw!!!
led-zep
so time to buy all skills on mes secondary then make a mesmer people would actually take in a group?
they may as well remove all monsters from droks run now and let everyone do it, this is making the game far too easy for new players
they may as well remove all monsters from droks run now and let everyone do it, this is making the game far too easy for new players
wolfe2dale
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I hope this stays. I said it before, but it bears repeating: Let people play how they want to play. If they want a sword warrior with galrath strike and final thrust right out of pre searing, and they have it unlocked, let them.
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That's silly, how easy do you want this game to be?
Big_Iron
It makes sense. Since LA is the launch point to Cantha, it seems only natural that your ascended character would have access to all non-elite skills there. It think it's a great idea.