Crazy circle of noob ownige-ness

I was in HOH other day with a noob team this dawned on me. I have only jsut started playing PVP although i am not noob as i have unlocked all mesmer, necromancer, monk and ranger skills. As a observed my gaming environment,

It dawned on me that i wasn't gettgin fame very fast.
Then it dawned on me that thats because of the noobs around me.
Then it dawned on me that you need a good team to get fame.
Then i realised all the good players are in ranked teams which means that unranked teams have no real chance to win.

So as a Rank 1 player ( lol ) i think its very funny that i cannot get fame at any rate and have to slave to get it. Once i got into a ranked team as taint necro and won 4 consecutive but this is obviously not gonna happen with unranked.

So i realise that HOH starts at rank 3

Any comments / ideas?

It's a catch 22.

Play PvE.

Welcome to the broken rank system that tells you absolutely nothing about how good a player is. The only thing rank will tell you is you know the maps.

Or paid for rank and still don't know jack shit.

this is why people did iway...

your best bet is to get into a guild with RL friends who you know play half decently.

random guilds that advertise dont really help you much when it comes to PvP, and good guilds that PvP generally dont advertise, so again, quite a conundrum (sp?)

I think we need a sticky "complain about the rank system" thread. Not that I don't think it's a problem; I agree with the OP. But seriously, someone posts one of these threads at least once a day.

get a guild. It's the best way to go if you wanna go anywhere in pvp. Either that or play with friends. Playing in pugs won't get you too far compared to playing with people you know.

Maybe there will be other ways of getting fame in chapter 2.

What's the name of the game again? G.. g.. guild wars? Ohh! Maybe I should join a guild then!

Join a guild, start pvping. Just join a guild! There's one forming over at the guild hall [guild-hall.net I believe~] where a few people are starting a guild [and they have minimal pvp experience, for other people who want to start in HA, too.]-- go apply to them or something.

The rank system isn't broken. YOU ARE.

No seriously.

The problem is that you also need rank to join most decent guild...

Almost every guild I have joined that doesn't have rank req are:

1. Never PvP
2. Want to PvP but no members and the Guild Leader are lazy to recruit
3. Wrong Timezone
4. Do some PvP but with no coordination at all

Yes there are exceptions but by the time I find one of those I will be 3 years older......

Heres a suggestion: start your own group.

Kind of hard to do when people even ask the group starter's rank now, so its either unranked group(which means almost no chance, as the first poster said), or hope that none of those 7 people will ask you for your rank. I tried that when I was rank 2, took 1 hr to finally get the people, and the last guy asked me my rank, then when I am basically forced to say I am rank 2, everyone leaves...yay?

well you cant complain about being in an unranked group when you arent ranked. And as for the low rank= leavers advertise that it is an unranked group so no one is suprised.

You have 4 Choices a rank 1


Join a pro guild (Impossible)

Join a pro team (Highly unlikely)

Join a nub team (Random invites ftl)

Or run around naked in Pre (Ding ding)

the 4th option sounds the more fun to me

And that's the point of this post....the segregation problem

What is happening is that there are so many low ranked peeps getting one fame at a time, all they are doing is fame farming each other over and over, without learning ANYTHING. And all that is going to do is to drag the fame requirement up, since they don't learn anything by doing unranked vs unranked over and over. Hence how Rank 3+ is noob rank now...(IWAY kinda sped things up, but even without that it would eventually become like this)

You could;

- Try to revive the threads intended to help people form HoH groups
- Create your own team and ensure it fits your standards
- Keep pulling together PuG's and hope you get into a good team

There're IRC channels for this kind of thing too.

We also have a guild database and a 'looking for guild' thread in the guild auditorium. I got PM's before 24 hours from that thread (this was before becoming a moderator for the forums).

Among other things. There're other ways to form teams than to jump immediately into the game and go, "X/Y lfg" or "Rank Z X/Y lfg".

Even if these teams fail the first few tries, if you have fun together, you tend to friend each other, and your friends list of people who do HoH grows, so that eventually, you can fill up teams much faster later, calling them up to help.

like others have already stated, geting a guild and/or getting a lot of friends whom you have met and played with before is really the only way to get in good groups without rank.